Re: [Frameworks] meditative films?

[Ruth Hayes]

Hi Kate,

You might take a look at Kirsten Lepore’s Hi 
Stranger:https://vimeo.com/190063150 . I showed it 
to my students for valentine’s day one year and they loved it.

Best,

Ruth

http://www.randommotion.com
blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr

> On Dec 11, 2019, at 3:29 PM, kate lain  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Frameworkers.  I’m teaching a multi-part film/video-making workshop for 
> high schoolers.  We’re exploring rituals of care, different self-care 
> practices, calming techniques, etc., and the students will be making a 
> collaborative collage film/video related to all that.  I’d love to show them 
> some examples of moving image works for inspiration (or send them links to 
> things they can check out on their own).
> 
> Do you have any recommendations for short films, videos, animations, gifs, 
> video art, etc. in the experimental/art vein that are that are viewable 
> online that might fit with this?  (I'm not looking for things like straight 
> documentaries on self-care or anything -- I'm thinking about works that are 
> more poetic, more in the arena of video art or experimental film.)  Note that 
> these students are brand new to experimental film, so I’m not looking for 
> particularly challenging works that could be frustrating to them.  Instead, 
> I’m looking for pieces that are slower, poetic, perhaps repetitive, 
> meditative that someone might be able to relax into.  A couple of films that 
> come to mind are Amy Halpern’s “Invocation” (except there's no digital 
> version, dang it, and I can only show digital at this school) and James 
> Whitney’s “Lapis”.  But I hope to find more works that, like "Invocation," 
> work with representational imagery—and works that, in particular, use 
> documentation/documentary-style moving images since the students will 
> recording visuals and audio at the school site where we’re working (though we 
> may do some basic animation as well).
> 
> I’m particularly interested in works by artists of color and queer artists, 
> but I’m open to other suggestions as well.  Thank you in advance for any 
> recommendations!
> 
> Best,
> Kate Lain
> 
> -- 
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Re: [Frameworks] Camera question

[Dave Tetzlaff]

I’d take Jeff’s analysis as definitive, because Jeff... But fwiw I’ll add a wee 
bit of possible support…

It’s almost certainly not Super-8. As Jeff notes, that’s a Canon video zoom 
lens in the manhole photos. That would have matched optically with the pickup 
tube diameters of early portable BW video cameras, but been too long for any 
kind of 8mm film format. I’m also not aware of any S8 camera by Nizo or anyone 
else that came with a C-Mount and was that size and shape. 

Here are some pix of the Concord I found on Google.

https://is.gd/F5BV8n

https://is.gd/H4YPCF

The manhole pix appear appear to match the front of the Concord: position and 
size of the badge, ring around the mount on the body. The Beatles press 
conference pic appears to match the rear of the Concord: location and size of 
connectors. The top and bottom corners of the case appear to have a different 
contour on Andy’s unit compared to the Concord photos online — rounded vs. 
angled – but that could be a cosmetic change between different manufacturing 
years of the same basic camera.

And indeed, the Beatles presser photo shows the camera is not connected to 
power or to a VTR. So, yeah, prop...


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Re: [Frameworks] meditative films?

[Chris Freeman]

We've shown quite a bit of meditative films at Boathouse Microcinema, so I
did a quick look through our archives.  Here's a list of some work by
Portland and NW filmmakers.  No idea how much of this is available online.

Nicole Baker - Memory of a Green World
Hannah Piper Burns - Pinctada Fucata
Lindsay Costello - Flowers are the Best Dog I've Seen
Melina Coumas - Day off Vibes
Katrina Edelen - Ritual
Eric Fox - Scape
Ariel Kirk-Gushowaty - Flood
Laura Heit - The Deep Dark
Kurtis Hough - Cryosphere
Sydney Southam - Ice Cream
Roger Stack - Readying
Micah Weber - No Stories Can Be Told
Ryder White - 1:64,000,000,000




On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 10:31 AM Jason Halprin  wrote:

