Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing
Hey Tarık (and all) The Noyans send their films off to Andec, and I'm pretty sure they focus on Super 8. Though they certainly are the folk for the latter if you're in the area, Hörmetlerimle :) -- ekrem serdar austin, tx On Dec 22, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Tarık Aktaş trq1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pablo, I don't know if they are still in the business. But the website is on so you might check. Yes, its in Istanbul Turkey. http://www.noyan-noyan.com/Hizmetler.html Nive day tarik 2011/12/21 Pablo Marin pamari...@yahoo.com Hey, an old question returns: is there any other place to process Fuji Single 8 than Retro Enterprises (Japan)? I´m interested in knowing if Fuji Japan still process this format. any leads? best to all, pablo (buenos aires) ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing
Hi Pablo, I hope that will help. PS : Maksat arkadaşın işi görülsün :) 22 Aralık 2011 14:14 tarihinde Ekrem Serdar ekremser...@gmail.com yazdı: Hey Tarık (and all) The Noyans send their films off to Andec, and I'm pretty sure they focus on Super 8. Though they certainly are the folk for the latter if you're in the area, Hörmetlerimle :) -- ekrem serdar austin, tx On Dec 22, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Tarık Aktaş trq1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pablo, I don't know if they are still in the business. But the website is on so you might check. Yes, its in Istanbul Turkey. http://www.noyan-noyan.com/Hizmetler.html Nive day tarik 2011/12/21 Pablo Marin pamari...@yahoo.com Hey, an old question returns: is there any other place to process Fuji Single 8 than Retro Enterprises (Japan)? I´m interested in knowing if Fuji Japan still process this format. any leads? best to all, pablo (buenos aires) ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing
Thanks Tarık, Ekrem, their website only list Super 8, but I will check it out. I also heard that Labor Berlin handprocess Fuji Single 8... but I'm trying to find some place more professional/industrial (if any). best,pablo. --- On Thu, 12/22/11, Tarık Aktaş trq1...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tarık Aktaş trq1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Date: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 11:48 AM Hi Pablo,I hope that will help. PS : Maksat arkadaşın işi görülsün :) 22 Aralık 2011 14:14 tarihinde Ekrem Serdar ekremser...@gmail.com yazdı: Hey Tarık (and all) The Noyans send their films off to Andec, and I'm pretty sure they focus on Super 8. Though they certainly are the folk for the latter if you're in the area, Hörmetlerimle :) --ekrem serdaraustin, tx On Dec 22, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Tarık Aktaş trq1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pablo,I don't know if they are still in the business. But the website is on so you might check.Yes, its in Istanbul Turkey. http://www.noyan-noyan.com/Hizmetler.html Nive day tarik 2011/12/21 Pablo Marin pamari...@yahoo.com Hey, an old question returns: is there any other place to process Fuji Single 8 than Retro Enterprises (Japan)? I´m interested in knowing if Fuji Japan still process this format. any leads? best to all,pablo(buenos aires) ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Workshop Public Meeting_Tuesday December 20th, 7:30pm
Any report from the meeting? Did anyone go? Very curious! On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Stephanie Wuertz wuertzstepha...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, This Tuesday, December 20th at 7:30pm there will be a public meeting at the Millennium Film Workshop to discuss the future of the organization's current residence at 66 E 4th St, which Millennium currently rents from La MaMa and owes back rent to. The meeting will focus on the talks that have occurred in the past weeks between Millenium's board members and La MaMa's, in which a potential solution to the debt has been raised, along with the type of help and support the organization will need from its members and the film community moving forward. If you can't attend please feel free to contact me or Jay Hudson for further information. Best, Stephanie Wuertz Millennium Film Workshop 66 E 4th, between 2nd and Bowery 7:30pm ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- *Honk! If you like funny. http://www.honkthemovie.com/* * * edi...@klipper.tv (347) 469-1964 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing
Any lab that can process 16mm can process standard 8mm. Just get a 16mm to 8mm film slitter slice the two ends together when you get it back: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Al-Spoil-film-slitter-cut-any-film-down-any-size-/160703420942Ed-Original Message- From: Pablo MarinSent: Dec 22, 2011 8:00 AM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing ThanksTarık,Ekrem,their website only list Super 8, but I will check it out.I also heard that Labor Berlin handprocess Fuji Single 8... but I'm trying to find some place more professional/industrial (if any).best,pablo.--- On Thu, 12/22/11, Tarık Aktaş trq1...@gmail.com wrote:From: Tarık Aktaş trq1...@gmail.comSubject: Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processingTo: "Experimental Film Discussion List" frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.comDate: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 11:48 AMHi Pablo,I hope that will help.PS : Maksat arkadaşın işi görülsün :)22 Aralık 2011 14:14 tarihinde Ekrem Serdar ekremser...@gmail.com yazdı: Hey Tarık (and all)The Noyans send their films off to Andec, and I'm pretty sure they focus on Super 8. Though they certainly are the folk for the latter if you're in the area, Hörmetlerimle :)--ekrem serdaraustin, txOn Dec 22, 2011, at 12:47 PM, "Tarık Aktaş" trq1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pablo,I don't know if they are still in the business. But the website is on so you might check.Yes, its in Istanbul Turkey.http://www.noyan-noyan.com/Hizmetler.html Nive daytarik2011/12/21 Pablo Marin pamari...@yahoo.com Hey,an old question returns: is there any other place to process Fuji Single 8 than Retro Enterprises (Japan)? I´m interested in knowing if Fuji Japan still process this format. any leads?best to all,pablo(buenos aires) ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___FrameWorks mailing listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -Inline Attachment Follows-___FrameWorks mailing listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Workshop Public Meeting_Tuesday December 20th, 7:30pm
Sorry that was only meant for Lars! yikes. On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Stephanie Wuertz wuertzstepha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lars, I've attached notes from the meeting that happened Tuesday. We are still working on it, but it will be posted to Frameworks and emailed to the members soon. There will also be a couple of announcements coming up in the next weeks for a cleaning day, a sale of various items, and a screening of Millennium's orphan films. Please look it over and let me know if you have any questions. Best, Stephanie On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Lars Fuchs edi...@klipper.tv wrote: Any report from the meeting? Did anyone go? Very curious! On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Stephanie Wuertz wuertzstepha...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, This Tuesday, December 20th at 7:30pm there will be a public meeting at the Millennium Film Workshop to discuss the future of the organization's current residence at 66 E 4th St, which Millennium currently rents from La MaMa and owes back rent to. The meeting will focus on the talks that have occurred in the past weeks between Millenium's board members and La MaMa's, in which a potential solution to the debt has been raised, along with the type of help and support the organization will need from its members and the film community moving forward. If you can't attend please feel free to contact me or Jay Hudson for further information. Best, Stephanie Wuertz Millennium Film Workshop 66 E 4th, between 2nd and Bowery 7:30pm ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- *Honk! If you like funny. http://www.honkthemovie.com/* * * edi...@klipper.tv (347) 469-1964 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing
On 12/22/11 11:01 AM, Pablo Marin wrote: Thanks Ed, but I'm referring to Single 8 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-8 Isn't Single 8 the same format as Super 8, just packaged differently? -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing
not quite: It has a polyester base that is thinner than the Kodak films, so splicing the two formats together in a finished film may require adjustment of the projector's focus at the join. Fuji's Single-8 developing process is not the same as Process EM-26, but close. There is more involved in the removal of the remjet antihalation backing than the now long discontinued KodakEktachrome Process EM-26 films. The color chemistry while close, is a bit different, particularly the Color Developer. --- On Thu, 12/22/11, Steven Gladstone ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote: From: Steven Gladstone ste...@gladstonefilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Date: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 2:32 PM On 12/22/11 11:01 AM, Pablo Marin wrote: Thanks Ed, but I'm referring to Single 8 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-8 Isn't Single 8 the same format as Super 8, just packaged differently? -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Super 8 digitized and flagged at avi.18fps
Hi, I just got my digitized super 8 footage back from blue cine tech set at .avi flagget 18fps. I need to edit it in a timeline at 25fps to match my DV footage. So I need to run it through compressor and change the frame rate. I was wondering what's the best codec to use? In the info of the super 8 mov file it says DV so should I use the DV-PAL codec in compressor or another? I hear the apple pro res 442 is it? Is another good possibility. I want it to be as close as possible to the footage they sent back. All I need to do is change the frame rate. I'll have to mince the whole project back through compressor again when it's all finished and edited for export to the web at H.264. Thanks in advance for any suggestions! Really appreciate any help!Kevin ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 digitized and flagged at avi.18fps
Brilliant! Thanks a bunch! Kev Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:43:13 -0600 From: decodaw...@shaw.ca To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 digitized and flagged at avi.18fps Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 digitized and flagged at avi.18fps Hi Kevin, I would use ProRES HQ. Although the source material is in DV, you will find, surprisingly enough, that although ProRES can’t “improve” the image that is already there, it actually does make the image look better, by not requiring it to be compressed over and over and over again on all your steps – thus not having a soft image throughout all your steps. Alternatively I would convert it to uncompressed if you’d rather, SD files are pretty small, so uncompressed might be your best bet. Either PRORES or Uncompressed will let you edit natively then export to whatever you’d like. The benefit with going to one of these is that any effects you add (cropping, colour correction) will be applied using a less lossey codec and improve the way the correction is applied to the image. Good luck, Deco On 12/22/11 4:31 PM, Kevin Timmins on-on...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I just got my digitized super 8 footage back from blue cine tech set at .avi flagget 18fps. I need to edit it in a timeline at 25fps to match my DV footage. So I need to run it through compressor and change the frame rate. I was wondering what's the best codec to use? In the info of the super 8 mov file it says DV so should I use the DV-PAL codec in compressor or another? I hear the apple pro res 442 is it? Is another good possibility. I want it to be as close as possible to the footage they sent back. All I need to do is change the frame rate. I'll have to mince the whole project back through compressor again when it's all finished and edited for export to the web at H.264. Thanks in advance for any suggestions! Really appreciate any help! Kevin ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks www.decodawson.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing
cool, those are great! best. --- On Thu, 12/22/11, Steven Gladstone ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote: From: Steven Gladstone ste...@gladstonefilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Date: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 6:58 PM On 12/22/11 11:56 AM, Pablo Marin wrote: not quite: Got you, same format, but film construction packaging and develop process are different. I've an old Wittenauer twin that will take either Super 8 or if you switch the back, it will take Single 8. :-) -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks