Re: From A4 to A5 with trim marks
Why does he/she want 2x A5 with print marks on an A3? If your client wants this printed (why else the print marks) just have the print shop do this. No problem for them, and probably no or little extra cost. If you really want to do this as your client suggests, just print to ps (file) from FM scaling it to 70.7% (which is the scaling between the DIN sizes, e.g.: 210mm/297mm=0.70707070) selecting A4 as the pdf page size and selecting print marks (Western). Distill and you get A5 with printmarks on A4. Print from Acrobat 2 up on A3. Is this what you were thinking about? Bodvar On 4/4/07, mathieu jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, a client created a document in A4 format with Framemaker. Now he wants to have it printed in A5 format (without any change in FrameMaker). So he wants a high quality pdf with 2 (default FM A4) pages juxtaposed on a (output pdf) A3 sheet, with trim marks (call them swallows in French, same thing in English?). My problem is that when I generate my pdf, it comes out with the two A4 pages juxtaposed on a A3 sheet, but with trim marks ALL AROUND EACH A4 page, which is normal since the FM default page format is A4. Is it possible to have trim marks only around the outer edges of the 2 A4 taken together (no trim mark in between)? Thank you, Mathieu. _ Windows Live Spaces : créez votre blog à votre image ! http://www.windowslive.fr/spaces ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker deals on eBay...
When buying through such channels always check for the serial number. Scammers won't reply, as they fear they will be exposed. EBay gives you a certain security here if you do things the right way. Ask the seller the necessary questions before you buy and to that through the e-bay system, not by regular e-mail. If the seller scams you after that, you will most likely get refunded, at least if you have used PayPal for payment. You can learn about all this on the e-Bay website. I have ha no unfortunate experiences on e-Bay yet, except once when I was buying some old LP. It may just as well have been lost in the superior US Postal system. Not all e-Bayers are dumping software because an upgrade is coming. Some just have purchased too large stock or one that does not sell in their shop (often because they don't know what kind of software this is -- especially true with special software like FM), and maybe they have a dumb rule that says after so and so long time on stock: dump. Some times there has been a merger (no!!!)... Bodvar On 4/5/07, Bruce Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More Words of Wisdom from Dov. Several years ago a guy scammed me with a FrameMaker sale via Ebay. I learned that Adobe was looking for him for previous scams. 'Nuff Said? BW --- Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make no such assumption, especially when dealing with eBay. The prices mentioned reflect (1) someone has genuine product obtained illicitly - use your imagination, (2) copied CDs with either a cracked software version or stolen serial serial number, or (3) ... Remember that prices that are too good to be true are the best indicators of fraud of some type. - Dov -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Borokowski Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:01 AM To: Scott Prentice; 'Framers'; Free Framers List Subject: Re: FrameMaker deals on eBay... Must mean a new version is coming soon. Prices always drop to reduce stock. --- Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** with unsubscribe framers (no quotes) in the body. ** Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FW: Graphics and Reference Pages
Thanks, Stuart. I had forgotten about this one. Downloaded it 2-3 years ago and did not have the time to use it. Did some testing just now and found that, seemingly, it can completely replace the awkward tables. I am going to give it a serious try, as I am in the middle of a manual which does a frequent use of icons for notes, warnings and cautions, which I had went into trouble of creating in Illustrator (using my limited skills!). Bodvar On 4/16/07, Stuart Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kristy Nolan wrote: From: Kristy Nolan Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:11 PM To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com' Subject: Graphics and Reference Pages Hello, All! This has been my first real venture into reference pages and I have managed to befuddle myself. I am trying to connect a small graphic to a particular paragraph tag. I managed to get the tagging part correct. However, I want the graphic to appear directly left of the paragraph, not above/below. Does anyone have an idea of how to do this? And, if so, am I correct in my assumption that there are no strange caveats to using structured Frame and these? Please reply directly, as I am on digest and won't see any answers until tomorrow morning. Kristy, Frame doesn't directly support your goal via the frame above/below feature. However, you can get the result you want by using a borderless, one-row, two-cell table, with the left cell pgf-tagged with a tiny font (no content) and a frame below containing your icon. Put the textual content in the other cell. An easier way is to get the free reficons plug-in by Chris Despopoulos, available here: http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/ HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com It is not enough that I succeed. Others must fail. -- Oscar Wilde ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Arabic translations from English FrameMaker files
Hi Tanya, FM does not work well with Arabic (or other without extended ASCII languages). However, for small jobs I have been able to do this by adding settings the environments on my computer to Arabic (except for the keyboard settings -- you should be able to toggle between your regular locale now and the Arabic) and copy the Arabic text from Word or Open Office Writer (and do the necessary changes in there) to a ready FM frame flow. You can even do some changes in FM by finding out the key combinations for the different forms of the arabic letters. The last thing I had done by one of our staff whose native language is Arabic etc. Hope this is of some help. For bigger jobs you would certainly need some outside help. I believe there are several people on the list that could help you there. Bodvar On 5/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FrameMaker V7.1 (English) Windows XP Pro SP2 Multi-lingual in Arabic language environment I am unable to access the archives to view any previous discussions on this matter. There are websites out there that suggest you can force FrameMaker to play the game with Arabic text. I am currently massaging English templates to use with Arabic text, and having to overcome many obstacles; so far I have discovered some workarounds to achieve the same end, so I have kept going. Our biggest obstacle is the random insertion of text (not at the cursor point), and application of character tags and conditional tags that change the selected text to something completely different. I am assuming that this is due to the lack of support for unicode characters. This appears to be a show-stopper. Has anyone had any success in this field? Are there any plug-ins available? Is it time to abandon commonsense and resort to Word? If it can work, does anyone know of an Arabic dictionary that can be slotted into the file system for use with FrameMaker? Currently I have assigned None as the language in all paragraph and character tags, but it would be most useful to assign an Arabic dictionary. Regards, Tanya Griffin Technical Documentation Manager Codan Limited 81 Graves Street NEWTON SA 5074 Phone: +61 8 8305 0457 Fax: +61 8 8305 0411 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: How many FM users are there?
Hi Diane, Adobe should know how many licenses they have _sold_. How many are _using_ FM is a different matter. I guess they are somewhat fewer. I base that assumption on the fact that you can get used FM second hand (including all paperwork). This leads me to assume that a (small?) number of licenses are no longer in use. Also, CDs get lost and Adobe probably do not want to replace a lost CD even if you have all the information about the CD, the invoice etc. At least, I don't know anyone who has tried to get a software company of this size to send a replacement CD. Example from my experience: My IT department lost our copy of Adobe CS1 (which is 50-100% more expensive here than in the US, thanks to the centuries old feudal system these so-called International businesses commonly use -- they sometimes seem not to have heard of the Internet!), but luckily it showed up again nearly a year later. They have lost a lot of other software CDs. Luckily most of those are outdated anyway. I guess not many are using illegal copies of FM. FM is simply not a kind of software that you can use powerfully on your own without a lot of learning and support. Which makes it awkward, to say the least, to use an illegal copy. Start a project to have FM users register as users (anonymous to Adobe, of course, if there should be any people actually trying to use an illegal copy!). However, I guess that this would be a difficult task, and, many, as with our company, are using it only temporarily, being replaced by others etc; which would probably mean that we could only expect a maximum of 1/4-1/2 of the actual users to register. I would guess even fewer. grinSo why not get the guys who write Numbers to come up with a formula to calculate the users. It takes less than an hour on the show! /grin Seats here: 6. Users: 3 (for now). Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Iceland On 5/9/07, Diane Gaskill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I know Adobe keeps all of their numbers a Big Secret, but I am creating a comparison spreadsheet in my research on FM vs AT and I need to have a general idea of how many FM seats have been installed. FM has been in use since the late 1980s and I would estimate at least 100K seats. If anyone on the list can provide an more accurate number, I'd really appreciate the information. Incidentally, PTC says they have 20K installed seats. Thanks, Diane ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Character switching FM/Distiller
Hi all, I am trying to use Zapf Dingbats (that has never failed me!) to display and print a.o. the digit 2 in a ring. The FM shortcut is CTRL-q - (dash) or ALT-0173. The weird thing is that in both instances (using CTRL-q - (dash) and ALT-0173) or by copy - pasting from the character map, the character shows correctly in FM 7.2 but after distilling, the pdf shows the hand holding pen turning left. Both characters are using the dash, according to the character map, with the difference that the hand is hard dash and the 2 circled is the soft dash. Any ideas? Will I need to use the circled numbers from Wingdings 1? I have no problems with the circled 1. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson, Supervisor Publishing, Air Atlanta Icelandic. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FW: Adobe CEO interview
On 5/18/07, Ann Zdunczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is interesting that I have been hearing about paperless offices for years but have yet to see one. On the news last night there was a story about one of the Baltic states (Estonia or Latvia, IIRC) complaining that Russia was attacking their computer systems (which, of course Russia denies!). This state is probably the only one in the world (or at least the first one) that went for the paperless office in their government offices. The CEO of F-Prot (www.fprot.com) commented that sadly it is very easy to attack and force to a standstill such systems, and that [some of] the former USSR nations were using this as a political weapon. I am not going to elaborate about it here, but such attacks can be very difficult to track, and more so as the attackers usually use thousands of sleepers all over the world for these attacks. There is, I understand, no solution to the problem in sight. I do not see a paperless office in the near future. There would have to be a major change in the Internet system for that to happen -- which might just as well end in doing away with the Internet as such. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson -- never pessimistic, even on a Monday. OK my two cents for a Friday. Have a GREAT weekend everyone. Z ** Ann Zdunczyk President a2z Publishing, Inc. Language Layout Translation Consulting Phone: (336)922-1271 Fax: (336)922-4980 Cell: (336)456-4493 http://www.a2z-pub.com ** ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker.next
Bill, are you by any chance implying that FramMaker.next will come with a Sushi support. That would be nice. FM does such a nice thing of wrapping upp a lots of things anyway! ;-) Bodvar Bjorgvinsson -- here to lighten up your Monday morning. On 5/17/07, Bill Swallow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an aside (and just to make Bernard blush, if that's possible), if you ever get a chance to sit in on training or a presentation done by Bernard, DO IT!!! I have to say that he was my favorite presenter at the conference (or maybe he just had the best and most interesting material...) You'll learn lots of great information and techniques from him, and be entertained at the same time -- but be sure you've had lots of caffeine so you can keep up. :-) Yes, but if you have a chance to eat sushi with Bernard, make sure you are at the end where he is ordering from to prevent the draining of the entire ocean's population onto your table. ;-) I think we ate more sushi at our table (of about 10-12 people) than was eaten that entire day by all other patrons. ;-) I'm not complaining by any means. On another plus side, the Sapporos kept coming. ;-) -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager http://techcommdood.blogspot.com avid homebrewer and proud beer snob I see your OOO message and raise you a clue. ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Character switching FM/Distiller
Hi Penelope and Kenneth, Thank you for your help. I regret to be late in replying. Usually replies move the thread into the Inbox of my Gmail, but this time it did not. I just started looking in my Sent Mail because of the thread (header) Confused about hexadecimal Codes, and then I saw a couple of replies to my posting. Kenneth: You are absolutely right. This is not a Distiller problem. I would rather think this is has to do with the PS driver. The character prints as intended on any non-postscript printer, but on a PostScript printer and to PDF it prints incorrectly. Penelope: It would have set me on the right track if I had read it eariler. :-( But the Confused... thread lead me to study the online manual: FrameMaker Character Sets where I saw that there is no entry for the circled roman 2, which must be rated as a bug. However, the sans-serif circled 2 has an entry, as referred to in your reply. ADOBE: I think Adobe should really make a separate revision/upgrade to this part of FM for all versions 7.x at least, or if this is, as I am starting to suspect, a PostScript driver fault, to revise the Adobe PostScript driver, and have this solved in the FrameMaker.next (as Bernard prefers to call the next version). Thanks again and God bless, Bodvar On 5/16/07, Penelope Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bodvar, I can confirm this behavior on Win XP, FM 7.2, Acro 7.0. Do you recall the issue a number of years ago with Zapf Dingbats and Win2000/XP? To get the right characters to both display and print, you had to edit the PPD for the printer driver. I thought that might have something to do with your problematic circle-2, but I checked the PPD used by Distiller 7 and it doesn't even include the line that the fix told you to edit. Just out of curiosity, I tried this on a system with Win2000, FM 7.0, Acro 5.5, and got the same results, regardless of whether that PPD is edited, so it's not a new problem. Do you have to use the serif numbers? There are sans serif numbers in circles starting at ALT+0192; I tested to make sure ALT+0193 really produces a circle-2. BTW, you can see info about the aforementioned issue at http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.ef4dc73 Regards, Penelope = Penelope Perkins, Senior Technical Writer Synergex Sacramento, California [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com] On Behalf Of Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:48 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Character switching FM/Distiller Hi all, I am trying to use Zapf Dingbats (that has never failed me!) to display and print a.o. the digit 2 in a ring. The FM shortcut is CTRL-q - (dash) or ALT-0173. The weird thing is that in both instances (using CTRL-q - (dash) and ALT-0173) or by copy - pasting from the character map, the character shows correctly in FM 7.2 but after distilling, the pdf shows the hand holding pen turning left. Both characters are using the dash, according to the character map, with the difference that the hand is hard dash and the 2 circled is the soft dash. Any ideas? Will I need to use the circled numbers from Wingdings 1? I have no problems with the circled 1. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson, Supervisor Publishing, Air Atlanta Icelandic. ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Character switching FM/Distiller
On 5/21/07, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it is worth, there is no such thing as an Adobe PostScript Driver, at least for the current versions of Windows. The driver used for the Adobe PDF PostScript printer driver instance and for most printers supporting PostScript is in fact the PSCRIPT5 driver distributed and maintained by Microsoft as part of Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Vista. Although Adobe worked with Microsoft to originally develop that driver nearly eight years ago, Microsoft has had full responsibility for it ever since. I stand corrected. :-) The problems with FrameMaker's poor character set support cannot be readily solved without full Unicode support. You will NOT see such support in any FrameMaker 7.x (or earlier) versions. - Dov Not too good news for FM 7 owners/users, Dov. Hopefully FM 8 will have the full Unicode support. Thanks for the info. Bodvar ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM crashes on print book to file (surprise! No?)
I am starting to get annoyed with FrameMaker. (Sorry for a lengthy message). On a few occasions I have plagued the list with my complaints about FM (mainly 7.2) crashing on printing a book to ps. I have now spent half the day trying to produce an online PDF with bookmarks. No problem printing to ps without bookmarks, so we have that one in the clear. It started by FM crashing on a certain file (chapter 3) on a specific page, no matter whether I had the files open or not. Having them open only added the extra work of removing the recovery files. Having removed these three times, I went for the closed files printing. Also I MIF-washed the files but go no better results. I tested the offending file by itself and it printed to file with bookmarks ok, but printing from the book, it always crashed FM at the same page. A couple of pages earlier, around the point where the pdf started to lack contents seriously (yes, I managed to pdf the ps part, and I also had a look at the ps in GSView which showed less content), there was a OLEd Visio file. I found the pdf and eps-ed it and replaced the graphics. Same result. I found a Xref marker on the crashing page and deleted it, and now it went a couple of pages further. I removed FM 7.2 (plus patch), restarted the PC and installed all (FM + patches) again. No change. I started a new document, imported the formats and then the contents and replaced the file. Now it went all the way down to one of the last chapters, where it crashed again with the same messages. No Xref on that page, only a table (and this file got a lot of tables). Now I did as with chapter 3, started a new document, copied etc. and started the printing again. And what now. Now I got as far as to the same page in chapter 3 as in the first tries. I am out of guesses. What can I do? And why cannot FM give any humanly understandable hints? For 8.0, why not add internal checkpoints that tells us what exactly is causing the crashing? It should not be that difficult when the print process hits an offending item to have the application point that out. Is there a malfunction in the Xref marker, is the graphic not kosher, etc. Any help out there, please? I am going home now. Will check the mail in the morning. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Supervisor Publishing Air Atlanta Icelandic. http://www.airatlanta.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM layout causing inconsistency when printing a PDF?
Hi Rene, I can only tell you how it is with Acrobat 6. When one prints a pdf from Acrobat other than the standard set size (Letter size in the US, A4 in Europe), Acrobat usually does something of the sort you explain. I have a lot of users that have to be able to print different sizes, and my solution has been this: Before you print from Acrobat, you have to go to Acrobat's File Print Setup (SHIFT+CTRL+P) and set the size in there. Then and only then can you expect to print in the normal way (CTRL+P). It seems that it is not enough to set the settings int the regular Print window. The downside is that this is something you have to tell your customers to do, because Adobe did not exactly advertise this clumsiness. Hopefully this has been solved in later versions of Acrobat. HTH, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson On 5/31/07, Rene Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, We have a quick reference guide that uses a (US) legal-size landscape layout. It is set up in FM as a custom page size 14x8 with 3 columns in the text frame. It's to be printed duplex and then folded accordian-style. Initially, we were going to be working with a professional printer, but now the customers are requiring that we deliver the file in PDF format. So far, no big deal, right? Well, when the customers print the PDF of the file, it doesn't align properly on the paper. It's as if the printer is adding an additional 1/4 margin to the top (long) edge if it's printed directly from FM. If we create the PDF file first and THEN print the PDF on the same printer, there seems to be an additional margin added to both the long and short edges (top and left). I'm assuming these odd results are due to the printer drivers involved. In light of the fact that we cannot know what printers our customers might use, is there any way that we can make some settings in the PDF Setup in FM 7.2 or in Distiller 7 that would default the printer settings to no margin to get a proper print result? Otherwise, the only thing I know to do is provide a ReadMe file to the customer informing them that the file is to be printed on legal paper, but due to variances in printer drivers, we cannot guarantee alignment of the layout...? Thanks, Rene Stephenson ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM crashes on print book to file (surprise! No?)
My FNTCACHE.DAT was only 767 kb this morning. I deleted it nevertheless and rebooted. Now it is the same size as before (767 kb). And I am trying to print again. Result: Crash at the same point as before, page 13 in chapter 3. :-( To answer Art's questions: Platform: WinXP SP2. Acrobat Configuration: I guess you mean the the PDF settings of FrameMaker (since this happens as FM is printing out the PS file. I am using what I call TS-OnlineA4.joboption and it looks like this (I hope the list admins don't find this to long): /ASCII85EncodePages false /AllowTransparency false /AutoPositionEPSFiles true /AutoRotatePages /All /Binding /Left /CalGrayProfile (Gray Gamma 2.2) /CalRGBProfile (sRGB IEC61966-2.1) /CalCMYKProfile (U.S. Web Coated \050SWOP\051 v2) /sRGBProfile (sRGB IEC61966-2.1) /CannotEmbedFontPolicy /Warning /CompatibilityLevel 1.4 /CompressObjects /Tags /CompressPages true /ConvertImagesToIndexed true /PassThroughJPEGImages true /CreateJDFFile false /CreateJobTicket false /DefaultRenderingIntent /Default /DetectBlends true /ColorConversionStrategy /LeaveColorUnchanged /DoThumbnails false /EmbedAllFonts true /EmbedJobOptions false /DSCReportingLevel 0 /SyntheticBoldness 1.00 /EmitDSCWarnings false /EndPage -1 /ImageMemory 1048576 /LockDistillerParams false /MaxSubsetPct 100 /Optimize true /OPM 1 /ParseDSCComments true /ParseDSCCommentsForDocInfo true /PreserveCopyPage true /PreserveEPSInfo false /PreserveHalftoneInfo false /PreserveOPIComments false /PreserveOverprintSettings true /StartPage 1 /SubsetFonts true /TransferFunctionInfo /Apply /UCRandBGInfo /Remove /UsePrologue true /ColorSettingsFile (Color Management Off) /AlwaysEmbed [ true ] /NeverEmbed [ true ] /AntiAliasColorImages false /DownsampleColorImages true /ColorImageDownsampleType /Bicubic /ColorImageResolution 192 /ColorImageDepth -1 /ColorImageDownsampleThreshold 1.04167 /EncodeColorImages true /ColorImageFilter /DCTEncode /AutoFilterColorImages true /ColorImageAutoFilterStrategy /JPEG /ColorACSImageDict /QFactor 0.76 /HSamples [2 1 1 2] /VSamples [2 1 1 2] /ColorImageDict /QFactor 0.76 /HSamples [2 1 1 2] /VSamples [2 1 1 2] /JPEG2000ColorACSImageDict /TileWidth 256 /TileHeight 256 /Quality 15 /JPEG2000ColorImageDict /TileWidth 256 /TileHeight 256 /Quality 15 /AntiAliasGrayImages false /DownsampleGrayImages true /GrayImageDownsampleType /Bicubic /GrayImageResolution 192 /GrayImageDepth -1 /GrayImageDownsampleThreshold 1.5 /EncodeGrayImages true /GrayImageFilter /DCTEncode /AutoFilterGrayImages true /GrayImageAutoFilterStrategy /JPEG /GrayACSImageDict /QFactor 0.76 /HSamples [2 1 1 2] /VSamples [2 1 1 2] /GrayImageDict /QFactor 0.76 /HSamples [2 1 1 2] /VSamples [2 1 1 2] /JPEG2000GrayACSImageDict /TileWidth 256 /TileHeight 256 /Quality 15 /JPEG2000GrayImageDict /TileWidth 256 /TileHeight 256 /Quality 15 /AntiAliasMonoImages true /DownsampleMonoImages true /MonoImageDownsampleType /Bicubic /MonoImageResolution 192 /MonoImageDepth 4 /MonoImageDownsampleThreshold 1.5 /EncodeMonoImages true /MonoImageFilter /CCITTFaxEncode /MonoImageDict /K -1 /AllowPSXObjects true /PDFX1aCheck false /PDFX3Check false /PDFXCompliantPDFOnly false /PDFXNoTrimBoxError true /PDFXTrimBoxToMediaBoxOffset [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] /PDFXSetBleedBoxToMediaBox true /PDFXBleedBoxToTrimBoxOffset [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] /PDFXOutputIntentProfile (None) /PDFXOutputCondition () /PDFXRegistryName (http://www.color.org) /PDFXTrapped /False /Description /JPN FEFF3053306e8a2d5b9a306f300130d330b830cd30b9658766f8306e8868793a304a3088307353705237306b90693057305f00200050004400460020658766f830924f5c62103059308b3068304d306b4f7f75283057307e305930023053306e8a2d5b9a30674f5c62103057305f00200050004400460020658766f8306f0020004100630072006f0062006100740020304a30883073002000520065006100640065007200200035002e003000204ee5964d30678868793a3067304d307e30593002 /DEU
Re: FM crashes on print book to file (surprise! No?)
Art, Thank you for your concern and sorry for the misunderstanding. I am using the Distiller 7 that came with FM. I also have installed Acrbat 6 pro. The odd thing though is that it seems that FM can see the old joboptions, but Distiller 7 can only see the ones that reside in its own default folder. However, I have been promised Acrobat 8 within the week, so I will check that one out as I said in an earlier posting. If that does not resolve the problem I will probably have to iron the hard drive as we say over here and do a clean install of everything. Maybe the plethora of updates (security and insecurity) of XP is doing some tricks on the system that influences FM in a disturbing way. Anyway, this behavior seems to be increasing. I have never before had this sort of situation with FM 7.2 that I could not find a way around with the help of the friends on the list or otherwise. For the present manual, this is not a great problem. I had printed the book several weeks ago in the same way without any problems, but found out that I had been a little bit hasty about the TOC, so I had to update the book and rerun the TOC and replaced it in the pdf file for printing. Now I am only trying to print the book in order to have the hyperlinking work in the pdf. But since it is primarily a hard copy document, this is not such a big issue. Bodvar On 6/4/07, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bodvar, Actually, I was asking if you were using the Distiller instance that ships with FM, or if you have a complete Acrobat installation... Art On 6/1/07, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My FNTCACHE.DAT was only 767 kb this morning. I deleted it nevertheless and rebooted. Now it is the same size as before (767 kb). And I am trying to print again. Result: Crash at the same point as before, page 13 in chapter 3. :-( ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM crashes on print book to file (surprise! No?)
On 6/4/07, Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: I am using the Distiller 7 that came with FM. I also have installed Acrbat 6 pro. The odd thing though is that it seems that FM can see the old joboptions, but Distiller 7 can only see the ones that reside in its own default folder. In case Dov Isaacs isn't online today to promptly chastise you, permit me. ;-) ROFLMAO! You are welcome. And don't you tell me you don't enjoy it! ;-) Multiple/mixed Acrobat installations are a very, very bad idea. Dov has warned countless times that it can lead to unpredictable and unstable behavior. When you installed FM, you should not have installed Distiller 7 (assuming you'd prefer the full Acrobat 6 to just Distiller 7). And it has all been said many times before, _but_ this has usually not been a problem when you first install the newer version of Distiller and then the older one. Now, you need to completely uninstall both Acrobat 6 and Distiller 7. After that's done, either reinstall one, but not the other, or wait until you get Acrobat 8, and then install it. Do *not* install Acrobat 8 without removing Acrobat 6 and Distiller 7 first. And this is exactly what I am going to do. :-) I believe the .joboptions files have moved around some in recent releases, but I don't recall the details. Google techwr-l.com for joboptions locations or something like that. I seem to recall having to copy my old ones somewhere after moving to Acro 7. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. Bodvar ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM crashes on print book to file (surprise! No?)
Thanks for the link, Art. It will come in handy. Bodvar On 6/4/07, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The job option info is here at adobe: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=333453 I actually like this bug a lot, because it lets you isolate one or two settings files and reserve them for use in FM, but still keep as many as you want available in Acrobat. Makes always getting the right setting file in FM easy, cause there aren't any options. Art On 6/4/07, Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: I am using the Distiller 7 that came with FM. I also have installed Acrbat 6 pro. The odd thing though is that it seems that FM can see the old joboptions, but Distiller 7 can only see the ones that reside in its own default folder. In case Dov Isaacs isn't online today to promptly chastise you, permit me. ;-) Multiple/mixed Acrobat installations are a very, very bad idea. Dov has warned countless times that it can lead to unpredictable and unstable behavior. When you installed FM, you should not have installed Distiller 7 (assuming you'd prefer the full Acrobat 6 to just Distiller 7). Now, you need to completely uninstall both Acrobat 6 and Distiller 7. After that's done, either reinstall one, but not the other, or wait until you get Acrobat 8, and then install it. Do *not* install Acrobat 8 without removing Acrobat 6 and Distiller 7 first. I believe the .joboptions files have moved around some in recent releases, but I don't recall the details. Google techwr-l.com for joboptions locations or something like that. I seem to recall having to copy my old ones somewhere after moving to Acro 7. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Updating and saving an entire book
Just a note: Even after making the suggested changes the warning will still show, but only the first time for each type of undo. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson On 6/4/07, Kwiatkowski Richard (ST-VS/DOC-La) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jennifer, We recently upgraded to FM 7.2 and encountered the same problem. To turn it off, select the File menu, choose Preferences, then choose General. In the middle of the dialog box there is a check box for turning the Show Warnings While Clearing History option on or off. Hope this helps. With kind regards | mit freundlichen Grüßen | Met vriendelijke groeten Richard Kwiatkowski Richard Kwiatkowski Bosch Security Systems, Inc. Senior Technical Writer (ST-VS/DOC-La3) 850 Greenfield Road - Lancaster PA 17601 - USA Telephone: +1 (717) 735-6538 Fax: +1 (866) 429-5380 Mobile: +1 (862) 377-9136 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boschsecuritysystems.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Randel Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 12:57 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Updating and saving an entire book Hi everyone, I recently upgraded to FM 7.2 (WinXP) and I'm finding the new Cannot be undone... OK to continue? dialog box greatly annoying. It's especially annoying when I'm updating a book with 40 files because it appears between each file as it saves. Aaargh! Is there any way to stop this dialog box from appearing when I save or update documents? Thanks in advance, Jennifer Randel Kern High School District Data Processing Technical Writer Wealth is the ability to fully experience life. -- Thoreau ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/richard.kwiatkowski%40us.bosch.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?
I am about to undertake the task of preparing special issue NT plus based on a new translation (Icelandic) of the Bible that is ready to be printed. I will only be getting the files in PDF (hopefully no ligatures) as the last changes were made at the layout company, in Denmark, I think. Maybe I will be able to get them in HTML as the local publishing company is backward engineering the the files from PDF. Not that I did not tell them about XML or FrameMaker. I did so two years ago. Anyway, I think this project is a typical structured thing, and as I have very little time (in my time off), I wonder whether someone has, or knows of, a suitable EDD for such a task. I think I have seen a Bible DTD for XML, but not an EDD. There are XML Schemas and several special markup languages for this too (USFM, USFX, OSIS, etc.), because of the limitations of DTD (and EDD). However, I think this could be done, especially if quotation marks are just typed and not relying on an element or an attribute (maybe attributes may be used for opening and closing quotes, etc.). Am I over my head in this? Please respond on or off the list. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Iceland ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Need Icelandic Hyphenation (and dict)
FrameMaker seems rather limited in offering language support. Icelandic hyphenation rules are basically: 1. Between compound words (auto-matic) 2. Before a vowel. But both rules are subjects to exceptions, but I think that all in all Icelandic hyphenation rules are rather simple. My question is: Is it a complex job to set up hyphenation rules for foreign languages in general? Of course the basic files are binary, and we can make our own exception/addition files, but these have shown themselves to be less than reliable as a lot of postings through the years have shown. I have tried to search the Adobe knowledge base etc, but find nothing to shed a light on this. All my gurus are on this list, so here I post my query. :-) Thanks beforehand, Bodv-ar Bjorg-vins-son ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Does anyone have an EDD for the Bible?