> I seem to recall Amy Halpern telling me that although she hasn't released
> DVD/digital versions of her work, there are transfers made in most cases.
> You might try contacting her directly through her website to find out at
> amyhalpern.com.
>
> I would suggest COLLEEN FITZGIBBON's 1975 film RESTORING THE APPEARANCE TO
> ORDER IN 12 MIN as one that documents a ritual of self-care, in this case
> the methodical scrubbing of a filthy sink in her art studio. You can view
> an excerpt here: https://vimeo.com/21020445
>
> Strangely...I might also suggest Hollis Frampton's NOSTALGIA as an
> accessible experimental film dealing with transformation, memory, and
> ritual...if not exactly self-care.
>
> Depending on where how expansive you are with your definition of self-care
> (to include mourning, for instance) and ritual (the replacement of a
> community ritual with a personal one), I might suggest my 2007 Super 8 film
> APOSTATE UNVEILING (3 min), viewable here: https://vimeo.com/37219050
>
>
> Jason Halprin
> jihalp...@gmail.com
> jasonhalprin.com 
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 11:38 AM Christian LEBRAT <
> leb...@christian-lebrat.net> wrote:
>
>> Most of Brakhage films...
>>
>> Le 12/12/2019 à 17:26, Francisco Torres a écrit :
>> > most of Ken Jacobs films...
>> >
>> > 2019-12-12 12:15 GMT-04:00, Scott Dorsey :
>> >> First of all, this is a metafilm, some hollywood propaganda, and it is
>> >> not meditative at all, but it is a thing that students should see in
>> any
>> >> introduction to film class:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhhnFP1GWHI
>> >>
>> >> The youtube version looks terrible, if anyone knows of a better one I
>> would
>> >> love to see it.
>> >>
>> >> I guess I think of Jordan Belson's _Cycles_ as the kind of thing you
>> are
>> >> looking for.  Pennebaker's _Daybreak Express_ is a cool and beautiful
>> film
>> >> that starts slow, then becomes very upbeat and exciting, but then
>> becomes
>> >> slow and quiet again at the end.
>> >>
>> >> McLaren's _A Chairy Tale_ is kind of weird and might be a bit long for
>> >> keeping students attention, but I think it makes a point about being
>> >> loved and appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Keaton's _The Railrodder_ is on youtube and it is in many ways a kind
>> of
>> >> slow and contemplative film.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYmcN12M97o
>> >> May require some explanation about swimming the atlantic and so forth.
>> >>
>> >> So many of the abstract films I can think of are anything but slow and
>> >> contemplative...
>> >> --scott
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: [Frameworks] Maurice Maeterlinck - Death ,1911

[Eric Theise]

This?
https://www.worldofbooks.com/en-us/rare-books/maurice-maeterlinck/death/1557153922BJS


On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 10:20 AM fracto  wrote:

> I found it
> https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/ls?field1=ocr;q1=our%20eternity;a=srchls
> 
> Just type "Our Eternity" out.
>
> If someone can find a physical copy please let me know
> Best
> Giuseppe
>
> On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 at 00:34, fracto  wrote:
>
>> Only jpg
>> Giuseppe
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 at 19:17, brecht  wrote:
>>
>>> Is ebook ok? https://b-ok.cc/book/1550585/8a5450
>>>
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: giuseppe boccassini 
>>> Date: 12/10/19 18:46 (GMT+01:00)
>>> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
>>> Subject: [Frameworks] Maurice Maeterlinck - Death ,1911
>>>
>>> Hey there Frameworkers,
>>>
>>> does anyone know places where I can get this book:
>>> *Maurice Maeterlinck - Death ,1911*
>>>
>>> It seems a bit controversial edition standing on what wikipedia says:
>>> *La Mort (Our Eternity ,first published in English, incomplete version
>>> entitled Death ,1911; in enlarged and complete version in original French,
>>> 1913)*
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Have a nice day
>>> Giuseppe
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> *the tension to the invisible*
>>>
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Re: [Frameworks] meditative films?

[Jason Halprin]

I seem to recall Amy Halpern telling me that although she hasn't released
DVD/digital versions of her work, there are transfers made in most cases.
You might try contacting her directly through her website to find out at
amyhalpern.com.

I would suggest COLLEEN FITZGIBBON's 1975 film RESTORING THE APPEARANCE TO
ORDER IN 12 MIN as one that documents a ritual of self-care, in this case
the methodical scrubbing of a filthy sink in her art studio. You can view
an excerpt here: https://vimeo.com/21020445

Strangely...I might also suggest Hollis Frampton's NOSTALGIA as an
accessible experimental film dealing with transformation, memory, and
ritual...if not exactly self-care.

Depending on where how expansive you are with your definition of self-care
(to include mourning, for instance) and ritual (the replacement of a
community ritual with a personal one), I might suggest my 2007 Super 8 film
APOSTATE UNVEILING (3 min), viewable here: https://vimeo.com/37219050


Jason Halprin
jihalp...@gmail.com
jasonhalprin.com 


On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 11:38 AM Christian LEBRAT <
leb...@christian-lebrat.net> wrote:

> Most of Brakhage films...
>
> Le 12/12/2019 à 17:26, Francisco Torres a écrit :
> > most of Ken Jacobs films...
> >
> > 2019-12-12 12:15 GMT-04:00, Scott Dorsey :
> >> First of all, this is a metafilm, some hollywood propaganda, and it is
> >> not meditative at all, but it is a thing that students should see in any
> >> introduction to film class:
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhhnFP1GWHI
> >>
> >> The youtube version looks terrible, if anyone knows of a better one I
> would
> >> love to see it.
> >>
> >> I guess I think of Jordan Belson's _Cycles_ as the kind of thing you are
> >> looking for.  Pennebaker's _Daybreak Express_ is a cool and beautiful
> film
> >> that starts slow, then becomes very upbeat and exciting, but then
> becomes
> >> slow and quiet again at the end.
> >>
> >> McLaren's _A Chairy Tale_ is kind of weird and might be a bit long for
> >> keeping students attention, but I think it makes a point about being
> >> loved and appreciated.
> >>
> >> Keaton's _The Railrodder_ is on youtube and it is in many ways a kind of
> >> slow and contemplative film.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYmcN12M97o
> >> May require some explanation about swimming the atlantic and so forth.
> >>
> >> So many of the abstract films I can think of are anything but slow and
> >> contemplative...
> >> --scott
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Frameworks] Maurice Maeterlinck - Death ,1911

[fracto]

I found it
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/ls?field1=ocr;q1=our%20eternity;a=srchls

Just type "Our Eternity" out.

If someone can find a physical copy please let me know
Best
Giuseppe

On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 at 00:34, fracto  wrote:

> Only jpg
> Giuseppe
>
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 at 19:17, brecht  wrote:
>
>> Is ebook ok? https://b-ok.cc/book/1550585/8a5450
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: giuseppe boccassini 
>> Date: 12/10/19 18:46 (GMT+01:00)
>> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Maurice Maeterlinck - Death ,1911
>>
>> Hey there Frameworkers,
>>
>> does anyone know places where I can get this book:
>> *Maurice Maeterlinck - Death ,1911*
>>
>> It seems a bit controversial edition standing on what wikipedia says:
>> *La Mort (Our Eternity ,first published in English, incomplete version
>> entitled Death ,1911; in enlarged and complete version in original French,
>> 1913)*
>>
>> Thank you
>> Have a nice day
>> Giuseppe
>>
>>
>> --
>> Giuseppe Boccassini
>> *the tension to the invisible*
>>
>> filmmaker 
>> lightcone 
>> fracto
>> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Camera question

[Nicholas Kovats]

Spot on, Jeff.

Is this the  Concord MTC-11 that you mentioned regarding the Beatles press
conference?

"Andy Warhol, right, waits among the photographers at a Beatles press
conference in New York, October, 1964
Photograph: Tony Ray Jones/Getty Images/SSPL"

https://www.theguardian.com/music/gallery/2014/jan/29/thebeatles-ringo-starr#img-7


On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 7:14 PM Jeff Kreines  wrote:

