[Frameworks] new work

2014-11-07 Thread jaime cleeland
would like to share my new work

Haii Yuuko Death Of Contemporary Music ( Jp) ANTI FILM : ONE NASTY LITTLE 
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Re: [Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 54, Issue 9

2014-11-07 Thread Péter Lichter
Hi check out my film 77 Years of deja vu on vimeo . Peter Lichter
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 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 21:32:40 -0800
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] lab for painted film
 I had a long conversation with Colorlab. Glad to know of their services.


 On Nov 5, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Jon Behrens wrote:

 Hi Myron
 You might want to just use an optical printer, but I am sure there is a
 lab out there that will do this try colorlab


 good luck
 Jon

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  Are there any labs that will still make a 16mm color inter negative from
 hand painted original? Nothing flaky about the paint and some is just scene
 toning.
 
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 Subject: [Frameworks] Films incorporating déjà vu
 Looking for examples of films that have made attempts at visually
 capturing ( even narratively) this unique sensation

 Thanks in advance
 Daniel


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 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:11:15 + (UTC)
 Subject: [Frameworks] new work
 would like to share my new work

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Re: [Frameworks] Films incorporating déjà vu

2014-11-07 Thread Vera Brunner-Sung
Hi Daniel!

In narrative film, Don't Look Now does something similar.

Vera

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[Frameworks] Constructing A Foley / Sound Studio

2014-11-07 Thread Matthew Shaw
Hi folks,

We are looking at constructing a sound booth that would ideally operate as
a foley space as well. There is an existing classroom space roughly 15' by
30' that can be utilized. I know there are small phone booth like booths
that can be purchased and constructed up to renovating the space into a
proper two room foley studio.

I'm curious what other programs have constructed to meet foley and
recording studio needs. We'd like to construct something beyond applying
sound-proofing to the walls!

Thanks,
Matt Shaw


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Re: [Frameworks] Films incorporating déjà vu

2014-11-07 Thread Daniel Maldonado
Thanks Vera! It's been awhile since Flaherty- I hope you're well!



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 Hi Daniel!
 
 In narrative film, Don't Look Now does something similar.
 
 Vera
 
 On Nov 7, 2014, at 0:05, Daniel Maldonado gashousefi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Looking for examples of films that have made attempts at visually capturing 
 ( even narratively) this unique sensation
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Films incorporating déjà vu

2014-11-07 Thread Francisco Torres
Dark City

and there is this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2eUopy9sd8

2014-11-07 10:42 GMT-04:00 Daniel Maldonado gashousefi...@gmail.com:

 Thanks Vera! It's been awhile since Flaherty- I hope you're well!



  On Nov 7, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Vera Brunner-Sung vbs...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Daniel!
 
  In narrative film, Don't Look Now does something similar.
 
  Vera
 
  On Nov 7, 2014, at 0:05, Daniel Maldonado gashousefi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Looking for examples of films that have made attempts at visually
 capturing ( even narratively) this unique sensation
 
  Thanks in advance
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Re: [Frameworks] Films incorporating déjà vu

2014-11-07 Thread Francisco Torres
Resnais films may be related to deja vu...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HElwY3rt8t0

2014-11-07 11:30 GMT-04:00 Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com:

 Dark City

 and there is this...

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2eUopy9sd8

 2014-11-07 10:42 GMT-04:00 Daniel Maldonado gashousefi...@gmail.com:

 Thanks Vera! It's been awhile since Flaherty- I hope you're well!



  On Nov 7, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Vera Brunner-Sung vbs...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Daniel!
 
  In narrative film, Don't Look Now does something similar.
 
  Vera
 
  On Nov 7, 2014, at 0:05, Daniel Maldonado gashousefi...@gmail.com
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  Looking for examples of films that have made attempts at visually
 capturing ( even narratively) this unique sensation
 
  Thanks in advance
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Re: [Frameworks] Films incorporating deja  vu

2014-11-07 Thread director
I feel like this query has come up before...

 Looking for examples of films that have made attempts at visually
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Re: [Frameworks] Films incorporating déjà vu

2014-11-07 Thread David Sherman
Bela Tarr's Satan Tango has an early scene that is repeated about 4 hours
latter (the film is 450 mins)  in the film that is exactly the same, just
done as a reverse shot of the same action (tracking).-David

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Re: [Frameworks] Films incorporating déjà vu

2014-11-07 Thread nicky . hamlyn
Rivette: Celine and Julie go Boating (if memory serves)? Bunuel: The 
Exterminating Angel (ditto)? Hitchcock: Vertigo,

Nicky.

