Re: [Frameworks] crowd sourced work?

2012-09-22 Thread Cari Machet
+ 1 on what flick wrote

but i would ad that you can use mpeg stream clip to transcode bizaare files

http://www.squared5.com/

and i like much more than yousendit - which screwed up my mac so i had
to kick it off -

we transfer - is great - it is web based

sorry i cannot get the link i am in russia and google is routing me
some weird place when i try

On 9/22/12, victoria waghorn v...@punk-monk.com wrote:
 hihi

 so i run a crowd sourced film festival in australia [15Mb of FAME] and it's
 all onsite so we deal with physical submissions over the lead-up duration
 of a couple of days of footage which is then collated and edited over 48
 hours or so... it's a rather mammothian task as the festival while not
 enormous involves well over 5000 bodies. thankfully not that many submit
 footage...

 we deal with raw files [mpeg4/mov files] from mostly phones and it's just a
 direct upload of data via USB etc with a team of uber punk monk peeps
 managing it onsite. it's all rather hectic.

 looking forward to seeing/hearing about your project further.

 here's what we did in the first year...

 http://www.15mb-of-fame.tv/

 On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:35 AM, flick harrison
 fl...@flickharrison.comwrote:

 Interesting question.

 1. GETTING THE FILES

 Yousendit or Dropbox might be good ways to get the files, the size limits
 are better on dropbox.  But any files you get from other people add to
 your
 own quota so you'd have to be really organized to get everything
 happening
 without maybe confounding your senders.

 I would think a self-hosted blind-drop FTP server, i.e. a one-way web
 interface so they could send you raw files.  Never set one up but I've
 seen
 them.  In any case - if web interface is too hard to do then you have to
 expect the shooters to understand FTP.

 You could ask people to post full-quality versions on youtube and then
 rip
 the files with some sort of youtube downloading plugin.  This would be
 clunky and usually results in (BIG!) quality loss.

 Vimeo would work, since there's an option to leave the full-quality file
 as a download link for anyone who sees the video.  You can
 password-protect
 videos there so they aren't available to the general public.  But then
 folks would have to sign up for a vimeo account and understand how to get
 a
 reasonable-quality file on there (max 1 HD upload per week, 500Mb total
 files per week, thus more headaches).

 But, for instance, can shooters on an ipad really send you the
 full-quality master footage?  Or are they limited to BS options like
 Share
 - Youtube, Facebook, etc which bypass the file system altogether?  It's
 the result of the War on General Purpose Computing.

 2. USING THE FILES

 This is trickier - I've done BYO gigs with kids, where everyone and
 sundry
 had a different file wrapper and codec and frame rate and file size so
 on.
  Premier or FCP should probably eat them all and crap out a movie but I
 did
 encounter the odd Chinese kid with an .mtv format or something no one had
 ever heard of except them.

 AND if they are sending the files, better hope they understand the file
 structure for stuff like AVCHD, and get them to send the whole PRIVATE
 folder and that kinda thing.  Etc etc.

 The deal is that even with good pre-production discussions between two
 people, surprises crop up - so sending out a call to the general public
 is
 asking for trouble.  But I'm interested in the same kinds of projects so
 please let me know how it develops!

 Good Luck!

 -Flick



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Re: [Frameworks] crowd sourced work?

2012-09-22 Thread Cari Machet
wow - you should try contacting the guy he would love to hear that i
am sure - i have had some minimal contact with him and he is great

On 9/22/12, victoria waghorn v...@punk-monk.com wrote:
 mpeg streamclip has saved my life so many times

 On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote:

 + 1 on what flick wrote

 but i would ad that you can use mpeg stream clip to transcode bizaare
 files

 http://www.squared5.com/

 and i like much more than yousendit - which screwed up my mac so i had
 to kick it off -

 we transfer - is great - it is web based

 sorry i cannot get the link i am in russia and google is routing me
 some weird place when i try

 On 9/22/12, victoria waghorn v...@punk-monk.com wrote:
  hihi
 
  so i run a crowd sourced film festival in australia [15Mb of FAME] and
 it's
  all onsite so we deal with physical submissions over the lead-up
  duration
  of a couple of days of footage which is then collated and edited over
  48
  hours or so... it's a rather mammothian task as the festival while not
  enormous involves well over 5000 bodies. thankfully not that many
  submit
  footage...
 
  we deal with raw files [mpeg4/mov files] from mostly phones and it's
 just a
  direct upload of data via USB etc with a team of uber punk monk peeps
  managing it onsite. it's all rather hectic.
 
  looking forward to seeing/hearing about your project further.
 
  here's what we did in the first year...
 
  http://www.15mb-of-fame.tv/
 
  On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:35 AM, flick harrison
  fl...@flickharrison.comwrote:
 
  Interesting question.
 
