Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues

[Will Erokan]

Hello Adam,
A PEG Channel is a public access channel.. PEG Refers to Public,
Educational, Government.

As for whether or not we pay filmmakers to show their work.. we do not.

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 10:19 AM Adam Hyman  wrote:

> Do you pay filmmakers when you screen their work?
> And what is a PEG Channel, please?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adam
>
> From: FrameWorks  on behalf of
> Will Erokan 
> Reply-To: "Experimental Film Discussion List <
> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>" 
> Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 11:24 PM
> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List " <
> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues
>
> I run an experimental cable access show called Here Comes Everybody. We
> screen in a number of cities* across the US, and we don't have submission
> fees.
> Please, do not hesitate to submit work.. Due to time restrictions we'd
> have a hard time screening anything longer than 28 minutes, ideally we're
> looking for pieces 0-10 minutes in length.
> You can find our episodes archived on youtube here..
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyP_qMpFYsPugsG0t_wnH64OV3LmQYmlj
> Send your links to hcet...@gmail.com
>
> Likewise, if you're connected to a PEG channel and you'd like to run our
> show.. Please let me know and I can start delivering episodes immediately.
>
> -will erokan
>
> *We broadcast regularly in Los Angeles, Portland OR, Waukegan IL, North
> Liberty IA, Ithaca NY, etc
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 10:22 PM Adam Hyman  wrote:
>
>> Yes, thank you.  That is what I was asking.
>> We just had a great discussion about this at a panel of
>> programmers/directors at Experiments in Cinema.
>> In the US, there generally is not much government money on any level to
>> support film festivals, let alone their prizes.  Thus, to compare a
>> European festival to a US one is not so simple when it comes to funding,
>> submission fees, awards, etc.
>>
>> Mind you, I don’t run a festival, but a weekly screening series, but back
>> to Dominic’s original question, it is dependent on finding facilities,
>> people, audiences, and money to make a festival longer.  Most people I know
>> who run festivals are burned out after their current durations, so making
>> it longer isn’t physically feasible.  Attendees also burn out.  Theaters
>> want to get back to their regular programming.  Volunteers need to return
>> to paying jobs.  It seems like most US festivals have a tough time raising
>> enough money to put on the festivals that they currently have.  Even with
>> submission fees increasing with the number of submissions (and it’s
>> debatable whether those are proper anyway), that isn’t enough for all the
>> requirements of a festival.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> From: FrameWorks  on behalf of
>> Marcin Gizycki 
>> Reply-To: "Experimental Film Discussion List <
>> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>" 
>> Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 8:54 PM
>> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List "
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues
>>
>> Adam,
>>
>> Are you asking where the money for our awards comes from? Mostly from the
>> city of Poznan. Also from the Polish Film Institute and other public
>> institutions.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Marcin
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* FrameWorks  *On Behalf
>> Of *Adam Hyman
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 30, 2019 11:38 PM
>> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List 
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues
>>
>>
>>
>> Paid for by whom?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *FrameWorks  on behalf of
>> Marcin Gizycki 
>> *Reply-To: *"Experimental Film Discussion List <
>> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>" 
>> *Date: *Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 5:43 PM
>> *To: *"Experimental Film Discussion List "
>> 
>> *Subject: *Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok., Tim,
>>
>> I understand. One correction to my previous email. The Grand Prix at
>> Animator equals $15,000.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Marcin
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* FrameWorks  *On Behalf
>> Of *Dimitrije Martinovic
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:39 PM
>> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with you, DIY-start your own screenings,  I would love to
>> collaborator with anyone interested in trying this one.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 8:06 PM Tim Halloran 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Marcin, why did you assume I was being sarcastic? I was quite serious.
>> Just saying we should stop crying about it and reimagine the whole festival
>> paradigm. DIY.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Marcin Gizycki  wrote:
>>
>> Tim, sarcasm is not necessary here. I started such a festival long time
>> ago: Animator in Poznan, Poland. We do not charge any fee and the Grad Prix
>> equals $1500 thousand dollars.
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Marcin
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* FrameWorks  *On Behalf
>> Of *Chris Lange
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 30, 2019 7:27 PM
>> *To:* Experimental Fi

Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues

[Dante Fresse]

I agree!

Sent from my iPad

> On May 1, 2019, at 2:46 PM, Dominic Angerame  
> wrote:
> 
> This is a catch 22 I suggest limiting the amount of entries to what the 
> festival can handle. Maybe they need hundreds of entries for income purposes.
> 
>> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:32 AM Scott Dorsey  wrote:
>> I agree that prescreening is the problem but the -reason- why 
>> prescreening
>> is so difficult is the sheer volume of material coming in.
>> --scott
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[Frameworks] festivals

[roddybp]

Just a note on this thread: a decline in interest in submitting work was
part of the experience of losing interest in what was selected.

Bernie
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Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues

[Adam Hyman]

That¹s great!  How do you raise money for that?

Best,

Adam

From:  FrameWorks  on behalf of Jon
Behrens 
Reply-To:  "Experimental Film Discussion List
" 
Date:  Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 1:20 PM
To:  "Experimental Film Discussion List "

Subject:  Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues

Engauge Experimental Film Festival has no entry fee . and if you get
accepted you will receive $200 honorarium
www.interbaycinemasociety.org 

Jon

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Dominic Angerame 
wrote:

> PS. 
> 
> I once entered a festival that only accepted a certain amount of entries and
> cut off all entries sent after a specific deadline. This may be a way towards
> a solution. I would like to know how many films I am competing with. If a
> festival allows 2700 entries, such as Ann Arbor, I never would have submitted
> my work. 
> 
> I would have taken the $40 entry and bought lottery tickets were I stand a
> better chance of winning.
> 
> D
> 
>> On May 1, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Dante Fresse  wrote:
>> 
>> Film festival proliferation is a good thing for me, but focusing on the next
>> time increase in my opinion isn¹t the right thing to do. As a young filmmaker
>> I find competitive process of selecting to be an opportunity for growth and
>> scarcity in this industry and that is an excellent way to learn how to use
>> opportunities where you can get a chance to talk to succeeding artists.
>> 
>> What do y¹all think about this?
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:11 PM Dominic Angerame 
>> wrote:
>>> Every film festival is telling me that they have received record number of
>>> entries from hundreds to thousands. If entries are increasing should not the
>>> scope and duration of the festivals increase to accommodate the record
>>> numbers. Increased entries also mean increased income to the festivals.
>>> 
>>> A question to the community
>>> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues

[Dinorah de Jesús Rodriguez]

This truly blew me away! I was so surprised when that honorarium came.
Thank you again Jon for the great work you’re doing in promoting
experimental film!!!

El El mié, may. 1, 2019 a las 4:20 p. m., Jon Behrens 
escribió:

> Engauge Experimental Film Festival has no entry fee . and if you get
> accepted you will receive $200 honorarium
> www.interbaycinemasociety.org
>
> Jon
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 1, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Dominic Angerame 
> wrote:
>
> PS.
>
> I once entered a festival that only accepted a certain amount of entries
> and cut off all entries sent after a specific deadline. This may be a way
> towards a solution. I would like to know how many films I am competing
> with. If a festival allows 2700 entries, such as Ann Arbor, I never would
> have submitted my work.
>
> I would have taken the $40 entry and bought lottery tickets were I stand a
> better chance of winning.
>
> D
>
> On May 1, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Dante Fresse  wrote:
>
> Film festival proliferation is a good thing for me, but focusing on the
> next time increase in my opinion isn’t the right thing to do. As a young
> filmmaker I find competitive process of selecting to be an opportunity for
> growth and scarcity in this industry and that is an excellent way to learn
> how to use opportunities where you can get a chance to talk to succeeding
> artists.
>
> What do y’all think about this?
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:11 PM Dominic Angerame <
> dominic.anger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Every film festival is telling me that they have received record number
>> of entries from hundreds to thousands. If entries are increasing should not
>> the scope and duration of the festivals increase to accommodate the record
>> numbers. Increased entries also mean increased income to the festivals.
>>
>> A question to the community
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues

[Jon Behrens]

Engauge Experimental Film Festival has no entry fee . and if you get accepted 
you will receive $200 honorarium
www.interbaycinemasociety.org

Jon

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Dominic Angerame 
mailto:dominic.anger...@gmail.com>> wrote:

PS.

I once entered a festival that only accepted a certain amount of entries and 
cut off all entries sent after a specific deadline. This may be a way towards a 
solution. I would like to know how many films I am competing with. If a 
festival allows 2700 entries, such as Ann Arbor, I never would have submitted 
my work.

I would have taken the $40 entry and bought lottery tickets were I stand a 
better chance of winning.

