very very funny!
a tempest in a teapot.
i doubt that the millenium will find a new director to helm that sinking
boat. unless the culture that surrounds the organization will take care of
itself like corruption does, eventually killing its host.
who would even dare step into the role? and from what i understand, on the
sidelines, that there is absolutely no transparency in the board and that
yes there has been no turnover in any leadership roles in i don't know how
long. not to speak ill of the dead, but apparently millenium's problems
weren't just howards' although he was the familiar scapegoat for many a
filmmaker.
my question is: what happens to all of the equipment in storage? it must be
given to a non-profit, correct? there was a lot of work put in to moving it
all from the mold-infested hole in the lower east side out to bushwick. its
all in good condition. filmmakers want to use it. do we have to start an
entirely new organization and raise the funds to buy the equipment? or will
this too be held for ransom?
mary billyou
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Nick Deamer wrote:
> Sorry last message sent by mistake
>
> Nick
>
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:56 PM, op wrote:
>
> hear, hear.
> owen
>
> On Sep 26, 2015, at 12:04 AM, drawclose.com
> wrote:
>
> It's funny, I've learned the most in terms of creative skills and art
> making from ppl whose passion has a curmudgeonly streak, one earned from
> hard experience with the work. That's why I like this listserv.
>
> Corollary - If my first concern is my own comfort, why did I become an
> artist?
>
> Jessica
>
> *
> http://www.drawclose.com
>
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:30 PM, k. a.r. wrote:
>
> *'...I've been on this listserv for less than two hours, and I'm already
> receiving emails comprised of snarky infighting and character
> assassination.Honestly, it's my fault. I was warned. I've heard from many
> sources, i.e. young experimental filmmakers, that this listserv was a space
> of negativity, where people were shamed and attacked over the most
> innocuous things..*
> *You should all maybe give this some thought.'*
>
> hahaha oh wow.
> I've been on this list since 96 or 97; in fact I got my first personal
> email specifically to join it.
>
> Jona, if you think this is bad, you have NO. IDEA. lol
>
> Frameworks is quite tame these days, there have been some MASSIVE
> disagreements, that went on and on for ever.
> And many written by some quite verbose people. Lots and lots and LOTS of
> words to make their point.
>
> It's too bad that your whole experience lasted 2 hours, because it makes
> me wonder about the attention span of youth.
> Is it really that much of an instant gratification generation that you get
> in, judge, and get out so quickly?
> That is really interesting to me. Some things take more time. A lot more
> time.
> I wonder what this world is changing into, and what the future will be
> like, with such an impatient generation.
> Curious.
>
> Also, if you choose to focus on only the negative, that is what you get.
> There are lots of posts, and honestly, I don't even notice that much
> negativity these days.
>
> Soyou get what you look for, I guess.
> I truly appreciate this list as a place to go to for giving and taking of
> information, and it's a great community.
> The film world would be a lesser place without it.
>
> MHO
>
> Kristie Reinders, B.F.A.
> Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions
> Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project
> The Mission, San Francisco, CA
>
> 'A first class technician should work best under pressure.'
> - - - Issac Asimov
>
> --
> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 00:27:55 -0600
> From: jonagerl...@gmail.com
> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] NEW DIRECTOR NEEDED for Millennium Film Workshop
>
> Wow. I've been on this listserv for less than two hours, and I'm already
> receiving emails comprised of snarky infighting and character assassination.
>
> Honestly, it's my fault. I was warned. I've heard from many sources, i.e.
> young experimental filmmakers, that this listserv was a space of
> negativity, where people were shamed and attacked over the most innocuous
> things.
>
> Still, as a new filmmaker who draws inspiration from the traditions of
> experimental and independent film, I figured I'd sign up. I figured it
> couldn't be that bad, that I could surely draw inspiration from artists
> with a lifetime of experience, and that it could enrich my practice and
> inspire me.
>
> But, well, no. They were right, I was wrong.
>
> And I'm not trying to clog my inbox with old grudges and hostility.
>
> The writer Ben Marcus said: "Anyone who believes that you can make art
> from language is part of a small, nearly-vanishing community, and we should
> all form a wedge and march on the enemy."
>
> I think the basic sentiment applies to experimental film as well.
>
> You should all maybe give this some thought.
>
> Best,
>
> [unsubsc
