OT: markups
Hi Framers: I have an OT questions -- when you mark up someone's document, or when they mark up your document, how do you determine between must change markups and strongly recommend markups? Thanks, Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: markups
If I'm using hard copy, two different colors -- red and black ink, for instance. Electronically in an Acrobat review, by setting different comment properties/flags/levels. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Deirdre Reagan deirdre.rea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Framers: I have an OT questions -- when you mark up someone's document, or when they mark up your document, how do you determine between must change markups and strongly recommend markups? Thanks, Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: markups
Aha. The dreaded Happy to Glad question. I think this should read happy. No, I think this should read glad. In my world now, building industrial catalogs, we use red only and that is for MUST changes that if not made will cause the end of man kind as we know it or maybe kill someone. In our business there is no such thing as strongly recommend, it would be nice or, as we used to call it in the newspaper business, happy to glad. If we allowed this we would have every pulitzer wannabe putting his or her spin on a 3/4 open end wrench or 5-gallon safety can. Scott White Media Production Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Feb 5, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: Hi Framers: I have an OT questions -- when you mark up someone's document, or when they mark up your document, how do you determine between must change markups and strongly recommend markups? Thanks, Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as swh...@alamark.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/swhite%40alamark.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: markups
LOL -- the Happy to Glad rule! Never heard of it. That's very funny. Thanks so much for the comments so far. A lot of my comments are of the must change variety, but a lot of my comments are it could be this way if you mean this, and it could be this way if you mean that and the author realizes, oh! not clear, and rewrites in a third, clear way. This is probably a small issue, but I just wanted to check with you experts to see how the world at large handles it, before I start laying down the law here in my corner of the universe. As usual, you people are funny and full of wisdom. I love this list. Deirdre On 2/5/09, Scott White swh...@alamark.com wrote: Aha. The dreaded Happy to Glad question. I think this should read happy. No, I think this should read glad. In my world now, building industrial catalogs, we use red only and that is for MUST changes that if not made will cause the end of man kind as we know it or maybe kill someone. In our business there is no such thing as strongly recommend, it would be nice or, as we used to call it in the newspaper business, happy to glad. If we allowed this we would have every pulitzer wannabe putting his or her spin on a 3/4 open end wrench or 5-gallon safety can. Scott White Media Production Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Feb 5, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: Hi Framers: I have an OT questions -- when you mark up someone's document, or when they mark up your document, how do you determine between must change markups and strongly recommend markups? Thanks, Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as swh...@alamark.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/swhite%40alamark.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: markups
Hi Framers: I have an OT questions -- when you mark up someone's document, or when they mark up your document, how do you determine between "must change" markups and "strongly recommend" markups? Thanks, Deirdre
OT: markups
If I'm using hard copy, two different colors -- red and black ink, for instance. Electronically in an Acrobat review, by setting different comment properties/flags/levels. Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Hi Framers: > > I have an OT questions -- when you mark up someone's document, or when > they mark up your document, how do you determine between "must change" > markups and "strongly recommend" markups? > > Thanks, > > Deirdre > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
OT: markups
Aha. The dreaded "Happy to Glad" question. I think this should read "happy." No, I think this should read "glad." In my world now, building industrial catalogs, we use red only and that is for MUST changes that if not made will cause the end of man kind as we know it or maybe kill someone. In our business there is no such thing as "strongly recommend", "it would be nice" or, as we used to call it in the newspaper business, "happy to glad." If we allowed this we would have every pulitzer wannabe putting his or her spin on a 3/4" open end wrench or 5-gallon safety can. Scott White Media Production Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swhite at alamark.com On Feb 5, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Hi Framers: > > I have an OT questions -- when you mark up someone's document, or when > they mark up your document, how do you determine between "must change" > markups and "strongly recommend" markups? > > Thanks, > > Deirdre > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as swhite at alamark.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/swhite%40alamark.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
OT: markups
LOL -- the "Happy to Glad" rule! Never heard of it. That's very funny. Thanks so much for the comments so far. A lot of my comments are of the "must change" variety, but a lot of my comments are "it could be this way if you mean this, and it could be this way if you mean that" and the author realizes, "oh! not clear," and rewrites in a third, clear way. This is probably a small issue, but I just wanted to check with you experts to see how the world at large handles it, before I start laying down the law here in my corner of the universe. As usual, you people are funny and full of wisdom. I love this list. Deirdre On 2/5/09, Scott White wrote: > Aha. The dreaded "Happy to Glad" question. I think this should read "happy." > No, I think this should read "glad." > In my world now, building industrial catalogs, we use red only and that is > for MUST changes that if not made will cause the end of man kind as we know > it or maybe kill someone. In our business there is no such thing as > "strongly recommend", "it would be nice" or, as we used to call it in the > newspaper business, "happy to glad." If we allowed this we would have every > pulitzer wannabe putting his or her spin on a 3/4" open end wrench or > 5-gallon safety can. > > > Scott White > Media Production Manager > Implementation Coordinator > 210-704-8239 > swhite at alamark.com > > > > > On Feb 5, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > > > > > Hi Framers: > > > > I have an OT questions -- when you mark up someone's document, or when > > they mark up your document, how do you determine between "must change" > > markups and "strongly recommend" markups? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Deirdre > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as swhite at alamark.com. > > > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/swhite%40alamark.com > > > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > > > >
markups
> I have an OT questions -- when you mark up someone's document, or when > they mark up your document, how do you determine between "must change" > markups and "strongly recommend" markups? We require the reviewers to be clear in what they want! :) Separate, but related, all our technical documentation and specs contain the following paragraph near the beginning: Key Words The key words "must", "must not", "required", "shall", "shall not", "should", "should not", "recommended", "may", and "optional" in this document are to be interpreted as described in 'Aeris Key Words to Indicate Requirement Levels'. And the "Aeris..." document above - as well as these words used in the specs - is heavily based on RFC 2119 (available here: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt?number=2119). I.e., we follow the RFC guidelines cleanly. Then, people doing the document reviews internally here - before release - have learned to mark their comments accordingly. The use of the word "must" and "should" are particularly important - people often use "should" when they mean "must"! Marketing docs and collateral do not contain the words mentioned above, of course, but our reviewers know to mark them the same way. :) Z
