Re: [Frameworks] wide angle projector lens?
> thanks scott. > what do you mean by the mirrors? If you look at a typical rear projection system, they will often have a projector pointing into a mirror, pointing into a second mirror pointing into the screen. This allows you to effectively increase the total throw to the screen when you don't have the space to do it directly. This was very popular for small commercial theatres shoehorned into shop spaces back in the sixties and seventies (and that mostly means porno houses but also includes art houses and the occasional all-surf-movie theatre). I don't know of any current theatres using these systems other than the Brattle up in Boston. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ritterbin/3330731537/ The booth at the Brattle is a major pain in the neck, you can't see a damn thing out the porthole. I don't know how they manage to run anything in focus at all. Draper makes some single-mirror and double-mirror systems intended for small video projection systems which might be adaptable. http://www.draperinc.com/projectionscreens/RPX.asp The RPX has the projector down below, pointing into a mirror, which gives you perhaps an additional four feet of throw . In addition you gain a foot or two since the mirror can be located closer to the wall than the front of the projector could be. I think you could use this with a front projection 16mm system, although with only a single mirror the image would be reversed for front projection. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] wide angle projector lens?
thanks scott. what do you mean by the mirrors? On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: > I think Buhl made a half-inch lens for the B&H projectors. It was ungodly > slow and had awful edge-to-edge sharpness but it sort of worked. > > I may have one around somewhere, I will have to look. > > Bell and Howell made a 5/8" lens for in-flight movie systems on airplanes. > It also had sharpness issues and a lot of barrel distortion. > > You could try asking Neil at Cardinal Sound and Motion Picture in Maryland > about renting super wide lenses. 301-621-2500. I know that they have at > least some B&H 5/8" lenses in their rental stock. I worry, though, that > you > are going to wind up spending an awful lot of money for very poor image > quality. > > You might be better off with a couple of large front-surface mirrors and a > 1" lens. > --scott > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] wide angle projector lens?
I think Buhl made a half-inch lens for the B&H projectors. It was ungodly slow and had awful edge-to-edge sharpness but it sort of worked. I may have one around somewhere, I will have to look. Bell and Howell made a 5/8" lens for in-flight movie systems on airplanes. It also had sharpness issues and a lot of barrel distortion. You could try asking Neil at Cardinal Sound and Motion Picture in Maryland about renting super wide lenses. 301-621-2500. I know that they have at least some B&H 5/8" lenses in their rental stock. I worry, though, that you are going to wind up spending an awful lot of money for very poor image quality. You might be better off with a couple of large front-surface mirrors and a 1" lens. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] wide angle projector lens?
i saw one on an eiki yesterday at the jack goldstein show at the OCMA (if anyone lives near LA i highly recommend it)! i know you can rent them (and loopers) from http://www.16mmfilmlooper.com/which is in the netherlands, but I am looking for something a little more local. On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:34 AM, 40 Frames wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:29 AM, mariah garnett > wrote: > >> its for installing in a gallery - i want the projector to be able to be >> about 4-5 ft away from the wall and get a big, 6x5ish image. >> > > > Hm. There is likely such a lens, though I have never seen one. Others on > the list might have an idea of how to make that work. > > Alain > > > > > >> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:25 AM, 40 Frames wrote: >> >>> >>> That's wide. A 16mm lens (something like .625") is very wide. What is >>> the application? >>> >>> Alain >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:34 AM, mariah garnett >> > wrote: >>> Hi, does anyone know (outside of ebay) where I should look for a 9,5mm (or comparable) projector lens for 16 projectors? thanks! ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> >>> -- >>> 40 FRAMES >>> Alain LeTourneau >>> Pam Minty >>> >>> 40 FRAMES >>> 5232 North Williams Avenue >>> Portland, Oregon 97217 >>> USA >>> >>> +1 503 231 6548 >>> www.40frames.org >>> www.16mmdirectory.org >>> www.emptyquarterfilm.org >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> > > > -- > 40 FRAMES > Alain LeTourneau > Pam Minty > > 40 FRAMES > 5232 North Williams Avenue > Portland, Oregon 97217 > USA > > +1 503 231 6548 > www.40frames.org > www.16mmdirectory.org > www.emptyquarterfilm.org > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] wide angle projector lens?
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:29 AM, mariah garnett wrote: > its for installing in a gallery - i want the projector to be able to be > about 4-5 ft away from the wall and get a big, 6x5ish image. > Hm. There is likely such a lens, though I have never seen one. Others on the list might have an idea of how to make that work. Alain > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:25 AM, 40 Frames wrote: > >> >> That's wide. A 16mm lens (something like .625") is very wide. What is the >> application? >> >> Alain >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:34 AM, mariah garnett >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> does anyone know (outside of ebay) where I should look for a 9,5mm (or >>> comparable) projector lens for 16 projectors? >>> thanks! >>> >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> 40 FRAMES >> Alain LeTourneau >> Pam Minty >> >> 40 FRAMES >> 5232 North Williams Avenue >> Portland, Oregon 97217 >> USA >> >> +1 503 231 6548 >> www.40frames.org >> www.16mmdirectory.org >> www.emptyquarterfilm.org >> >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > -- 40 FRAMES Alain LeTourneau Pam Minty 40 FRAMES 5232 North Williams Avenue Portland, Oregon 97217 USA +1 503 231 6548 www.40frames.org www.16mmdirectory.org www.emptyquarterfilm.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] wide angle projector lens?
its for installing in a gallery - i want the projector to be able to be about 4-5 ft away from the wall and get a big, 6x5ish image. On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:25 AM, 40 Frames wrote: > > That's wide. A 16mm lens (something like .625") is very wide. What is the > application? > > Alain > > > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:34 AM, mariah garnett > wrote: > >> Hi, >> does anyone know (outside of ebay) where I should look for a 9,5mm (or >> comparable) projector lens for 16 projectors? >> thanks! >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> > > > -- > 40 FRAMES > Alain LeTourneau > Pam Minty > > 40 FRAMES > 5232 North Williams Avenue > Portland, Oregon 97217 > USA > > +1 503 231 6548 > www.40frames.org > www.16mmdirectory.org > www.emptyquarterfilm.org > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] wide angle projector lens?
That's wide. A 16mm lens (something like .625") is very wide. What is the application? Alain On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:34 AM, mariah garnett wrote: > Hi, > does anyone know (outside of ebay) where I should look for a 9,5mm (or > comparable) projector lens for 16 projectors? > thanks! > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > -- 40 FRAMES Alain LeTourneau Pam Minty 40 FRAMES 5232 North Williams Avenue Portland, Oregon 97217 USA +1 503 231 6548 www.40frames.org www.16mmdirectory.org www.emptyquarterfilm.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] wide angle projector lens?
Hi, does anyone know (outside of ebay) where I should look for a 9,5mm (or comparable) projector lens for 16 projectors? thanks! ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks