Re: Sorting paragraphs
You don't need to make screen captures. The free SysExporter utility: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/sysexp.html will save the (text) contents of any window, dialog or object on the Windows screen to a file, either as text, HTML or a range of other formats. Simon North Quintiq. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Carol J. Elkins celk...@awrittenword.comwrote: Maxwell, I had NO idea that this was possible. I've never used the View-Pods commands because I thought it just referred to text insets, which I rarely use. The Insets pod will indeed be very valuable and will relieve me of generating temporary lists to see what graphics are in a file. Thanks so much. I love this list. Carol At 11:00 AM 1/8/2013, framers-request@lists.**frameusers.comframers-requ...@lists.frameusers.comwrote: If you are using FrameMaker 9, 10 or 11, you can use View-Pods-Insets and set your display for graphic insets (for doc or all docs). If you click on the *name* field, it will create a display, sorted alphabetically. Although you cannot print this display, you can make screen captures. After using this feature for awhile, you may find yourself moving away from generated lists. I haven't used LOR (List of References) in about 2.5 years now. Carol J. Elkins---A Written Word LLC Making Information Understandable Phone: 719-948-3773 mailto:celkins@awrittenword.**com celk...@awrittenword.com http://www.awrittenword.com * __**_ You are currently subscribed to framers as simon...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe@lists.**frameusers.comframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/**mailman/options/framers/** simonxml%40gmail.comhttp://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/simonxml%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Sorting paragraphs
Shmuel, If you are using FrameMaker 9, 10 or 11, you can use View-Pods-Insets and set your display for graphic insets (for doc or all docs). If you click on the *name* field, it will create a display, sorted alphabetically. Although you cannot print this display, you can make screen captures. After using this feature for awhile, you may find yourself moving away from generated lists. I haven't used LOR (List of References) in about 2.5 years now. ___ Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:31 AM To: David Artman Cc: Framers Subject: Re: Sorting paragraphs Any sort of list that's not in a table. My particular case was a list of referenced graphics that I generated that I wanted sorted alphabetically. - On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:20 PM, David Artman da...@davidartman.com wrote: What's your use case? I'm having trouble imagining why one would ever do this... I suppose that, if I needed to sort paragraphs, I'd use an Index of References. David Original Message From: Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com Date: Thu, January 03, 2013 9:53 am Is there a way to sort paragraphs in Frame without changing the text to a table? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as mhoff...@adobe.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mhoffman%40adobe.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Sorting paragraphs
Interesting, I never knew about that feature either. In FM10 it shows only those insets in open documents even if I choose a book from the Select menu, is that the intended behavior? Adobe should hire a competent UI designer to take all this additional functionality that has been hidden into obscure corners of the product over the years and make it usable. And they they should hire some competent tech writers / editors to given the docs a similar makeover and fill in the gaping holes. On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com wrote: Shmuel, If you are using FrameMaker 9, 10 or 11, you can use View-Pods-Insets and set your display for graphic insets (for doc or all docs). If you click on the *name* field, it will create a display, sorted alphabetically. Although you cannot print this display, you can make screen captures. After using this feature for awhile, you may find yourself moving away from generated lists. I haven't used LOR (List of References) in about 2.5 years now. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Sorting paragraphs
Hi, You can also use itl's FrameScript script: http://www.i-frame.itl.info/en/feature-description/i-frame-modules/base-pack/sort-paragraph-sections.html It's part of the base pack, but as far as I know you can also buy single scripts. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:54 PM To: Framers Subject: Sorting paragraphs Is there a way to sort paragraphs in Frame without changing the text to a table? -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson 052-763-7133 This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Sorting paragraphs
There's every reason to have this capability... Create a bullet list and then sort it... Add new entries and sort it again. The work flow would be, select a range of pgfs, and execute teh sort. Many times I have had to convert to table, sort, then un-table the table. Even if it doesn't trash the xrefs, this work flow is a drag. This request looks like a good candidate for a nifty ExtendScript. Should not be too hard to accomplish. cud ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Sorting paragraphs
This sort of sorting action is especially necessary when dealing with translated documents that contained alphabetically sorted paragraphs in the source language. Craig Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 10:24:40 -0800 From: despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com There's every reason to have this capability... Create a bullet list and then sort it... Add new entries and sort it again. The work flow would be, select a range of pgfs, and execute teh sort. Many times I have had to convert to table, sort, then un-table the table. Even if it doesn't trash the xrefs, this work flow is a drag. This request looks like a good candidate for a nifty ExtendScript. Should not be too hard to accomplish. cud ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Sorting paragraphs
Any sort of list that's not in a table. My particular case was a list of referenced graphics that I generated that I wanted sorted alphabetically. - On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:20 PM, David Artman da...@davidartman.com wrote: What's your use case? I'm having trouble imagining why one would ever do this... I suppose that, if I needed to sort paragraphs, I'd use an Index of References. David Original Message From: Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com Date: Thu, January 03, 2013 9:53 am Is there a way to sort paragraphs in Frame without changing the text to a table? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Sorting paragraphs
For that use case, you can do the alphabetic sort when you generate the list. Try generating an *index* of references rather than a list. In Frame terminology, an index is alphabetically sorted, whereas generated lists are generally in order of occurrence (alphabetical lists of paragraphs being the main exception). -Fred Ridder Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 21:31:16 +0200 Subject: Re: Sorting paragraphs From: shmue...@gmail.com To: da...@davidartman.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com Any sort of list that's not in a table. My particular case was a list of referenced graphics that I generated that I wanted sorted alphabetically. - On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:20 PM, David Artman da...@davidartman.com wrote: What's your use case? I'm having trouble imagining why one would ever do this... I suppose that, if I needed to sort paragraphs, I'd use an Index of References. David Original Message From: Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com Date: Thu, January 03, 2013 9:53 am Is there a way to sort paragraphs in Frame without changing the text to a table? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Sorting paragraphs
On 03/01/2013 2:31 PM, Shmuel wrote: Any sort of list that's not in a table. My particular case was a list of referenced graphics that I generated that I wanted sorted alphabetically. - You can generate an Index of References for graphics, and that will be sorted alphabetically. If you apply a unique pgf tag to any set of pgfs, you can create a List of Paragraphs (Alphabetical) by including only that tag. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Sorting paragraphs
At 16:53 +0200 3/1/13, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: Is there a way to sort paragraphs in Frame without changing the text to a table? Stuart and Fred are right (of course), but what I often do in this case is convert to a table, sort and then convert back. Of course, Frame ensures that your xref markers get snarfed (unless this bug has been fixed), so there is a downside. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Sorting paragraphs
Shmuel, You can generate a list of paragraphs that is sorted, but AFAIK, there is no way to sort them in a regular FM document. Grant On January 3, 2013 at 7:53 AM Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to sort paragraphs in Frame without changing the text to a table? -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson 052-763-7133 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as gr...@hedgewizard.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/grant%40hedgewizard.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Sorting paragraphs
What's your use case? I'm having trouble imagining why one would ever do this... I suppose that, if I needed to sort paragraphs, I'd use an Index of References. David Original Message From: Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com Date: Thu, January 03, 2013 9:53 am Is there a way to sort paragraphs in Frame without changing the text to a table? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Sorting paragraphs
Ah, OK... that's an Index of References application, for sure. Indexes are alphabetically sorted, lists are in order of occurrence. 1) Add Index of References 2) Include References: Imported Graphics 3) Click Add. You get an alphabetical file of all your graphics (I believe it alphabetizes by full path; i.e., what would appear on the c line for that element, in MIF). I actually use an IOR on imported graphics so that I can find all of the images in a document in a file system and pack them up for archiving. Routine HTH; David Original Message Subject: Re: Sorting paragraphs From: Shmuel shmue...@gmail.com Date: Thu, January 03, 2013 2:31 pm To: David Artman da...@davidartman.com Cc: Framers framers@lists.frameusers.com Any sort of list that's not in a table. My particular case was a list of referenced graphics that I generated that I wanted sorted alphabetically. - On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:20 PM, David Artman da...@davidartman.com wrote: What's your use case? I'm having trouble imagining why one would ever do this... I suppose that, if I needed to sort paragraphs, I'd use an Index of References. David Original Message From: Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com Date: Thu, January 03, 2013 9:53 am Is there a way to sort paragraphs in Frame without changing the text to a table? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
