RE: Recovery
Stuart Rogers wrote: Well, those of us who are also forced (kicking screaming) to work in MS Word from time to time all probably have the Alt-S-every-two-minutes obsessive-compulsive habit... Yes, indeed! :) Come to think of it, I guess I have to thank Word's behaviour for causing me to almost never lose more than a couple of minutes of work in any program I use... I do the same (also because of Word) ... periodic saves every so often, particularly after I have added something that I do not want to lose! :) Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Stuart Rogers wrote: > Well, those of us who are also forced (kicking & screaming) to work in MS Word from time to time all probably have the Alt-S-every-two-minutes > obsessive-compulsive habit... Yes, indeed! :) > Come to think of it, I guess I have to thank Word's behaviour for causing me to almost never lose more than a couple of minutes of work in any program I use... I do the same (also because of Word) ... periodic saves every so often, particularly after I have added something that I do not want to lose! :) Z
Recovery
Hello Framers I am building a Book and got the Book Error Report saying Couldn't open file because a more recent autosaved or recovered version exists. There is a recovered version in the folder. What is the safe thing to do?? Les Winberg ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Recovery
Here's what I would do: 1) Back up a copy of both the original and the recovered versions to someplace safe. 2) Open the recovered version in FrameMaker. 3) Open the original version in FrameMaker (might have to force it). 4) Compare the differences between the two versions using FrameMaker's compare feature. (File- Utilities- Compare Documents) Select the Summary and Composite Documents option when doing so. 5) See which version has the most up-to-date information. Save that version over the original version. Note: I just sort of developed this method by intuition. I'd be glad to hear if anyone does something different/there are problems with my method/easier ways to determine whether or not to go with a recovery version of a .fm file. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harold Winberg Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 2:59 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Recovery Hello Framers I am building a Book and got the Book Error Report saying Couldn't open file because a more recent autosaved or recovered version exists. There is a recovered version in the folder. What is the safe thing to do?? Les Winberg ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Recovery
I'd check the file modification times and file sizes for large differences, but in general, open the recovered version. If there's missing info, open the original's backup copy, assuming you have auto backups turned on. And then open the original. (The opening order is important, so you don't overwrite the backup.) If necessary, use the compare utility, but in most cases you'll either remember what you were working on or notice chunks of missing info. Art On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Harold Winberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Framers I am building a Book and got the Book Error Report saying Couldn't open file because a more recent autosaved or recovered version exists. There is a recovered version in the folder. What is the safe thing to do?? Les Winberg -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Recovery
I usually do the same thing, except I change the recover in the filename to something like a date. That way Frame doesn't complain that it sees a recovery file and opens the two files without any hassle. Berny Gagne Lead Writer Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd. Bolton, Ontario, Canada -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael O'Neill Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:12 PM To: Harold Winberg; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Recovery Here's what I would do: 1) Back up a copy of both the original and the recovered versions to someplace safe. 2) Open the recovered version in FrameMaker. 3) Open the original version in FrameMaker (might have to force it). 4) Compare the differences between the two versions using FrameMaker's compare feature. (File- Utilities- Compare Documents) Select the Summary and Composite Documents option when doing so. 5) See which version has the most up-to-date information. Save that version over the original version. Note: I just sort of developed this method by intuition. I'd be glad to hear if anyone does something different/there are problems with my method/easier ways to determine whether or not to go with a recovery version of a .fm file. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harold Winberg Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 2:59 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Recovery Hello Framers I am building a Book and got the Book Error Report saying Couldn't open file because a more recent autosaved or recovered version exists. There is a recovered version in the folder. What is the safe thing to do?? Les Winberg ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bgagne%40husky.ca Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Recovery
Responding to Les Winberg, Art Campbell wrote: I'd check the file modification times and file sizes for large differences, but in general, open the recovered version. If there's missing info, open the original's backup copy, assuming you have auto backups turned on. And then open the original. (The opening order is important, so you don't overwrite the backup.) If necessary, use the compare utility, but in most cases you'll either remember what you were working on or notice chunks of missing info. I feel compelled to once again point out that the .backup files produced by FrameMaker are not real backups. A file with the .backup secondary extension is nothing more nor less than the last-saved version of the document with a secondary filename extension. If you only go 10 minutes between saves (and who of us ever saves *that* frequently), the backup might be quite fresh. But the reality is that it is always one save (i.e., one set of edits) behind the primary file. A recover file, on the other hand, generally represents fresher content than the primary file, but might be corrupted in some way because it represents the state of the file close to the time that FrameMaker unexpectedly exited (i.e., crashed). _ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Recovery
