Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing

2011-12-22 Thread Ekrem Serdar
Hey Tarık (and all)

The Noyans send their films off to Andec, and I'm pretty sure they focus on
Super 8. Though they certainly are the folk for the latter if you're in the
area,

Hörmetlerimle :)

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On Dec 22, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Tarık Aktaş trq1...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Pablo,
I don't know if they are still in the business. But the website is on so
you might check.
Yes, its in Istanbul Turkey.
http://www.noyan-noyan.com/Hizmetler.html

Nive day

tarik

2011/12/21 Pablo Marin pamari...@yahoo.com

 Hey,

 an old question returns: is there any other place to process Fuji Single 8
 than Retro Enterprises (Japan)?

 I´m interested in knowing if Fuji Japan still process this format. any
 leads?

 best to all,
 pablo
 (buenos aires)


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Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing

2011-12-22 Thread Tarık Aktaş
Hi Pablo,
I hope that will help.

PS : Maksat arkadaşın işi görülsün :)


22 Aralık 2011 14:14 tarihinde Ekrem Serdar ekremser...@gmail.com yazdı:

 Hey Tarık (and all)

 The Noyans send their films off to Andec, and I'm pretty sure they focus
 on Super 8. Though they certainly are the folk for the latter if you're in
 the area,

 Hörmetlerimle :)

 --
 ekrem serdar
 austin, tx

 On Dec 22, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Tarık Aktaş trq1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Pablo,
 I don't know if they are still in the business. But the website is on so
 you might check.
 Yes, its in Istanbul Turkey.
 http://www.noyan-noyan.com/Hizmetler.html

 Nive day

 tarik

 2011/12/21 Pablo Marin pamari...@yahoo.com

 Hey,

 an old question returns: is there any other place to process Fuji Single
 8 than Retro Enterprises (Japan)?

 I´m interested in knowing if Fuji Japan still process this format. any
 leads?

 best to all,
 pablo
 (buenos aires)


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Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing

2011-12-22 Thread Pablo Marin
Thanks Tarık, Ekrem,
their website only list Super 8, but I will check it out.
I also heard that Labor Berlin handprocess Fuji Single 8... but I'm trying to 
find some place more professional/industrial (if any).
best,pablo.
 

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Date: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 11:48 AM

Hi Pablo,I hope that will help. PS : Maksat arkadaşın işi görülsün :)

22 Aralık 2011 14:14 tarihinde Ekrem Serdar ekremser...@gmail.com yazdı:

Hey Tarık (and all)
The Noyans send their films off to Andec, and I'm pretty sure they focus on 
Super 8. Though they certainly are the folk for the latter if you're in the 
area,


Hörmetlerimle :)

--ekrem serdaraustin, tx
On Dec 22, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Tarık Aktaş trq1...@gmail.com wrote:



Hi Pablo,I don't know if they are still in the business. But the website is on 
so you might check.Yes, its in Istanbul Turkey.
http://www.noyan-noyan.com/Hizmetler.html 




Nive day
tarik

2011/12/21 Pablo Marin pamari...@yahoo.com



Hey,
an old question returns: is there any other place to process Fuji Single 8 than 
Retro Enterprises (Japan)?



I´m interested in knowing if Fuji Japan still process this format. any leads?
best to all,pablo(buenos aires)




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Re: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Workshop Public Meeting_Tuesday December 20th, 7:30pm

2011-12-22 Thread Lars Fuchs
Any report from the meeting? Did anyone go? Very curious!

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Stephanie Wuertz wuertzstepha...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear All,

 This Tuesday, December 20th at 7:30pm there will be a public meeting at
 the Millennium Film Workshop to discuss the future of the organization's
 current residence at 66 E 4th St, which Millennium currently rents from La
 MaMa and owes back rent to. The meeting will focus on the talks that have
 occurred in the past weeks between Millenium's board members and La MaMa's,
 in which a potential solution to the debt has been raised, along with the
 type of help and support the organization will need from its members and
 the film community moving forward. If you can't attend please feel free to
 contact me or Jay Hudson for further information.

 Best,

 Stephanie Wuertz

 Millennium Film Workshop
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 7:30pm

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Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing

2011-12-22 Thread Ed Inman
Any lab that can process 16mm can process standard 8mm. Just get a 16mm to 8mm film slitter  slice the two ends together when you get it back:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Al-Spoil-film-slitter-cut-any-film-down-any-size-/160703420942Ed-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing

ThanksTarık,Ekrem,their website only list Super 8, but I will check it out.I also heard that Labor Berlin handprocess Fuji Single 8... but I'm trying to find some place more professional/industrial (if any).best,pablo.--- On Thu, 12/22/11, Tarık Aktaş trq1...@gmail.com wrote:From: Tarık Aktaş trq1...@gmail.comSubject: Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processingTo: "Experimental Film Discussion List" frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.comDate: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 11:48 AMHi Pablo,I hope that will
 help.PS : Maksat arkadaşın işi görülsün :)22 Aralık 2011 14:14 tarihinde Ekrem Serdar ekremser...@gmail.com yazdı:
Hey Tarık (and all)The Noyans send their films off to Andec, and I'm pretty sure they focus on Super 8. Though they certainly are the folk for the latter if you're in the area,

Hörmetlerimle :)--ekrem serdaraustin, txOn Dec 22, 2011, at 12:47 PM, "Tarık Aktaş" trq1...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Pablo,I don't know if they are still in the business. But the website is on so you might check.Yes, its in Istanbul Turkey.http://www.noyan-noyan.com/Hizmetler.html


Nive daytarik2011/12/21 Pablo Marin pamari...@yahoo.com


Hey,an old question returns: is there any other place to process Fuji Single 8 than Retro Enterprises (Japan)?


