Re: [Frameworks] Experimental + Documentary Apps
There's a terrible one for Android called AR Effect. Nicky. -Original Message- From: Shane Eason shaneea...@yahoo.ca To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 23:22 Subject: [Frameworks] Experimental + Documentary Apps H-e-l-l-o...E-v-e-r-y-o-n-e... I’m conducting some preliminary research on Experimental and Documentary apps (individual and collective) for Android, iOS, and other platforms such as PS4 (Orbis OS), Xbox One (Windows 8 Partition; upgrade to Windows 10 upcoming) and Linux. I know of a few, but does anyone have additional info on other apps? Or, whom may have one in development? Further, I'm curious as to how some of you view apps (mobile, live, or web) as both form and as tributary for content. I’m far more savvy with Apple and iOS, but here’s what I’ve collected so far, aside from the regular corporate stuff like Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, et cetera, et cetera... Documentary Film/Media/Sound: Fandor, The Doc Blog, PBS POV, NFB, Docurama, Sundance Now, Documentary.net, CodeBarre.tv Experimental Film/Media/Sound: Michael Betancourt, ATA, Energy Flow, Miranda July Muy apreciado, -Shane __ Shane Christian Eason, MFA Asst. Prof. of Exp. Doc. Film | Multimedia Production Coordinator | MFA MTE Director School of Communication Multimedia Studies, Florida Atlantic University Miami/Fort Lauderdale | www.blackironfilms.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Experimental + Documentary Apps
Paul Turano's Wander Wonder Wilderness http://www.wanderurbanwilds.com/ project, which is currently raising funds on Kickstarter On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 8:15 AM, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote: There's a terrible one for Android called AR Effect. Nicky. -Original Message- From: Shane Eason shaneea...@yahoo.ca To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 23:22 Subject: [Frameworks] Experimental + Documentary Apps H-e-l-l-o...E-v-e-r-y-o-n-e... I’m conducting some preliminary research on Experimental and Documentary apps (individual and collective) for Android, iOS, and other platforms such as PS4 (Orbis OS), Xbox One (Windows 8 Partition; upgrade to Windows 10 upcoming) and Linux. I know of a few, but does anyone have additional info on other apps? Or, whom may have one in development? Further, I'm curious as to how some of you view apps (mobile, live, or web) as both form and as tributary for content. I’m far more savvy with Apple and iOS, but here’s what I’ve collected so far, aside from the regular corporate stuff like Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, et cetera, et cetera... Documentary Film/Media/Sound: Fandor, The Doc Blog, PBS POV, NFB, Docurama, Sundance Now, Documentary.net, CodeBarre.tv Experimental Film/Media/Sound: Michael Betancourt, ATA, Energy Flow, Miranda July Muy apreciado, -Shane __ Shane Christian Eason, MFA Asst. Prof. of Exp. Doc. Film | Multimedia Production Coordinator | MFA MTE Director School of Communication Multimedia Studies, Florida Atlantic University Miami/Fort Lauderdale | www.blackironfilms.com ___ FrameWorks mailing listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Experimental + Documentary Apps
Hello, I've been nursing a computational documentary app for ages based around footage in SE Louisiana 2001-07. Strictly prototype and mostly academic. Write off list if you want a precis. I have literature and opinions. Also, check out pockets of development around ZKM-Karlsruhe, USC, UC-Santa-Cruz (Mateas), V2-Rotterdam, gatech (Reidl), and OpenEndedGroup, for example. But what you want is specifically small-screen? Al On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 6:21 AM, Mariya Nikiforova mar...@radonlake.com wrote: Paul Turano's Wander Wonder Wilderness http://www.wanderurbanwilds.com/ project, which is currently raising funds on Kickstarter On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 8:15 AM, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote: There's a terrible one for Android called AR Effect. Nicky. -Original Message- From: Shane Eason shaneea...@yahoo.ca To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 23:22 Subject: [Frameworks] Experimental + Documentary Apps H-e-l-l-o...E-v-e-r-y-o-n-e... I’m conducting some preliminary research on Experimental and Documentary apps (individual and collective) for Android, iOS, and other platforms such as PS4 (Orbis OS), Xbox One (Windows 8 Partition; upgrade to Windows 10 upcoming) and Linux. I know of a few, but does anyone have additional info on other apps? Or, whom may have one in development? Further, I'm curious as to how some of you view apps (mobile, live, or web) as both form and as tributary for content. I’m far more savvy with Apple and iOS, but here’s what I’ve collected so far, aside from the regular corporate stuff like Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, et cetera, et cetera... Documentary Film/Media/Sound: Fandor, The Doc Blog, PBS POV, NFB, Docurama, Sundance Now, Documentary.net, CodeBarre.tv Experimental Film/Media/Sound: Michael Betancourt, ATA, Energy Flow, Miranda July Muy apreciado, -Shane __ Shane Christian Eason, MFA Asst. Prof. of Exp. Doc. Film | Multimedia Production Coordinator | MFA MTE Director School of Communication Multimedia Studies, Florida Atlantic University Miami/Fort Lauderdale | www.blackironfilms.com ___ FrameWorks mailing listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] tableau vivante : experimental film and single frames