Fred Ridder wrote: If you only go 10 minutes between saves (and who of us ever saves *that* frequently), Well, those of us who are also forced (kicking screaming) to work in MS Word from time to time all probably have the Alt-S-every-two-minutes obsessive-compulsive habit... Come to think of it, I guess I have to thank Word's behaviour for causing me to almost never lose more than a couple of minutes of work in any program I use... Have a good weekend, all :-) -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com I'll stop saying Microsoft is arrogant when Windows stops saying Welcome and instead asks May I? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Recovery
Hello Framers I am building a Book and got the Book Error Report saying Couldn't open file because a more recent autosaved or recovered version exists. There is a recovered version in the folder. What is the safe thing to do?? Les Winberg
Recovery
Here's what I would do: 1) Back up a copy of both the original and the recovered versions to someplace safe. 2) Open the recovered version in FrameMaker. 3) Open the original version in FrameMaker (might have to force it). 4) Compare the differences between the two versions using FrameMaker's compare feature. (File-> Utilities-> Compare Documents) Select the "Summary and Composite Documents" option when doing so. 5) See which version has the most up-to-date information. Save that version over the original version. Note: I just sort of developed this method by intuition. I'd be glad to hear if anyone does something different/there are problems with my method/easier ways to determine whether or not to go with a recovery version of a .fm file. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harold Winberg Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 2:59 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Recovery Hello Framers I am building a Book and got the Book Error Report saying Couldn't open file because a more recent autosaved or recovered version exists. There is a recovered version in the folder. What is the safe thing to do?? Les Winberg ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Recovery
I'd check the file modification times and file sizes for large differences, but in general, open the recovered version. If there's missing info, open the original's backup copy, assuming you have auto backups turned on. And then open the original. (The opening order is important, so you don't overwrite the backup.) If necessary, use the compare utility, but in most cases you'll either remember what you were working on or notice chunks of missing info. Art On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Harold Winberg wrote: > Hello Framers > > I am building a Book and got the Book Error Report saying Couldn't open > file because a more recent autosaved or recovered version exists. > > There is a recovered version in the folder. > What is the safe thing to do?? > Les Winberg -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Recovery
I usually do the same thing, except I change the "recover" in the filename to something like a date. That way Frame doesn't complain that it sees a recovery file and opens the two files without any hassle. Berny Gagne Lead Writer Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd. Bolton, Ontario, Canada -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Michael O'Neill Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:12 PM To: Harold Winberg; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Recovery Here's what I would do: 1) Back up a copy of both the original and the recovered versions to someplace safe. 2) Open the recovered version in FrameMaker. 3) Open the original version in FrameMaker (might have to force it). 4) Compare the differences between the two versions using FrameMaker's compare feature. (File-> Utilities-> Compare Documents) Select the "Summary and Composite Documents" option when doing so. 5) See which version has the most up-to-date information. Save that version over the original version. Note: I just sort of developed this method by intuition. I'd be glad to hear if anyone does something different/there are problems with my method/easier ways to determine whether or not to go with a recovery version of a .fm file. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harold Winberg Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 2:59 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Recovery Hello Framers I am building a Book and got the Book Error Report saying Couldn't open file because a more recent autosaved or recovered version exists. There is a recovered version in the folder. What is the safe thing to do?? Les Winberg ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as bgagne at husky.ca. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bgagne%40husky.ca Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Recovery
Responding to Les Winberg, Art Campbell wrote: > I'd check the file modification times and file sizes for large > differences, but in general, open the recovered version. > > If there's missing info, open the original's backup copy, assuming you > have auto backups turned on. And then open the original. (The opening > order is important, so you don't overwrite the backup.) > > If necessary, use the compare utility, but in most cases you'll either > remember what you were working on or notice chunks of missing info. I feel compelled to once again point out that the .backup files produced by FrameMaker are not real backups. A file with the .backup secondary extension is nothing more nor less than the last-saved version of the document with a secondary filename extension. If you only go 10 minutes between saves (and who of us ever saves *that* frequently), the "backup" might be quite fresh. But the reality is that it is always one save (i.e., one set of edits) behind the primary file. A recover file, on the other hand, generally represents fresher content than the primary file, but might be corrupted in some way because it represents the state of the file close to the time that FrameMaker "unexpectedly exited" (i.e., crashed). _ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/
Recovery
Fred Ridder wrote: > If you only go 10 minutes > between saves (and who of us ever saves *that* frequently), Well, those of us who are also forced (kicking & screaming) to work in MS Word from time to time all probably have the Alt-S-every-two-minutes obsessive-compulsive habit... Come to think of it, I guess I have to thank Word's behaviour for causing me to almost never lose more than a couple of minutes of work in any program I use... Have a good weekend, all :-) -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com I'll stop saying Microsoft is arrogant when Windows stops saying "Welcome" and instead asks "May I?"
