[Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 dependencies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Raphael Ritz wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: I seem to remember the plan was to target Plone 4 for CMF 2.2 and Zope 2.11, but as you can see below that does not appear to be possible. So that means Zope 2.12 instead, right? Do we have an estimate of what that implies on our side? Generally speaking, I'm a bit uncomfortable with jumping from Zope 2.10.x to 2.12.x as this will reduce the chances of reacting to deprecation warnings which is of particular importance for all our add-on developers. I'm afraid we'll see lots of broken add-ons without prior warnings. If there is nothing we can do about this (and it seems so) we could still consider to have Plone 3.x move to Zope 2.11 with 3.4 or 3.5. Just thinking out loud (and without knowing myself how much differences there are between Zope 2.10 and 12 that do affect us) ... An outsider's take: I would strongly urge that a release-by-year-end Plone4 use Zope 2.12. There is no compelling technical reason to hold off, and plenty of time to test and iron out any issues. Staying up-to-date gets you a migration path to a Python version (2.6) which will be supported for a reasonable time frame (2.4 is effectively out of support now; 2.5 is at the end of its support life). It will also allow Plone to use the fully eggified Zope, and rip out lots of workarounds (fake eggs, anyone). Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKHaD0+gerLs4ltQ4RAphjAKCrWddVIMNgM1E9kLQfb8xe7lMdsgCgivEI QbaGWkFEAB44GxB43EN05hM= =goDC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 dependencies
On 26 May 2009, at 10:59, Hanno Schlichting wrote: I think someone has to try and see what kind of changes are acutally required to make a current Plone 3.3rc3 run on Zope 2.12 or even better a real client side with a collection of add-ons. I doubt it's very hard, a concerted effort by me and Sidnei at the last Summer of Code summit left us with Plone trunk working on Zope trunk, and that was only a few weeks after the conference. Zope really was where most of the changes needed to be, I do think targeting 4.0 to Zope 2.12 is feasible and proper. Matt ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 dependencies
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 22:47, Matthew Wilkes matt...@matthewwilkes.co.ukwrote: On 26 May 2009, at 10:59, Hanno Schlichting wrote: I think someone has to try and see what kind of changes are acutally required to make a current Plone 3.3rc3 run on Zope 2.12 or even better a real client side with a collection of add-ons. I doubt it's very hard, a concerted effort by me and Sidnei at the last Summer of Code summit left us with Plone trunk working on Zope trunk, and that was only a few weeks after the conference. Zope really was where most of the changes needed to be, I do think targeting 4.0 to Zope 2.12 is feasible and proper. +1 Andreas ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team