You may want to check out my movie The Invalids: https://vimeo.com/39200497 Thank you! Let me know what you think. Mary On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Greenaway? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92-LPtzRfTQ 2014-10-06 17:08 GMT-04:00 Rebekka Erin Moran rebekka.mo...@gmail.com: Hi, I am researching a project of the use of the Tableau Vivant in experimental or avant-garde filmmaking (history, theory, etc). I am particularly interested in any examples of filmmakers that were investigating the tableau vivant as a reference to a film frame and not to a painting. Also any sub themes that may relate to tableau vivant as a durational film frame or living freeze frame, or a tableau vivant as a non-active scene/image shot stop motion or frame by frame (in camera or optical printed). Any suggestions for readings or names would be greatly appreciated! best, Rebekka Rebekka Moran rebekka.mo...@gmail.com http://www.rebekkamoran.com tel: +345 849 5978 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- www.marybillyou.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] tableau vivante : experimental film and single frames
Did any one mention Raul Ruíz? Esp *Hypothesis of the Stolen Painting* and *Time Regained?* Cheers, Mary On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 8:55 AM, mary billyou mbill...@gmail.com wrote: You may want to check out my movie The Invalids: https://vimeo.com/39200497 Thank you! Let me know what you think. Mary On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Greenaway? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92-LPtzRfTQ 2014-10-06 17:08 GMT-04:00 Rebekka Erin Moran rebekka.mo...@gmail.com: Hi, I am researching a project of the use of the Tableau Vivant in experimental or avant-garde filmmaking (history, theory, etc). I am particularly interested in any examples of filmmakers that were investigating the tableau vivant as a reference to a film frame and not to a painting. Also any sub themes that may relate to tableau vivant as a durational film frame or living freeze frame, or a tableau vivant as a non-active scene/image shot stop motion or frame by frame (in camera or optical printed). Any suggestions for readings or names would be greatly appreciated! best, Rebekka Rebekka Moran rebekka.mo...@gmail.com http://www.rebekkamoran.com tel: +345 849 5978 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- www.marybillyou.com -- www.marybillyou.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Experimental + Documentary Apps
Further, I'm curious as to how some of you view apps (mobile, live, or web) as both form and as tributary for content. Shane, the list of products doesn't really seem to make headway into any area for discussion. Bernie On Friday, October 10, 2014 1:15 AM, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote: There's a terrible one for Android called AR Effect. Nicky. -Original Message- From: Shane Eason shaneea...@yahoo.ca To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 23:22 Subject: [Frameworks] Experimental + Documentary Apps H-e-l-l-o...E-v-e-r-y-o-n-e... I’m conducting some preliminary research on Experimental and Documentary apps (individual and collective) for Android, iOS, and other platforms such as PS4 (Orbis OS), Xbox One (Windows 8 Partition; upgrade to Windows 10 upcoming) and Linux. I know of a few, but does anyone have additional info on other apps? Or, whom may have one in development? Further, I'm curious as to how some of you view apps (mobile, live, or web) as both form and as tributary for content. I’m far more savvy with Apple and iOS, but here’s what I’ve collected so far, aside from the regular corporate stuff like Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, et cetera, et cetera... Documentary Film/Media/Sound: Fandor, The Doc Blog, PBS POV, NFB, Docurama, Sundance Now, Documentary.net, CodeBarre.tv Experimental Film/Media/Sound: Michael Betancourt, ATA, Energy Flow, Miranda July Muy apreciado, -Shane __ Shane Christian Eason, MFA Asst. Prof. of Exp. Doc. Film | Multimedia Production Coordinator | MFA MTE Director School of Communication Multimedia Studies, Florida Atlantic University Miami/Fort Lauderdale | www.blackironfilms.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Place to Crash Sat. Night in Oakland/Berkeley, CA
Any Oakland or Berkeley, California Frameworkers out there whose couch I could crash on this Saturday night? If so, please contact me as soon as possible off list. Thanks so much! Ken www.kenpaulrosenthal.com www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] contact info - Joshua Yumibe
Does anyone have contact info for Joshua Yumibe? Please contact me off-list. Thanks Michael Betancourt Savannah, GA ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films
my film Off Route 2 begins with myself hanging upside down in a car, but then the camera pulls back and reveals the film crew as i get out of the car and switch from the roll of victim to the roll of the director. I explain the next shot to the assistant director, then call cut, but the next shot that was discussed on camera is never actually filmed or shown on screen. http://www.amandadawnchristie.ca/off-route-2/ the password to view any of the preview videos on my website is: previewonly Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062 www.amandadawnchristie.ca ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca ___ On 2014-10-09, at 12:40 PM, Buck Bito - Movette wrote: Hi Suyash, Joel DeMott (and 'our own' Jeff Kreines): Demon Lover Diary (1980) ---Buck Bito Lawrence Buck Bito Movette Film Transfer 1407 Valencia St. San Francisco, CA 94110 (Valencia at 25th St.) 415-558-8815 Open Tuesday - Saturday Tue+Thu: 8-6, Wed+Fri: 9-6, Sat: 10-4 www.movettefilm.com On Wed, October 8, 2014 11:41 pm, Suyash Barve wrote: hello all, i am looking for reference titles that fall within the genre of films made on unfinished films/films coming apart/film that is being shot or in prodcution. ... thank you for your time and effort to read through this notice. looking forward to getting some responses! S ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films
in the unfinished films category has anyone mentioned Wim wenders' The State of Things? -Original Message- From: Amanda Christie Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 11:39 AM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films my film Off Route 2 begins with myself hanging upside down in a car, but then the camera pulls back and reveals the film crew as i get out of the car and switch from the roll of victim to the roll of the director. I explain the next shot to the assistant director, then call cut, but the next shot that was discussed on camera is never actually filmed or shown on screen. http://www.amandadawnchristie.ca/off-route-2/ the password to view any of the preview videos on my website is: previewonly Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062 www.amandadawnchristie.ca ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca ___ On 2014-10-09, at 12:40 PM, Buck Bito - Movette wrote: Hi Suyash, Joel DeMott (and 'our own' Jeff Kreines): Demon Lover Diary (1980) ---Buck Bito Lawrence Buck Bito Movette Film Transfer 1407 Valencia St. San Francisco, CA 94110 (Valencia at 25th St.) 415-558-8815 Open Tuesday - Saturday Tue+Thu: 8-6, Wed+Fri: 9-6, Sat: 10-4 www.movettefilm.com On Wed, October 8, 2014 11:41 pm, Suyash Barve wrote: hello all, i am looking for reference titles that fall within the genre of films made on unfinished films/films coming apart/film that is being shot or in prodcution. ... thank you for your time and effort to read through this notice. looking forward to getting some responses! S ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] looper question
hello all, i have a bit of a looper question. i've worked with them in the past, but not extensively... and this is the first time i've run into this issue. we loaded the 35mm looper on monday, and ran it for a bit on monday, tuesday, and wednesday just to get the right balance and tension... but wednesday night during the opening, it kept getting more and more slack, dipping closer to the ground... so i spent the day at the gallery yesterday, with some fabric on the floor watching it... because i was told that it was normal that it would take a couple of full days running for it to adjust to heat and humidity and find it's ideal balance... but it started getting really really slack and like spaghetti on the ground... so eventually i stopped it, and added another loop around the looper to take up the slack... it was fine for a while... but then would fluctuate extremely... with the loop dropping down to the ground, then tightening up to as tight as it would go, then back down to the ground... i was hoping it would just find it's balance... but then it got too tight up at the top at the loop box, and started to pop up above the internal vertical rollers, so i stopped it, and removed that external loop again. now, once again it is too slack like spaghetti on the floor (safely on lint free fabric though!) should i give it a few more hours to tighten up and find it's balance, or should i stop it, and wrap another loop around the outside (like i did yesterday, but that was too tight), then release a loop from the inside (so that it's not quite so tight) is this because it's an older print (only 2 years old) with a few splices and burns in it from previous exhibitions? would i be better off with a brand new print? or do i just sit tight and wait for it to find it's happy place? any advice from more experienced loopers would be much appreciated. thank so much! Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062 www.amandadawnchristie.ca ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca ___ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] looper question
You are on the right track. In my experience you want the platter as level as possible (RFS Type Platter Looper) to maintain balance. Never let the loop pull backwards and this usually results in the film binding at a point in the run (not fun). I've had instances where I have to constantly find the splice and add the slack to the outer part of the loop in order to get the sweet spot. Id suggest keep wrapping and adjust your front and rear feed (if you can) to tweak the tension right when it stops slacking. Best of luck! Karl. LIFT TECH - www.lift.ca On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Amanda Christie ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca wrote: hello all, i have a bit of a looper question. i've worked with them in the past, but not extensively... and this is the first time i've run into this issue. we loaded the 35mm looper on monday, and ran it for a bit on monday, tuesday, and wednesday just to get the right balance and tension... but wednesday night during the opening, it kept getting more and more slack, dipping closer to the ground... so i spent the day at the gallery yesterday, with some fabric on the floor watching it... because i was told that it was normal that it would take a couple of full days running for it to adjust to heat and humidity and find it's ideal balance... but it started getting really really slack and like spaghetti on the ground... so eventually i stopped it, and added another loop around the looper to take up the slack... it was fine for a while... but then would fluctuate extremely... with the loop dropping down to the ground, then tightening up to as tight as it would go, then back down to the ground... i was hoping it would just find it's balance... but then it got too tight up at the top at the loop box, and started to pop up above the internal vertical rollers, so i stopped it, and removed that external loop again. now, once again it is too slack like spaghetti on the floor (safely on lint free fabric though!) should i give it a few more hours to tighten up and find it's balance, or should i stop it, and wrap another loop around the outside (like i did yesterday, but that was too tight), then release a loop from the inside (so that it's not quite so tight) is this because it's an older print (only 2 years old) with a few splices and burns in it from previous exhibitions? would i be better off with a brand new print? or do i just sit tight and wait for it to find it's happy place? any advice from more experienced loopers would be much appreciated. thank so much! Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062 www.amandadawnchristie.ca ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca ___ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- -- Karl Reinsalu e.mail: kreins...@gmail.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] looper question
Thanks Karl! to clarify... am i on the right track... to keep waiting... or to keep adjusting? the spaghetti dance on the floor pains me to watch... i want to grab a ladder and wrap another loop around the outside... , but it was too tight when i did that last time, no matter where i put the rollers or the slack control. it is indeed an RFS platter my instinct is to adjust... but I was told to wait a bit and watch it... so painful to watch the spaghetti though it only seems to be getting looser not tighter. Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062 www.amandadawnchristie.ca ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca ___ On 2014-10-10, at 3:06 PM, Karl Reinsalu wrote: You are on the right track. In my experience you want the platter as level as possible (RFS Type Platter Looper) to maintain balance. Never let the loop pull backwards and this usually results in the film binding at a point in the run (not fun). I've had instances where I have to constantly find the splice and add the slack to the outer part of the loop in order to get the sweet spot. Id suggest keep wrapping and adjust your front and rear feed (if you can) to tweak the tension right when it stops slacking. Best of luck! Karl. LIFT TECH - www.lift.ca On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Amanda Christie ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca wrote: hello all, i have a bit of a looper question. i've worked with them in the past, but not extensively... and this is the first time i've run into this issue. we loaded the 35mm looper on monday, and ran it for a bit on monday, tuesday, and wednesday just to get the right balance and tension... but wednesday night during the opening, it kept getting more and more slack, dipping closer to the ground... so i spent the day at the gallery yesterday, with some fabric on the floor watching it... because i was told that it was normal that it would take a couple of full days running for it to adjust to heat and humidity and find it's ideal balance... but it started getting really really slack and like spaghetti on the ground... so eventually i stopped it, and added another loop around the looper to take up the slack... it was fine for a while... but then would fluctuate extremely... with the loop dropping down to the ground, then tightening up to as tight as it would go, then back down to the ground... i was hoping it would just find it's balance... but then it got too tight up at the top at the loop box, and started to pop up above the internal vertical rollers, so i stopped it, and removed that external loop again. now, once again it is too slack like spaghetti on the floor (safely on lint free fabric though!) should i give it a few more hours to tighten up and find it's balance, or should i stop it, and wrap another loop around the outside (like i did yesterday, but that was too tight), then release a loop from the inside (so that it's not quite so tight) is this because it's an older print (only 2 years old) with a few splices and burns in it from previous exhibitions? would i be better off with a brand new print? or do i just sit tight and wait for it to find it's happy place? any advice from more experienced loopers would be much appreciated. thank so much! Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062 www.amandadawnchristie.ca ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca ___ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- -- Karl Reinsalu e.mail: kreins...@gmail.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] looper question
I would wrap the film before it touches the ground. The pain is finding that you need more slack to get the loop to fit. :( Do you have permutatable arms? (aka: you can change the distance in order to take-up slack?) K. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Amanda Christie ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca wrote: Thanks Karl! to clarify... am i on the right track... to keep waiting... or to keep adjusting? the spaghetti dance on the floor pains me to watch... i want to grab a ladder and wrap another loop around the outside... , but it was too tight when i did that last time, no matter where i put the rollers or the slack control. it is indeed an RFS platter my instinct is to adjust... but I was told to wait a bit and watch it... so painful to watch the spaghetti though it only seems to be getting looser not tighter. Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062 www.amandadawnchristie.ca ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca ___ On 2014-10-10, at 3:06 PM, Karl Reinsalu wrote: You are on the right track. In my experience you want the platter as level as possible (RFS Type Platter Looper) to maintain balance. Never let the loop pull backwards and this usually results in the film binding at a point in the run (not fun). I've had instances where I have to constantly find the splice and add the slack to the outer part of the loop in order to get the sweet spot. Id suggest keep wrapping and adjust your front and rear feed (if you can) to tweak the tension right when it stops slacking. Best of luck! Karl. LIFT TECH - www.lift.ca On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Amanda Christie ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca wrote: hello all, i have a bit of a looper question. i've worked with them in the past, but not extensively... and this is the first time i've run into this issue. we loaded the 35mm looper on monday, and ran it for a bit on monday, tuesday, and wednesday just to get the right balance and tension... but wednesday night during the opening, it kept getting more and more slack, dipping closer to the ground... so i spent the day at the gallery yesterday, with some fabric on the floor watching it... because i was told that it was normal that it would take a couple of full days running for it to adjust to heat and humidity and find it's ideal balance... but it started getting really really slack and like spaghetti on the ground... so eventually i stopped it, and added another loop around the looper to take up the slack... it was fine for a while... but then would fluctuate extremely... with the loop dropping down to the ground, then tightening up to as tight as it would go, then back down to the ground... i was hoping it would just find it's balance... but then it got too tight up at the top at the loop box, and started to pop up above the internal vertical rollers, so i stopped it, and removed that external loop again. now, once again it is too slack like spaghetti on the floor (safely on lint free fabric though!) should i give it a few more hours to tighten up and find it's balance, or should i stop it, and wrap another loop around the outside (like i did yesterday, but that was too tight), then release a loop from the inside (so that it's not quite so tight) is this because it's an older print (only 2 years old) with a few splices and burns in it from previous exhibitions? would i be better off with a brand new print? or do i just sit tight and wait for it to find it's happy place? any advice from more experienced loopers would be much appreciated. thank so much! Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062 www.amandadawnchristie.ca ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca ___ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- -- Karl Reinsalu e.mail: kreins...@gmail.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- -- Karl Reinsalu e.mail: kreins...@gmail.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] looper question
i do indeed have permutable arms! the crazy thing is how much the slack varies within one run of the loop it will touch the ground, but then go up and go so tight that it almost jams that's the part that i'm struggling with Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062 www.amandadawnchristie.ca ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca ___ On 2014-10-10, at 3:40 PM, Karl Reinsalu wrote: I would wrap the film before it touches the ground. The pain is finding that you need more slack to get the loop to fit. :( Do you have permutatable arms? (aka: you can change the distance in order to take-up slack?) K. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Amanda Christie ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca wrote: Thanks Karl! to clarify... am i on the right track... to keep waiting... or to keep adjusting? the spaghetti dance on the floor pains me to watch... i want to grab a ladder and wrap another loop around the outside... , but it was too tight when i did that last time, no matter where i put the rollers or the slack control. it is indeed an RFS platter my instinct is to adjust... but I was told to wait a bit and watch it... so painful to watch the spaghetti though it only seems to be getting looser not tighter. Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062 www.amandadawnchristie.ca ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca ___ On 2014-10-10, at 3:06 PM, Karl Reinsalu wrote: You are on the right track. In my experience you want the platter as level as possible (RFS Type Platter Looper) to maintain balance. Never let the loop pull backwards and this usually results in the film binding at a point in the run (not fun). I've had instances where I have to constantly find the splice and add the slack to the outer part of the loop in order to get the sweet spot. Id suggest keep wrapping and adjust your front and rear feed (if you can) to tweak the tension right when it stops slacking. Best of luck! Karl. LIFT TECH - www.lift.ca On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Amanda Christie ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca wrote: hello all, i have a bit of a looper question. i've worked with them in the past, but not extensively... and this is the first time i've run into this issue. we loaded the 35mm looper on monday, and ran it for a bit on monday, tuesday, and wednesday just to get the right balance and tension... but wednesday night during the opening, it kept getting more and more slack, dipping closer to the ground... so i spent the day at the gallery yesterday, with some fabric on the floor watching it... because i was told that it was normal that it would take a couple of full days running for it to adjust to heat and humidity and find it's ideal balance... but it started getting really really slack and like spaghetti on the ground... so eventually i stopped it, and added another loop around the looper to take up the slack... it was fine for a while... but then would fluctuate extremely... with the loop dropping down to the ground, then tightening up to as tight as it would go, then back down to the ground... i was hoping it would just find it's balance... but then it got too tight up at the top at the loop box, and started to pop up above the internal vertical rollers, so i stopped it, and removed that external loop again. now, once again it is too slack like spaghetti on the floor (safely on lint free fabric though!) should i give it a few more hours to tighten up and find it's balance, or should i stop it, and wrap another loop around the outside (like i did yesterday, but that was too tight), then release a loop from the inside (so that it's not quite so tight) is this because it's an older print (only 2 years old) with a few splices and burns in it from previous exhibitions? would i be better off with a brand new print? or do i just sit tight and wait for it to find it's happy place? any advice from more experienced loopers would be much appreciated. thank so much! Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062 www.amandadawnchristie.ca ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca ___ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- -- Karl Reinsalu e.mail: kreins...@gmail.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- -- Karl Reinsalu e.mail: kreins...@gmail.com ___
Re: [Frameworks] Kodak pageant bulb replacement- help!
Bueller? Bueller? On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Kelly Gallagher kellyspurpler...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Cinenauts, I am having trouble getting a dead bulb out of my kodak pageant. I took the top housing off and can see/access the top of the bulb. Are there more parts I need to break down? I thought I could just pull the bulb right out with some twist but it feels stuck in there a la sword in the stone. Do I just need to give it a little more muscle and bulb twisting or is there something I'm missing? Thanks, Kelly Gallagher ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] looper question
Assuming you're using a Robert Film Services looper I would double check that all the rollers and bearings are spinning freely. These things can be a pain: I installed one that ran perfectly for a few weeks and then started having problems with slack (we switched the print out every two weeks, so it wasn't an issue with print age or wear). Eventually we got it back to good operating condition but it took a lot of troubleshooting: adding extra rollers after the film left the projector, cleaning the rollers and exercising the bearings, etc. Another thing to check is that the projector isn't leaking oil anywhere on the film and the film path is spotless. These things work great when everything is *perfect* On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Amanda Christie ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca wrote: i do indeed have permutable arms! the crazy thing is how much the slack varies within one run of the loop it will touch the ground, but then go up and go so tight that it almost jams that's the part that i'm struggling with Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062 www.amandadawnchristie.ca ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca ___ On 2014-10-10, at 3:40 PM, Karl Reinsalu wrote: I would wrap the film before it touches the ground. The pain is finding that you need more slack to get the loop to fit. :( Do you have permutatable arms? (aka: you can change the distance in order to take-up slack?) K. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Amanda Christie ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca wrote: Thanks Karl! to clarify... am i on the right track... to keep waiting... or to keep adjusting? the spaghetti dance on the floor pains me to watch... i want to grab a ladder and wrap another loop around the outside... , but it was too tight when i did that last time, no matter where i put the rollers or the slack control. it is indeed an RFS platter my instinct is to adjust... but I was told to wait a bit and watch it... so painful to watch the spaghetti though it only seems to be getting looser not tighter. Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062 www.amandadawnchristie.ca ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca ___ On 2014-10-10, at 3:06 PM, Karl Reinsalu wrote: You are on the right track. In my experience you want the platter as level as possible (RFS Type Platter Looper) to maintain balance. Never let the loop pull backwards and this usually results in the film binding at a point in the run (not fun). I've had instances where I have to constantly find the splice and add the slack to the outer part of the loop in order to get the sweet spot. Id suggest keep wrapping and adjust your front and rear feed (if you can) to tweak the tension right when it stops slacking. Best of luck! Karl. LIFT TECH - www.lift.ca On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Amanda Christie ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca wrote: hello all, i have a bit of a looper question. i've worked with them in the past, but not extensively... and this is the first time i've run into this issue. we loaded the 35mm looper on monday, and ran it for a bit on monday, tuesday, and wednesday just to get the right balance and tension... but wednesday night during the opening, it kept getting more and more slack, dipping closer to the ground... so i spent the day at the gallery yesterday, with some fabric on the floor watching it... because i was told that it was normal that it would take a couple of full days running for it to adjust to heat and humidity and find it's ideal balance... but it started getting really really slack and like spaghetti on the ground... so eventually i stopped it, and added another loop around the looper to take up the slack... it was fine for a while... but then would fluctuate extremely... with the loop dropping down to the ground, then tightening up to as tight as it would go, then back down to the ground... i was hoping it would just find it's balance... but then it got too tight up at the top at the loop box, and started to pop up above the internal vertical rollers, so i stopped it, and removed that external loop again. now, once again it is too slack like spaghetti on the floor (safely on lint free fabric though!) should i give it a few more hours to tighten up and find it's balance, or should i stop it, and wrap another loop around the outside (like i did yesterday, but that was too tight), then release a loop from the inside (so that it's not quite so tight) is this because it's an older print (only 2 years old) with a few splices and burns in it from previous exhibitions? would i be better off with a brand new print? or do i just sit tight and wait for it to find it's happy place? any advice from more experienced loopers would be much appreciated. thank so much! Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062
Re: [Frameworks] Kodak pageant bulb replacement- help!
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[Frameworks] CalArts Screening in New York City
Thinking about applying to CalArts? Please join us for a screening of student work from the School of Film/Video at CalArts, followed by a QA with current faculty and a reception. The screening will take place on *Thursday, October 23, at 7:00 PM* at: Anthology Film Archives Maya Deren Screening Room 32 Second Ave New York, NY 10003 Prospective students will have an opportunity to learn about the many modes of film, video, and animation that CalArts supports, ask questions about the school and its programs, and also to speak with an admissions representative. Faculty in attendance include Leighton Pierce (Dean of the School of Film/Video Experimental Filmmaker), Maureen Selwood (Associate Director of Experimental Animation), and Abigail Severance (Associate Dean of External Student Affairs and Film Directing Program Faculty). Event Info and RSVP Here https://calarts.askadmissions.net/Portal/EI/ViewDetails?gid=62357718f27acbcb14400cbb24e4fcee415efc or at http://tinyurl.com/qbyggjy Alumni of any of our programs within the School of Film/Video at CalArts are more than welcome to attend. Alumni should RSVP by emailing jdam...@calarts.edu. Please RSVP and check in at Anthology's box office. You are more than welcome to forward this email invitation to anyone whom you know is interested in applying to CalArts. Come spend an evening with CalArts and discover what makes it a unique place to study filmmaking and animation. I hope to see you there! Best, Jesse Jesse Damazo Admissions Counselor School of Film/Video CalArts Office of Admissions 24700 McBean Parkway Valencia, CA 91355 P: 661-253-7884 jdam...@calarts.edu ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Kodak pageant bulb replacement- help!