 

 

 

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Bela Tarr's Satan Tango has an early scene that is repeated about 4 hours 
latter (the film is 450 mins)  in the film that is exactly the same, just done 
as a reverse shot of the same action (tracking).-David


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[Frameworks] new book, AVANT-DOC

2014-11-07 Thread Scott MacDonald
*Dear Frameworkers,*
*Here is the Press's description of my new book, AVANT-DOC: Intersections
of Documentary and Avant-Garde Cinema. The book may be of interest for some
of you:*

*Avant-Doc*: 23 in-depth interviews exploring the intersections between
documentary and avant-garde filmmaking. Scott MacDonald reviews early
overlaps between what have seemed two distinct traditions, then talks with
seminal figures in the evolution of ethnographic film (Robert Gardner and
Lucien Castaing-Taylor,  founder of Harvard’s Sensory Ethnography Lab,
avant-doc’s most productive studio) and personal documentary (Ed Pincus,
Alfred Guzzetti, Ross McElwee, Nina Davenport, Jonathan Caouette) and with
crucial contributors to the modern European “avant-doc”: Dutch-Indonesian
Leonard Retel Helmrich, Austrian Michael Glawogger, and Portuguese Susana
de Sousa Dias. Paweł Wojtasik discusses how a mystical experience freed him
from depression so that he could realize a cinematic form of perceptual
transcendence; and Todd Haynes discusses his early faux documentary,
*Superstar:
the Karen Carpenter Story* and how his early experiences with avant-garde
filmmakers and experimental documentaries paved the way for the commercial
anti-biopic *I’m Not There*.

MacDonald’s interviews with filmmakers who have been working
for decades create a context for a panorama of discussions about recent
breakthroughs, including Jane Gillooly’s *Suitcase of Love and Shame*, Amie
Siegel’s *DDR/DDR*, Alexander Olch’s *The Windmill Movie*, Betzy
Bromberg’s *Voluptuous
Sleep*, Godfrey Reggio’s *Visitors*, Castaing-Taylor and Véréna Paravel’s
*Leviathan*, Jennifer Proctor’s *A Movie by Jen Proctor*, and Stephanie
Spray and Pacho Velez’s *Manakamana*. The 22 filmmaker interviews are
preceded by a conversation with Annette Michelson about what led to her
early championing of documentary pioneer Dziga Vertov and avant-garde
filmmakers Stan Brakhage, Yvonne Rainer, and Hollis Frampton in *Artforum*.
An extended discussion of the thinking behind Harvard’s Sensory Ethnography
Lab concludes the volume.


*Best,*

*Scott*

*Scott MacDonald*
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Re: [Frameworks] new book, AVANT-DOC

2014-11-07 Thread Scott MacDonald
*PS Oops, I meant to say Oxford University Press.Sorry!*

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Scott MacDonald smacd...@hamilton.edu
wrote:



 *Dear Frameworkers,*
 *Here is the Press's description of my new book, AVANT-DOC: Intersections
 of Documentary and Avant-Garde Cinema. The book may be of interest for some
 of you:*

 *Avant-Doc*: 23 in-depth interviews exploring the intersections between
 documentary and avant-garde filmmaking. Scott MacDonald reviews early
 overlaps between what have seemed two distinct traditions, then talks with
 seminal figures in the evolution of ethnographic film (Robert Gardner and
 Lucien Castaing-Taylor,  founder of Harvard’s Sensory Ethnography Lab,
 avant-doc’s most productive studio) and personal documentary (Ed Pincus,
 Alfred Guzzetti, Ross McElwee, Nina Davenport, Jonathan Caouette) and with
 crucial contributors to the modern European “avant-doc”: Dutch-Indonesian
 Leonard Retel Helmrich, Austrian Michael Glawogger, and Portuguese Susana
 de Sousa Dias. Paweł Wojtasik discusses how a mystical experience freed him
 from depression so that he could realize a cinematic form of perceptual
 transcendence; and Todd Haynes discusses his early faux documentary, 
 *Superstar:
 the Karen Carpenter Story* and how his early experiences with avant-garde
 filmmakers and experimental documentaries paved the way for the commercial
 anti-biopic *I’m Not There*.

 MacDonald’s interviews with filmmakers who have been working
 for decades create a context for a panorama of discussions about recent
 breakthroughs, including Jane Gillooly’s *Suitcase of Love and Shame*,
 Amie Siegel’s *DDR/DDR*, Alexander Olch’s *The Windmill Movie*, Betzy
 Bromberg’s *Voluptuous Sleep*, Godfrey Reggio’s *Visitors*,
 Castaing-Taylor and Véréna Paravel’s *Leviathan*, Jennifer Proctor’s *A
 Movie by Jen Proctor*, and Stephanie Spray and Pacho Velez’s *Manakamana*.
 The 22 filmmaker interviews are preceded by a conversation with Annette
 Michelson about what led to her early championing of documentary pioneer
 Dziga Vertov and avant-garde filmmakers Stan Brakhage, Yvonne Rainer, and
 Hollis Frampton in *Artforum*. An extended discussion of the thinking
 behind Harvard’s Sensory Ethnography Lab concludes the volume.


 *Best,*

 *Scott*

 *Scott MacDonald*



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Re: [Frameworks] new book, AVANT-DOC

2014-11-07 Thread Luiz Garcia
Thank you M. MacDonald!

Will surely contribute greatly to my research and others.

