Re: [Frameworks] crowd sourced work?
+ 1 on what flick wrote but i would ad that you can use mpeg stream clip to transcode bizaare files http://www.squared5.com/ and i like much more than yousendit - which screwed up my mac so i had to kick it off - we transfer - is great - it is web based sorry i cannot get the link i am in russia and google is routing me some weird place when i try On 9/22/12, victoria waghorn v...@punk-monk.com wrote: hihi so i run a crowd sourced film festival in australia [15Mb of FAME] and it's all onsite so we deal with physical submissions over the lead-up duration of a couple of days of footage which is then collated and edited over 48 hours or so... it's a rather mammothian task as the festival while not enormous involves well over 5000 bodies. thankfully not that many submit footage... we deal with raw files [mpeg4/mov files] from mostly phones and it's just a direct upload of data via USB etc with a team of uber punk monk peeps managing it onsite. it's all rather hectic. looking forward to seeing/hearing about your project further. here's what we did in the first year... http://www.15mb-of-fame.tv/ On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:35 AM, flick harrison fl...@flickharrison.comwrote: Interesting question. 1. GETTING THE FILES Yousendit or Dropbox might be good ways to get the files, the size limits are better on dropbox. But any files you get from other people add to your own quota so you'd have to be really organized to get everything happening without maybe confounding your senders. I would think a self-hosted blind-drop FTP server, i.e. a one-way web interface so they could send you raw files. Never set one up but I've seen them. In any case - if web interface is too hard to do then you have to expect the shooters to understand FTP. You could ask people to post full-quality versions on youtube and then rip the files with some sort of youtube downloading plugin. This would be clunky and usually results in (BIG!) quality loss. Vimeo would work, since there's an option to leave the full-quality file as a download link for anyone who sees the video. You can password-protect videos there so they aren't available to the general public. But then folks would have to sign up for a vimeo account and understand how to get a reasonable-quality file on there (max 1 HD upload per week, 500Mb total files per week, thus more headaches). But, for instance, can shooters on an ipad really send you the full-quality master footage? Or are they limited to BS options like Share - Youtube, Facebook, etc which bypass the file system altogether? It's the result of the War on General Purpose Computing. 2. USING THE FILES This is trickier - I've done BYO gigs with kids, where everyone and sundry had a different file wrapper and codec and frame rate and file size so on. Premier or FCP should probably eat them all and crap out a movie but I did encounter the odd Chinese kid with an .mtv format or something no one had ever heard of except them. AND if they are sending the files, better hope they understand the file structure for stuff like AVCHD, and get them to send the whole PRIVATE folder and that kinda thing. Etc etc. The deal is that even with good pre-production discussions between two people, surprises crop up - so sending out a call to the general public is asking for trouble. But I'm interested in the same kinds of projects so please let me know how it develops! Good Luck! -Flick -- ** WHERE'S MY ARTICLE, WORLD? *http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Harrison ** FLICK's WEBSITE: http://www.flickharrison.com * [image: Zero for Conduct - Flick's News]http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ZeroForConduct/~6/1 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- victoria waghorn founder // filmmaker punk monk propaganda a. the corner shop 144 henderson rd alexandria. NSW e. v...@punk-monk.com m. +61[0]412 534 384 -- Cari Machet NYC 646-436-7795 carimac...@gmail.com AIM carismachet Skype carimachet - 646-652-6434 Syria +963-099 277 3243 Amman +962 077 636 9407 Berlin +49 152 11779219 Twitter: @carimachet https://twitter.com/carimachet Ruh-roh, this is now necessary: This email is intended only for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this information, dissimination, distribution, or copying of this email without permission is strictly prohibited. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] crowd sourced work?
wow - you should try contacting the guy he would love to hear that i am sure - i have had some minimal contact with him and he is great On 9/22/12, victoria waghorn v...@punk-monk.com wrote: mpeg streamclip has saved my life so many times On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote: + 1 on what flick wrote but i would ad that you can use mpeg stream clip to transcode bizaare files http://www.squared5.com/ and i like much more than yousendit - which screwed up my mac so i had to kick it off - we transfer - is great - it is web based sorry i cannot get the link i am in russia and google is routing me some weird place when i try On 9/22/12, victoria waghorn v...@punk-monk.com wrote: hihi so i run a crowd sourced film festival in australia [15Mb of FAME] and it's all onsite so we deal with physical submissions over the lead-up duration of a couple of days of footage which is then collated and edited over 48 hours or so... it's a rather mammothian task as the festival while not enormous involves well over 5000 bodies. thankfully not that many submit footage... we deal with raw files [mpeg4/mov files] from mostly phones and it's just a direct upload of data via USB etc with a team of uber punk monk peeps managing it onsite. it's all rather hectic. looking forward to seeing/hearing about your project further. here's what we did in the first year... http://www.15mb-of-fame.tv/ On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:35 AM, flick harrison fl...@flickharrison.comwrote: Interesting question. 1. GETTING THE FILES Yousendit or Dropbox might be good ways to get the files, the size limits are better on dropbox. But any files you get from other people add to your own quota so you'd have to be really organized to get everything happening without maybe confounding your senders. I would think a self-hosted blind-drop FTP server, i.e. a one-way web interface so they could send you raw files. Never set one up but I've seen them. In any case - if web interface is too hard to do then you have to expect the shooters to understand FTP. You could ask people to post full-quality versions on youtube and then rip the files with some sort of youtube downloading plugin. This would be clunky and usually results in (BIG!) quality loss. Vimeo would work, since there's an option to leave the full-quality file as a download link for anyone who sees the video. You can password-protect videos there so they aren't available to the general public. But then folks would have to sign up for a vimeo account and understand how to get a reasonable-quality file on there (max 1 HD upload per week, 500Mb total files per week, thus more headaches). But, for instance, can shooters on an ipad really send you the full-quality master footage? Or are they limited to BS options like Share - Youtube, Facebook, etc which bypass the file system altogether? It's the result of the War on General Purpose Computing. 2. USING THE FILES This is trickier - I've done BYO gigs with kids, where everyone and sundry had a different file wrapper and codec and frame rate and file size so on. Premier or FCP should probably eat them all and crap out a movie but I did encounter the odd Chinese kid with an .mtv format or something no one had ever heard of except them. AND if they are sending the files, better hope they understand the file structure for stuff like AVCHD, and get them to send the whole PRIVATE folder and that kinda thing. Etc etc. The deal is that even with good pre-production discussions between two people, surprises crop up - so sending out a call to the general public is asking for trouble. But I'm interested in the same kinds of projects so please let me know how it develops! Good Luck! -Flick -- ** WHERE'S MY ARTICLE, WORLD? *http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Harrison ** FLICK's WEBSITE: http://www.flickharrison.com * [image: Zero for Conduct - Flick's News]http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ZeroForConduct/~6/1 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- victoria waghorn founder // filmmaker punk monk propaganda a. the corner shop 144 henderson rd alexandria. NSW e. v...@punk-monk.com m. +61[0]412 534 384 -- Cari Machet NYC 646-436-7795 carimac...@gmail.com AIM carismachet Skype carimachet - 646-652-6434 Syria +963-099 277 3243 Amman +962 077 636 9407 Berlin +49 152 11779219 Twitter: @carimachet https://twitter.com/carimachet Ruh-roh, this is now necessary: This email is intended only for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are
Re: [Frameworks] crowd sourced work?
