Re: [Frameworks] film scanner

2016-12-01 Thread Scott Dorsey
There are a lot of old film-to-video devices out there that produce pretty
rotten looking 480i video with 3:2 pulldown.  Some of them are still selling
for good money.  We do not live in the 480i world any longer.

There are a number of actually very good looking film-to-video systems that
use modified DSLRs at very low framerates for digitizing film.  These can
actually look very good, but the camera shutters are not designed for that
kind of heavy use and so the total lifetime of the system is pretty low.

I really don't know of any inexpensive line scanning systems that come out
with directly digitized unprocessed images right now.  There should definitely
be a market for it.

The $200 8mm scanner that started this thread might actually be a pretty good
idea, IF someone could throw out all the software and write decent drivers for
the thing that would extract unprocessed scans.
--scott

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Re: [Frameworks] film scanner

2016-12-01 Thread Francisco Torres
There are 16mm versions of the retro scanners Still think 5-10 k is a
good price if the thing works as promised... a big IF

2016-12-01 19:06 GMT-04:00 Dominic Angerame :

> David, did not realize u meant 10 grand. That is an awful lot of money for
> doing S8mm and 8mm, there used to be very cheap ways of doing transfers by
> using a projector. I am sure that David (above) knows more about this than
> I.It is just a lot of money.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Dave Tetzlaff  wrote:
>
>> > I wonder if there is any alternative to it at a decent price (under 10
>> K?)
>>
>> Did you really mean “under $10,000”?
>>
>> Well, there’s the MovieStuff Retro, $4.500:
>> http://moviestuff.tv/moviestuff_home.html
>>
>> Mr. MovieStuff, Roger Evans, used to make film scanners based on
>> projector mechanisms, probably similar in function to the Reflecta. Some
>> (i’m not sure if all) of these carried the name “Workprinter”. He kept
>> refining the design, moving away from the projector working like a
>> projector to a more controlled scanning method. I’ve never seen one in
>> person, but the guy has been in business a long time now, so I can’t
>> imagine the stuff is bogus. There are probably used models of that older
>> ‘Workprinter’ type out there somewhere.
>>
>> > I know there are filmmakers who have cheaply rigged up an Arduino setup
>> for it..
>>
>> I think that may refer to this: http://kinograph.cc/
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Re: [Frameworks] film scanner

2016-12-01 Thread Dominic Angerame
David, did not realize u meant 10 grand. That is an awful lot of money for
doing S8mm and 8mm, there used to be very cheap ways of doing transfers by
using a projector. I am sure that David (above) knows more about this than
I.It is just a lot of money.


On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Dave Tetzlaff  wrote:

> > I wonder if there is any alternative to it at a decent price (under 10
> K?)
>
> Did you really mean “under $10,000”?
>
> Well, there’s the MovieStuff Retro, $4.500: http://moviestuff.tv/
> moviestuff_home.html
>
> Mr. MovieStuff, Roger Evans, used to make film scanners based on projector
> mechanisms, probably similar in function to the Reflecta. Some (i’m not
> sure if all) of these carried the name “Workprinter”. He kept refining the
> design, moving away from the projector working like a projector to a more
> controlled scanning method. I’ve never seen one in person, but the guy has
> been in business a long time now, so I can’t imagine the stuff is bogus.
> There are probably used models of that older ‘Workprinter’ type out there
> somewhere.
>
> > I know there are filmmakers who have cheaply rigged up an Arduino setup
> for it..
>
> I think that may refer to this: http://kinograph.cc/
>
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