I think you must all be hinting that the final EDD will be rock solid! ;-) Actually the last joke about the tablets fits in Icelandic too. I may even have heard it with God as the adviser -- which also gives a deeper meaning to the joke. -- Is it Friday already? Bodvar On 6/20/07, Lin Surasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ugh ;-) I apologize to every last one of you (except you, Peter) for having started this. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Peter Gold Sent: Wed 6/20/2007 3:37 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Does anyone have an EDD for the Bible? I tried to confirm the link to the trailer for this film, before posting it, but it seems that the one at IMDB/New York Times fails. It's worth hunting for other links, if you want to get the scene from Moses' mouth. BTW, you may not be aware that Moses wanted to be a doctor, because the experience of dropping the one tablet left him very upset he almost turned back to Egypt. However, his close advisers told him not to worry, take these two tablets and call us in the morning! -- Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lin.surasky%40retalix.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: missing fonts
If you save the file as MIF and search that, then you got a flat file (Document, Master Ref. pages all in one), easy to search -- and replace -- in a fairly good text editor (TextPad, ConText, jEdit, etc.). Bodvar On 6/18/07, Rene Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FM Console does show the font name(s) that are missing, but I haven't seen it specify where the font is used that's missing. For that piece of Jon's question, I'd use Find, Character Format, type in the missing font family, and leave everything else as-is. This doesn't see the reference or master pages, though, so if you can't find it this way, do the search again while viewing ref pages and again while viewing master pages for each file in the book. That said, it seems like out there somewhere I saw mention of a plugin that could search reference and master pages for various format stuff, but I can't remember if it just generated a list of what's used where (maybe hyperlinked) or exactly how it functioned. I don't even remember which plugin it was or who developed it. (Fine lot of help I am.) But, maybe someone else on the list knows and would respond. :-) Rene Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have a FM console program running, it'll show up in there. If you don't, open Preferences, turn on Show Translation Errors, and reboot FM Under Windows, FM would use the system settings for font locations. Art On 6/18/07, Jon Harvey wrote: Hi all, I'm getting a missing font error in various docs. Is there a way to determine in a large FM doc what fonts are missing and where FM is looking for them? I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows. I'd like to find the culprit text and solve the problem. Jon Harvey Manager, Desktop Documentation CambridgeSoft Corporation 100 CambridgePark Drive Cambridge, MA 02140 (617) 588-9354 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Table formatting
I guess you are using the first cell for graphics, am I right? I have had some luck with using a sidehead paragraph tag for this purpose with font size and line space set to a minimum and the space below to a minus equaling the line size. The paragraph will call a certain graphic in the reference pages. You can also set the next paragraph format to the note paragraph tag you want. Then you can have the note para tag with all the settings needed: line above, line below, NOTE as numbering, etc. I find this way easier to use than the table. Especially when you want different border formatting for each cell. HTH, Bodvar On 7/9/07, Eli Har-Even [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to create a table format for a note, with one row and two columns. I want a line above and below the second column. I've only managed to do this using custom ruling and shading, which I don't want to use because custom ruling can't be stored as part of the table format. Any ideas? [FrameMaker version 6.0p405] Eli. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Save book as postcript
I did not know that. Thank you for enlightening me. :-) Bodvar On 7/19/07, Peter Gold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Bodvar: What your suggestion is missing is the fact that DoBatch provides command-line automation. DoBatch is a Windows version of the fmbatch FM-UNIX utility. Although the OP didn't explicitly say it, I believe the goal is to run a multiple-step process with DoBatch, and end up printing the book to .ps, or perhaps simply print a collection of books to .ps under a command-line script. I know that fmbatch has a parameter that can specify a printfile - an FM file that's set to print to a particular printer. I don't know if DoBatch or DZBatcher from DataZone (also free) can do this; I'm not sure if an FM file can remember a printer specification, to make this work. You can read fmbatch documentation in FM user manual or online help, and of course, you can find DoBatch documentation at the cudspan location. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On 7/19/07, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not familiar with DoBatch, but why not simply print book to file? Setting Adobe PDF (Distiller) or any other PostScript printer driver as the default printer or the printer used at the time, and the print job option to one file, should gilve you a beautiful PS file. This is a printing process after all. Am I missing something here? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Problems with the trial version of FrameMaker 8
I do not have that problem. When I start FM 8 trial i get a popup that my trial period has expired! Adobe is looking into the problem. Bodvar On 8/1/07, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning (EDT) all, We have tried several times this morning to download the trial version of Frame 8 from the Adobe site. Each time we met with the same end result; the file fails to decompress. I'm just wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem before I go blame our network firewall. Were all on P4 machines running XP Pro (2.6+ GHz, 1 GB RAM, 80+ GB HD). Thank you. Berny Gagne Lead Writer Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd. Bolton, Ontario, Canada ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
How to delete trailing spaces in one go?
I thought I had seen in this list a discussion on how to remove trailing spaces that so often come with Word documents that are either imported into FrameMaker or opened by FrameMaker (by conversion). I have a plethora of these and the closest I have got is to: Find: Text: . \p Replace: Text: .\p but this results in the new \p taking on the paragraph attributes of the next line, removing extra vertical space or changing to superscript if next line starts on a superscript. Was there another solution to this? Thanks, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Iceland ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: How to delete trailing spaces in one go?
Sorry, Kenneth,
I get the same results. Even if I add a \P to the change, I then get a
new line and both pilchrows take the character formatting of the
first character in the following line.
Regrettably I cannot check this in FM 8 as it won't allow me to open
it (in trial). I hope they have changed this erraneous behaviour in 8.
There were several annoyances still in the Beta 2, and I don't think
they took the time to finish correcting these.
Bodvar
On 8/3/07, Kenneth C. Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:
but this results in the new \p taking on the paragraph attributes of
the next line, removing extra vertical space or changing to
superscript if next line starts on a superscript.
I've had great success getting around this exact same problem in
Indesign (haven't tested it yet in Frame) by doing the Find/Replace in
two steps. First, find space return and replace with return {delete}
return. Then find {delete} return and replace with nothing.
{delete} can be anything you want it to, as long as it's unique.
Let me know if this works in FM.
Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com
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Re: How to delete trailing spaces in one go?
On 8/3/07, Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: I thought I had seen in this list a discussion on how to remove trailing spaces that so often come with Word documents that are either imported into FrameMaker or opened by FrameMaker (by conversion). I have a plethora of these and the closest I have got is to: Find: Text: . \p Replace: Text: .\p but this results in the new \p taking on the paragraph attributes of the next line, removing extra vertical space or changing to superscript if next line starts on a superscript. I vaguely remember that discussion, but can't find it. I recall being tempted to object to the idea then, so I think I'll do so now. I'm in the habit of always typing a space at the end of a paragraph, and I can't imagine why one would need to remove them. In fact, there are at least two situations in FM where you really should have a space before the end of the paragraph: -- When text adjacent to the pilcrow (end of paragraph symbol) has a character format applied to it, the format change affects the paragraph itself, marking it as an override. A space between the text and the pilcrow avoids this override (as long as the char format isn't applied to the space, of course). -- When a text inset sits adjacent to the pilcrow, an update of the text inset causes the paragraph in which it sits to take on the format of the first paragraph in the text inset. A space (or anything else) between the text inset and the pilcrow avoids this problem. Both arguments above are valid seen from the point of FM behaviour. Besides that, if you get in the habit of always ending a sentence with a space, then merging two paragraphs doesn't cause two sentences to collide. OK, this one too. What am I missing? Why do people not want those spaces? When you get a space at the end of a line the line will tend to give the trailing space an unnecessary space. This I have often seen on the screen, but I have not exactly done a test on it in printing, but many experienced people on the list and others warn against using the trailing space. Nowadays, bytes are pretty cheap, and your thumbs can use the exercise. :-) Richard Lol! Bodvar ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Need 8 Install Help
Same problem with me, also reported to the Team. No resolution yet. :-( Cost me two days of reworking into FM 7.2. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson On 8/1/07, Randall Larson-Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was a beta 8 tester. Beta 8 expired yesterday. I downloaded the trial 8 copy and installed. All went fine. Started program, get splash screen for trial and since I have not gotten a code yet, I click Continue Trial and then Next. I get a small dialog box that says Product license has expired. Greatso I call India for support and they tell me to delete all temp files. I do that, plus all the chk files. Still won't open past dialog box. I tried setting my PC's clock, but then I get the same screen wanting a code, which I do not have. Anyone out there know the fix for this? Of course, I need to work with Frame two hours ago! -- Randall Larson-Maynard Senior Editor/Curriculum Coordinator UC Davis, Office of the University Registrar RLLarsonMaynard(at)UCDavis.edu 530.752.6141 Fax 530.752.0329 Google Talk, AIM, Yahoo! IM: rlarsonmaynard Registrar Editor SmartSite: https://sakai2.ucdavis.edu:8443/portal https://sakai2.ucdavis.edu:8443/portal -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Need 8 Install Help
Thanks for the notion here, Dov. I _think_ I did. Had to, really, because of rather narrow space on my HDs. But I did not uninstall until after downloading and maybe also unzipping the Trial version. There were no explanations in the Beta testers site that I recall telling about the proper procedure. Would that be enough a reason? You can say that Beta testers are paying extra here in a way. ;-) RANT_MODE I would buy the thing off the Adobe website if they only let me -- in a fair trade. I don't like being laughing stock of Adobe Finance Specialists (or whatever they are) who have set up their feudal system so that we, Europeans have to pay much more for the same software than Americans. Why? There is no special Icelandic version. It seems we, Icelanders, are supposed to buy off the Danish website where everything is in Danish and everything is expensive! Someone should file a complaint to the Human Rights Board. /RANT_MODE There _will_ come a day when I will buy this at the right price! ;-) Puff! Bodvar On 8/7/07, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you fully uninstall the beta test copy FIRST before trying to install the trial version? If not, you are probably hosed until you get a license. - Dov -Original Message- From: Randall Larson-Maynard Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:03 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Need 8 Install Help I was a beta 8 tester. Beta 8 expired yesterday. I downloaded the trial 8 copy and installed. All went fine. Started program, get splash screen for trial and since I have not gotten a code yet, I click Continue Trial and then Next. I get a small dialog box that says Product license has expired. Greatso I call India for support and they tell me to delete all temp files. I do that, plus all the chk files. Still won't open past dialog box. I tried setting my PC's clock, but then I get the same screen wanting a code, which I do not have. Anyone out there know the fix for this? Of course, I need to work with Frame two hours ago! -- Randall Larson-Maynard Senior Editor/Curriculum Coordinator UC Davis, Office of the University Registrar RLLarsonMaynard(at)UCDavis.edu 530.752.6141 Fax 530.752.0329 Google Talk, AIM, Yahoo! IM: rlarsonmaynard Registrar Editor SmartSite: https://sakai2.ucdavis.edu:8443/portal https://sakai2.ucdavis.edu:8443/portal ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Heading with autonumber and square bullet
One way of messing with this would be to add a run-in heading with Dingbats before the other headings. Only allow for it when setting the indents and tabulature of the headings. Bodvar On 8/9/07, Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 17:14 +0200 9/8/07, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: If you don't want to mess with character codes, set your desired bullet font as a character tag (for example, Dingbats, Wingdings) and use the character tag in the Automnumber field. This way you can merely use the letter that corresponds with the character in the bullet font that you want. For example, the letter 'N' equates with the large square in Zapf Dingbats. Won't that set the autonumber in Dingbats too, producing rubbish? -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8
Thanks, Sarah, Lot of things here to support my suspicion that Adobe should have waited a couple of months with this release. We will probably see more than a couple of patches soon. This registering thing: does it mean that we no longer can install the same FM on two computers like the license used to be (one at work or main computer and one at home or on a laptop, IIRC)? Bodvar On 8/9/07, Sarah O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've posted an overview of FrameMaker 8 with my impressions here: http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/2007/08/framemaker-8-first-impressions.html Please feel free to comment on the blog or in this forum. The review itself is too long to post to the list in its entirety (and it has screen shots and PDF links). Regards, Sarah O'Keefe -- ### Sarah O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scriptorium Publishing Services, Inc. http://www.scriptorium.com Blog: http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Text lines disappearing below bottom of main text flow frame
I think this is an oldie, but I cannot find the thread(s) that dealt with it. And it is Monday and everyone is fresh and rested after a nice weekend. :-) I have on several accounts in the past few weeks come across one of the weird behaviours of FrameMaker (not so uncommon in other frame based applications) that one or two text lines hide between the bottom of the page frame (overflow) instead of flowing to the next page. A couple of weeks ago I noted a solid line in the bottom of a page frame and saw that a line was not flowing over to the next page but kept hidden, even if I printed the file. Since this has happened on several occasions, and I just cannot find out how to hunt these down in any other way than to look at the bottom of every page (and these will be some 800). My environment is M$ WinXP, FM 7.2 (structured), and all pages are two-column setup. Another and similar unacceptable behaviour is that sometimes a line of text overflows to the line above a footnote. I found out that was even harder to deal with. The way I dealt with the page overflow was to insert one or two hard breaks, forcing the lines over and then deleting the hard brakes. That seemed to work for the page overflow, but not for the text lines overrunning the footnotes. Any help to do away with these bastards in an orderly manner (other than to wait for FrameMaker 9.6) will be highly appreciated. Price: all the virtual pizza you can eat and whatever virtual you might want to drink! (Even on a Monday!). ;-) TBF Bodvar Bjorgvinsson ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Text lines disappearing below bottom of main text flow frame
I found a posting since 2004 about the same thing. This happened when columns were set to balanced. Same here. There was never a reply to this posting. Is this a problem that others have experienced? Bodvar On 8/27/07, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is an oldie, but I cannot find the thread(s) that dealt with it. And it is Monday and everyone is fresh and rested after a nice weekend. :-) I have on several accounts in the past few weeks come across one of the weird behaviours of FrameMaker (not so uncommon in other frame based applications) that one or two text lines hide between the bottom of the page frame (overflow) instead of flowing to the next page. A couple of weeks ago I noted a solid line in the bottom of a page frame and saw that a line was not flowing over to the next page but kept hidden, even if I printed the file. Since this has happened on several occasions, and I just cannot find out how to hunt these down in any other way than to look at the bottom of every page (and these will be some 800). My environment is M$ WinXP, FM 7.2 (structured), and all pages are two-column setup. Another and similar unacceptable behaviour is that sometimes a line of text overflows to the line above a footnote. I found out that was even harder to deal with. The way I dealt with the page overflow was to insert one or two hard breaks, forcing the lines over and then deleting the hard brakes. That seemed to work for the page overflow, but not for the text lines overrunning the footnotes. Any help to do away with these bastards in an orderly manner (other than to wait for FrameMaker 9.6) will be highly appreciated. Price: all the virtual pizza you can eat and whatever virtual you might want to drink! (Even on a Monday!). ;-) TBF Bodvar Bjorgvinsson ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Text lines disappearing below bottom of main text flow frame