D

On May 1, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Dante Fresse 
mailto:daf...@bucknell.edu>> wrote:

Film festival proliferation is a good thing for me, but focusing on the next 
time increase in my opinion isn’t the right thing to do. As a young filmmaker I 
find competitive process of selecting to be an opportunity for growth and 
scarcity in this industry and that is an excellent way to learn how to use 
opportunities where you can get a chance to talk to succeeding artists.

What do y’all think about this?

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:11 PM Dominic Angerame 
mailto:dominic.anger...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Every film festival is telling me that they have received record number of 
entries from hundreds to thousands. If entries are increasing should not the 
scope and duration of the festivals increase to accommodate the record numbers. 
Increased entries also mean increased income to the festivals.

A question to the community

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Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues

[Dominic Angerame]

If festivals budget correctly they will know how many entries they need for
income to operate and to cover expenses

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:46 AM Dominic Angerame 
wrote:

> This is a catch 22 I suggest limiting the amount of entries to what the
> festival can handle. Maybe they need hundreds of entries for income
> purposes.
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:32 AM Scott Dorsey  wrote:
>
>> I agree that prescreening is the problem but the -reason- why
>> prescreening
>> is so difficult is the sheer volume of material coming in.
>> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues

[Dominic Angerame]

This is a catch 22 I suggest limiting the amount of entries to what the
festival can handle. Maybe they need hundreds of entries for income
purposes.

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:32 AM Scott Dorsey  wrote:

> I agree that prescreening is the problem but the -reason- why
> prescreening
> is so difficult is the sheer volume of material coming in.
> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues

[Scott Dorsey]

I agree that prescreening is the problem but the -reason- why prescreening
is so difficult is the sheer volume of material coming in.
--scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues

[Dominic Angerame]

PS.

I once entered a festival that only accepted a certain amount of entries and 
cut off all entries sent after a specific deadline. This may be a way towards a 
solution. I would like to know how many films I am competing with. If a 
festival allows 2700 entries, such as Ann Arbor, I never would have submitted 
my work. 

I would have taken the $40 entry and bought lottery tickets were I stand a 
better chance of winning.

D

> On May 1, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Dante Fresse  wrote:
> 
> Film festival proliferation is a good thing for me, but focusing on the next 
> time increase in my opinion isn’t the right thing to do. As a young filmmaker 
> I find competitive process of selecting to be an opportunity for growth and 
> scarcity in this industry and that is an excellent way to learn how to use 
> opportunities where you can get a chance to talk to succeeding artists.
> 
> What do y’all think about this?
> 
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:11 PM Dominic Angerame  > wrote:
> Every film festival is telling me that they have received record number of 
> entries from hundreds to thousands. If entries are increasing should not the 
> scope and duration of the festivals increase to accommodate the record 
> numbers. Increased entries also mean increased income to the festivals. 
> 
> A question to the community
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues

[Dominic Angerame]

I do not think the competitive nature of festivals in the problem. It is 
definitely with the PRE SCREENING process. I have sat as a judge for the 
Experimental Category (New Visions) at the SF Int’l Film Festival. After 
viewing all of the work approved by the prescreens I request a list of all of 
the entries and filmmakers. I found four important and well known filmmaker’s 
work on this rejected list.

I requested that the judges see these works and all of them were shown at the 
Festival and won achieved an award.

Prescreens are often not qualified to watch experimental work often they have 
no idea what that genre is. Pre screening has been a problem with festivals for 
decades and this process should be re evaluated by Festival Directors and 
Organizations.

D

> On May 1, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Dante Fresse  wrote:
> 
> Film festival proliferation is a good thing for me, but focusing on the next 
> time increase in my opinion isn’t the right thing to do. As a young filmmaker 
> I find competitive process of selecting to be an opportunity for growth and 
> scarcity in this industry and that is an excellent way to learn how to use 
> opportunities where you can get a chance to talk to succeeding artists.
> 
> What do y’all think about this?
> 
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:11 PM Dominic Angerame  > wrote:
> Every film festival is telling me that they have received record number of 
> entries from hundreds to thousands. If entries are increasing should not the 
> scope and duration of the festivals increase to accommodate the record 
> numbers. Increased entries also mean increased income to the festivals. 
> 
> A question to the community
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues

[Dante Fresse]

Film festival proliferation is a good thing for me, but focusing on the
next time increase in my opinion isn’t the right thing to do. As a young
filmmaker I find competitive process of selecting to be an opportunity for
growth and scarcity in this industry and that is an excellent way to learn
how to use opportunities where you can get a chance to talk to succeeding
artists.

What do y’all think about this?

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:11 PM Dominic Angerame 
wrote:

> Every film festival is telling me that they have received record number of
> entries from hundreds to thousands. If entries are increasing should not
> the scope and duration of the festivals increase to accommodate the record
> numbers. Increased entries also mean increased income to the festivals.
>
> A question to the community
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues

[Adam Hyman]

Do you pay filmmakers when you screen their work?
And what is a PEG Channel, please?

Best regards,

Adam

From:  FrameWorks  on behalf of Will
Erokan 
Reply-To:  "Experimental Film Discussion List
" 
Date:  Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 11:24 PM
To:  "Experimental Film Discussion List "

Subject:  Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues

I run an experimental cable access show called Here Comes Everybody. We
screen in a number of cities* across the US, and we don't have submission
fees.
Please, do not hesitate to submit work.. Due to time restrictions we'd have
a hard time screening anything longer than 28 minutes, ideally we're looking
for pieces 0-10 minutes in length.
You can find our episodes archived on youtube here..
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyP_qMpFYsPugsG0t_wnH64OV3LmQYmlj
Send your links to hcet...@gmail.com

Likewise, if you're connected to a PEG channel and you'd like to run our
show.. Please let me know and I can start delivering episodes immediately.

-will erokan

*We broadcast regularly in Los Angeles, Portland OR, Waukegan IL, North
Liberty IA, Ithaca NY, etc

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 10:22 PM Adam Hyman  wrote:
> Yes, thank you.  That is what I was asking.
> We just had a great discussion about this at a panel of programmers/directors
> at Experiments in Cinema.
> In the US, there generally is not much government money on any level to
> support film festivals, let alone their prizes.  Thus, to compare a European
> festival to a US one is not so simple when it comes to funding, submission
> fees, awards, etc.
> 
> Mind you, I don¹t run a festival, but a weekly screening series, but back to
> Dominic¹s original question, it is dependent on finding facilities, people,
> audiences, and money to make a festival longer.  Most people I know who run
> festivals are burned out after their current durations, so making it longer
> isn¹t physically feasible.  Attendees also burn out.  Theaters want to get
> back to their regular programming.  Volunteers need to return to paying jobs.
> It seems like most US festivals have a tough time raising enough money to put
> on the festivals that they currently have.  Even with submission fees
> increasing with the number of submissions (and it¹s debatable whether those
> are proper anyway), that isn¹t enough for all the requirements of a festival.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Adam 
> 
> 
> 
> From:  FrameWorks  on behalf of Marcin
> Gizycki 
> Reply-To:  "Experimental Film Discussion List
> " 
> Date:  Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 8:54 PM
> To:  "Experimental Film Discussion List "
> 
> Subject:  Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues
> 
> Adam,
> Are you asking where the money for our awards comes from? Mostly from the city
> of Poznan. Also from the Polish Film Institute and other public institutions.
> Best,
> Marcin
>  
> 
> From: FrameWorks  On Behalf Of Adam
> Hyman
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 11:38 PM
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> 
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues
>  
> 
> Paid for by whom?
> 
>  
> 
> Best,
> 
>  
> 
> Adam
> 
>  
> 
> From: FrameWorks  on behalf of Marcin
> Gizycki 
> Reply-To: "Experimental Film Discussion List "
> 
> Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 5:43 PM
> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List "
> 
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues
> 
>  
> 
> Ok., Tim,
> I understand. One correction to my previous email. The Grand Prix at Animator
> equals $15,000.
> Best,
> Marcin
>  
> From: FrameWorks  On Behalf Of
> Dimitrije Martinovic
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:39 PM
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues
>  
> 
> I agree with you, DIY-start your own screenings,  I would love to collaborator
> with anyone interested in trying this one.
> 
>  
> 
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 8:06 PM Tim Halloran  wrote:
>> 
>> Marcin, why did you assume I was being sarcastic? I was quite serious. Just
>> saying we should stop crying about it and reimagine the whole festival
>> paradigm. DIY. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 30, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Marcin Gizycki  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tim, sarcasm is not necessary here. I started such a festival long time ago:
>>> Animator in Poznan, Poland. We do not charge any fee and the Grad Prix
>>> equals $1500 thousand dollars.
>>> Yours,
>>> Marcin 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: FrameWorks  On Behalf Of Chris
>>> Lange
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 7:27 PM
>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Film Festival Blues
>>>  
>>> Maybe they should provide more money to the festival film viewers / jury to
>>> do a fully honest and cognizant job of selecting.  That¹s important work,
>>> which for some festivals sometimes seems like a bit of a bs configuration.
>>> Though, it is the festival viewer / critic that spends the sometimes
>>> difficult and time-consuming work of assessing all of these films.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> If they¹re making more money and not expanding their 

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into the valley of our minds

Barbara Rubin, Jonas Mekas, Carolee Schneemann, Barbara Hammer, Margie
Keller, Phil Solomon, Jonathan Schwartz, Rob Todd, and all those who have
helped us to get HERE

AT THAT TIME IS RIGHT NOW

WE BRINGING OUR SAND TO THE BEACH
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[Frameworks] Upcoming: Experiments for a Single Projector #3 PLUS 16mm workshop!

