Re: Word and Frame comparisons

[Lin Sims]

I recall hearing (about 10 years or so ago, things may have changed), that
a lot of Microsoft's documentation was written in FrameMaker, not Word,
because Word couldn't handle what they needed to do. That always amused me.

I wonder if it's still the case ...


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Steve Rickaby 
srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote:

 At 13:41 -0700 25/9/13, Alison Craig wrote:

 Word isŠ (long pause), Word isŠ (another long pause). Word is for memos.

 Ok, I cannot resist rising to this...

 Quite a few years ago, I had to prepare some assembly instructions for a
 mineral ore separator. The client mandated Word, probably because it was
 the only document preparation program they had ever heard of.

 The version of Word I was using had the interesting property of consigning
 diagrams that overflowed the page into some Byte World in the Sky: that is,
 as added text caused them to flow off the end of the current page, they
 failed to appear on the following page.

 I had (gasp) paid support for this version of Word, so I rang Microsoft
 and explained the issue. After a long pause, the M$ support person said -
 and I am not making this up - It sounds as if you are trying to do
 something that is too complex for Word [yeah, like words and pictures?] -
 have you thought of using FrameMaker?

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Re: Word and Frame comparisons

[quills]

Sadly, no. They don't document their applications anymore.

Scott T.

Lin Sims wrote:

I recall hearing (about 10 years or so ago, things may have changed),
that a lot of Microsoft's documentation was written in FrameMaker, not
Word, because Word couldn't handle what they needed to do. That always
amused me.

I wonder if it's still the case ...


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Steve Rickaby
srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk
mailto:srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote:

At 13:41 -0700 25/9/13, Alison Craig wrote:

 Word isŠ (long pause), Word isŠ (another long pause). Word is for
memos.

Ok, I cannot resist rising to this...

Quite a few years ago, I had to prepare some assembly instructions
for a mineral ore separator. The client mandated Word, probably
because it was the only document preparation program they had ever
heard of.

The version of Word I was using had the interesting property of
consigning diagrams that overflowed the page into some Byte World in
the Sky: that is, as added text caused them to flow off the end of
the current page, they failed to appear on the following page.

I had (gasp) paid support for this version of Word, so I rang
Microsoft and explained the issue. After a long pause, the M$
support person said - and I am not making this up - It sounds as if
you are trying to do something that is too complex for Word [yeah,
like words and pictures?] - have you thought of using FrameMaker?

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Word and Frame comparisons

[Lin Sims]

I recall hearing (about 10 years or so ago, things may have changed), that
a lot of Microsoft's documentation was written in FrameMaker, not Word,
because Word couldn't handle what they needed to do. That always amused me.

I wonder if it's still the case ...


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Steve Rickaby <
srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> At 13:41 -0700 25/9/13, Alison Craig wrote:
>
> >"Word is? (long pause), Word is? (another long pause). Word is for memos."
>
> Ok, I cannot resist rising to this...
>
> Quite a few years ago, I had to prepare some assembly instructions for a
> mineral ore separator. The client mandated Word, probably because it was
> the only document preparation program they had ever heard of.
>
> The version of Word I was using had the interesting property of consigning
> diagrams that overflowed the page into some Byte World in the Sky: that is,
> as added text caused them to flow off the end of the current page, they
> failed to appear on the following page.
>
> I had (gasp) paid support for this version of Word, so I rang Microsoft
> and explained the issue. After a long pause, the M$ support person said -
> and I am not making this up - "It sounds as if you are trying to do
> something that is too complex for Word [yeah, like words and pictures?] -
> have you thought of using FrameMaker?"
>
> --
> Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less power, use less planet]
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Word and Frame comparisons

[qui...@airmail.net]

Sadly, no. They don't document their applications anymore.

Scott T.

Lin Sims wrote:
> I recall hearing (about 10 years or so ago, things may have changed),
> that a lot of Microsoft's documentation was written in FrameMaker, not
> Word, because Word couldn't handle what they needed to do. That always
> amused me.
>
> I wonder if it's still the case ...
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Steve Rickaby
>  > wrote:
>
> At 13:41 -0700 25/9/13, Alison Craig wrote:
>
>  >"Word is? (long pause), Word is? (another long pause). Word is for
> memos."
>
> Ok, I cannot resist rising to this...
>
> Quite a few years ago, I had to prepare some assembly instructions
> for a mineral ore separator. The client mandated Word, probably
> because it was the only document preparation program they had ever
> heard of.
>
> The version of Word I was using had the interesting property of
> consigning diagrams that overflowed the page into some Byte World in
> the Sky: that is, as added text caused them to flow off the end of
> the current page, they failed to appear on the following page.
>
> I had (gasp) paid support for this version of Word, so I rang
> Microsoft and explained the issue. After a long pause, the M$
> support person said - and I am not making this up - "It sounds as if
> you are trying to do something that is too complex for Word [yeah,
> like words and pictures?] - have you thought of using FrameMaker?"
>
> --
> Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less power, use less planet]
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RE: Word and Frame comparisons

[Steve Rickaby]

At 13:41 -0700 25/9/13, Alison Craig wrote:

Word isŠ (long pause), Word isŠ (another long pause). Word is for memos.

Ok, I cannot resist rising to this...