Lester, Thank you for the suggestions. This is my first two column big job so far. I have not started feathering yet, but I found later today a suggestion lurking somewhere in my old posts (when ordered to delete out of my mail box) a suggestion that changing the widow/orphan to three lines. They are set to two lines. I cannot see that this behavior has any connection to keep with next/previous unless there are some headings etc. farther down the file that stopped the flowing. I did not check that. I will certainly bear that in mind now when I will be going over this again. As to rehyphenation, this happened when going through hyphenation by hand. Language being Icelandic, which is unsupported by Adobe, I had run the Dashes Pro Demo on the RTF files which were then imported to to FrameMaker 7.2. The Dashes Pro proved to be very inaccurate in hyphenation, the best thing was to do a find \- and either delete or keep and some times even add new. And to complicate things further, the eth and thorn and even an accented y (which are all parts of the extended ASCII) seem to FrameMaker just as some space character when it comes to hyphenating. Thanks again and God bless, Bodvar On 8/28/07, Lester C. Smalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bodvar - I haven't run into the specific problem you describe, and I can't offer much advice as I work with single-column documents almost exclusively, although they do use side heads. As you are working in a structured document, there may be issues with element formatting such as keep with next/previous properties, and widow/orphan settings. And because settings are inherited, it may be specified on a higher element in the structure before you actually see a problem. Have you checked and perhaps adjusted the Feathering property (found in Format Page Layout Line Layout) of the text flow? Are your footnotes set to be In Column or Across All Columns? (I don't know if this makes a difference or not) You can try to re-hyphenate the document. Odd as it seems, this often clears up some unusual formatting issues that otherwise don't seem solvable. Good luck! On Tuesday, August 28, 2007 09:06 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: | I found a posting since 2004 about the same thing. This happened when | columns were set to balanced. Same here. There was never a reply to | this posting. | | Is this a problem that others have experienced? | | Bodvar | | On 8/27/07, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | I think this is an oldie, but I cannot find the thread(s) that dealt | with it. And it is Monday and everyone is fresh and rested after a | nice weekend. :-) | | I have on several accounts in the past few weeks come across one of | the weird behaviours of FrameMaker (not so uncommon in other frame | based applications) that one or two text lines hide between the bottom | of the page frame (overflow) instead of flowing to the next page. | | A couple of weeks ago I noted a solid line in the bottom of a page | frame and saw that a line was not flowing over to the next page but | kept hidden, even if I printed the file. Since this has happened on | several occasions, and I just cannot find out how to hunt these down | in any other way than to look at the bottom of every page (and these | will be some 800). | | My environment is M$ WinXP, FM 7.2 (structured), and all pages are | two-column setup. | | Another and similar unacceptable behaviour is that sometimes a line | of text overflows to the line above a footnote. I found out that was | even harder to deal with. | | The way I dealt with the page overflow was to insert one or two hard | breaks, forcing the lines over and then deleting the hard brakes. That | seemed to work for the page overflow, but not for the text lines | overrunning the footnotes. | | Any help to do away with these bastards in an orderly manner (other | than to wait for FrameMaker 9.6) will be highly appreciated. | | Price: all the virtual pizza you can eat and whatever virtual you | might want to drink! (Even on a Monday!). ;-) | | TBF | | Bodvar Bjorgvinsson - Lester --- Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com --- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT Re: Text lines disappearing below bottom of main text flow frame
Thank you for the links, Steve. Very informative. I checked this Eth the same way in Wikipedia eth (letter) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eth_%28letter%29) and that one displayed correctly with me (automatic language settings in FireFox). I especially ejoyed reading the link in the page http://briem.ismennt.is/2/2.1a/2.1.1.thorn.and.eth.htm referring to the sort order of Thorn: http://www.evertype.com/standards/wynnyogh/thorn.html. It is almost a full treatise about the western alphabets through the history. I had forgotten about the sort order being agreed on in 1994. Bodvar On 8/29/07, Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 20:51 + 28/8/07, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: And to complicate things further, the eth and thorn and even an accented y (which are all parts of the extended ASCII) seem to FrameMaker just as some space character when it comes to hyphenating. 'Eth' and 'thorn' are letter names in Icelandic? That's interesting: they are in Anglo-Saxon too. For anyone interested: http://briem.ismennt.is/2/2.1a/2.1.1.thorn.and.eth.htm Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9E Why mention the Wikipedia entry? Well, apart from being informative, it uses the thorn - apparently a real thorn - in its URL. Shows up nicely here on a Mac ;-) Sadly, Wikipedia's URL for eth just uses 'eth'. -- Steve [irrelevant fact hound] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Help with footnote numbers
Tina, I will not repeat what others have already suggested, but in addition to that, you always have the option of applying a Character Format (Tag) to your footnotes or parts of them. Bodvar On 8/27/07, Tina Ricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for help with footnote reference numbers. The footnote reference is the superscript number that appears in the main text. The footnote body is the text that appears at the bottom of the page. I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format Document Footnote Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference (in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. I'd like to make just the reference number smaller, but I can't find a setting for that separate from the footnote text. If I try to highlight just the reference number to apply a character style to it, Frame selects the footnote body also. and character styles don't seem to have any effect. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Tina tina ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 503-531-3233 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: an apology (LinkedIn fiasco)
I, for one, was glad to accept. Now the rest of the week is ruined! :-( But it is Friday, so ... ;-) Bodvar On 8/31/07, Bill Swallow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Many of you whom I've conversed with through this list have been sent invites for LinkedIn. This was not intentional. Somehow instead of connecting with a few choice Gmail contacts, LinkedIn sent an invite to everyone in my Gmail address book. (That's a lot of people!) For more information: http://techcommdood.blogspot.com/2007/08/oops-now-i-feel-silly.html http://techcommdood.blogspot.com/2007/08/linkedin-fiasco.html Again, I deeply apologize for the cold contact. It wasn't intentional. Bill -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager http://techcommdood.blogspot.com avid homebrewer and proud beer snob I see your OOO message and raise you a clue. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing PPT slideshows
PP does not seem to behave well when it comes to printing. My solution would be to print to file full width (Letter/A4 - sadly printing will not (Office 2003) print landscape) and then crop top and bottom all pages. After that FM should be able to import by ref. Any other ideas would be interesting to hear. Bodvar On 9/4/07, Madeleine Reardon Dimond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I work for a courseware department that makes PowerPoint slideshows and then imports the slides to Framemaker as OLE links to make their printed books. This process makes huge, unstable files that take forever to update. When I asked why they didn't use Frame's Import by Reference feature, I was told that FrameMaker will import only the first slide of a show. So although the Chapter 3 PowerPoint slideshow may have 20 slides, only Slide 1 will import by reference. Being used to importing pdfs one page at a time, I can't help thinking there must be a way to do the same thing with PowerPoint shows. Does anybody know what it might be? Thanks, Madeleine Reardon Dimond Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing PPT slideshows
Of course I had to forget to mention distilling before cropping! So I am in agreement with Steve. Except, don't you need to crop the pdfs? Bodvar On 9/6/07, Steve Cavanaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless the PP slides contain active elements, I would think printing the PP slides to PDF and importing those by reference would be considerably better. Perhaps there is a reason not to do this, but it sure works great here. Steve Cavanaugh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:33 AM To: Madeleine Reardon Dimond Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Importing PPT slideshows PP does not seem to behave well when it comes to printing. My solution would be to print to file full width (Letter/A4 - sadly printing will not (Office 2003) print landscape) and then crop top and bottom all pages. After that FM should be able to import by ref. Any other ideas would be interesting to hear. Bodvar On 9/4/07, Madeleine Reardon Dimond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I work for a courseware department that makes PowerPoint slideshows and then imports the slides to Framemaker as OLE links to make their printed books. This process makes huge, unstable files that take forever to update. When I asked why they didn't use Frame's Import by Reference feature, I was told that FrameMaker will import only the first slide of a show. So although the Chapter 3 PowerPoint slideshow may have 20 slides, only Slide 1 will import by reference. Being used to importing pdfs one page at a time, I can't help thinking there must be a way to do the same thing with PowerPoint shows. Does anybody know what it might be? Thanks, Madeleine Reardon Dimond __ __ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/scavanaugh%40nat-sea ttle.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Problems with PDF
This may be the fact for Frame 7.2/Distiller7 to. I have on several occasions in the last year or so complained about FrameMaker 7.2 crashing when distilling a book file (print book to file and then distill). Recently I tried setting the Tagged PDF on, and setting tags for only some three elements (structured), and now the file distilled without any problems. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Iceland On 9/10/07, Shlomo Perets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tina, You wrote: I'm using Frame 8. I have a book (28 chapters) with a TOC. I'm creating a PDF using the File Save As PDF command. ... If I put the TOC in the book, I get this message in the log file where the TOC starts: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: Rect ]%% ... One workaround for this FM8.0-specific bug is to turn Tagged PDF on; see http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html#FM80 for more details. Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker FrameMaker/Acrobat training consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
Great news! This seems to me to be the official stamp of Adobe finally acknowledging FrameMaker for what it is first and foremost: the best all-over technical publication workhorse. IMHO it only remains for Adobe to realise that FM is also one of the best tools for regular book layout, except for one factor: Foreign language support is very little. Only a few languages are really supported. So therefore the vast majority are using Quark and InDesign. But congratulations, Adobe; congratulatios Framedome. Bodvar On 9/25/07, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ( BW)(CA-ADOBE-SYSTEMS)(ADBE) Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite Integrated Toolkit for Technical Writers Includes Major Upgrade to RoboHelp Business Editors/Technology Writers SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 25, 2007--Adobe Systems Incorporated (Nasdaq:ADBE) today announced Adobe(R) Technical Communication Suite software, a first-of-a-kind, integrated solution for authoring, managing, and publishing technical information and training content across multiple formats and languages. Using the Adobe Technical Communication Suite, technical communicators and instructional designers can create powerful documentation, eLearning courses and user assistance programs containing both traditional text and graphics along with rich media, including Adobe Flash(R) Player compatible video and 3D. The suite includes Adobe RoboHelp(R) 7, a major upgrade to Adobe's help system and knowledge base authoring tool, as well as Adobe FrameMaker(R) 8, Adobe Captivate(R) 3 and Adobe Acrobat(R) 3D Version 8 software. Product and workflow integration and support for rich media formats -- including Adobe Flash Player compatible video, SWF, MP3 and AVI files as well as industry standards, such as Adobe Portable Document Format (PDF), XML and Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA) -- empower authors to deliver compelling information, save time and reduce discrepancies in content. Adobe's leadership in the industry puts us in a unique position to deliver a completely new product, targeted squarely at technical communicators and instructional designers, said Naresh Gupta, senior vice president, Print and Classic Publishing at Adobe. The Technical Communication Suite provides all the tools publishers need to take technical communication to the next level with dramatically improved workflows and rich features like video, animations, 3D and Unicode support. Inside the Technical Communication Suite Introduced today, RoboHelp 7 delivers major new features enabling technical communicators to author, manage, and publish engaging content for embedded help systems and standalone knowledge bases. For the first time, technical communicators can easily update their online help systems with information authored in FrameMaker 8, without the need to re-import files for each update. The new release also adds Unicode support for publishing in multiple languages. Automated wizards and topic templates allow users to incorporate standard and advanced help features, including table of contents, indexes, glossaries, graphics, sound, video, simulations and navigation. Authors can generate multiple tables of content and apply conditional tags, index items, folders, and tailor output for specific purposes and formats, such as HTML, Adobe PDF and FlashHelp(R). RoboHelp 7 also supports a Multiple Document Interface (MDI) allowing easy copy and paste editing across topics. Additional new features include an updated and customizable user interface, enhancements to the HTML editor, and improved navigation and search features. For more details please visit www.adobe.com/products/robohelp. Launched in July 2007, FrameMaker 8 is a complete authoring and publishing tool that combines the simplicity of word processing with the power of XML. The new version adds support for 3D, DITA, XML and Unicode. With the integration of Adobe Captivate 3 technical authors can deliver high-impact information with quizzes, visual product demonstrations and simulations - all without the need for multimedia development skills. Acrobat 3D version 8 delivers a complete and more secure way to collaborate with extended teams on 3D designs via Adobe PDF documents. Technical communicators can easily manipulate and incorporate interactive 3D models without having to purchase CAD software. Pricing and Availability Adobe Technical Communication Suite will be available for Microsoft(R) Windows Vista(TM) and Windows(R) XP and is expected to ship by the end of October 2007 at an estimated price of US$1,599. Users can upgrade for an estimated price of US$999 if they have prior versions of Adobe Captivate, FrameMaker or RoboHelp. To learn more about the suite please visit www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite. RoboHelp 7 and RoboHelp Server 7 will be available for Microsoft Windows
Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
Does not work either for me, but this one does: http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/?promoid=BJXOA Bodvar On 9/25/07, Mark Southee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one should work. http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/ Cheers Mark Mark Southee Documentation Manager SurfControl Direct: +44 01260 296139 Fax: +44 01260 296201 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.surfcontrol.com SurfControl - Enterprise Threat Protection -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] m] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: 25 September 2007 15:56 To: Framers Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite Are you sure it's still available. I can't find this on Adobe's site, and the link below is no longer available. To learn more about the suite please visit www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Dov Isaacs wrote: ( BW)(CA-ADOBE-SYSTEMS)(ADBE) Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite Integrated Toolkit for Technical Writers Includes Major Upgrade to RoboHelp Business Editors/Technology Writers SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 25, 2007--Adobe Systems Incorporated (Nasdaq:ADBE) today announced Adobe(R) Technical Communication Suite software, a first-of-a-kind, integrated solution for authoring, managing, and publishing technical information and training content across multiple formats and languages. Using the Adobe Technical Communication Suite, technical communicators and instructional designers can create powerful documentation, eLearning courses and user assistance programs containing both traditional text and graphics along with rich media, including Adobe Flash(R) Player compatible video and 3D. The suite includes Adobe RoboHelp(R) 7, a major upgrade to Adobe's help system and knowledge base authoring tool, as well as Adobe FrameMaker(R) 8, Adobe Captivate(R) 3 and Adobe Acrobat(R) 3D Version 8 software. Product and workflow integration and support for rich media formats -- including Adobe Flash Player compatible video, SWF, MP3 and AVI files as well as industry standards, such as Adobe Portable Document Format (PDF), XML and Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA) -- empower authors to deliver compelling information, save time and reduce discrepancies in content. Adobe's leadership in the industry puts us in a unique position to deliver a completely new product, targeted squarely at technical communicators and instructional designers, said Naresh Gupta, senior vice president, Print and Classic Publishing at Adobe. The Technical Communication Suite provides all the tools publishers need to take technical communication to the next level with dramatically improved workflows and rich features like video, animations, 3D and Unicode support. Inside the Technical Communication Suite Introduced today, RoboHelp 7 delivers major new features enabling technical communicators to author, manage, and publish engaging content for embedded help systems and standalone knowledge bases. For the first time, technical communicators can easily update their online help systems with information authored in FrameMaker 8, without the need to re-import files for each update. The new release also adds Unicode support for publishing in multiple languages. Automated wizards and topic templates allow users to incorporate standard and advanced help features, including table of contents, indexes, glossaries, graphics, sound, video, simulations and navigation. Authors can generate multiple tables of content and apply conditional tags, index items, folders, and tailor output for specific purposes and formats, such as HTML, Adobe PDF and FlashHelp(R). RoboHelp 7 also supports a Multiple Document Interface (MDI) allowing easy copy and paste editing across topics. Additional new features include an updated and customizable user interface, enhancements to the HTML editor, and improved navigation and search features. For more details please visit www.adobe.com/products/robohelp. Launched in July 2007, FrameMaker 8 is a complete authoring and publishing tool that combines the simplicity of word processing with the power of XML. The new version adds support for 3D, DITA, XML and Unicode. With the integration of Adobe Captivate 3 technical authors can deliver high-impact information with quizzes, visual product demonstrations and simulations - all without the need for multimedia development skills. Acrobat 3D version 8 delivers a complete and more secure way to collaborate with extended teams on 3D designs via Adobe PDF documents. Technical communicators can easily manipulate and incorporate interactive 3D models without having to purchase CAD software. Pricing and Availability Adobe Technical Communication Suite will be
Re: Hyphenation in Swedish FM 8