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Upcoming: Experiments for a Single Projector #3 PLUS 16mm workshop!

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** Alex MacKenzie with Stephen Wood:
EXPERIMENTS FOR A SINGLE PROJECTOR #3


Tuesday May 7, 2019 | Door 9pm, Show 9:30pm (no latecomers!)

A part of Sawdust Collector’s NEW WORKS #18

Gold Saucer, #211-207 West Hastings (Dominion Building)
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Alex MacKenzie’s third and final 16mm performance piece, Experiments for a 
Single Projector #3 promises an epic, immersive, and abstract collaboration 
with musician Stephen Wood(Multiplex Grand, Kensington Gore, The Battles, 
Destroyer). A short 16mm found film is radically transformed live using an 
analog variation on pixel stretching, with a kindred technique—granular 
synthesis—supplying the soundtrack to this new way of seeing…!

NEW WORKS: Twice a year, Sawdust Collector invites three artists to present 
short works-in-progress over the course of three shows as part of their weekly 
series at the Gold Saucer Studio.Featured are iterations of a single piece or 
new material from different projects. New Works is a set of deadlines and free 
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Re: [Frameworks] Kodachrome

[Scott Dorsey]

> So, just for the fun of it let me ask, what happens if you process
> kodachrome in C41 chemistry? Anything? Mud?

Nothing, because all the cool stuff in C41 is in the film rather than in
the processing.

Each layer of C41 has the color dyes and couplers already in there with the
silver halides and the sensitizing dyes.  On the top is the blue layer
with no sensitizing dyes, then there is a deeply dyed yellow filter layer
to block out all blue, then there are layers below sensitive to red and
green.  The red and green layers are -also- unfortunately sensitive to
blue (as natural halides are) so that yellow filter prevents them from
getting them exposed by blue light.  It's not perfect and it doesn't block
UV effectively, which is why occasionally pink flowers would photograph as
blue on older Kodacolor emulsions.

Anyway... so you expose the film and each of the layers gets a latent image
appropriate to the color it's sensitized to, and you send it to the lab.
It's first developed in an ordinary B&W developer to develop silver images,
then a color developer connects the color dyes up to the silver.  The
excess color dyes are removed in a clearing bath, the silver is bleached out,
the dyes are stabilized, any residual silver is fixed just for stability,
and the lights are turned on.

Initially in the C-22 days these were done with multiple baths, but these
days some kits have it down to just a developer/color developer and a 
blix.  Modern developing kits also do things like having multiple developers
with different temperature sensitivities which compensate for one another,
so you don't need the high precision water baths that you did when C-41
first came out.

One of the nice things have having split bleach and fix is that you can
eliminate the bleach in order to leave a B&W image on top of the color dye
image.  This gives you much lower saturation but about a stop greater
sensitivity.  It's a useful effect to lower saturation but it was also used
by press photographers in the seventies to get an extra stop out of the film.

So... if you run B&W film through C-41... you get a B&W image... then it
bleaches it away and you get a roll of blank film.  The color dyes don't
get attached because they aren't there.  Same thing happens if you were
to run Kodachrome or Agfacolor films through the C-41 machine.

E-6 is a special case because the E-6 dye coupler chemistry is very similar
to that of C-41 and they use the same color developing agent.  So you can
cross process C-41 in E-6 chemistry and vice-versa and get an image, though
your color rendition won't be anything approaching accurate.
--scott

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[Frameworks] Whisper Rapture at SF DocFest

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

My doc-opera, Whisper Rapture, will be screening 
at SF DocFest on Wednesday, June 5 at 9pm and on Friday, June 7 at 9:15pm in 
the Roxie Theater in San Francisco. It will be followed by the feature film, 
Barstow, CA.

More information and tickets for this dual-screening, 
here.

I look forward to seeing you there!

Best, Ken Paul Rosenthal
www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
www.whisperrapture.com





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