  1. GETTING THE FILES
 
  Yousendit or Dropbox might be good ways to get the files, the size
 limits
  are better on dropbox.  But any files you get from other people add to
  your
  own quota so you'd have to be really organized to get everything
  happening
  without maybe confounding your senders.
 
  I would think a self-hosted blind-drop FTP server, i.e. a one-way web
  interface so they could send you raw files.  Never set one up but I've
  seen
  them.  In any case - if web interface is too hard to do then you have
  to
  expect the shooters to understand FTP.
 
  You could ask people to post full-quality versions on youtube and then
  rip
  the files with some sort of youtube downloading plugin.  This would be
  clunky and usually results in (BIG!) quality loss.
 
  Vimeo would work, since there's an option to leave the full-quality
  file
  as a download link for anyone who sees the video.  You can
  password-protect
  videos there so they aren't available to the general public.  But then
  folks would have to sign up for a vimeo account and understand how to
 get
  a
  reasonable-quality file on there (max 1 HD upload per week, 500Mb
  total
  files per week, thus more headaches).
 
  But, for instance, can shooters on an ipad really send you the
  full-quality master footage?  Or are they limited to BS options like
  Share
  - Youtube, Facebook, etc which bypass the file system altogether?
  It's
  the result of the War on General Purpose Computing.
 
  2. USING THE FILES
 
  This is trickier - I've done BYO gigs with kids, where everyone and
  sundry
  had a different file wrapper and codec and frame rate and file size so
  on.
   Premier or FCP should probably eat them all and crap out a movie but
  I
  did
  encounter the odd Chinese kid with an .mtv format or something no one
 had
  ever heard of except them.
 
  AND if they are sending the files, better hope they understand the
  file
  structure for stuff like AVCHD, and get them to send the whole
  PRIVATE
  folder and that kinda thing.  Etc etc.
 
  The deal is that even with good pre-production discussions between two
  people, surprises crop up - so sending out a call to the general
  public
  is
  asking for trouble.  But I'm interested in the same kinds of projects
  so
  please let me know how it develops!
 
  Good Luck!
 
  -Flick
 
 
 
  --
  ** WHERE'S MY ARTICLE, WORLD?
  *http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Harrison
 
  ** FLICK's WEBSITE: http://www.flickharrison.com *
 
  [image: Zero for Conduct - Flick's
  News]http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ZeroForConduct/~6/1
 
 
 
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  a.   the corner shop
  144 henderson rd
   alexandria. NSW
  e. v...@punk-monk.com
  m. +61[0]412 534 384
 


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Re: [Frameworks] crowd sourced work?

2012-09-22 Thread victoria waghorn
what a great idea cari. i might just do that! :)

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote:

 wow - you should try contacting the guy he would love to hear that i
 am sure - i have had some minimal contact with him and he is great

 On 9/22/12, victoria waghorn v...@punk-monk.com wrote:
  mpeg streamclip has saved my life so many times
 
  On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  + 1 on what flick wrote
 
  but i would ad that you can use mpeg stream clip to transcode bizaare
  files
 
  http://www.squared5.com/
 
  and i like much more than yousendit - which screwed up my mac so i had
  to kick it off -
 
  we transfer - is great - it is web based
 
  sorry i cannot get the link i am in russia and google is routing me
  some weird place when i try
 
  On 9/22/12, victoria waghorn v...@punk-monk.com wrote:
   hihi
  
   so i run a crowd sourced film festival in australia [15Mb of FAME] and
  it's
   all onsite so we deal with physical submissions over the lead-up
   duration
   of a couple of days of footage which is then collated and edited over
   48
   hours or so... it's a rather mammothian task as the festival while not
   enormous involves well over 5000 bodies. thankfully not that many
   submit
   footage...
  
   we deal with raw files [mpeg4/mov files] from mostly phones and it's
  just a
   direct upload of data via USB etc with a team of uber punk monk peeps
   managing it onsite. it's all rather hectic.
  
   looking forward to seeing/hearing about your project further.
  
   here's what we did in the first year...
  
   http://www.15mb-of-fame.tv/
  
   On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:35 AM, flick harrison
   fl...@flickharrison.comwrote:
  
   Interesting question.
  
   1. GETTING THE FILES
  
   Yousendit or Dropbox might be good ways to get the files, the size
  limits
   are better on dropbox.  But any files you get from other people add
 to
   your
   own quota so you'd have to be really organized to get everything
   happening
   without maybe confounding your senders.
  