what a great idea cari. i might just do that! :) On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote: wow - you should try contacting the guy he would love to hear that i am sure - i have had some minimal contact with him and he is great On 9/22/12, victoria waghorn v...@punk-monk.com wrote: mpeg streamclip has saved my life so many times On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote: + 1 on what flick wrote but i would ad that you can use mpeg stream clip to transcode bizaare files http://www.squared5.com/ and i like much more than yousendit - which screwed up my mac so i had to kick it off - we transfer - is great - it is web based sorry i cannot get the link i am in russia and google is routing me some weird place when i try On 9/22/12, victoria waghorn v...@punk-monk.com wrote: hihi so i run a crowd sourced film festival in australia [15Mb of FAME] and it's all onsite so we deal with physical submissions over the lead-up duration of a couple of days of footage which is then collated and edited over 48 hours or so... it's a rather mammothian task as the festival while not enormous involves well over 5000 bodies. thankfully not that many submit footage... we deal with raw files [mpeg4/mov files] from mostly phones and it's just a direct upload of data via USB etc with a team of uber punk monk peeps managing it onsite. it's all rather hectic. looking forward to seeing/hearing about your project further. here's what we did in the first year... http://www.15mb-of-fame.tv/ On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:35 AM, flick harrison fl...@flickharrison.comwrote: Interesting question. 1. GETTING THE FILES Yousendit or Dropbox might be good ways to get the files, the size limits are better on dropbox. But any files you get from other people add to your own quota so you'd have to be really organized to get everything happening without maybe confounding your senders. I would think a self-hosted blind-drop FTP server, i.e. a one-way web interface so they could send you raw files. Never set one up but I've seen them. In any case - if web interface is too hard to do then you have to expect the shooters to understand FTP. You could ask people to post full-quality versions on youtube and then rip the files with some sort of youtube downloading plugin. This would be clunky and usually results in (BIG!) quality loss. Vimeo would work, since there's an option to leave the full-quality file as a download link for anyone who sees the video. You can password-protect videos there so they aren't available to the general public. But then folks would have to sign up for a vimeo account and understand how to get a reasonable-quality file on there (max 1 HD upload per week, 500Mb total files per week, thus more headaches). But, for instance, can shooters on an ipad really send you the full-quality master footage? Or are they limited to BS options like Share - Youtube, Facebook, etc which bypass the file system altogether? It's the result of the War on General Purpose Computing. 2. USING THE FILES This is trickier - I've done BYO gigs with kids, where everyone and sundry had a different file wrapper and codec and frame rate and file size so on. Premier or FCP should probably eat them all and crap out a movie but I did encounter the odd Chinese kid with an .mtv format or something no one had ever heard of except them. AND if they are sending the files, better hope they understand the file structure for stuff like AVCHD, and get them to send the whole PRIVATE folder and that kinda thing. Etc etc. The deal is that even with good pre-production discussions between two people, surprises crop up - so sending out a call to the general public is asking for trouble. But I'm interested in the same kinds of projects so please let me know how it develops! Good Luck! -Flick -- ** WHERE'S MY ARTICLE, WORLD? *http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Harrison ** FLICK's WEBSITE: http://www.flickharrison.com * [image: Zero for Conduct - Flick's News]http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ZeroForConduct/~6/1 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- victoria waghorn founder // filmmaker punk monk propaganda a. the corner shop 144 henderson rd alexandria. NSW e. v...@punk-monk.com m. +61[0]412 534 384 -- Cari Machet NYC 646-436-7795 carimac...@gmail.com AIM carismachet Skype carimachet - 646-652-6434 Syria
Re: [Frameworks] crowd sourced work?
Interesting question. 1. GETTING THE FILES Yousendit or Dropbox might be good ways to get the files, the size limits are better on dropbox. But any files you get from other people add to your own quota so you'd have to be really organized to get everything happening without maybe confounding your senders. I would think a self-hosted blind-drop FTP server, i.e. a one-way web interface so they could send you raw files. Never set one up but I've seen them. In any case - if web interface is too hard to do then you have to expect the shooters to understand FTP. You could ask people to post full-quality versions on youtube and then rip the files with some sort of youtube downloading plugin. This would be clunky and usually results in (BIG!) quality loss. Vimeo would work, since there's an option to leave the full-quality file as a download link for anyone who sees the video. You can password-protect videos there so they aren't available to the general public. But then folks would have to sign up for a vimeo account and understand how to get a reasonable-quality file on there (max 1 HD upload per week, 500Mb total files per week, thus more headaches). But, for instance, can shooters on an ipad really send you the full-quality master footage? Or are they limited to BS options like Share - Youtube, Facebook, etc which bypass the file system altogether? It's the result of the War on General Purpose Computing. 2. USING THE FILES This is trickier - I've done BYO gigs with kids, where everyone and sundry had a different file wrapper and codec and frame rate and file size so on. Premier or FCP should probably eat them all and crap out a movie but I did encounter the odd Chinese kid with an .mtv format or something no one had ever heard of except them. AND if they are sending the files, better hope they understand the file structure for stuff like AVCHD, and get them to send the whole PRIVATE folder and that kinda thing. Etc etc. The deal is that even with good pre-production discussions between two people, surprises crop up - so sending out a call to the general public is asking for trouble. But I'm interested in the same kinds of projects so please let me know how it develops! Good Luck! -Flick -- * WHERE'S MY ARTICLE, WORLD? http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Harrison * FLICK's WEBSITE: http://www.flickharrison.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks