Re: [Frameworks] wide angle projector lens?

2012-07-09 Thread 40 Frames
That's wide. A 16mm lens (something like .625) is very wide. What is the
application?

Alain



On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:34 AM, mariah garnett mariah.garn...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 does anyone know (outside of ebay) where I should look for a 9,5mm (or
 comparable) projector lens for 16 projectors?
 thanks!

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Re: [Frameworks] wide angle projector lens?

2012-07-09 Thread mariah garnett
its for installing in a gallery - i want the projector to be able to be
about 4-5 ft away from the wall and get a big, 6x5ish image.

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:25 AM, 40 Frames i...@40frames.org wrote:


 That's wide. A 16mm lens (something like .625) is very wide. What is the
 application?

 Alain



 On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:34 AM, mariah garnett 
 mariah.garn...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 does anyone know (outside of ebay) where I should look for a 9,5mm (or
 comparable) projector lens for 16 projectors?
 thanks!

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Re: [Frameworks] wide angle projector lens?

2012-07-09 Thread 40 Frames
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:29 AM, mariah garnett mariah.garn...@gmail.comwrote:

 its for installing in a gallery - i want the projector to be able to be
 about 4-5 ft away from the wall and get a big, 6x5ish image.



Hm. There is likely such a lens, though I have never seen one. Others on
the list might have an idea of how to make that work.

Alain






 On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:25 AM, 40 Frames i...@40frames.org wrote:


 That's wide. A 16mm lens (something like .625) is very wide. What is the
 application?

 Alain



 On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:34 AM, mariah garnett 
 mariah.garn...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 does anyone know (outside of ebay) where I should look for a 9,5mm (or
 comparable) projector lens for 16 projectors?
 thanks!

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Re: [Frameworks] wide angle projector lens?

2012-07-09 Thread mariah garnett
i saw one on an eiki yesterday at the jack goldstein show at the OCMA (if
anyone lives near LA i highly recommend it)!
i know you can rent them (and loopers) from
http://www.16mmfilmlooper.com/which is in the netherlands, but I am
looking for something a little more
local.

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:34 AM, 40 Frames i...@40frames.org wrote:



 On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:29 AM, mariah garnett 
 mariah.garn...@gmail.comwrote:

 its for installing in a gallery - i want the projector to be able to be
 about 4-5 ft away from the wall and get a big, 6x5ish image.



 Hm. There is likely such a lens, though I have never seen one. Others on
 the list might have an idea of how to make that work.

 Alain






 On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:25 AM, 40 Frames i...@40frames.org wrote:


 That's wide. A 16mm lens (something like .625) is very wide. What is
 the application?

 Alain



 On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:34 AM, mariah garnett mariah.garn...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Hi,
 does anyone know (outside of ebay) where I should look for a 9,5mm (or
 comparable) projector lens for 16 projectors?
 thanks!

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Re: [Frameworks] wide angle projector lens?

2012-07-09 Thread mariah garnett
thanks scott.
what do you mean by the mirrors?

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote:

 I think Buhl made a half-inch lens for the BH projectors.  It was ungodly
 slow and had awful edge-to-edge sharpness but it sort of worked.

 I may have one around somewhere, I will have to look.

 Bell and Howell made a 5/8 lens for in-flight movie systems on airplanes.
 It also had sharpness issues and a lot of barrel distortion.

 You could try asking Neil at Cardinal Sound and Motion Picture in Maryland
 about renting super wide lenses.  301-621-2500.  I know that they have at
 least some BH 5/8 lenses in their rental stock.  I worry, though, that
 you
 are going to wind up spending an awful lot of money for very poor image
 quality.

 You might be better off with a couple of large front-surface mirrors and a
 1 lens.
 --scott

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Re: [Frameworks] wide angle projector lens?

2012-07-09 Thread Scott Dorsey
 thanks scott.
 what do you mean by the mirrors?

If you look at a typical rear projection system, they will often have a 
projector pointing into a mirror, pointing into a second mirror pointing
into the screen.

This allows you to effectively increase the total throw to the screen
when you don't have the space to do it directly.

This was very popular for small commercial theatres shoehorned into shop
spaces back in the sixties and seventies (and that mostly means porno houses
but also includes art houses and the occasional all-surf-movie theatre).
I don't know of any current theatres using these systems other than the
Brattle up in Boston.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ritterbin/3330731537/

The booth at the Brattle is a major pain in the neck, you can't see a damn
thing out the porthole.  I don't know how they manage to run anything in focus
at all.

Draper makes some single-mirror and double-mirror systems intended for 
small video projection systems which might be adaptable.

http://www.draperinc.com/projectionscreens/RPX.asp

The RPX has the projector down below, pointing into a mirror, which gives you
perhaps an additional four feet of throw .  In addition you gain a foot or two
since the mirror can be located closer to the wall than the front of the 
projector could be.

I think you could use this with a front projection 16mm system, although with
only a single mirror the image would be reversed for front projection.
--scott
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