   I would think a self-hosted blind-drop FTP server, i.e. a one-way web
   interface so they could send you raw files.  Never set one up but
 I've
   seen
   them.  In any case - if web interface is too hard to do then you have
   to
   expect the shooters to understand FTP.
  
   You could ask people to post full-quality versions on youtube and
 then
   rip
   the files with some sort of youtube downloading plugin.  This would
 be
   clunky and usually results in (BIG!) quality loss.
  
   Vimeo would work, since there's an option to leave the full-quality
   file
   as a download link for anyone who sees the video.  You can
   password-protect
   videos there so they aren't available to the general public.  But
 then
   folks would have to sign up for a vimeo account and understand how to
  get
   a
   reasonable-quality file on there (max 1 HD upload per week, 500Mb
   total
   files per week, thus more headaches).
  
   But, for instance, can shooters on an ipad really send you the
   full-quality master footage?  Or are they limited to BS options like
   Share
   - Youtube, Facebook, etc which bypass the file system altogether?
   It's
   the result of the War on General Purpose Computing.
  
   2. USING THE FILES
  
   This is trickier - I've done BYO gigs with kids, where everyone and
   sundry
   had a different file wrapper and codec and frame rate and file size
 so
   on.
Premier or FCP should probably eat them all and crap out a movie but
   I
   did
   encounter the odd Chinese kid with an .mtv format or something no one
  had
   ever heard of except them.
  
   AND if they are sending the files, better hope they understand the
   file
   structure for stuff like AVCHD, and get them to send the whole
   PRIVATE
   folder and that kinda thing.  Etc etc.
  
   The deal is that even with good pre-production discussions between
 two
   people, surprises crop up - so sending out a call to the general
   public
   is
   asking for trouble.  But I'm interested in the same kinds of projects
   so
   please let me know how it develops!
  
   Good Luck!
  
   -Flick
  
  
  
   --
   ** WHERE'S MY ARTICLE, WORLD?
   *http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Harrison
  
   ** FLICK's WEBSITE: http://www.flickharrison.com *
  
   [image: Zero for Conduct - Flick's
   News]http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ZeroForConduct/~6/1
  
  
  
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   punk monk propaganda
   a.   the corner shop
   144 henderson rd
alexandria. NSW
   e. v...@punk-monk.com
   m. +61[0]412 534 384
  
 
 
  --
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  NYC 646-436-7795
  carimac...@gmail.com
  AIM carismachet
  Skype carimachet - 646-652-6434
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Re: [Frameworks] crowd sourced work?

2012-09-20 Thread flick harrison
Interesting question.

1. GETTING THE FILES

Yousendit or Dropbox might be good ways to get the files, the size limits are 
better on dropbox.  But any files you get from other people add to your own 
quota so you'd have to be really organized to get everything happening without 
maybe confounding your senders.

I would think a self-hosted blind-drop FTP server, i.e. a one-way web interface 
so they could send you raw files.  Never set one up but I've seen them.  In any 
case - if web interface is too hard to do then you have to expect the shooters 
to understand FTP.

You could ask people to post full-quality versions on youtube and then rip the 
files with some sort of youtube downloading plugin.  This would be clunky and 
usually results in (BIG!) quality loss.

Vimeo would work, since there's an option to leave the full-quality file as a 
download link for anyone who sees the video.  You can password-protect videos 
there so they aren't available to the general public.  But then folks would 
have to sign up for a vimeo account and understand how to get a 
reasonable-quality file on there (max 1 HD upload per week, 500Mb total files 
per week, thus more headaches).

But, for instance, can shooters on an ipad really send you the full-quality 
master footage?  Or are they limited to BS options like Share - Youtube, 
Facebook, etc which bypass the file system altogether?  It's the result of the 
War on General Purpose Computing.

2. USING THE FILES

This is trickier - I've done BYO gigs with kids, where everyone and sundry had 
a different file wrapper and codec and frame rate and file size so on.  Premier 
or FCP should probably eat them all and crap out a movie but I did encounter 
the odd Chinese kid with an .mtv format or something no one had ever heard of 
except them.

AND if they are sending the files, better hope they understand the file 
structure for stuff like AVCHD, and get them to send the whole PRIVATE folder 
and that kinda thing.  Etc etc.

The deal is that even with good pre-production discussions between two people, 
surprises crop up - so sending out a call to the general public is asking for 
trouble.  But I'm interested in the same kinds of projects so please let me 
know how it develops!

Good Luck!

-Flick



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http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Harrison

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