Best,

Luiz Garcia

2014-11-07 17:05 GMT+01:00 Scott MacDonald smacd...@hamilton.edu:



 *PS Oops, I meant to say Oxford University Press.Sorry!*

 On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Scott MacDonald smacd...@hamilton.edu
 wrote:



 *Dear Frameworkers,*
 *Here is the Press's description of my new book, AVANT-DOC: Intersections
 of Documentary and Avant-Garde Cinema. The book may be of interest for some
 of you:*

 *Avant-Doc*: 23 in-depth interviews exploring the intersections between
 documentary and avant-garde filmmaking. Scott MacDonald reviews early
 overlaps between what have seemed two distinct traditions, then talks with
 seminal figures in the evolution of ethnographic film (Robert Gardner and
 Lucien Castaing-Taylor,  founder of Harvard’s Sensory Ethnography Lab,
 avant-doc’s most productive studio) and personal documentary (Ed Pincus,
 Alfred Guzzetti, Ross McElwee, Nina Davenport, Jonathan Caouette) and with
 crucial contributors to the modern European “avant-doc”: Dutch-Indonesian
 Leonard Retel Helmrich, Austrian Michael Glawogger, and Portuguese Susana
 de Sousa Dias. Paweł Wojtasik discusses how a mystical experience freed him
 from depression so that he could realize a cinematic form of perceptual
 transcendence; and Todd Haynes discusses his early faux documentary, 
 *Superstar:
 the Karen Carpenter Story* and how his early experiences with
 avant-garde filmmakers and experimental documentaries paved the way for the
 commercial anti-biopic *I’m Not There*.

 MacDonald’s interviews with filmmakers who have been working
 for decades create a context for a panorama of discussions about recent
 breakthroughs, including Jane Gillooly’s *Suitcase of Love and Shame*,
 Amie Siegel’s *DDR/DDR*, Alexander Olch’s *The Windmill Movie*, Betzy
 Bromberg’s *Voluptuous Sleep*, Godfrey Reggio’s *Visitors*,
 Castaing-Taylor and Véréna Paravel’s *Leviathan*, Jennifer Proctor’s *A
 Movie by Jen Proctor*, and Stephanie Spray and Pacho Velez’s *Manakamana*.
 The 22 filmmaker interviews are preceded by a conversation with Annette
 Michelson about what led to her early championing of documentary pioneer
 Dziga Vertov and avant-garde filmmakers Stan Brakhage, Yvonne Rainer, and
 Hollis Frampton in *Artforum*. An extended discussion of the thinking
 behind Harvard’s Sensory Ethnography Lab concludes the volume.


 *Best,*

 *Scott*

 *Scott MacDonald*





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Re: [Frameworks] Constructing A Foley / Sound Studio

2014-11-07 Thread Dave Tetzlaff
Matt:

I doubt you'll find good models at other schools. In my travels, college sound 
facilities have either been created from the ground up as part of an expensive 
building project, or jury rigged into some existing space so cheaply and poorly 
they're barely worth having. If you can find any schools that have gone a DIY 
route, they'll probably be useful mostly in telling you what NOT to do.

I've have experience with some small pre-fab booths, and they all stunk. Also, 
they are designed as essentially the opposite of what you want: the idea being 
the talent goes into the booth to do a VO. 

To get anything functional, you're going to need a custom constructed studio 
booth designed to fit the room. The materials with need to be custom cut, and 
the booth will likely need to be constructed mostly in the room, rather than 
making larger sections in another location and assembling them in the space.

I would guess you could hire a contractor who specializes in sound booth 
construction to create something for you, but i'd also guess the cost would be 
prohibitive. There are any number of books that lay out principles and methods 
for DIY booth construction. Perhaps you could work with the college's physical 
plant to design and build something 'yourself' (that is, within the college).

I would guess what you can accomplish will depend on how much time you (Matt) 
can put into it. That would be an advantage your program has over most small 
college film programs: your labor, knowledge and commitment to getting it 
right.. 

Since it's an educational facility it doesn't have to look nice to impress 
clients, it just has to be functional. Whatever you save on aesthetics, do not 
scrimp on basic functionality. You'll need a serious double pane glass sound 
isolating window, serious sound seals on the door(s). The trick is the sound 
isolation of the booth. It's ideally a six-sided double-walled room within the 
classroom, with the bottom decoupled from the classroom floor, and the inner 
and outer wall of the booth decoupled...

There are a number of books, and maybe even some plans on the web. I have no 
familiarity with any of them. This one was recommended:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/home-recording-studio-rod-gervais/1100355128?ean=9781435457171

I'd probably do plenty of research, check several books, before making any 
plans.

Other things that are not going to be cheap: A classroom probably has 
old-school tube fluorescent overhead lighting which will have to be replaced. 
LED lamps probably, but I don't know if they have counter-EMF issues. You'll 
probably have to isolate the stage part of the room from the buildings 
ventilation and heating system, as that's likely to go on and off at will and 
generate too much noise. Then you'll need a way to ventilate the booth, as it 
will be a sealed space and the equipment in it will generate heat. Finally, 
classrooms have a shit-ton of echo and you'll need serious sound deadening 
treatments for the walls and ceiling.

In short, it's a major project, and if you can't do it right, it's probably not 
worth doing at all.

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