> Claire:
>
> The camera is a Concord MTC-11, a relatively cheap and compact B video
> camera.  Mostly used for surveillance.  Warhol used one in August, 1965
> when Norelco lent him a videotape recorder (in addition to the Norelco
> camera).
>
> He apparently carried it around as a fetish object/prop, since in most of
> these situations the camera wasn’t attached to a recorder or even a
> monitor.  You can see it (with a Switar lens instead of the Canon 25-100
> zoom shown in this photo) at a Beatles press conference in 1965
> (misidentified as 1964 by Getty).  It’s mentioned in a couple of books
> about Warhol, and IIRC also mentions it in the October, 1965 article in
> “Tape Recording” magazine.
>
> Blake Gopnik and Greg Pierce asked me about it last year, but apparently
> for a different book.
>
>
> Jeff Kreines
> Kinetta
> j...@kinetta.com
> kinetta.com
>
> On Dec 11, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Claire Henry, Curatorial <
> claire_he...@whitney.org> wrote:
>
> Ack, here’s the link.  Apologies!
>
> Claire
>
>
>
> https://pro.magnumphotos.com/Catalogue/Burt-Glinn/1965/USA-NYC-Andy-WARHOL-Edie-SEDGWICK-and-Chuck-WEIN-NN112607.html
>
>
> *From:* FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Claire Henry,
> Curatorial
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 11, 2019 4:00 PM
> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List (frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com) <
> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> *Cc:* Jessica Palinski, Curatorial 
> *Subject:* [Frameworks] Camera question
>
> Hi Frameworkers!
>
> We need some help identifying a camera in a photo of Warhol for our
> catalogue raisonné.  Does anyone know what kind of camera Warhol is holding
> in these photos by Burt Glinn from 1965?  I’m thinking Super 8, but am
> unsure.  If anyone could provide any help that would be amazing and very
> welcomed.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Claire
>
>
> Claire K. Henry
> Assistant Curator
> The Andy Warhol Film Project
> Whitney Museum of American Art
> 99 Gansevoort Street
> New York, NY 10014
> Tel: 212 570 7740
> Fax: 212 929 2019
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Re: [Frameworks] Camera question

[Claire Henry, Curatorial]

Hi Jeff and Everyone,

Many thanks for weighing in!  It’s truly appreciated.  Yes, that appears to be 
the same camera as the one AW holds at the Beatles press conference, but with 
the lens swapped.  I remember that exchange last year about the press 
conference photo with Gopnik and Pierce.  That was for Gopnik’s book.

Cheers to all!

Claire


From: Jeff Kreines [mailto:j...@kinetta.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 7:15 PM
To: Frameworks Discussion List ; Claire Henry, 
Curatorial 
Cc: Jeff Kreines ; Jessica Palinski, Curatorial 

Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Camera question

Claire:

The camera is a Concord MTC-11, a relatively cheap and compact B video 
camera.  Mostly used for surveillance.  Warhol used one in August, 1965 when 
Norelco lent him a videotape recorder (in addition to the Norelco camera).

He apparently carried it around as a fetish object/prop, since in most of these 
situations the camera wasn’t attached to a recorder or even a monitor.  You can 
see it (with a Switar lens instead of the Canon 25-100 zoom shown in this 
photo) at a Beatles press conference in 1965 (misidentified as 1964 by Getty).  
It’s mentioned in a couple of books about Warhol, and IIRC also mentions it in 
the October, 1965 article in “Tape Recording” magazine.

Blake Gopnik and Greg Pierce asked me about it last year, but apparently for a 
different book.


Jeff Kreines
Kinetta
j...@kinetta.com
kinetta.com


On Dec 11, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Claire Henry, Curatorial 
mailto:claire_he...@whitney.org>> wrote:

Ack, here’s the link.  Apologies!

Claire


https://pro.magnumphotos.com/Catalogue/Burt-Glinn/1965/USA-NYC-Andy-WARHOL-Edie-SEDGWICK-and-Chuck-WEIN-NN112607.html


From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of 
Claire Henry, Curatorial
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 4:00 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
(frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com) 
mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>>
Cc: Jessica Palinski, Curatorial 
mailto:jessica_palin...@whitney.org>>
Subject: [Frameworks] Camera question

Hi Frameworkers!

We need some help identifying a camera in a photo of Warhol for our catalogue 
raisonné.  Does anyone know what kind of camera Warhol is holding in these 
photos by Burt Glinn from 1965?  I’m thinking Super 8, but am unsure.  If 
anyone could provide any help that would be amazing and very welcomed.


Thanks!

Claire


Claire K. Henry
Assistant Curator
The Andy Warhol Film Project
Whitney Museum of American Art
99 Gansevoort Street
New York, NY 10014
Tel: 212 570 7740
Fax: 212 929 2019

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Re: [Frameworks] meditative films?

[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Hi Kate,

My film, Crooked Beauty, fits the bill for 
everything you've listed, including the subject being a queer artist (though 
that's not referred to in the film). The film embodies mental health struggles 
through natural and urban landscapes. It's very provocative but also very 
beautiful, transformative, and ultimately redemptive. More info 
here. I've presented it 
to audiences of all ages, including highschoolers, internationally. Please 
contact me off list if you'd like to make an institutional purchase.

Best, Ken





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Re: [Frameworks] meditative films?

[Christian LEBRAT]

Most of Brakhage films...

Le 12/12/2019 à 17:26, Francisco Torres a écrit :

most of Ken Jacobs films...

2019-12-12 12:15 GMT-04:00, Scott Dorsey :

First of all, this is a metafilm, some hollywood propaganda, and it is
not meditative at all, but it is a thing that students should see in any
introduction to film class:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhhnFP1GWHI

The youtube version looks terrible, if anyone knows of a better one I would
love to see it.

I guess I think of Jordan Belson's _Cycles_ as the kind of thing you are
looking for.  Pennebaker's _Daybreak Express_ is a cool and beautiful film
that starts slow, then becomes very upbeat and exciting, but then becomes
slow and quiet again at the end.

McLaren's _A Chairy Tale_ is kind of weird and might be a bit long for
keeping students attention, but I think it makes a point about being
loved and appreciated.

Keaton's _The Railrodder_ is on youtube and it is in many ways a kind of
slow and contemplative film.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYmcN12M97o
May require some explanation about swimming the atlantic and so forth.

So many of the abstract films I can think of are anything but slow and
contemplative...
--scott



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Re: [Frameworks] meditative films?

[Francisco Torres]

most of Ken Jacobs films...

2019-12-12 12:15 GMT-04:00, Scott Dorsey :
> First of all, this is a metafilm, some hollywood propaganda, and it is
> not meditative at all, but it is a thing that students should see in any
> introduction to film class:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhhnFP1GWHI
>
> The youtube version looks terrible, if anyone knows of a better one I would
> love to see it.
>
> I guess I think of Jordan Belson's _Cycles_ as the kind of thing you are
> looking for.  Pennebaker's _Daybreak Express_ is a cool and beautiful film
> that starts slow, then becomes very upbeat and exciting, but then becomes
> slow and quiet again at the end.
>
> McLaren's _A Chairy Tale_ is kind of weird and might be a bit long for
> keeping students attention, but I think it makes a point about being
> loved and appreciated.
>
> Keaton's _The Railrodder_ is on youtube and it is in many ways a kind of
> slow and contemplative film.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYmcN12M97o
> May require some explanation about swimming the atlantic and so forth.
>
> So many of the abstract films I can think of are anything but slow and
> contemplative...
> --scott
>
>
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Re: [Frameworks] meditative films?

[Scott Dorsey]

First of all, this is a metafilm, some hollywood propaganda, and it is
not meditative at all, but it is a thing that students should see in any
introduction to film class:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhhnFP1GWHI

The youtube version looks terrible, if anyone knows of a better one I would
love to see it.

I guess I think of Jordan Belson's _Cycles_ as the kind of thing you are
looking for.  Pennebaker's _Daybreak Express_ is a cool and beautiful film
that starts slow, then becomes very upbeat and exciting, but then becomes
slow and quiet again at the end.  

McLaren's _A Chairy Tale_ is kind of weird and might be a bit long for
keeping students attention, but I think it makes a point about being
loved and appreciated.

Keaton's _The Railrodder_ is on youtube and it is in many ways a kind of
slow and contemplative film.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYmcN12M97o
May require some explanation about swimming the atlantic and so forth.

So many of the abstract films I can think of are anything but slow and 
contemplative...
--scott



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