Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema

[David Kidman]

I hesitated to put them both forward, but definitely both.
There is also 12 monkeys as a fully paid-up La Jetée remake. 

D


> On 15 Feb 2018, at 02:20, Christopher Ball  wrote:
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> I always thought that the first few minutes of Lost Highway was a tribute to 
> Meshes of the Afternoon
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>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:36 PM, David Kidman  wrote:
>> Isn’t Mulholland Drive a remake of Meshes of the Afternoon?
>> D
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>>> On 14 Feb 2018, at 20:09, Esperanza Collado  
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>>> Not sure if We Can't Go Back Home Again by Nicholas Ray could be understood 
>>> as such but for sure it plays with those ideas perhaps in an inverted way.
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>>> 2018-02-14 17:36 GMT+01:00 Francisco Torres :
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Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema

[Christopher Ball]

I always thought that the first few minutes of Lost Highway was a tribute
to Meshes of the Afternoon

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:36 PM, David Kidman 
wrote:

> Isn’t Mulholland Drive a remake of Meshes of the Afternoon?
> D
>
> On 14 Feb 2018, at 20:09, Esperanza Collado 
> wrote:
>
> Not sure if *We Can't Go Back Home Again* by Nicholas Ray could be
> understood as such but for sure it plays with those ideas perhaps in an
> inverted way.
>
> 2018-02-14 17:36 GMT+01:00 Francisco Torres :
>
>> After the Fox 1966
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqZKUx91MFI
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Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema

[Elena Duque]

Man with a Movie Camera, by Dziga Vertov?

El 14 feb. 2018 22:36, "David Kidman"  escribió:

> Isn’t Mulholland Drive a remake of Meshes of the Afternoon?
> D
>
> On 14 Feb 2018, at 20:09, Esperanza Collado 
> wrote:
>
> Not sure if *We Can't Go Back Home Again* by Nicholas Ray could be
> understood as such but for sure it plays with those ideas perhaps in an
> inverted way.
>
> 2018-02-14 17:36 GMT+01:00 Francisco Torres :
>
>> After the Fox 1966
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqZKUx91MFI
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Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema

[Pip Chodorov]

No that was Lost Highway
P


At 22:36 +0100 14/02/18, David Kidman wrote:

Isn¹t Mulholland Drive a remake of Meshes of the Afternoon?
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Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema

[David Kidman]

Isn’t Mulholland Drive a remake of Meshes of the Afternoon?
D

> On 14 Feb 2018, at 20:09, Esperanza Collado  
> wrote:
> 
> Not sure if We Can't Go Back Home Again by Nicholas Ray could be understood 
> as such but for sure it plays with those ideas perhaps in an inverted way.
> 
> 2018-02-14 17:36 GMT+01:00 Francisco Torres :
>> After the Fox 1966
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqZKUx91MFI
>> 
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>> 2018-02-14 11:22 GMT-04:00 Scott Dorsey :
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Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema

[Esperanza Collado]

Not sure if *We Can't Go Back Home Again* by Nicholas Ray could be
understood as such but for sure it plays with those ideas perhaps in an
inverted way.

2018-02-14 17:36 GMT+01:00 Francisco Torres :

> After the Fox 1966
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Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema

[Francisco Torres]

After the Fox 1966

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqZKUx91MFI


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Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema

[Scott Dorsey]

SORT OF MAYBE: A Zed And Two Noughts.
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Re: [Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema

[Pablo Marin]

Hi Albert,

Mmm... David Holzman's Diary?
Maybe some Godard would fit as well...
Best!Pablo.

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  On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 at 9:02, Albert Alcoz wrote:   
Hello,
Do you recall any fiction feature length film that is a sort of tribute to 
Avant-Garde or experimental film?

The other day, watching the film Arrebato (1980) by Iván Zulueta for ten times 
I was wondering about feature lengths films (on 35 mm or digital video) where 
one of the main topic is the practice of Avant-Garde film. We could say this 
Spanish film is a homage to experimental super 8 film. The main character does 
horror films and the other is learning how to use the "pause" and the interval 
timer with his Canon 1014.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078797/

I don't know if there are some other fiction films that could be understood 
under this idea.
Maybe Dreams that Money Can't Buy (1947)? 
Do you have some other titles in mind?
Thank you!
Albert-- 
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http://albertalcoz.com/
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[Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,

Do you recall any fiction feature length film that is a sort of tribute to
Avant-Garde or experimental film?

The other day, watching the film *Arrebato* (1980) by Iván Zulueta for ten
times I was wondering about feature lengths films (on 35 mm or digital
video) where one of the main topic is the practice of Avant-Garde film. We
could say this Spanish film is a homage to experimental super 8 film. The
main character does horror films and the other is learning how to use the
"pause" and the interval timer with his Canon 1014.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078797/

I don't know if there are some other fiction films that could be understood
under this idea.

Maybe *Dreams that Money Can't Buy *(1947)?

Do you have some other titles in mind?

Thank you!

Albert
-- 
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http://albertalcoz.com/ 
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