Thanks so much! BULB OUT! Cheers, Kelly On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Roger Wilson rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi Kelly, Not sure what model you have but here is a manual that has a section on replacing bulb. Hope it helps! Roger D. Wilson Film Scientist 613 324 - 7504 rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca http://www.rogerdwilson.ca Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. -- Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 14:09:20 -0500 From: ke...@purpleriot.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak pageant bulb replacement- help! Bueller? Bueller? On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Kelly Gallagher kellyspurpler...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Cinenauts, I am having trouble getting a dead bulb out of my kodak pageant. I took the top housing off and can see/access the top of the bulb. Are there more parts I need to break down? I thought I could just pull the bulb right out with some twist but it feels stuck in there a la sword in the stone. Do I just need to give it a little more muscle and bulb twisting or is there something I'm missing? Thanks, Kelly Gallagher ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] looper question
Here's an absurdly terrible picture of the installation I was talking about. Film ran perfectly for several weeks with no roller or tension or anything directly below the projector, then after a few weeks (print was changed once at this point) that slack below the projector started to shrink, so we added an additional roller beneath the projector, which worked ok but wore the prints out prematurely because more tension was being put on the film. We were eventually able to minimize that by constantly cleaning and exercising all the rollers and bearings in the looper, but it was still never as good as the first few weeks when the looper was brand new. Humidity seems to play a big part in how well the looper functions (same is true of regular platters) so if you're above, say, 50% RH you may want to throw a dehumidifier in with the projector for good measure. A friend of mine told me RFS has a new looper with a motorized platter which works much better. Even with all these little problems it's pretty impressive that a print can survive over 1000 runs and various twists and turns and still look pretty good. [image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Julian Antos jul...@northwestchicagofilmsociety.org wrote: Assuming you're using a Robert Film Services looper I would double check that all the rollers and bearings are spinning freely. These things can be a pain: I installed one that ran perfectly for a few weeks and then started having problems with slack (we switched the print out every two weeks, so it wasn't an issue with print age or wear). Eventually we got it back to good operating condition but it took a lot of troubleshooting: adding extra rollers after the film left the projector, cleaning the rollers and exercising the bearings, etc. Another thing to check is that the projector isn't leaking oil anywhere on the film and the film path is spotless. These things work great when everything is *perfect* On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Amanda Christie ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca wrote: i do indeed have permutable arms! the crazy thing is how much the slack varies within one run of the loop it will touch the ground, but then go up and go so tight that it almost jams that's the part that i'm struggling with Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062 www.amandadawnchristie.ca ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca ___ On 2014-10-10, at 3:40 PM, Karl Reinsalu wrote: I would wrap the film before it touches the ground. The pain is finding that you need more slack to get the loop to fit. :( Do you have permutatable arms? (aka: you can change the distance in order to take-up slack?) K. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Amanda Christie ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca wrote: Thanks Karl! to clarify... am i on the right track... to keep waiting... or to keep adjusting? the spaghetti dance on the floor pains me to watch... i want to grab a ladder and wrap another loop around the outside... , but it was too tight when i did that last time, no matter where i put the rollers or the slack control. it is indeed an RFS platter my instinct is to adjust... but I was told to wait a bit and watch it... so painful to watch the spaghetti though it only seems to be getting looser not tighter. Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062 www.amandadawnchristie.ca ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca ___ On 2014-10-10, at 3:06 PM, Karl Reinsalu wrote: You are on the right track. In my experience you want the platter as level as possible (RFS Type Platter Looper) to maintain balance. Never let the loop pull backwards and this usually results in the film binding at a point in the run (not fun). I've had instances where I have to constantly find the splice and add the slack to the outer part of the loop in order to get the sweet spot. Id suggest keep wrapping and adjust your front and rear feed (if you can) to tweak the tension right when it stops slacking. Best of luck! Karl. LIFT TECH - www.lift.ca On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Amanda Christie ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca wrote: hello all, i have a bit of a looper question. i've worked with them in the past, but not extensively... and this is the first time i've run into this issue. we loaded the 35mm looper on monday, and ran it for a bit on monday, tuesday, and wednesday just to get the right balance and tension... but wednesday night during the opening, it kept getting more and more slack, dipping closer to the ground... so i spent the day at the gallery yesterday, with some fabric on the floor watching it... because i was told that it was normal that it would take a couple of full days running for it to adjust to heat and humidity and find it's ideal balance... but it started getting really really slack and like spaghetti on the ground... so
[Frameworks] Sekonic Studio Deluxe ll L-398M Light Meter for Sale
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Re: [Frameworks] tableau vivante : experimental film and single frames
I'm not sure if this fits your idea of experimental film, but Sergei Paradjanov's masterpiece The Color of Pomegranates is full of tableaux. www.joelwanek.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