Quite a few years ago, I had to prepare some assembly instructions for a 
mineral ore separator. The client mandated Word, probably because it was the 
only document preparation program they had ever heard of.

The version of Word I was using had the interesting property of consigning 
diagrams that overflowed the page into some Byte World in the Sky: that is, as 
added text caused them to flow off the end of the current page, they failed to 
appear on the following page.

I had (gasp) paid support for this version of Word, so I rang Microsoft and 
explained the issue. After a long pause, the M$ support person said - and I am 
not making this up - It sounds as if you are trying to do something that is 
too complex for Word [yeah, like words and pictures?] - have you thought of 
using FrameMaker?

-- 
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Word and Frame comparisons

[Steve Rickaby]

At 13:41 -0700 25/9/13, Alison Craig wrote:

>"Word is? (long pause), Word is? (another long pause). Word is for memos."

Ok, I cannot resist rising to this...

Quite a few years ago, I had to prepare some assembly instructions for a 
mineral ore separator. The client mandated Word, probably because it was the 
only document preparation program they had ever heard of.

The version of Word I was using had the interesting property of consigning 
diagrams that overflowed the page into some Byte World in the Sky: that is, as 
added text caused them to flow off the end of the current page, they failed to 
appear on the following page.

I had (gasp) paid support for this version of Word, so I rang Microsoft and 
explained the issue. After a long pause, the M$ support person said - and I am 
not making this up - "It sounds as if you are trying to do something that is 
too complex for Word [yeah, like words and pictures?] - have you thought of 
using FrameMaker?"

-- 
Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less power, use less planet]

RE: Word and Frame comparisons

[Alastair Dent]

This is 'sort of' possible in Word.

Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading styles 
based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.  Then you only alter the design 
as required for each style. If all your headings use the same font family, then 
it is possible to change the font family by altering the 'Heading Base' style. 
However, if one of your headings uses a different font family from 'Heading 
Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't cascade to that heading.

The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons

I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates that 
I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple paragraph 
styles in one step:

(1) Create Heading1 Heading 2 Heading3 next to each other
(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
Designers
(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the paragraph 
style and that some of the values are set to As Is (probably font size)
(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
(5) FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to 
paragraphs in selected area
(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 paragraphs 
in one step.

You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI



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-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
To: Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons

Here's a nice solution for that:
http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/



On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
 Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
 I have a lot of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
 MS Word.

 In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.

 Can this be done in Word?

 Thanks,
 Theresa
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Re: Word and Frame comparisons

[Ken Poshedly]

It's been my own experience that requests (actually directives) for using 
only Word came from the Marketing Dept and/or others who didn't believe that 
Tech Pubs could do the job and demanded the ability to go in and correct 
things as they saw fit. And because everybody knows Word, well, that was 
that. (I remember looking at some of their corrections and I'm glad not to be 
there and take the hate calls from totally confused customers.)






 From: Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com
To: Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com; Shmuel Wolfson 
shmue...@gmail.com; Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com 
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 AM
Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons
 

This is 'sort of' possible in Word.

Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading styles 
based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.  Then you only alter the design 
as required for each style. If all your headings use the same font family, 
then it is possible to change the font family by altering the 'Heading Base' 
style. However, if one of your headings uses a different font family from 
'Heading Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't cascade to that 
heading.

The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons

I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates 
that I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple 
paragraph styles in one step:

(1) Create Heading1 Heading 2 Heading3 next to each other
(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
Designers
(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the paragraph 
style and that some of the values are set to As Is (probably font size)
(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
(5) FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to 
paragraphs in selected area
(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 
paragraphs in one step.

You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI



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-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
To: Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons

Here's a nice solution for that:
http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/



On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
 Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
 I have a lot of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
 MS Word.

 In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.

 Can this be done in Word?

 Thanks,
 Theresa
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Re: Word and Frame comparisons

[Corinne Kenney]

You are probably right. And when people say everybody knows Word, I tend to 
give this reply:
 
The good thing about Word is that you can just open it up and start typing.
The bad thing about Word is that -- you can just open it up and start typing.
 
Corinne Kenney
Sr. Technical Editor/Writer
Raytheon Company



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To: Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com; Maxwell Hoffmann 
mhoff...@adobe.com; Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com; Theresa de Valence 
t...@bstw.com 
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons



It's been my own experience that requests (actually directives) for using 
only Word came from the Marketing Dept and/or others who didn't believe that 
Tech Pubs could do the job and demanded the ability to go in and correct 
things as they saw fit. And because everybody knows Word, well, that was 
that. (I remember looking at some of their corrections and I'm glad not to be 
there and take the hate calls from totally confused customers.)






From: Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com
To: Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com; Shmuel Wolfson 
shmue...@gmail.com; Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com 
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 AM
Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons


This is 'sort of' possible in Word.

Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading styles 
based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.  Then you only alter the design 
as required for each style. If all your headings use the same font family, 
then it is possible to change the font family by altering the 'Heading Base' 
style. However, if one of your headings uses a different font family from 
'Heading Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't cascade to that 
heading.

The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons

I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates 
that I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple 
paragraph styles in one step:

(1) Create Heading1 Heading 2 Heading3 next to each other
(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
Designers
(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the paragraph 
style and that some of the values are set to As Is (probably font size)
(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
(5) FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to 
paragraphs in selected area
(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 
paragraphs in one step.

You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI



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-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
To: Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons

Here's a nice solution for that:
http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/



On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
 Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
 I have a lot of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
 MS Word.

 In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.

 Can this be done in Word?

 Thanks,
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Re: Word and Frame comparisons

[Writer]

Lock up templates. Restrict access to source files.

However, having said that, I'm reminded of this quote:

“You can’t make anything idiot proof because idiots are so ingenious.”

Nadine


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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:25:58 PM
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
 


You are probably right. And when people say everybody knows Word, I tend to 
give this reply:
 
The good thing about Word is that you can just open it up and start typing.
The bad thing about Word is that -- you can just open it up and start typing.
 
Corinne Kenney
Sr. Technical Editor/Writer
Raytheon Company


From: Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net
To: Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com; Maxwell Hoffmann 
mhoff...@adobe.com; Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com; Theresa de Valence 
t...@bstw.com 
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons



It's been my own experience that requests (actually directives) for using 
only Word came from the Marketing Dept and/or others who didn't believe that 
Tech Pubs could do the job and demanded the ability to go in and correct 
things as they saw fit. And because everybody knows Word, well, that was 
that. (I remember looking at some of their corrections and I'm glad not to 
be there and take the hate calls from totally confused customers.)





From: Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com
To: Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com; Shmuel Wolfson 
shmue...@gmail.com; Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com 
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 AM
Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons


This is 'sort of' possible in Word.

Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading styles 
based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.  Then you only alter the design 
as required for each style. If all your headings use the same font family, 
then it is possible to change the font family by altering the 'Heading Base' 
style. However, if one of your headings uses a different font family from 
'Heading Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't cascade to that 
heading.

The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons

I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates 
that I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple 
paragraph styles in one step:

(1) Create Heading1 Heading 2 Heading3 next to each other
(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
Designers
(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the 
paragraph style and that some of the values are set to As Is (probably font 
size)
(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
(5)
FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to paragraphs 
in selected area
(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 
paragraphs in one step.

You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI



Maxwell Hoffmann |  Product  Evangelist  |  Adobe  |  p. 503.336.5952  |  c. 
503.805.3719  |  mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann-  
http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann%C2%A0blogs.adobe.com/techcomm
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-Original
Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
To: Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons

Here's a nice solution for that:
http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/



On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
 Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
 I have a lot
of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
 MS Word.

 In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.

 Can this be done in Word?

 Thanks,
 Theresa
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RE: Word and Frame comparisons

[Alison Craig]

I took a Single Sourcing class a few years ago (before I moved from Word to 
Frame). When I told the instructor I was writing 400+ page manuals in Word, she 
replied:

Word is... (long pause), Word is... (another long pause). Word is for memos.

Alison

Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead
Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC  V6V 2K9 | 
analogicultrasound.comhttp://www.analogicultrasound.com
T 604-279-8550 ext 127 | F 604-279-8559

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Corinne Kenney
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:26 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons

You are probably right. And when people say everybody knows Word, I tend to 
give this reply:

The good thing about Word is that you can just open it up and start typing.
The bad thing about Word is that -- you can just open it up and start typing.

Corinne Kenney
Sr. Technical Editor/Writer
Raytheon Company

From: Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.netmailto:poshe...@bellsouth.net
To: Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.commailto:alastair.d...@imgtec.com; 
Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.commailto:mhoff...@adobe.com; Shmuel 
Wolfson shmue...@gmail.commailto:shmue...@gmail.com; Theresa de Valence 
t...@bstw.commailto:t...@bstw.com
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com 
framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons

It's been my own experience that requests (actually directives) for using 
only Word came from the Marketing Dept and/or others who didn't believe that 
Tech Pubs could do the job and demanded the ability to go in and correct 
things as they saw fit. And because everybody knows Word, well, that was 
that. (I remember looking at some of their corrections and I'm glad not to be 
there and take the hate calls from totally confused customers.)


From: Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.commailto:alastair.d...@imgtec.com
To: Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.commailto:mhoff...@adobe.com; Shmuel 
Wolfson shmue...@gmail.commailto:shmue...@gmail.com; Theresa de Valence 
t...@bstw.commailto:t...@bstw.com
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com 
framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 AM
Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons

This is 'sort of' possible in Word.

Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading styles 
based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.  Then you only alter the design 
as required for each style. If all your headings use the same font family, then 
it is possible to change the font family by altering the 'Heading Base' style. 
However, if one of your headings uses a different font family from 'Heading 
Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't cascade to that heading.

The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.

-Original Message-
From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
 On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons

I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates that 
I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple paragraph 
styles in one step:

(1) Create Heading1 Heading 2 Heading3 next to each other
(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
Designers
(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the paragraph 
style and that some of the values are set to As Is (probably font size)
(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
(5) FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to 
paragraphs in selected area
(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 paragraphs 
in one step.