I´m interested in knowing if Fuji Japan still process this format. any leads?best to all,pablo(buenos aires)


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Re: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Workshop Public Meeting_Tuesday December 20th, 7:30pm

2011-12-22 Thread Stephanie Wuertz
Sorry that was only meant for Lars! yikes.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Stephanie Wuertz 
wuertzstepha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Lars,

 I've attached notes from the meeting that happened Tuesday. We are still
 working on it, but it will be posted to Frameworks and emailed to the
 members soon. There will also be a couple of announcements coming up in the
 next weeks for a cleaning day, a sale of various items, and a screening of
 Millennium's orphan films. Please look it over and let me know if you have
 any questions.

 Best,
 Stephanie

 On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Lars Fuchs edi...@klipper.tv wrote:

 Any report from the meeting? Did anyone go? Very curious!

 On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Stephanie Wuertz 
 wuertzstepha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 This Tuesday, December 20th at 7:30pm there will be a public meeting at
 the Millennium Film Workshop to discuss the future of the organization's
 current residence at 66 E 4th St, which Millennium currently rents from La
 MaMa and owes back rent to. The meeting will focus on the talks that
 have occurred in the past weeks between Millenium's board members and La
 MaMa's, in which a potential solution to the debt has been raised, along
 with the type of help and support the organization will need from its
 members and the film community moving forward. If you can't attend please
 feel free to contact me or Jay Hudson for further information.

 Best,

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Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing

2011-12-22 Thread Steven Gladstone
On 12/22/11 11:01 AM, Pablo Marin wrote:
 Thanks Ed,

 but I'm referring to Single 8 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-8

Isn't Single 8 the same format as Super 8, just packaged differently?


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Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing

2011-12-22 Thread Pablo Marin
not quite:

It has a polyester base that is thinner than the Kodak films, so splicing the 
two formats together in a finished film may require adjustment of the 
projector's focus at the join.
Fuji's Single-8 developing process is not the same as Process EM-26, but 
close. There is more involved in the removal of the remjet antihalation backing 
than the now long discontinued KodakEktachrome Process EM-26 films. The color 
chemistry while close, is a bit different, particularly the Color Developer. 

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From: Steven Gladstone ste...@gladstonefilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Date: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 2:32 PM

On 12/22/11 11:01 AM, Pablo Marin wrote:
 Thanks Ed,

 but I'm referring to Single 8 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-8

Isn't Single 8 the same format as Super 8, just packaged differently?


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[Frameworks] Super 8 digitized and flagged at avi.18fps

2011-12-22 Thread Kevin Timmins

Hi, I just got my digitized super 8 footage back from blue cine tech set at 
.avi flagget 18fps. I need to edit it in a timeline at 25fps to match my DV 
footage. So I need to run it through compressor and change the frame rate. I 
was wondering what's the best codec to use? In the info of the super 8 mov file 
it says DV so should I use the DV-PAL codec in compressor or another? I hear 
the apple pro res 442 is it? Is another good possibility. I want it to be as 
close as possible to the footage they sent back. All I need to do is change the 
frame rate. I'll have to mince the whole project back through compressor again 
when it's all finished and edited for export to the web at H.264. 
Thanks in advance for any suggestions! Really appreciate any help!Kevin 
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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 digitized and flagged at avi.18fps

2011-12-22 Thread Kevin Timmins

Brilliant! Thanks a bunch! 
Kev

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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 digitized and flagged at avi.18fps


Hi Kevin,



I would use ProRES HQ.   Although the source material is in DV, you will find, 
surprisingly enough, that although ProRES can’t “improve” the image that is 
already there, it actually does make the image look better,  by not requiring 
it to be compressed over and over and over again on all your steps – thus not 
having a soft image throughout all your steps.   Alternatively I would convert 
it to uncompressed if you’d rather, SD files are pretty small, so uncompressed 
might be your best bet. 



Either PRORES or Uncompressed will let you edit natively then export to 
whatever you’d like.  The benefit with going to one of these is that any 
effects you add (cropping, colour correction) will be applied using a less 
lossey codec and improve the way the correction is applied to the image. 



Good luck,





Deco











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Hi, I just got my digitized super 8 footage back from blue cine tech set at 
.avi flagget 18fps. I need to edit it in a timeline at 25fps to match my DV 
footage. So I need to run it through compressor and change the frame rate. I 
was wondering what's the best codec to use? In the info of the super 8 mov file 
it says DV so should I use the DV-PAL codec in compressor or another? I hear 
the apple pro res 442 is it? Is another good possibility. I want it to be as 
close as possible to the footage they sent back. All I need to do is change the 
frame rate. I'll have to mince the whole project back through compressor again 
when it's all finished and edited for export to the web at H.264. 



Thanks in advance for any suggestions! Really appreciate any help!

Kevin

   



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Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing

2011-12-22 Thread Pablo Marin
cool, those are great!
best.

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To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Date: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 6:58 PM

On 12/22/11 11:56 AM, Pablo Marin wrote:
 not quite:

Got you, same format, but film construction packaging and develop 
process are different.

I've an old Wittenauer twin that will take either Super 8 or if you 
switch the back, it will take Single 8.

:-)


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