I believe there is no real support for Swedish, is it (I forget, as I have not used FM8 since Beta testing)? Did you try to set the language to None for the paragraph tags? After that you can manually hyphenate. I tried running Dashes Pro on rtf files and it worked except that their support for Icelandic was not acceptable. You can try the Swedish version, maybe that one is OK. Then import the rtf into FM8 (with all paragraph tags set to language None), and it should be OK. Unless, of course, that FM8 should not recognize a-umlaut as a regular character and mistake it for some kind of space or punctuation as it does with eth and thorn. What Dashes Pro does is basically to insert soft hyphens everywhere allowed. Not nice to have all the extra characters, but an OK workaround -- if it plays by the rules of the language. There is a 30 day full trial on it. Really funny that Adobe does not support more languages in FM which originates with the UNIX environment where you have both aspell and ispell to work from. Both have excellent support for most languages. Both have been GPL (General Public License) for a long time, but maybe Adobe thinks that is stooping too low? Also Adobe have much better language support in InDesign, but then, Adobe and Adobe, are they really the same company after all? Often it really does seem they are not. Bodvar On 10/1/07, Rolf Clausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have discovered that hyphenation in Swedish does not work in FrameMaker 8.0. Words are randomly hyphenated and all settings in Paragraph Designer, Advanced tab, like Shortest prefix/suffix are ignored. Any work-around or other settings to do? /Rolf -- Rolf Clausen Mallverkstan AB E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Slöjdgatan 2Phone: +46 46 23 52 50 SE-227 36 LUND Fax: +46 46 23 52 51 SWEDEN http://www.mallverkstan.se -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Bad Autonumbers
I am not quite sure I understand what you are trying to do. It seems to me you are mixing methods. On one hand you are using an autonumbering of a paragraph and on the other hand you want to control it with a system variable for page numbering. That, to my knowledge, cannot be done. This is one of the things we are missing in FM: the ability to assign leading zeros to the numbering. If you add leading zeros like text in the autonumbering or before a page number the number of zeros will always be the same. One workaround would be to assign different set of master pages to each given number of leading zeros (as I think I recall there was a discussion about earlier this year). Whether you would have to manually assign these master pages or you could make a [fake?] paragraph or element that you put on the page starting the next level (from 0009 to 0010 -- using the ref page master page assignment system), would depend on your set of files. There might be a possible solution doing this automatically with FrameScript. Bodvar On 10/3/07, Randall C. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Listers: Unstructured Frame 7.2 on XP V2002 SP2: I've got 400 files in the book. I cannot get a work package number autonumber to work properly in the files at the beginning of the book. P:000n+ just returns 0001. I've gone into the document menu on both the book and individual files and set the Page numbering feature to Continue. Updated book numerous times. Re-imported formats. When I add a hard number to the autonumber in an individual file, it immediately responds with the correct value on the page, so apparently the tag and function are working properly. - What will fix these random bad autonumbers? - If I hardwire the bad autonumber (change it from P:000n+ to P:0008, for example) with the following n+ numbers pick up normally (P:0009, etc., in this example)? This is crazy. It is just an autonumber. I've been using FM for 13 years and I know it is not suppose to be this hard to troubleshoot an autonumber problem. Except for digesting 400 files in the book, it should work like a champ, but it is not. What stupid thing am I doing wrong? TIA, Randall C. Reed Senior Technical Writer Force Protection Industries, Inc. This material contains confidential and proprietary information of Force Protection, Inc. and its subsidiaries. Copying this material or disclosing such information to others without the Company's prior consent is prohibited. This material may also contain technical data relating to a Defense Article within the meaning of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (22 CFR Part 120). The transfer or disclosure of this information to any non-U.S. person or company without any required export license approved by the United States Department of State, Directorate of Defense Trade Controls may be prohibited under federal law. Force Protection Industries, Inc. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: footnote problem
My walnut is telling me that a footnote is a footnote and things that do not fit within the majority of a page as allowed in FrameMaker must be something else, like an end note or just as an insert (not in the FM way) that is just shown indented and/or in smaller type in direct continuation of the subject section/part/paragraph. I understand the problem, although I have not had to deal with it (other than when the footnote reference is too low on the page for the footnote itself to fit). This problem has come up several times on the list IIRC. I have no other solution than this and, then maybe to cross-reference it. Is this something that can be overridden by a FrameScript? I guess not. Adobe should look into this along with some other quirks, like the feathering problem when you have an anchored frame on a page, and/or balanced columns. Bodvar On 10/18/07, Graeme R Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tina wrote: If I take out the now disappeared long footnote (by deleting the footnote reference in the text), all the other footnotes go back where they belong Are you sure about this? If there are lots of long notes in the doc it's very likely that FM has pushed some of them in their entirety onto the following page. FrameMaker can't split long notes across pages correctly. Useless behavior which, as Rick said, has been with us since FM 4 (FM 3 in my experience, and no doubt since FM 1 -- the footnote facility was programmed to do exactly what it does, by people who didn't understand how footnotes are supposed to behave). So you have to break them manually, using text boxes inside anchored frames for the part of the note that won't fit on the page with the reference number in the main text. Or else make them all endnotes by the ugly method described in the user manual, which I once automated in Applescript. But endnotes are so reader-hostile that it's worth slogging thro' the manual process. Graeme Forbes ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: a new Dell PC
I can recommend Dell Precision. I have had the Precision 450 Dual Processor with 2GB memory for three and a half years now, all internal hardware preinstalled (factory installed), except one extra (my old) hard drive. I have never had a better or more reliable PC (although my home assembled PC comes close ;-) ). I expect to be using this computer for at least a couple of years more. Bodvar On Dec 9, 2007 11:23 PM, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ashley, Dell is fine although my experience is that you are better off if you buy the Dell Precision Workstations as opposed to the stuff they hawk for the low-end, casual users. The workstations tend to use more generic parts as opposed to married-to-the-motherboard specialized-for-Dell el-cheapo components. They have tremendous upgradability and much better support (often stateside as opposed to someplace exceptionally offshore) as well as very high performance. Note that Dell just replaced the whole Precision Workstation line with new models, the T7400, T5400, and the T3400. The primary difference between the models is capacity for expansion, power supply capacity, and case size. (The T7400 has a massive case; the T5400 and 3400 easily fit vertically under a desk or can be ordered for desktop horizontal use.) The T5400 is probably the best compromise unless you need multiple terabytes of storage or really extreme processing needs using the 64-bit versions of Windows. Assuming that your processing needs are use of FrameMaker 8, Acrobat Pro 8 typical e-mail and web browsing and perhaps also Illustrator and Photoshop, I would recommend that you not necessarily spend the extra $$$ for multiple processors or even the highest speed processor (a single two-point-something gigahertz dual or quad core Xeon will do fine). I would recommend that you get the full 4 gigabytes of memory as well as a video card such as the nVidia FX570 (at a minimum) that supports dual link DVI such that if you ever want to splurge on a very high resolution 30 monitor, your video card will directly support it (the Dell 30 LCD monitor is down to about $1300 now!). In terms of disk, it costs a bit more, but the SAS (serially attached SCSI) disks at 15000 rpm make a tremendous difference in performance - unless you are effectively running a server, a single 300 gigabyte 15000 rpm SAS driver will do (although you can put multiple such drives in the chassis). A single DVD burner will do fine. I would MOST STRONGLY advise you NOT to go with Windows Vista at this point unless you are a real glutton for punishment. Until Microsoft works out the kinks with both Service Packs 1 and 2, expect major anguish. All these high end products are still available with Windows XP Professional SP2. Likewise, stay away from the 64-bit versions of the operating systems. They are still a work in progress (including Windows XP 64-bit edition) and just too many drivers and programs just don't work quite right with them. I would say use of any version of Vista and 64-bit Windows for typical desktop applications should be held off for at least 18 to 24 months unless you don't value your own time. These Dell Precision Workstations can be fitted with many more gigabytes of memory and will support 64-bit editions of Vista if you need such support at that time. (Note that presently, other than having the support for more memory, there is not anything important to be gained by use of the 64-bit OS. Most applications are still 32-bit only and under the 64-bit OS, they run in emulation mode and can still only access 2 gigabytes of memory at a time! Wireless mice can be nice! But I would be very cautious of a wireless keyboard. I would keep a cheap wired keyboard around for emergencies, especially if you have boot problems. - Dov -Original Message- From: framers Meredith, Ashley Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 12:34 AM I've just had a hardware failure that means I get to upgrade to Vista Pro and the latest versions of FrameMaker and Acrobat Pro, as quick as I can get a new workstation ordered. The only stipulation that my university makes is that it prefers Dell. I haven't been paying much attention to hardware improvements lately, so I need to ask, does anyone have recent experience with their offerings? I can pretty much have what I ask for, so which model of Dell desktop should I specify? Which options? Are the wireless keyboard and mouse a hindrance? Also, would a SCSI drive be much of an improvement over their default drive? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
Re: PDF bookmark font is Arial not Arial-CE
IIRC, Acrobat does not support foreign characters in bookmarks, at least not in the older versions. I have not yet tested it in Acrobat 8. Bodvar On Dec 13, 2007 4:17 PM, Chinell, David F (GE Indust, Security) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm writing on behalf of a co-worker. OS: Windows XP FrameMaker: 7.0 She's creating a PDF from a FrameMaker document, using Print Book and selecting the Acrobat printer. The problem is that while the body styles are defined as Arial CE, the bookmarks are appearing (we guess) in Arial. That is, the symptom is that the bookmarks are garbled as the Polish headings contain characters not found, or not correctly mapped. How does one solve this problem? Specify a font for use in the bookmarks somehow? Or is there a different problem that's producing this symptom? Bear ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: The dreaded Internal Error error meets the dreaded Adobe support, sigh
Emily, THIS is the group to turn to in or before such woes! ;-) You don't give much info about your problem with 7.1, but many of us have had these internal errors. Usually thet are caused by some setting not being the right one. So, what is the version of your Acrobat/Distiller? And a little more detailed description of your process before the crash. Are you experiencing this only when printing a book to a file or when you try to save book as pdf or does this also happen when you try to pdf individual files. That sort of info will help the team of FrameUsers to find the solution. Being in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean (GMT) I am going home. Have an error free weekend. Bodvar On Jan 11, 2008 12:28 AM, Emily Berk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi FrameUsers: I don't know why I thought this list was no more. I'm glad that it is. Please help me with my FrameMaker 7.1 (yes, I know it's old; I am too and it's all the company I work for is willing to use and I need to be able to generate this one little PDF sometime within the next decade). Following is my latest tale of woe. I always forget why I always get queasy before calling Adobe's tech support. But then, once again, once my interaction with Adobe is complete, the nightmare has only just begun. Take today, for instance. Well, it all started yesterday when I began to get Internal Error crashes when I tried to generate a PDF, any PDF, on any Frame file (not on Word docs) using FrameMaker 7.1. Because I had a vague recollection of what it was like to interact with Adobe support, I didn't try that. But I did try a LOT of other stuff. For hours and hours. All to no avail. So, I decided to try to sleep on the problem, which wasn't a successful strategy for me. I've had a number of these Internal Error issues come up in the past and they never, ever, never go away on their own. Since sleep did not come, I chose to begin my Adobe nightmare early. Called tech support and spoke with about 3 or 4 perfectly nice folks whose English was very unclear. They would have to ask their questions, oh, six or seven times before I realized that they were asking, for the seventh or eighth time, what my customer number or serial number or product was. Eventually, (I was on hold and/or being transferred and then asked redundant questions about 45 minutes) I get to speak with someone about my problem. He doesn't speak very good English, but I am given to understand that he does not DO FrameMaker support. So now I'm on hold again for another very long interval. And a guy picks up who DOES speak English. And I explain my tale of woe -- no change on my end in terms of the software for at least 2 years. The doc is one I've been working on since last October at least. I tell him the whole story and he lets me go on and on and then he tells me, in his good English, that he doesn't know anything whatsoever about FrameMaker. But assures me that the guy who next picks up with both know FrameMaker AND be able to speak English. So I'm on hold again for -- not all that long -- maybe another 8 minutes, but time has been ticking away. Then a guy picks up and yes he does speak English and implies that he knows everything one might want to know about FrameMaker. But he knows nothing about me. SO, I have to re-iterate EVERYTHING again. Customer number, phone number, address, hair color, eye color, preferred brand of beer, product serial number, tale of woe. And then, after I'd re-iterated everything, he says, FrameMaker 7.1 is no longer supported. You need to search the knowledgebase or buy FrameMaker 8. 1. THEY ALL KNEW THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO PROVIDE SUPPORT TO ME ONCE THEY KNEW I WAS USING FRAMEMAKER 7.1. Why did they just not hang up on me then? 2. AND YET THEY KEPT ME ON HOLD/TALKING for NEARLY TWO HOURS. (I'm guessing all those guys who didn't speak good English get paid to delay people like me by the minute.) 3. AND THEN THEY REFUSED TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, BUT IMPLIED THAT THE SOLUTION IS IN THE KNOWLEDGEBASE. 4. WHICH IT ISN'T BECAUSE I'VE TRIED TO DO EVERYTHING MENTIONED IN THE DATABASE FOR Internal Error: 7104, 6063074, 7693891, 0 And, no, the company I'm working with is NOT going to upgrade to FrameMaker 8 just because Adobe did some hidden upgrade to 7.1 that made it psychotic. Do I sound frantic? It's probably just stress. Anyone have any suggestions? -- Emily ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are
Re: The dreaded Internal Error error meets the dreaded Adobe support, sigh
Emily, The one thing I cannot see that has been mentioned int this discussion and was my main teaser is the setting in Generate Acrobat Data. Ticking the Generate Tagged PDF (and then emptying the box or leaving only a few things to tag -- for leaner output) did the trick for me. Bodvar On Jan 11, 2008 6:31 PM, Emily Berk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried, Gillian, but FrameMaker crashes in the middle of the print to ps so there is no .ps file to distill. At 09:56 AM 1/11/2008 -0800, Flato, Gillian wrote: Emily, Did you try printing to a .ps file and then opening Acrobat Distiller and distilling the .ps file into a PDF? -Gillian -Original Message- From: Emily Berk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:46 AM To: Flato, Gillian; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: The dreaded Internal Error error meets the dreaded Adobe support, sigh Gee, everyone is recommending breathing as a good first step. Maybe we ought to write a self-help book about all the benefits. Seriously, all the supportive responses have been very calming! ... Emily Berk http://www.armadillosoft.com/blog ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: pagination dilemma
This has only happened to me in connection with footnotes and columns -- at least lately. Usually this happens when there is some sort of conflicting instructions regarding the behavior of the paragraphs resulting in the contents to cross over the bottom of the text frame instead of breaking between pages or moving between pages. I think more info from you about your layout would be needed to give any reasonably relevant reply. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson On Sun, Feb 3, 2008 at 10:36 AM, David Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to adjust our template to add a line to the header (recently one was also added to the footer), resulting in a two line header and a two line footer. The problem is that I need to keep the text area the same size without stealing from the margins. I had tested this on body text only and the same number of lines fits on the page without a problem. But I noticed than when you have other formatting, such as a lot of code, the last line on the page practically sits on the line separating the text from the footer. Because I've only packaged one document this way, I went through and did a manual adjustment by applying Keep with Next whenever the last text line looks too close to the separation line. Any ideas how to make the impossible possible? Is there any way to set the minimum space that needs to exist between the line and the footer? Any other solutions? David Kuhn Technical Writer, PBG +1.972.9.776.1956 (desk) +1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile) AMDOCS CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Change bars that will not die and making RoboHelp for FrameMaker see
You may have to check for conditional text. Revision bars are often set in some conditions. You may have to change that directly or just make the offending paragraph (object) unconditional. Also change bars may be the result of an element set to display the change bar, so if these documents are structured, you may have to look into the EDD. Further, there may be a character format set to use change bars. Try first to Format Document Change Bars Clear All Change Bars If the change bars then show when you open the file (test by closing and reopening), some of the above may be the offending factor. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Thomas Scalise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Esteemed colleagues, Two questions, please. 1. I've got a book that I inherited from a contractor colleague that exhibits persistent change bars, even though I have repeatedly turned them off. Edits immediately bring change bars. Can anyone help me out on this? I'm defeated. 2. Also, can anyone tell me where RoboHelp for FrameMaker stores the path to FrameMaker. I recently re-installed RH4FM, after a long interval, but the program can't find FrameMaker. I can't find an ini file, or whatever, where I might manually point RH4FM in the right direction. Adobe help is daunting to access and worthless if you finally reach it. Forget communication with a real, live human being...ain't gonna happen. TIA for whatever advice and assistance you can give me. Tom Scalise Manager, Information Development Cross Match Technologies, Inc 561-622-5416 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been told one should have a goal. Mine is to live forever. So far, so good. This e-mail message from Cross Match Technologies, Inc. is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail by accident, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail and all copies of it. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Internal Error