You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI



Maxwell Hoffmann |  Product  Evangelist  |  Adobe  |  p. 503.336.5952  |  c. 
503.805.3719  |  mhoff...@adobe.commailto:mhoff...@adobe.com 
http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann -  
http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann%C2%A0 
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Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: 
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-Original Message-
From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
 On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
To: Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject

Re: Word and Frame comparisons

[Jerilynne Knight]

Believe me I have said that as an instructor AND a user! As someone who
lost, multiple times (and, of course, right at the due date) 300 page
documents, I swore that if I ever had to do that kind of work in Word
again, I would charge at least 5 times the normal price!


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Alison Craig
alison.cr...@ultrasonix.comwrote:

 I took a Single Sourcing class a few years ago (before I moved from Word
 to Frame). When I told the instructor I was writing 400+ page manuals in
 Word, she replied:

 ** **

 “Word is… (long pause), Word is… (another long pause). Word is for memos.”
 

 ** **

 Alison

 ** **

 *Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead *

 Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC  V6V 2K9 |
 analogicultrasound.com http://www.analogicultrasound.com 

 *T 604-279-8550 ext 127 | F 604-279-8559** *

 ** **

 *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Corinne Kenney
 *Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:26 AM
 *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com

 *Subject:* Re: Word and Frame comparisons

 ** **

 You are probably right. And when people say everybody knows Word, I tend
 to give this reply:

  

 The good thing about Word is that you can just open it up and start
 typing.

 The bad thing about Word is that -- you can just open it up and start
 typing.

  

 Corinne Kenney

 Sr. Technical Editor/Writer

 Raytheon Company

 ** **

 *From:* Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net
 *To:* Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com; Maxwell Hoffmann 
 mhoff...@adobe.com; Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com; Theresa de
 Valence t...@bstw.com
 *Cc:* framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:04 AM
 *Subject:* Re: Word and Frame comparisons

 ** **

 It's been my own experience that requests (actually directives) for
 using only Word came from the Marketing Dept and/or others who didn't
 believe that Tech Pubs could do the job and demanded the ability to go in
 and correct things as they saw fit. And because everybody knows Word,
 well, that was that. (I remember looking at some of their corrections and
 I'm glad not to be there and take the hate calls from totally confused
 customers.)

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com
 *To:* Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com; Shmuel Wolfson 
 shmue...@gmail.com; Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com
 *Cc:* framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 AM
 *Subject:* RE: Word and Frame comparisons


 This is 'sort of' possible in Word.

 Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading
 styles based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.  Then you only alter
 the design as required for each style. If all your headings use the same
 font family, then it is possible to change the font family by altering the
 'Heading Base' style. However, if one of your headings uses a different
 font family from 'Heading Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't
 cascade to that heading.

 The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
 Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
 To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons

 I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates
 that I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple
 paragraph styles in one step:

 (1) Create Heading1 Heading 2 Heading3 next to each other
 (2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open
 Paragraph Designers
 (3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the
 paragraph style and that some of the values are set to As Is (probably
 font size)
 (4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
 (5) FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to
 paragraphs in selected area
 (6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3
 paragraphs in one step.

 You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI



 Maxwell Hoffmann |  Product  Evangelist  |  Adobe  |  p. 503.336.5952  |
 c. 503.805.3719  |  mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann-
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann%C2%A0 blogs.adobe.com/techcomm
 Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars:
 http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J


 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
 To: Theresa de Valence
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons

 Here's a nice solution for that:
 http

Re: Word and Frame comparisons

[Ken Poshedly]

So right. So darn right! The solution is, in fact, the problem.






 From: Corinne Kenney skiken...@yahoo.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
 


You are probably right. And when people say everybody knows Word, I tend to 
give this reply:
 
The good thing about Word is that you can just open it up and start typing.
The bad thing about Word is that -- you can just open it up and start typing.
 
Corinne Kenney
Sr. Technical Editor/Writer
Raytheon Company


From: Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net
To: Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com; Maxwell Hoffmann 
mhoff...@adobe.com; Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com; Theresa de Valence 
t...@bstw.com 
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons



It's been my own experience that requests (actually directives) for using 
only Word came from the Marketing Dept and/or others who didn't believe that 
Tech Pubs could do the job and demanded the ability to go in and correct 
things as they saw fit. And because everybody knows Word, well, that was 
that. (I remember looking at some of their corrections and I'm glad not to 
be there and take the hate calls from totally confused customers.)





From: Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com
To: Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com; Shmuel Wolfson 
shmue...@gmail.com; Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com 
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 AM
Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons


This is 'sort of' possible in Word.

Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading styles 
based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.  Then you only alter the design 
as required for each style. If all your headings use the same font family, 
then it is possible to change the font family by altering the 'Heading Base' 
style. However, if one of your headings uses a different font family from 
'Heading Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't cascade to that 
heading.

The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons

I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates 
that I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple 
paragraph styles in one step:

(1) Create Heading1 Heading 2 Heading3 next to each other
(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
Designers
(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the 
paragraph style and that some of the values are set to As Is (probably font 
size)
(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
(5)
 FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to paragraphs 
in selected area
(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 
paragraphs in one step.

You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI



Maxwell Hoffmann |  Product  Evangelist  |  Adobe  |  p. 503.336.5952  |  c. 
503.805.3719  |  mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann -  
http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann%C2%A0 blogs.adobe.com/techcomm
Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI    Recorded webinars: 
http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J


-Original
 Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
To: Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons

Here's a nice solution for that:
http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/



On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
 Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
 I have a lot
 of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
 MS Word.

 In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.

 Can this be done in Word?

 Thanks,
 Theresa
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Word and Frame comparisons

[Ken Poshedly]

It's been my own experience that "requests" (actually "directives") for using 
only Word came from the Marketing Dept and/or others who didn't believe that 
Tech Pubs could do the job and demanded the ability to go in and "correct 
things" as they saw fit. And because "everybody knows Word", well, that was 
that. (I remember looking at some of their "corrections" and I'm glad not to be 
there and take the "hate calls" from totally confused customers.)





>
> From: Alastair Dent 
>To: Maxwell Hoffmann ; Shmuel Wolfson gmail.com>; Theresa de Valence  
>Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 AM
>Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons
> 
>
>This is 'sort of' possible in Word.
>
>Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading styles 
>based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.? Then you only alter the design 
>as required for each style. If all your headings use the same font family, 
>then it is possible to change the font family by altering the 'Heading Base' 
>style. However, if one of your headings uses a different font family from 
>'Heading Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't cascade to that 
>heading.
>
>The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
>lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
>Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
>To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
>Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons
>
>I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates 
>that I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple 
>paragraph styles in one step:
>
>(1) Create "Heading1" "Heading 2" "Heading3" next to each other
>(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
>Designers
>(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the paragraph 
>style and that some of the values are set to "As Is" (probably font size)
>(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
>(5) FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to 
>paragraphs in selected area
>(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 
>paragraphs in one step.
>
>You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI
>
>
>
>Maxwell Hoffmann |? Product? Evangelist? |? Adobe? |? p. 503.336.5952? |? c. 
>503.805.3719? |? mhoffman at adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann -? 
>http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann? blogs.adobe.com/techcomm
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>http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
>lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
>Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
>To: Theresa de Valence
>Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
>
>Here's a nice solution for that:
>http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/
>
>
>
>On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
>> Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
>> I have a lot of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
>> MS Word.
>>
>> In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.
>>
>> Can this be done in Word?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Theresa
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[Corinne Kenney]

You are probably right. And when people say "everybody knows Word," I tend to 
give this reply:
?
The "good" thing about Word is that you can just open it up and start typing.
The bad thing about Word is that -- you can just open it up and start typing.
?
Corinne Kenney
Sr. Technical Editor/Writer
Raytheon Company



From: Ken Poshedly <poshe...@bellsouth.net>
To: Alastair Dent ; Maxwell Hoffmann ; Shmuel Wolfson ; Theresa de Valence  
Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons



It's been my own experience that "requests" (actually "directives") for using 
only Word came from the Marketing Dept and/or others who didn't believe that 
Tech Pubs could do the job and demanded the ability to go in and "correct 
things" as they saw fit. And because "everybody knows Word", well, that was 
that. (I remember looking at some of their "corrections" and I'm glad not to be 
there and take the "hate calls" from totally confused customers.)





>
>From: Alastair Dent 
>To: Maxwell Hoffmann ; Shmuel Wolfson gmail.com>; Theresa de Valence  
>Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 AM
>Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons
>
>
>This is 'sort of' possible in Word.
>
>Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading styles 
>based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.? Then you only alter the design 
>as required for each style. If all your headings use the same font family, 
>then it is possible to change the font family by altering the 'Heading Base' 
>style. However, if one of your headings uses a different font family from 
>'Heading Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't cascade to that 
>heading.
>
>The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
>lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
>Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
>To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
>Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons
>
>I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates 
>that I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple 
>paragraph styles in one step:
>
>(1) Create "Heading1" "Heading 2" "Heading3" next to each other
>(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
>Designers
>(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the paragraph 
>style and that some of the values are set to "As Is" (probably font size)
>(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
>(5) FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to 
>paragraphs in selected area
>(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 
>paragraphs in one step.
>
>You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI
>
>
>
>Maxwell Hoffmann |? Product? Evangelist? |? Adobe? |? p. 503.336.5952? |? c. 
>503.805.3719? |? mhoffman at adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann -? 
>http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann%C2%A0 blogs.adobe.com/techcomm
>Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI? ? Recorded webinars: 
>http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
>lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
>Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
>To: Theresa de Valence
>Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
>
>Here's a nice solution for that:
>http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/
>
>
>
>On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
>> Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
>> I have a lot of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
>> MS Word.
>>
>> In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.
>>
>> Can this be done in Word?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Theresa
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Word and Frame comparisons

[Writer]

Lock up templates. Restrict access to source files.

However, having said that, I'm reminded of this quote:

?You can?t make anything idiot proof because idiots are so ingenious.?

Nadine

>
> From: Corinne Kenney 
>To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:25:58 PM
>Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
> 
>
>
>You are probably right. And when people say "everybody knows Word," I tend to 
>give this reply:
>?
>The "good" thing about Word is that you can just open it up and start typing.
>The bad thing about Word is that -- you can just open it up and start typing.
>?
>Corinne Kenney
>Sr. Technical Editor/Writer
>Raytheon Company
>
>
>From: Ken Poshedly 
>To: Alastair Dent ; Maxwell Hoffmann adobe.com>; Shmuel Wolfson ; Theresa de Valence at bstw.com> 
>Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:04 AM
>Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
>
>
>
>It's been my own experience that "requests" (actually "directives") for using 
>only Word came from the Marketing Dept and/or others who didn't believe that 
>Tech Pubs could do the job and demanded the ability to go in and "correct 
>things" as they saw fit. And because "everybody knows Word", well, that was 
>that. (I remember looking at some of their "corrections" and I'm glad not to 
>be there and take the "hate calls" from totally confused customers.)
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Alastair Dent 
>>To: Maxwell Hoffmann ; Shmuel Wolfson >gmail.com>; Theresa de Valence  
>>Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>>Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 AM
>>Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons
>>
>>
>>This is 'sort of' possible in Word.
>>
>>Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading styles 
>>based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.? Then you only alter the design 
>>as required for each style. If all your headings use the same font family, 
>>then it is possible to change the font family by altering the 'Heading Base' 
>>style. However, if one of your headings uses a different font family from 
>>'Heading Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't cascade to that 
>>heading.
>>
>>The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
>>lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
>>Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
>>To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
>>Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons
>>
>>I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates 
>>that I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple 
>>paragraph styles in one step:
>>
>>(1) Create "Heading1" "Heading 2" "Heading3" next to each other
>>(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
>>Designers
>>(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the 
>>paragraph style and that some of the values are set to "As Is" (probably font 
>>size)
>>(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
>>(5)
FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to paragraphs 
in selected area
>>(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 
>>paragraphs in one step.
>>
>>You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI
>>
>>
>>
>>Maxwell Hoffmann |? Product? Evangelist? |? Adobe? |? p. 503.336.5952? |? c. 
>>503.805.3719? |? mhoffman at adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann-? 
>>http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann%C2%A0blogs.adobe.com/techcomm
>>Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI? ? Recorded webinars: 
>>http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J
>>
>>
>>-Original
Message-
>>From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
>>lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
>>To: Theresa de Valence
>>Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
>>
>>Here's a nice solution for that:
>>http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/
>>
>>
>>
>>On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
>>> Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
>>> I have a lot
of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
>>> MS Word.
>>>
>>> In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.
>>>
>>> Can this be done in Word?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Theresa
>>___

Word and Frame comparisons

[Alison Craig]

I took a Single Sourcing class a few years ago (before I moved from Word to 
Frame). When I told the instructor I was writing 400+ page manuals in Word, she 
replied:

"Word is... (long pause), Word is... (another long pause). Word is for memos."

Alison

Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead
Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC  V6V 2K9 | 
analogicultrasound.com<http://www.analogicultrasound.com>
T 604-279-8550 ext 127 | F 604-279-8559

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Corinne Kenney
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:26 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons

You are probably right. And when people say "everybody knows Word," I tend to 
give this reply:

The "good" thing about Word is that you can just open it up and start typing.
The bad thing about Word is that -- you can just open it up and start typing.

Corinne Kenney
Sr. Technical Editor/Writer
Raytheon Company

From: Ken Poshedly mailto:poshe...@bellsouth.net>>
To: Alastair Dent mailto:alastair.dent at 
imgtec.com>>; Maxwell Hoffmann mailto:mhoffman at 
adobe.com>>; Shmuel Wolfson mailto:shmuelw1 at 
gmail.com>>; Theresa de Valence mailto:TdeV at bstw.com>>
Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>" 
mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons

It's been my own experience that "requests" (actually "directives") for using 
only Word came from the Marketing Dept and/or others who didn't believe that 
Tech Pubs could do the job and demanded the ability to go in and "correct 
things" as they saw fit. And because "everybody knows Word", well, that was 
that. (I remember looking at some of their "corrections" and I'm glad not to be 
there and take the "hate calls" from totally confused customers.)


From: Alastair Dent mailto:alastair.d...@imgtec.com>>
To: Maxwell Hoffmann mailto:mhoffman at adobe.com>>; 
Shmuel Wolfson mailto:shmuelw1 at gmail.com>>; Theresa 
de Valence mailto:TdeV at bstw.com>>
Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>" 
mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 AM
Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons

This is 'sort of' possible in Word.

Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading styles 
based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.  Then you only alter the design 
as required for each style. If all your headings use the same font family, then 
it is possible to change the font family by altering the 'Heading Base' style. 
However, if one of your headings uses a different font family from 'Heading 
Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't cascade to that heading.

The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com>] On Behalf Of 
Maxwell Hoffmann
Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons

I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates that 
I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple paragraph 
styles in one step:

(1) Create "Heading1" "Heading 2" "Heading3" next to each other
(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
Designers
(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the paragraph 
style and that some of the values are set to "As Is" (probably font size)
(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
(5) FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to 
paragraphs in selected area
(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 paragraphs 
in one step.

You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI



Maxwell Hoffmann |  Product  Evangelist  |  Adobe  |  p. 503.336.5952  |  c. 
503.805.3719  |  mhoffman at adobe.com<mailto:mhoffman at adobe.com> 
http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann -  
http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann%C2%A0 
blogs.adobe.com/techcomm<http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm>
Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: 
http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-boun...@

Word and Frame comparisons

[Jerilynne Knight]

Believe me I have said that as an instructor AND a user! As someone who
lost, multiple times (and, of course, right at the due date) 300 page
documents, I swore that if I ever had to do that kind of work in Word
again, I would charge at least 5 times the normal price!


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Alison Craig
wrote:

> I took a Single Sourcing class a few years ago (before I moved from Word
> to Frame). When I told the instructor I was writing 400+ page manuals in
> Word, she replied:
>
> ** **
>
> ?Word is? (long pause), Word is? (another long pause). Word is for memos.?
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Alison
>
> ** **
>
> *Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead *
>
> Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC  V6V 2K9 |
> analogicultrasound.com <http://www.analogicultrasound.com> 
>
> *T 604-279-8550 ext 127 | F 604-279-8559** *
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
> framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Corinne Kenney
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:26 AM
> *To:* framers at lists.frameusers.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: Word and Frame comparisons
>
> ** **
>
> You are probably right. And when people say "everybody knows Word," I tend
> to give this reply:
>
>  
>
> The "good" thing about Word is that you can just open it up and start
> typing.
>
> The bad thing about Word is that -- you can just open it up and start
> typing.
>
>  
>
> Corinne Kenney
>
> Sr. Technical Editor/Writer
>
> Raytheon Company
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Ken Poshedly 
> *To:* Alastair Dent ; Maxwell Hoffmann <
> mhoffman at adobe.com>; Shmuel Wolfson ; Theresa de
> Valence 
> *Cc:* "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:04 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Word and Frame comparisons
>
> ** **
>
> It's been my own experience that "requests" (actually "directives") for
> using only Word came from the Marketing Dept and/or others who didn't
> believe that Tech Pubs could do the job and demanded the ability to go in
> and "correct things" as they saw fit. And because "everybody knows Word",
> well, that was that. (I remember looking at some of their "corrections" and
> I'm glad not to be there and take the "hate calls" from totally confused
> customers.)
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Alastair Dent 
> *To:* Maxwell Hoffmann ; Shmuel Wolfson <
> shmuelw1 at gmail.com>; Theresa de Valence 
> *Cc:* "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 AM
> *Subject:* RE: Word and Frame comparisons
>
>
> This is 'sort of' possible in Word.
>
> Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading
> styles based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.  Then you only alter
> the design as required for each style. If all your headings use the same
> font family, then it is possible to change the font family by altering the
> 'Heading Base' style. However, if one of your headings uses a different
> font family from 'Heading Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't
> cascade to that heading.
>
> The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
> framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
> Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
> To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons
>
> I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates
> that I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple
> paragraph styles in one step:
>
> (1) Create "Heading1" "Heading 2" "Heading3" next to each other
> (2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open
> Paragraph Designers
> (3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the
> paragraph style and that some of the values are set to "As Is" (probably
> font size)
> (4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
> (5) FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to
> paragraphs in selected area
> (6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3
> paragraphs in one step.
>
> You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI
>
>
>
> Maxwell Hoffmann |  Product  Evangelist  |  Adobe  |  p. 503.336.5952  |
> c. 503.805.3719  |  mhoffman at adobe.com http://twitter.com/ma

Word and Frame comparisons

[Ken Poshedly]

So right. So darn right! The solution is, in fact, the problem.





>
> From: Corinne Kenney 
>To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:25 PM
>Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
> 
>
>
>You are probably right. And when people say "everybody knows Word," I tend to 
>give this reply:
>?
>The "good" thing about Word is that you can just open it up and start typing.
>The bad thing about Word is that -- you can just open it up and start typing.
>?
>Corinne Kenney
>Sr. Technical Editor/Writer
>Raytheon Company
>
>
>From: Ken Poshedly 
>To: Alastair Dent ; Maxwell Hoffmann adobe.com>; Shmuel Wolfson ; Theresa de Valence at bstw.com> 
>Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:04 AM
>Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
>
>
>
>It's been my own experience that "requests" (actually "directives") for using 
>only Word came from the Marketing Dept and/or others who didn't believe that 
>Tech Pubs could do the job and demanded the ability to go in and "correct 
>things" as they saw fit. And because "everybody knows Word", well, that was 
>that. (I remember looking at some of their "corrections" and I'm glad not to 
>be there and take the "hate calls" from totally confused customers.)
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Alastair Dent 
>>To: Maxwell Hoffmann ; Shmuel Wolfson >gmail.com>; Theresa de Valence  
>>Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>>Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 AM
>>Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons
>>
>>
>>This is 'sort of' possible in Word.
>>
>>Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading styles 
>>based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.? Then you only alter the design 
>>as required for each style. If all your headings use the same font family, 
>>then it is possible to change the font family by altering the 'Heading Base' 
>>style. However, if one of your headings uses a different font family from 
>>'Heading Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't cascade to that 
>>heading.
>>
>>The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
>>lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
>>Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
>>To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
>>Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons
>>
>>I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates 
>>that I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple 
>>paragraph styles in one step:
>>
>>(1) Create "Heading1" "Heading 2" "Heading3" next to each other
>>(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
>>Designers
>>(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the 
>>paragraph style and that some of the values are set to "As Is" (probably font 
>>size)
>>(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
>>(5)
 FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to paragraphs 
in selected area
>>(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 
>>paragraphs in one step.
>>
>>You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI
>>
>>
>>
>>Maxwell Hoffmann |? Product? Evangelist? |? Adobe? |? p. 503.336.5952? |? c. 
>>503.805.3719? |? mhoffman at adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann -? 
>>http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann%C2%A0 blogs.adobe.com/techcomm
>>Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI? ? Recorded webinars: 
>>http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J
>>
>>
>>-Original
 Message-
>>From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
>>lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
>>To: Theresa de Valence
>>Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
>>
>>Here's a nice solution for that:
>>http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/
>>
>>
>>
>>On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
>>> Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
>>> I have a lot
 of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
>>> MS Word.
&g

Word and Frame comparisons

[Alastair Dent]

This is 'sort of' possible in Word.

Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading styles 
based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.  Then you only alter the design 
as required for each style. If all your headings use the same font family, then 
it is possible to change the font family by altering the 'Heading Base' style. 
However, if one of your headings uses a different font family from 'Heading 
Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't cascade to that heading.

The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons

I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates that 
I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple paragraph 
styles in one step:

(1) Create "Heading1" "Heading 2" "Heading3" next to each other
(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
Designers
(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the paragraph 
style and that some of the values are set to "As Is" (probably font size)
(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
(5) FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to 
paragraphs in selected area
(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 paragraphs 
in one step.

You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI



Maxwell Hoffmann |? Product? Evangelist? |? Adobe? |? p. 503.336.5952? |? c. 
503.805.3719? |? mhoffman at adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann -? 
http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann? blogs.adobe.com/techcomm
Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: 
http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
To: Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons

Here's a nice solution for that:
http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/



On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
> Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
> I have a lot of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
> MS Word.
>
> In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.
>
> Can this be done in Word?
>
> Thanks,
> Theresa
___


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RE: Word and Frame comparisons

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates that 
I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple paragraph 
styles in one step:

(1) Create Heading1 Heading 2 Heading3 next to each other
(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
Designers
(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the paragraph 
style and that some of the values are set to As Is (probably font size)
(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
(5) FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to 
paragraphs in selected area
(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 paragraphs 
in one step.

You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI



Maxwell Hoffmann |  Product  Evangelist  |  Adobe  |  p. 503.336.5952  |  c. 
503.805.3719  |  mhoff...@adobe.com 
http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann -  
http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann  blogs.adobe.com/techcomm
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-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
To: Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons

Here's a nice solution for that:
http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/



On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
 Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
 I have a lot of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
 MS Word.

 In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.

 Can this be done in Word?

 Thanks,
 Theresa
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Word and Frame comparisons

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates that 
I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple paragraph 
styles in one step:

(1) Create "Heading1" "Heading 2" "Heading3" next to each other
(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
Designers
(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the paragraph 
style and that some of the values are set to "As Is" (probably font size)
(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
(5) FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to 
paragraphs in selected area
(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 paragraphs 
in one step.

You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI



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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
To: Theresa de Valence
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Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons

Here's a nice solution for that:
http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/



On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
> Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
> I have a lot of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
> MS Word.
>
> In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.
>
> Can this be done in Word?
>
> Thanks,
> Theresa

Re: Word and Frame comparisons

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Here's a nice solution for that:
http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/



On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
I have a lot of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
MS Word.


In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.

Can this be done in Word?

Thanks,
Theresa
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Word and Frame comparisons

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Here's a nice solution for that:
http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/



On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
> Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
> I have a lot of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
> MS Word.
>
> In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.
>
> Can this be done in Word?
>
> Thanks,
> Theresa
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Word and Frame comparisons

[Theresa de Valence]

Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... I 
have a lot of experience with Frame and very little experience with MS Word.


In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.

Can this be done in Word?

Thanks,
Theresa
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RE: Word and Frame comparisons

[Fred Ridder]

The answer is yes and no.

*If* the paragraph has a specific style assigned to it, you can return the 
paragraph formatting to that of the defined style by pressing Ctrl+Q. And if 
you have the whole paragraph selected, you can return all the characters to the 
default formatting for the paragraph style by pressing Ctrl+Spacebar.

But if the document uses locally formatted Normal style, all you'll get by 
using these keystrokes is the equivalent of plain text.

-Fred Ridder

 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:04:25 -0500
 From: t...@bstw.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Word and Frame comparisons
 
 Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... I 
 have a lot of experience with Frame and very little experience with MS Word.
 
 In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.
 
 Can this be done in Word?
 
 Thanks,
 Theresa
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Word and Frame comparisons

[Theresa de Valence]

Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... I 
have a lot of experience with Frame and very little experience with MS Word.

In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.

Can this be done in Word?

Thanks,
Theresa

Word and Frame comparisons

[Fred Ridder]

The answer is yes and no.

*If* the paragraph has a specific style assigned to it, you can return the 
paragraph formatting to that of the defined style by pressing Ctrl+Q. And if 
you have the whole paragraph selected, you can return all the characters to the 
default formatting for the paragraph style by pressing Ctrl+Spacebar.

But if the document uses locally formatted Normal style, all you'll get by 
using these keystrokes is the equivalent of plain text.

-Fred Ridder

> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:04:25 -0500
> From: TdeV at bstw.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Word and Frame comparisons
> 
> Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... I 
> have a lot of experience with Frame and very little experience with MS Word.
> 
> In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.
> 
> Can this be done in Word?
> 
> Thanks,
> Theresa
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