In large documents, bigger RAM can speed up the work but usually 1GB is ample. Which version FM and in what instances does this happen? Bodvar On Wed, Feb 6, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I occasionally have the dreaded Internal Error after a search in FM, then FM closes. Would extra RAM help? I have 1 GB of RAM now. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Internal Error
On Thu, Feb 7, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using FM Version 7.2b128. There are some Corel embedded graphics which takes 5-10 seconds to display. Corel? Not EPS or TIFF exported? I did not think that FM was able to display original Corel format. But it is a known disadvantage with FM how long it takes to display some graphic. That, however, has nothing to do with the internal error per se. When I'm scrolling through the document and I encounter one of them, I can't continue scrolling until they are displayed. Perhaps this has something to do with the Internal Error problem. Would extra RAM help with this? Extra ram would possibly help here, I cannot say for sure, though. Your internal error messages, when do they appear? When scrolling through the document or when printing? If it happens when you are scrolling, that might indicate a bad image (the error would show approximately in the same spot in the document). Bodvar Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: In large documents, bigger RAM can speed up the work but usually 1GB is ample. Which version FM and in what instances does this happen? Bodvar On Wed, Feb 6, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I occasionally have the dreaded Internal Error after a search in FM, then FM closes. Would extra RAM help? I have 1 GB of RAM now. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Internal Error
I have not had much experience with error related to search, but I remember that several have reported same way as you, and I think someone had a solution. I know OLE linking is supposedly not kosher in FM, but we do that all the time with Visio drawings and I have not yet had a problem with that. Bodvar On Thu, Feb 7, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your reply. I mean an embedded Corel file. As in Import Object, not Import File. I used to get them when I would encounter Corel embedded graphics and tried to continue scrolling without waiting for the graphic to appear. Noe I just wait. Lately it happens occasionally when doing a search in an entire book. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: On Thu, Feb 7, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using FM Version 7.2b128. There are some Corel embedded graphics which takes 5-10 seconds to display. Corel? Not EPS or TIFF exported? I did not think that FM was able to display original Corel format. But it is a known disadvantage with FM how long it takes to display some graphic. That, however, has nothing to do with the internal error per se. When I'm scrolling through the document and I encounter one of them, I can't continue scrolling until they are displayed. Perhaps this has something to do with the Internal Error problem. Would extra RAM help with this? Extra ram would possibly help here, I cannot say for sure, though. Your internal error messages, when do they appear? When scrolling through the document or when printing? If it happens when you are scrolling, that might indicate a bad image (the error would show approximately in the same spot in the document). Bodvar Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: In large documents, bigger RAM can speed up the work but usually 1GB is ample. Which version FM and in what instances does this happen? Bodvar On Wed, Feb 6, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I occasionally have the dreaded Internal Error after a search in FM, then FM closes. Would extra RAM help? I have 1 GB of RAM now. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson ___ -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM abruptly closes with no save
FM 7.2 XP. When looking for a way to remove a ghost revision bar at the end of a paragraph last in a section in Structured FM (5 or 6 levels closing), I went to Format Document Change Bars. When clicking on that (with the elements highlighted), FM crashed without saving of any sort, only showing an error message for a moment and telling it must close. My first experience in this direction for a long time. I have not tried to regenerate this error. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Air Atlanta Icelandic. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM abruptly closes with no save
In the MIFfed file I found the offending rascal. Between the closing of the second last and the last Section level elements, where there should have been nothing, I found: Font FTag `' FChangeBar Yes FLocked No # end of Font It seemed impossible to get to it in FM itself. Deleting these lines in the MIF cleared the change bar. So this (or something similar) is what to look for in the MIF in such cases. Bodvar On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FM 7.2 XP. When looking for a way to remove a ghost revision bar at the end of a paragraph last in a section in Structured FM (5 or 6 levels closing), I went to Format Document Change Bars. When clicking on that (with the elements highlighted), FM crashed without saving of any sort, only showing an error message for a moment and telling it must close. My first experience in this direction for a long time. I have not tried to regenerate this error. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Air Atlanta Icelandic. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Shutdown
I talked to my IP Director and he advised me to google for info on logoff scripts. I came up with this for Win XP: QUOTE: If you go to start run, type gpedit.msc This should open the local group policy. Under the User Configuration Window Settings Scripts(Logon/Logoff). There are key/values for logon and logoff scripts. Doubleclick on Logoff and then add, and browse to your script or batch file. I think this should then run when you logoff. snip Hope this helps. UNQUOTE Then I should only need the first three lines of the code Mike supplied to delete the fntcache.dat at logoff forcing Windows to create a fresh one at next boot. The script would be saved to C:\Windows\System32\GroupPolicy\User\Scripts\Logoff\ folder I am going to try this. I'' let you know if this is not working. Bodvar On Mon, Dec 3, 2007 at 5:34 PM, Mike Wickham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, Framers: it would be nice if I could use some script or .bat file to delete my font cache on Windows shutdown automatically. Any ideas for this? Create a batch file containing the following lines: @echo off REM Delete fntcache.dat del c:\windows\system32\fntcache.dat REM Restart Windows in two seconds C:\WINDOWS\system32\shutdown.exe -r -t 02 Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Registering a new FrameMaker license
Ask the seller (if not already stated in the description) whether this is an unused, sealed copy. By the rules of eBay, wrong information will deem the seller to refund. Do not ask for a serial number because the seller will probably know that such information can (sometimes?) be used illegally on pirate copies. If it is a used copy, get his/her assertion that Adobe has been advised of the selling and the former user has been de-registered off the copy. Adobe cannot IMHO prevent anyone from selling his/her copy, provided that the registration things are in order. This info is based solely on my own experience with shopping on eBay or otherwise on the Internet. Bodvar On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Daniel Emory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recall recent posts on this subject. Specifically about buying an old version of frame from Ebay, and then registering it with adobe so as to get the upgrade price for the latest version. Apparently, part of the problem is to be sure the copy is not already registered to someone else. How can I be assured that buying the product on Ebay is eligible for registration in my name. Also, I looked aroun on the Adobe website for the subject of how to register Framemaker as the crucial step in buying an upgrade. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is there a way to paste text as default?
I did not even know of the personal maker.ini, but it is there sure enough. HOWEVER, I would not recommend putting these things in there, the reason being: 1. ~\Documents and Settings\ ~~~ da da da \maker.ini showed with today's stamp, implying that it is regenerated each time you boot. 2. The personal maker.ini file only shows portions of the main file and seems to handle locations of folders and such. 3. Everyone has recommended doing the changes on the main maker.ini. QUESTION: Did you remember to restart (close and start again) FrameMaker after doing the changes? The maker.ini changes will not affect the already running FM, as this is only a file it reads at startup. HTH, Bodvar On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Inbar, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Will, I don't know how things are setup on your system, but on my system the other maker.ini is located here: C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.2 Good luck, Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whites Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:05 AM To: Reng, Dr. Winfried Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Is there a way to paste text as default? Here's the mystery - Running 7.2 on XP, sp2. I only have the one maker.ini (the one in the Program Files folder). I did a search through the entire C drive for the second one. Nothing shows up. Of course, when I move the TEXT option to the head of the list in the Program Files file, it doesn't change how the paste function works. Any hints where my other maker.ini might be lurking?? will white On Mar 5, 2008, at 4:14 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote: Hi Marta, In the maker.ini file change the order of formats for ClipboardFormatsPriorities, so that TEXT comes first. Newer FM versions have 2 maker.ini files, one in the Program Files folder and one in your personal folder. This change in the maker.ini file works only for text which you copied in another application. If you want to paste FM text, you should use additional utilities which strip the formatting info. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Berman, Marta Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:57 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Is there a way to paste text as default? Is there a way to set the default paste option in FrameMaker to Text (so that I don't have to use Paste Special Text) ? Thanks Marta Berman ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ whitefamily%40mac.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. +++ There's the right way and the wrong way. Then there's my way - which is like the wrong way, but faster. +++ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/paul.inbar%40intel.c om Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. - Intel Israel (74) Limited This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for
Re: Is there a way to paste text as default?
Thanks Fred, I stand corrected. Bodvar -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In responding about the personal copy of maker.ini Bodvar wrote (in part): 1. ~\Documents and Settings\ ~~~ da da da \maker.ini showed with today's stamp, implying that it is regenerated each time you boot. Not true. What happens is that the current session's preference items get saved each time you exit FrameMaker so that they will be used as the defaults the next time you start FrameMaker. 2. The personal maker.ini file only shows portions of the main file and seems to handle locations of folders and such. The personal maker.ini can specify a personal override value for *any* parameter that is controlled by the ini file. By default, it included things like default directories, user dictionaires, user preference items like automatic save, and default locations of dialog boxes--all the kinds of things that any user is likely to set for their own personal preference. The whole point is to allow different users of a shared computer to set up their defaults the way they like them without interfering with other users. When you start FramemMaker, the main maker.ini is read first, then the current user's maker.ini. This means that all settings in the main maker.ini are used except for the specific items that are included in the personal maker.ini. Fred Ridder Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! Learn more. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Syntax highlighting for MIF in EditPad
Hi, Does anyone on the list know where I could get a syntax highlighting addition for Maker Interchange Format for the EditPad editor? Seems not to come up on Googling, but some people on the list seem very happy with EditPad. Thanks, Bodvar -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: question about modification date variable
I know this is a late reply but I will try to help a bit. Question: Will all pages show the same date (i.e. be updated at the same time) or will the pages be revised as an entity in itself? If the whole manual will show the same date, the easiest thing would be to make a variable with the date (in regular text format, not using the date system variable) and insert it into both the Revision Page revision entry _and_ to the header or footer of the master page(s). If you want to have different dates on any page(s), you would have to skip the date in the footer and add a text frame into each of the pages (not connected to the main flow). You will add the revision dates as new variables and insert the variables into the text fields and into the entry in the Revison Page. This should not be much work for a 30 page manual. HTH, Bodvar On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Deirdre Reagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all! I am staring at my FM 8.0 document and realize it's time yet again to call on my good friends on teh intertubes. I have a document of probably 30 pages with a Record of Revisions page. The date on every single page is a cross reference to the original date variable on the Record of Revisions page. Does that sound right to you? I'm asking because I'm wondering how to deal with revisions. How do I modify the date on the pages that have been revised? Put a modification date variable on the Record of Revisions page then manually erase the cross-reference on each affected page and insert a cross-reference to the Record of Revision modification date variable? That seems like a lot of manual labor, and adding the cross reference will actually take more time than just cutting and pasting the revised date. And the automation of the cross-reference is irrelevant because once the date's in place, it never changes except to get replaced by a new revision date, which I have to do manually (see above). Am I missing something? I've checked both Help in FM and the varible section in the Adobe FM User Guide, but I haven't found the answer. Also, is there a good tutorial anywhere that can teach me all of this stuff? Or is it a matter of experience? Thanks, Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: import only one
Hi Milan, One of the files that come with FrameScript is ImportPgfFormats.fsl which I use very much. With that you can choose which one or more of PgfFormats you want to import. Bodvar On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Milan Davidovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I couldn't think of good terms for searching for this answer using Google -- suggestions are welcome... I'm in Frame 7.2 on Windows. When I want to import, say, one paragraph format from another FrameMaker file into the one I'm working in, I go File Import Formats and then select Paragraph Formats, importing *all* the paragraph formats from that other file. Is there a way (including scripts, plugins, etc.) of importing only the one that I want? -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Adobe PS3 drivers
We are in the process of updating our PostScript color printer. Only a few seem to be offering true Adobe PS3 printers, but one of the agents (with a brand that seems to offer either one of true Adobe PS3 or a PS3 emulator) says that Adobe no longer provides drivers, only licenses for third parties to make those, resulting in diminishing offers of printers with the Adobe PS3 logo. Can anyone on the list confirm this or explain this? (Dov? Shlomo?) Thank you, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Air Atlanta Icelandic -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker Class
Bright Path Solutions ( http://www.brightpathsolutions.com ) is based in or around Raleigh, NC. Bodvar On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Deirdre Reagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to be clear, I'm looking for names of companies. I can travel to Atlanta, Birmingham, and Washington DC. (and other places in the Southeast) On 5/7/08, Deirdre Reagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my company wants me to look into Framemaker Classes. I am in Mobile, Alabama. Anyone have any opinions about where I should take classes? I learn much better in person than over the computer, so I would want to take a traditional class. Thanks! Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker Books
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Deirdre Reagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all: I know this topic was just covered, and I've searched for it in the archives, but I'd like also to get your opinions. I've been told that Framemaker: Classroom in a Book is an excellent resource for learning FM. But on Amazon, the reviews are very poor. Very good for starting on your own. Helpful for preparing for intensive courses, like BrightPath's Bootcamps and for others too, I'm sure. Framemaker 7: The Complete Reference by O'Keefe has good reviews, but it doesn't seem to be available anymore. I highly recommend this book. Look for it at http://www.scriptorium.com/ It is not a Complete Reference as included in the first title, but an excellent textbook. Framemaker 6: Beyond the Basics by Jahred has outstanding reviews but it also is no longer available. Don't know it. HTH, Bodvar Any suggestions? Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Book file too big
I often had this problem until I made sure (by automation) that the
dreaded FNTCACHE.DAT file was deleted every time I shut the computer
down. Since that I have not had this problem. So got to your
C:\WINDOWS\System32\, find the file, delete it and reboot. This is a
file that will be re-created on boot.
I recently wrote on the list a procedure to make Windows do this
automatically. It has worked fine so far.
Best regards,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:04 PM, HSC Italian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Rick,
That's good news that you don't think it's maxing out ... as I have 130 more
files to add to it :)
Here's the Distiller error:
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: _objdef
A290821.1 ]%%
Stack:
/ANN
/Custom
/Subtype
[0 0 0]
/Border
[4689 2286 7299 2086]
/Rect
{A290821.1}
/_objdef
-dict-
%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%
Distill Time: 00 Hour(s) : 00 Minute(s) : 19.16 Second(s)
End of Job
Thanks!
Heidi
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framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Book file too big Date: Wed, 7
May 2008 15:54:22 -0400 Hi Heidi, I doubt if it is maxed out. What is
the text of the error you get in the Distiller error log? Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hello Framers, I
have a book that consist of close to 500 files. The total page count is shy
of 900. The problem: I cannot print a .pdf. I've created mifs to correct
the issue in a given file and it worked, but then a few files down it did
it on another file. I mifed ALL the files, tried to print to PDF again and
now it stopping on one particular page. I've mifed it, I've saved the
content in a new file container, blah blah. It won't go budge! Is it
possible this book, with umpteen xrefs to other files in the book is just
maxed out? Any insight is much appreciated! Heidi
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Re: Case Change (a la Word)?
And: FM not only changes the presentation of the characters, like Word does, but actually changes them (the character code). Besides the shortcuts, there is a toolbar with these options. Click View Quick Access Bar, if it is not showing. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Ken Poshedly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah . . what a list! Thank you, Art! -- Ken At 10:11 AM 5/17/2008, Art Campbell wrote: Ctrl-Alt and u, l, or c for UPPER, lower, or Cap(Case) Art On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Ken Poshedly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I just haven't found it yet (it's not really a top priority but would oftentimes make some tasks a bit quicker), but does FM have a similar feature as in Word whee you can choose to change the case of a selection of highlighted words (ALL CAPS, all lowercase, Initial Case, or Title case like this). I'm using FM7.0 at home and 8.0 a the office -- both on a Windows XP platform. -- Kenpo in Atlanta ___ -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Basic question- Visio to Frame
The OLE linking of Visio files has worked well for me. I have tried PDF-ing the Visio and EPS-ing that in Acrobat. It sometimes works and sometimes crashes FM, like a couple of days since. I then saved the Visio as AutoCad and opened that in Illustrator, made some changes and EPS-ed that. No crash now on this graphic. The downside of the OLE linking is that FM will pause paging when it hits the link and while loading the graphic, which can be a bit annoying. Bodvar On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Art Campbell wrote: The accepted way to do this was to import Visio files as OLE objects, however OLE didn't always work reliably, especially if you were doing several files. Just lately, after installing XP SP3, even that limited method quit working for me and several others who have reported problems. If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file. I think if you check the archives, you'll find as much or more criticism of using OLE as acceptance. As for saving Visio drawings in a graphic format, the problem in the past has been that most of Visio's export filters (including WMF and EPS) weren't very good (I don't know if that's changed in Visio 2007). Also, many people unwisely save those nice scalable vector graphics in a raster (bitmap) format like PNG. I've been using a Visio PDF FM process for some time and strongly recommend it. If you have a recent full version of Acrobat (6-8, I believe) and it was installed after Visio (2000-2007, I believe), you'll have PDFMaker available in Visio, just like in Word, and making PDFs is a one-click procedure. Multi-page Visio files turn into multi-page PDFs. In FM, import the PDF by reference (select the page you want, if necessary). When you edit the Visio file, just click the PDF button, and let the path/name default to the one you used the last time you did this. The next time you open the FM doc, you'll see the new version. HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: XP Service Patch 3 prevents referencing Visios in Frame 7.2
Our IT staff say there are lots of other incompatiblities in SP3 with older software and that they are not going for it until it has been out for approx. a full year. (I hate to say this, but it seems a lot like with FM 8, as predicted by so many in June last year. Sorry, Adobe, sad but true, I'm afraid.) Bodvar -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Dan Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://windowssecrets.com/comp/080529/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Condtion color and change bar not showing
I was updating a file (chapter) of a book yesterday (regular, not structured). It had been set up with conditions (deleted, inserted), the deleted condition hidden and everything else showing in B/W and no change bars. I deleted all older conditions deleted. Now I wanted the new revision to show the appropriate colors for deleted and inserted and found the condition tags to show inserted as green and deleted as red, both with the change bar set to show. However all attempts to show color or change bar were unsuccessful. I made a new color tag and changed the inserted condition tag to show the new color, but still no luck. So my final attempt to solve the problem was to run a compare on the new v/s the old file and get the fresh changes in full color in the CMP file. But I still cannot guess what was wrong with the original file I was working on. I tried to mif-wash the file and no luck. I tried to mif it and search for something that would shed a light, but I found nothing that I could really point a finger at. At least it seemed to me that the conditions were not set in a set of opening and closing tag, rather that a condition was set until it was overridden by another condition tag. Can anyone shed a light on this for me? Thanks, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5
Thanks Art, I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT file, so no problem there. About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed a book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed one offending graphic. Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text. Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling without opening any unnecessary applications? *** What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling? Art On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body format). There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot of graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs. I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a new file, but the result is always the same. I am on a tight schedule with this. Any suggestions? Thanks beforehand, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Air Atlanta Icelandic -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5
No, I had not tried that yet. One funny thing. When processing the files with all book components open, I get recovery files of all files except Chapter 4. Thanks, Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bodvar, Have you tried removing the EPS on page 6 of chapter 4 and seeing if it distills successfully? I have had issues such as you describe, right down to missing text, and it has always come down to a problematic EPS image. Berny Gagne Lead Writer Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd. Bolton, Ontario, Canada -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:31 AM To: Frame Users Subject: Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5 Thanks Art, I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT file, so no problem there. About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed a book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed one offending graphic. Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text. Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling without opening any unnecessary applications? *** What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling? Art On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body format). There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot of graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs. I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a new file, but the result is always the same. I am on a tight schedule with this. Any suggestions? Thanks beforehand, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Air Atlanta Icelandic -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5
I tried this now and same results. Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I had not tried that yet. One funny thing. When processing the files with all book components open, I get recovery files of all files except Chapter 4. Thanks, Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bodvar, Have you tried removing the EPS on page 6 of chapter 4 and seeing if it distills successfully? I have had issues such as you describe, right down to missing text, and it has always come down to a problematic EPS image. Berny Gagne Lead Writer Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd. Bolton, Ontario, Canada -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:31 AM To: Frame Users Subject: Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5 Thanks Art, I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT file, so no problem there. About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed a book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed one offending graphic. Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text. Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling without opening any unnecessary applications? *** What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling? Art On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body format). There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot of graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs. I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a new file, but the result is always the same. I am on a tight schedule with this. Any suggestions? Thanks beforehand, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Air Atlanta Icelandic -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5
Yes Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you print Chapter 4 to PDF by itself? Art On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried this now and same results. Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I had not tried that yet. One funny thing. When processing the files with all book components open, I get recovery files of all files except Chapter 4. Thanks, Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bodvar, Have you tried removing the EPS on page 6 of chapter 4 and seeing if it distills successfully? I have had issues such as you describe, right down to missing text, and it has always come down to a problematic EPS image. Berny Gagne Lead Writer Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd. Bolton, Ontario, Canada -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:31 AM To: Frame Users Subject: Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5 Thanks Art, I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT file, so no problem there. About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed a book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed one offending graphic. Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text. Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling without opening any unnecessary applications? *** What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling? Art On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body format). There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot of graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs. I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a new file, but the result is always the same. I am on a tight schedule with this. Any suggestions? Thanks beforehand, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Air Atlanta Icelandic -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: Printing Error with FM
Hi Dov, This is new to me, as it has been stressed on many occations that the EPS should be saved as PS language level 3. Almost all my EPSs are. Could this be the thing that is causing me all the trouble these days (see message thread FM Crash chapter 4 page 5)? Regards, Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .EPS files are Encapsulated PostScript containing a low resolution TIFF header and PostScript text. In the case of EPS saved from Illustrator, certain private data is stored in comments in the PostScript text from which Illustrator can properly reopen and edit the EPS files saved from Illustrator. If you are having problems with EPS files saved from Adobe Illustrator, check and make sure you are saving them as PostScript language level 2 as opposed to PostScript language level 3. That is most likely the cause of your problems! - Dov -Original Message- From: Tim Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:14 AM I have been referencing .eps files into the FM file. The reason I had been printing directly from the FrameMaker document was because it is easy for me to proofread a hard copy (a whole another issue) as I work on a document. From the excellent suggestions I've received, it looks like I should be making a PDF and then print from that. However, it takes twice as long to get a copy that I can proofread. Obviously, the finished document can be printed from the PDF and that is what I always deliver to my clients. Dov mentions the .AI format. I've always saved as .EPS because that is what I was told to do several years ago. Most of my illustrations are line art and some .BMP files that I added callouts or edited in Illustrator. Frankly, I do not know the difference between .AI and .EPS. The online Help does not give me enough information. So, what is the difference and what should I be using in my FrameMaker documents? Tim Lewis Lewis Technical Communications, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:52 AM To: Tim Lewis; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Printing Error with FM What is not clear from your description is exactly WHAT you are referencing in your FrameMaker documents. If you are referencing a .AI file, you are in effect referencing a PDF 1.3 file; FrameMaker really knows nothing about the Illustrator document format but rather is able to convert the PDF inside a .AI file saved with the PDF compatibility option to EPS when importing; that's what really happens. Thus, what probably happened was the equivalent of placing an EPS file with PostScript 3 constructs into your FramMaker document. When you printed directly from FrameMaker, the PostScript 3 is what choked your printer. Of course, if you created PDF and printed from that (by the way, a much better solution in general than EVER printing directly from FrameMaker), as you found, Acrobat (or Reader) has the smarts to downgrade to PostScript language level 2 constructs as necessary for your PostScript Level 2 device. Here are your alternatives: (1) Continue what you are doing and always print from Acrobat or Reader instead of FrameMaker (not a bad choice in the general case -- this is something I personally do with most all applications these days! I get to see on-screen what I will print and do some cursory pre-flight to avoid wasted printing). (2) Save your Illustrator documents as EPS language level 2 and import those into FrameMaker instead. This will pessimize things such as gradients, but otherwise you should be OK. (3) There is a maker.ini setting for controlling the conversion of PDF to EPS (I don't have a reference with me for the exact setting). Change that to indicate PostScript language level 2 instead of 3 (ironically, I thought that the default for that was 2, not 3!) (4) Go out and buy a new printer. If you are happy with the printer you currently have, this is the most ridiculous solution! Personally, I'd go with solution (1). - Dov snip ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit
Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5
Art, I am utterly flabbergasted! This worked. Thanks. In the early times of FM7.2 and/or Acrobat6 or 7 (IIRC), crashes were bound to happen if the Generate Tagged PDF was not set. And now Dov tells us that another must has to be the other way around. I am referring to the language level setting in EPS made from AI. This is a weird day. I hope this will stick for some time. I would hate to wake up tomorrow, finding out that the things that worked today will not or that there is something else that I have been doing right for years must be done the other way around. :-( It is time for my tea as the Englishmen say, so I am going home now. Thanks to everyone that helped -- or tried to. One final word to Adobe: Please make effort to make FM stable in handling all sorts of situation. I am really getting tired of the all to frequent surprises. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Air Atlanta Icelandic On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try toggling the Generate Tagged PDF setting for the book Art On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you print Chapter 4 to PDF by itself? Art On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried this now and same results. Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I had not tried that yet. One funny thing. When processing the files with all book components open, I get recovery files of all files except Chapter 4. Thanks, Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bodvar, Have you tried removing the EPS on page 6 of chapter 4 and seeing if it distills successfully? I have had issues such as you describe, right down to missing text, and it has always come down to a problematic EPS image. Berny Gagne Lead Writer Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd. Bolton, Ontario, Canada -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:31 AM To: Frame Users Subject: Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5 Thanks Art, I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT file, so no problem there. About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed a book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed one offending graphic. Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text. Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling without opening any unnecessary applications? *** What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling? Art On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body format). There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot of graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs. I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a new file, but the result is always the same. I am on a tight schedule with this. Any suggestions? Thanks beforehand, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Air Atlanta Icelandic -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof
Re: Printing Error with FM
Sorry, and thanks for pointing that out, Dov. I did not read the thread through. I am relieved. :-) Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bodvar, You must read my response in CONTEXT to the thread. The OP wanted a solution to printing directly from FrameMaker to a PostScript language level 2 printer. In that case, EPS must be no more than language level 2. That being said, my original response recommended as the best solution to simply create PDF and print from Reader or Acrobat. With that solution PostScript language level 3 EPS is no longer a problem and should be what you import into FrameMaker documents. - Dov -Original Message- From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:16 AM To: Dov Isaacs Cc: Tim Lewis; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Printing Error with FM Hi Dov, This is new to me, as it has been stressed on many occations that the EPS should be saved as PS language level 3. Almost all my EPSs are. Could this be the thing that is causing me all the trouble these days (see message thread FM Crash chapter 4 page 5)? Regards, Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .EPS files are Encapsulated PostScript containing a low resolution TIFF header and PostScript text. In the case of EPS saved from Illustrator, certain private data is stored in comments in the PostScript text from which Illustrator can properly reopen and edit the EPS files saved from Illustrator. If you are having problems with EPS files saved from Adobe Illustrator, check and make sure you are saving them as PostScript language level 2 as opposed to PostScript language level 3. That is most likely the cause of your problems! - Dov -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5
Bummer! To day is another day. :-( Now it crashes again and on the same exact spot. I finally tried to remove Chapter 3 from the book. This way the book printed OK to ps. Then I printed Chapter 3 separately (also with bookmarks) and inserted that into the distilled pdf from the book, moved the bookmarks to the right place and everything works fine apart from the links in the ToC to Chapter 3 which think that there must be some different file to look for. I can live with that in this case. This leads me to think that Chapter 3 maybe takes up too much resources or memory. It includes some 6 tifs and 15 eps graphics (referenced) which are in fact mostly full pages from pdf documents. Can anyone comment on how XP SP2 memory or resources deal with EPSs in FM? Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Art, I am utterly flabbergasted! This worked. Thanks. In the early times of FM7.2 and/or Acrobat6 or 7 (IIRC), crashes were bound to happen if the Generate Tagged PDF was not set. And now Dov tells us that another must has to be the other way around. I am referring to the language level setting in EPS made from AI. This is a weird day. I hope this will stick for some time. I would hate to wake up tomorrow, finding out that the things that worked today will not or that there is something else that I have been doing right for years must be done the other way around. :-( It is time for my tea as the Englishmen say, so I am going home now. Thanks to everyone that helped -- or tried to. One final word to Adobe: Please make effort to make FM stable in handling all sorts of situation. I am really getting tired of the all to frequent surprises. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Air Atlanta Icelandic On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try toggling the Generate Tagged PDF setting for the book Art On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you print Chapter 4 to PDF by itself? Art On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried this now and same results. Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I had not tried that yet. One funny thing. When processing the files with all book components open, I get recovery files of all files except Chapter 4. Thanks, Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bodvar, Have you tried removing the EPS on page 6 of chapter 4 and seeing if it distills successfully? I have had issues such as you describe, right down to missing text, and it has always come down to a problematic EPS image. Berny Gagne Lead Writer Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd. Bolton, Ontario, Canada -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:31 AM To: Frame Users Subject: Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5 Thanks Art, I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT file, so no problem there. About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed a book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed one offending graphic. Bodvar On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text. Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling without opening any unnecessary applications? *** What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling? Art On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body format). There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot of graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs. I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a new file, but the result is always the same. I am on a tight schedule with this. Any suggestions? Thanks beforehand, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Air Atlanta Icelandic -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec
Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5
All the pages were EPS'd from PDF according to the old Gospel. ;-) I will, when I get the time again, try the PDF approach, as so many have suggested and I have successfully done in many other (more recently prepared) manuals. At least I have not had any problems with such pdfs to speak of. Again, thanks to all that helped or tried to. This list is really something. :-) Bodvar On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You say all those EPSs are pages from PDF documents. Have you tried importing them directly as PDF images? I'm thinking that perhaps the raster preview images that are required for the EPSs might be clogging your available memory. Importing PDFs directly eliminates the need for the bulky preview images because the PDF can be directly rendered on-screen. -FR -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Overrides
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:45 PM, William Abernathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --snipped-- Richard's solution is spot-on. For a long time, I deleted any extra spaces I saw at the end of a paragraph, --snipped-- --William Actually, there is one downside to this that I frequently come across, but this has mainly to do with headings that go into a ToC or the like. If you leave a space at the end of a heading also this space will be imported to the ToC too, so that if you have a dotted tab after the heading it will add space before the tab dotted line. Also, and this appears mainly in narrow columns, trailing spaces somtimes affect the line it appears in if the line is just on the verge of splitting. I can see this by removing the space, then the whole line rearranges itself on the screen (filling the not so empty space to the right). I have not tested this thoroughly with printed samples though. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix now available
Finally! -- if it works, that is (but no hurray here -- how many years has this been taking?) However, to you Yves, tanks for the information. You get the hurray from me. :-) Bodvar On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Yves Barbion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Framers Good news for those of you who have experienced the following problems: - Save as PDF leading to a crash. - Text dropping out of PDF created from FrameMaker. The only workaround for this nasty problem was to delete fntcache.dat and restart Windows. This is no longer necessary (fingers crossed), because a Windows Hotfix is now available: http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2008/07/hotfix_for_framemaker_1.html Hurray, hurray! -- Yves Barbion • Managing Director Scripto • Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu • skype: yves.barbion • T: +32 494 12 01 89 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Words dropping out when a PDF is generated
This I have experienced (besides what is due to the FNTCACHE.DAT problem) when Structured FrameMaker has gobbled up too much memory. The only solution (until Micro$oft sometime in the next ten years solves it with a brand new Hotfix ;-) ) is to quit FM and restart or even to reboot. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:52 PM, John Posada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, guys. Has anyone experienced the problem of when generating a PDF from a Frame book, of random words dropping out; not appearing in the PDF, but their space still reserved. From what we can tell, it only happens on XP Pro OS and is more prone (though not always) in text inserted by reference. -- John Posada Senior Technical Writer NYMetro STC President 'Half this game is ninety percent mental.' -- Danny Ozark, Philadelphia Phillies manager ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix now available
Seems that this is only for Vista. That is the only option I get and the file I received was a Vista installation file. I even opened it using the expand function, but this showed only Windows 6.0 related files (mum and cab). Is there a way to get this working on XP SP2? Bodvar Bjorgvinsson On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Yves Barbion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Framers Good news for those of you who have experienced the following problems: - Save as PDF leading to a crash. - Text dropping out of PDF created from FrameMaker. The only workaround for this nasty problem was to delete fntcache.dat and restart Windows. This is no longer necessary (fingers crossed), because a Windows Hotfix is now available: http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2008/07/hotfix_for_framemaker_1.html Hurray, hurray! -- Yves Barbion • Managing Director Scripto • Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu • skype: yves.barbion • T: +32 494 12 01 89 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix now available
Thanks for the info, Art. The link was not quite that obvious. But the odd thing is that all the XP versions seem to assume SP4. I am running SP2 and only new installations in my company are SP3. None is SP4. I hope it will not result in some disaster. ;-) Bodvar On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I downloaded from the site, you had to specify your OS, I assume in order to get an OS-specific file. I think this is because it is an expidited hot fix that isn't available for general release yet. But I specified XP, and it gave me a file that installed fine. 348411_ENU_i386_zip.exe at 715 K Art On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems that this is only for Vista. That is the only option I get and the file I received was a Vista installation file. I even opened it using the expand function, but this showed only Windows 6.0 related files (mum and cab). Is there a way to get this working on XP SP2? Bodvar Bjorgvinsson -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix nowavailable
No crashes here either (yet) and I made no other changes than installing the hotfix. Bodvar On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:42 PM, John Sgammato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I uninstalled some other potential problems and now all is well - no more crashes today. -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:05 AM To: John Sgammato; FrameUsers List Subject: Re: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix nowavailable John, Have you tried uninstalling the fix yet, to compare? (No crashes here, yet, but I haven't put it on a production system yet.) Art On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:59 AM, John Sgammato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded and installed the XP file. Since then FM has crashed three times. I never had that problem before. john From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Art Campbell Sent: Tue 7/8/2008 7:41 AM To: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson; FrameUsers List Subject: Re: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix nowavailable When I downloaded from the site, you had to specify your OS, I assume in order to get an OS-specific file. I think this is because it is an expidited hot fix that isn't available for general release yet. But I specified XP, and it gave me a file that installed fine. 348411_ENU_i386_zip.exe at 715 K Art On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems that this is only for Vista. That is the only option I get and the file I received was a Vista installation file. I even opened it using the expand function, but this showed only Windows 6.0 related files (mum and cab). Is there a way to get this working on XP SP2? Bodvar Bjorgvinsson -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40impriv ata.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: ON-SCREEN GUIDES
My workaround has been to make lines (.5pt) in Cyan and then delete them when I have finished aligning to them. A more dangerous approach would be to apply a special color tag to the lines that you could then change to white or your background color. I would add guides to the wishlist for next FM upgrade. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Michael Zaichenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello there, does anyone know of a utility that would put guides on my screen. To explain: Frame doesn't have any guides and at times it's needed. Any advanced software - Photoshop, Indesign, etc. has rules (or guides) which you can just drag around and place wherever you need and align your objects accordingly. Not so with Frame. So I thought maybe there is some on-screen guides utility that I can use. I know, I know - grid lines, snapping, aligning, etc. are all to my discretion. However i'm doing a specific graphic work and all i need is guides. Ideas? Michael _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Menu item Fonts lost in Format drop down menu
FM 7.2 no longer shows the Font menu item in Format. I have checked various files, and, oddly enough I found an almost complete duplicate of FrameMaker 7.2 in C:\tmp. I don't remember having saved it there and I don't think anyone would do such a thing in my absence. I think the correct file for this must be the menus.cfg which holds these lines about this item: Add FormatMenu Menu !MakerMainMenu Add FontMenu Menu FormatMenu Add !ShowFontChoicesMenu FontMenu and then: Add SizeMenu Menu FormatMenu which is the first menu item showed in the drop-down list. Can anyone shed a ligh on this? Is there anything missing OS: XP SP2. Thanks beforehand, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Supervisor Publishing Air Atlanta Icelandic -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: GUIDES in FRAMEMAKER
Me, I am interested! :-) Bodvar On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Michael Zaichenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, just finished scripting GUIDES in FrameMaker. I.e. rules, just like you have in InDesign or Illustrator. I know Frame was missing this option ever since it appeared and it's been a situation for me ever since. Not anymore. If someone is interested, let me know. Some had it on their wishlist for next release of FrameMaker... Michael _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: ON-SCREEN GUIDES
Carol, On this list attachements are stripped off the messages. You would have to send it directly to someone on the list or jing a snapshot of it (see http://www.jingproject.com/) and insert the link. I think a sample is need for a compact answer. Bodvar On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Schreer, Carol x23174 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello out there in FM land, I have a question about removing a frame/column where a chapter TOC one was on the first page in a file. Want to keep the header at the top of the page but have the body text expand across the page to the right side. The left margin is correct as is. See the attached example. Thanks for any help! Carol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Voyles Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:13 AM To: FrameUsers Users Subject: RE: ON-SCREEN GUIDES Hi Michael, I've never bothered with guides in Frame. I use the Object Properties and specify the top and left values. Glenn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Zaichenko Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 01:51 To: FrameUsers Users Subject: ON-SCREEN GUIDES Hello there, does anyone know of a utility that would put guides on my screen. To explain: Frame doesn't have any guides and at times it's needed. Any advanced software - Photoshop, Indesign, etc. has rules (or guides) which you can just drag around and place wherever you need and align your objects accordingly. Not so with Frame. So I thought maybe there is some on-screen guides utility that I can use. I know, I know - grid lines, snapping, aligning, etc. are all to my discretion. However i'm doing a specific graphic work and all i need is guides. Ideas? Michael _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussour ce=wlmailtagline ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/glenn.voyles%40mitch ell.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/carol.schreer%40broa dridge.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
SOLVED: Re: Menu item Fonts lost in Format drop down menu
Sorry, all. I forgot that I had set Klaus Müller's handy itl Script RemoveFontMenu to autoinstall months ago at which time the font menu was bugging me. Silly me! :-( Bodvar On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FM 7.2 no longer shows the Font menu item in Format. I have checked various files, and, oddly enough I found an almost complete duplicate of FrameMaker 7.2 in C:\tmp. I don't remember having saved it there and I don't think anyone would do such a thing in my absence. I think the correct file for this must be the menus.cfg which holds these lines about this item: Add FormatMenu Menu !MakerMainMenu Add FontMenu Menu FormatMenu Add !ShowFontChoicesMenu FontMenu and then: Add SizeMenu Menu FormatMenu which is the first menu item showed in the drop-down list. Can anyone shed a ligh on this? Is there anything missing OS: XP SP2. Thanks beforehand, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Supervisor Publishing Air Atlanta Icelandic -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: SOLVED: Re: Menu item Fonts lost in Format drop down menu
LOL! On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahhh, well, we all have had these little lapses in memory. At least it wasn't as bad as forgetting to plug-in the computer before you called the help desk. mea culpa. Scott At 1:11 PM + 8/19/08, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: Sorry, all. I forgot that I had set Klaus Müller's handy itl Script RemoveFontMenu to autoinstall months ago at which time the font menu was bugging me. Silly me! :-( Bodvar On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FM 7.2 no longer shows the Font menu item in Format. I have checked various files, and, oddly enough I found an almost complete duplicate of FrameMaker 7.2 in C:\tmp. I don't remember having saved it there and I don't think anyone would do such a thing in my absence. I think the correct file for this must be the menus.cfg which holds these lines about this item: Add FormatMenu Menu !MakerMainMenu Add FontMenu Menu FormatMenu Add !ShowFontChoicesMenu FontMenu and then: Add SizeMenu Menu FormatMenu which is the first menu item showed in the drop-down list. Can anyone shed a ligh on this? Is there anything missing OS: XP SP2. Thanks beforehand, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Supervisor Publishing Air Atlanta Icelandic -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Migrating features over to InDesign
Thanks. Very helpful, indeed. Bodvar On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Paul Findon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Framers, Following the recent discussion of FM features migrating to InDesign, here's a snippet from an interview between Adobe Co-Chairman John Warnock and Conrad Taylor, BCS Electronic Publishing Specialist Group in 2004. Paul Interviewer: Adobe has found itself in the situation of owning three page make-up systems: PageMaker, InDesign and FrameMaker. I'm not counting Illustrator for these purposes. When one starts to think about Adobe getting involved in document composition issues, it's time to pull out the flipchart and brainstorm about what are the important aspects of document composition to support; which direction to go. Those of us who use these tools often look around at other software: 3B2 does this, Xyvision does this, Quark does this; wouldn't it be nice to put them all in the blender, so to speak, and extract one ideal application. Warnock: Well, that's a complicated problem. And there's a fair bit of disagreement inside of Adobe as to what the appropriate thing is to do. PageMaker as a codebase was just very long in the tooth: it was not a maintainable codebase. It was clear when we acquired it that it was not going to last for very long. Too much spaghetti-code: very difficult. InDesign had just started as a project when we acquired Aldus, and we continued with a very strong group of people: Robert Brainsea and Zak Williamson, and a very strong group of people who built the architecture for InDesign. But they were coming at it from a very 'let's go build magazines' kind of perspective. Then there was the other set of the world that works with highly structured documents, and the FrameMaker world. And I absolutely love FrameMaker; I've been a very strong proponent of FrameMaker. But FrameMaker was also suffering from an old codebase. Essentially, the idea is to start migrating features over to InDesign. Unfortunately, the InDesign crowd doesn't understand the structured document world as well as they need to, and so that migration has been coming along more slowly than I would have liked it to have been. Interviewer: Some of the pagination issues, and table-handling… Warnock: Yes, and cross-referencing, and forward-referencing, and all the things about dealing with highly structured documents. I'm a structured-document person: I like them! Interviewer: You're in good company here! I've been using FrameMaker for Macintosh since version 2.1. And now I shall be using Frame 7.0 on the Mac under Classic mode – for the rest of time, perhaps. Warnock: Well hopefully someday there will be a version of InDesign that will have the same properties. And to InDesign's credit, there are people who have done math plug-ins and have started to get the more arcane things into InDesign. But they haven't fundamentally solved the structure problem. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Recommendation for PDF to HTML converter?
I don't know much about the Mac, but googling pdf to html mac os x gives bout 24,300 results including some Mac forums where, I believe, you get the best help. Bodvar On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Anne Urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello framers, Can anyone recommend a PDF to HTML converter? I've tried pdftohtml from SourceForge, and I've tried Adobe Acrobat 7 Standard on the Mac. That one does a pretty good job, except that I get bad bullets. Thanks. Regards, -Anne Urban ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ANN: Job seeking
Hi fellow framers, As so many other people in Iceland, and around the world for that matter, my company is struggling and has made many layoffs recently. Friday last I was one of the unlucky (or maybe lucky?) to be laid off, but in my case, I have 6 months notice rights (which is good if the company survives that long, which is not all that certain). So I will be up for any odd jobs that can be worked on overseas. I have a couple of times done overseas jobs from home, so that should not be a problem. I will, of course, be applying for a job locally, but there are almost no companies in Iceland that are using FrameMaker, so my FM knowledge might not be such an advance here. I hope you will forgive me if you find me misusing the list, sending this message, but I think it is at least useful for us all to see how the job market is from time to time. (Please don't send any condolences -- this is not the end of the world -- yet!) Best regards, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Iceland http://www.linkedin.com/in/bodvarbjorgvinsson ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: ANN: Job seeking
Thanks for the kind words and reminder, Jeremy. Regards, Bodvar On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- snipped -- Yes, the tech sector here has been hard hit too, with major layoffs at Sun and at numerous other tech companies. It doesn't look as bad as the dot-bomb of 2000 yet, but we're nowhere near the bottom... -- snipped -- OTOH, you have something to offer the poor folks who don't use Frame that they don't even know they need. ;-) It's a chance to show them The Way. bg We'd like to remind you, and anyone else here in a similar position, that Mif2Go is free for life to unemployed tech writers and underemployed consultants (you know who you are), as well as all academics (students, faculty, and staff). We've had this policy for many years, and a few thousand people have taken us up on it. We do not ask for any proof of status; we trust our customers, whether free or paid. Just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with subject Mif2Go (no quotes), with your name and email address, and we'll send you a password. The only email you'll ever get from us as a result is announcements of upgrades, all of which are free to you. And we'd like to thank our many paying customers, both individual and corporate, for making this possible! -- snipped -- I think it's entirely appropriate, considering the current world economic situation. -- snipped -- The end of one world may be the beginning of a better one. The caterpillar passes on, to become a butterfly. We shall see... ;-) -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PDF-ing FM files under SVN
I don't seem to find any list committed to working with FM under SVN or TortoiseSVN, so I will try and put the problem up here. I am testing SVN. My IT has set up a dedicated SVN server and also they set up a local SVN Working Copy and I am starting a real test. What I am wondering about is what would be the best procedure when printing to file and PDF-ing. These, and some other files, IMO, don't have any business being uploaded to the repository. Do you try to print/save those files to a place outside the SVN library or just try not to upload them by accident? Bodvar Bjorgvinsson -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
[Somewhat OT]: SVK question
Has anyone on the list used SVK ( http://svk.bestpractical.com/view/HomePage ) (built on SVN). It seems to overcome some limitations of SVN. Are there any downsides to it other than Chinese English? QUOTE svk is a decentralized version control system built with the robust Subversion filesystem. It supports repository mirroring, disconnected operation, history-sensitive merging, and integrates with other version control systems, as well as popular visual merge tools. UNQUOTE It seems to allow for multiple repositories that can work together to some extent. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Iceland -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF-ing FM files under SVN
I would like to say thanks to Fei Min Lorente and Scott for very helpful answers. Bodvar 2008/12/15 qui...@airmail.net: We use TortiseSVN and FrameMaker. The only files sent to the repository are the source FM files, the graphic files, and the PDF file. All others, (*.backup, PS files, etc.) are not included. Scott At 12:27 PM + 12/15/08, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: I don't seem to find any list committed to working with FM under SVN or TortoiseSVN, so I will try and put the problem up here. I am testing SVN. My IT has set up a dedicated SVN server and also they set up a local SVN Working Copy and I am starting a real test. What I am wondering about is what would be the best procedure when printing to file and PDF-ing. These, and some other files, IMO, don't have any business being uploaded to the repository. Do you try to print/save those files to a place outside the SVN library or just try not to upload them by accident? Bodvar Bjorgvinsson -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
SVN creates a huge db
I was doing my first real testing on SVN (TortoiseSVN) yesterday. I have been issued a meager 8GB space on a server (Windows 2003 Server) shared with another kind of database. I had cleaned up a set of my largest manual consisting of a several hundred files after deletion of all files except the main fm and book files and a few graphic files, all in all 250MB of files. These I uploaded to a new repository and imported it into the database where it seemed to add a lot of files fast, until, ending on the 'db\transactions\4-1.txn\rev', which apparently froze. After more than half an hour, suddenly the size sprang from some 5GB to more than 7GB and left me with the message: 'There is not enough space on the disk.' I have googled and searched some of the SVN related users lists and have not seen any explanation to this. This seems too bloated to be normal IMHO. Can anyone on the list help me or explain this to me? Thanks beforehand, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson, Supervisor Publishing, Flight Ops, Air Atlanta Icelandic. -- It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
