[Frameworks] Looping Super 8

[Imogen Pring]

Hi there,
I was wondering if anyone could help me or advise me on how to show Super 8 
film. I want to show my films with a Super 8 projector so it is in the correct 
format, but I also want to have my films on a loop. Does anyone know how to 
loop films easily? I was told that I could loop the film over spools hanging 
from the ceiling.
I would potentially have more than one film being shown through one projector - 
is it possible to loop several films? I am currently using a Eumig projector 
and my main concern is that it may overheat?
Any advice would be great!
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Re: [Frameworks] Looping Super 8

[Karl Reinsalu]

Looping Super 8mm is a tricky one. Main issue is maintaining the
installation once it's in play. Making prints of Super 8 is
a finicky business especially in colour now that we've lost Ektachrome
100D.  When the print degrades, it's either accept the scratches or strike
a new print off a monitor (which depending on your set-up will have varying
degree of success.) Elmo designed a looper that can handle 400ft of S8,
it's a wonderful piece of kit but will only work on Elmo's GS1200 or ST1200
series of projectors. It's worm-geared for perfect balance of tension on
the platter.

Making a simple loop will get the job done, but is limited to the space in
the gallery and will attract a lot more dust. This can be suspended from
the ceiling, a transport rig, or even the arms of the projector itself if
the loop is small enough.  There is also the concern of tension.  I've run
16mm all over a room, and with a solid projector the torque will pull the
film accordingly, however, i found with super 8 there is a point where
there is too much weight in the hanging film for the projector to advance
without consequences.

For multi-channel loops, you will require more than one projector unless
your intension is to just have the films spliced from head to tail.  If you
wish them to be in sync, you will need to modify each projector with a new
motor interlocked with each other unit through a motor control. (*not as
much fun as it sounds).  I wouldn't worry too much about overheating if you
are using Quartz bulbs. The old blue/black top bulbs is a different story
(*500w+!).

If you have the resources to optically print to 16mm, this format is much
easier to deal with regarding loops.  Labs can strike you as many prints as
you need; projectors are decently available, and there are places that are
around that already support this kind of gallery work.

Hope this helps!

Karl.

Technical Coordinator - Liaison of Independent Filmmakers of Toronto (
www.lift.ca)


On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Imogen Pring i.pr...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi there,

 I was wondering if anyone could help me or advise me on how to show Super
 8 film. I want to show my films with a Super 8 projector so it is in the
 correct format, but I also want to have my films on a loop. Does anyone
 know how to loop films easily? I was told that I could loop the film over
 spools hanging from the ceiling.

 I would potentially have more than one film being shown through one
 projector - is it possible to loop several films? I am currently using a
 Eumig projector and my main concern is that it may overheat?

 Any advice would be great!

 Thank you, and best wishes,
 Imogen

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[Frameworks] CAPTURE STREAMING VIDEO

[Gene Youngblood]

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Re: [Frameworks] CAPTURE STREAMING VIDEO

[Benjamin Pearson]

Hi Gene,
Though this isn't software, I use (and instruct students to use)
keepvid.comas its pretty fast and reliable. Also here is a helpful
article on other
non-software options. file2hd works quite well but has download limits.
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/capture-streaming-video-website-5-tools/



On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.netwrote:

  Can someone recommend Snapz-like software for PC that captures streaming
 video?

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Re: [Frameworks] Question For Gene Youngblood

[Francisco Torres]

Mr Youngblood-

Will that be a new version of Expanded Cinema? We need EC back in print now
more than ever. It is a mindbender of a book.

Thanks.


On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net wrote:

   Doug,
 Among other things, *Expanded Cinema* was about the moving image becoming
 electronic and therefore no longer medium-specific, and some implications
 of that.  As far as I know, Ed didn’t begin working with video until 1972,
 when he made *Scape-Mates *at*  *the Experimental Television Center at *WNET.
 Scape-Mates *was a pioneering work, however, as it was among the first,
 if not the very first, “film” in which photographed human beings interacted
 with an entirely synthetic electronic environment. If Ed had made it three
 years earlier it most certainly would have been in *Expanded Cinema*.

 I’m currently building a website that will have everything I ever wrote
 (including the review of *Relativity* in the *Los Angeles Herald-Examiner*)
 *–* except  the 150 articles I wrote for the *Los Angeles Free Press,*which 
 I’m collecting in a book. They include the original articles that
 became *Expanded Cinema.* As an added perk, there’s a lot of psychedelic
 graphics from the pages of the *Free Press* that appear for the first
 time in book form, including the amazing surrealism of Chick Strand’s
 husband Martin Muller (“Neon Park”). He’s known for his album covers, but
 these are full-page ads he did for KPPC Radio in the sixties. I’m
 reproducing them as much in memory of Chick as of Marty.

 The website should be ready this fall, and the *Free Press* book will be
 published next year. Also this fall I’m starting a blog called “Secession
 From the Broadcast,” which is about my work in radical media theory. The
 website is the past, the blog is the future. Its subtitle is “Leave the
 Culture Without Leaving the Country.” Thanks for your interest...
 **
  *From:* Doug Chaffin(Douglas Graves) dgtols...@yahoo.com
  *Sent:* Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:21 PM
 *To:* FrameWorks frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 *Subject:* [Frameworks] Question For Gene Youngblood

  I'm a big fan of your Expanded Cinema book. thank you very much for
 writing it. but i'm curious as to why you did not include anything about Ed
 Emshwiller?

 And i was wondering if you could please put up online your review of
 Relativity ?

 Best,
 *Doug Graves*


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[Frameworks] experiments in cinema

[Bernard Roddy]

Bryan, that was amazing.  If it appeared at one time that the meaning of a film 
screening were being lost, Experiments in Cinema is correcting the impression.  
I don't understand how there could be so many people in a cinema theater, night 
after night, in the middle of the week as well as on Saturday, and for 
experimental work - new work!  No classics of the avant-garde here.  On Sunday 
at noon?  For work devoted to collaborations with the earth?  In Albuquerque? 
 What is going on!  It has been a very long time since I waited in anticipation 
for a screening like I did last week - again and again.  It's not the academic 
careers sustained by such a program, or the educational value of such an 
experience to people in town: I keep thinking about what it must've been like 
early on, sitting up there in the front row during the screenings of 
particularly demanding works, at a time when film . . even video . . the whole 
theatrical experience, really,
 has seemed an anachronism.  Sitting up there, then, after listing the 
sponsors.  And how could such an event draw such sponsorship?  I don't 
understand.  I don't need to understand.  The work in video from Turkey that 
Ekrem Serder showed renewed my interest in abstraction.  Again and again a film 
was shown with an optical sound track, an experiment, really.  I didn't even 
see it all.  I could afford to be annoyed.  I could afford to walk out of a 
show early.  I could afford to be an asshole.


Bernie
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Re: [Frameworks] experiments in cinema

[Bill Basquin]

Bernard,I don't know you, but you've just written one of my favorite love letters. I especially liked: "I could afford to be annoyed."Yours in cinema,Bill Basquin-Original Message-
From: Bernard Roddy 
Sent: Apr 22, 2013 6:12 PM
To: "frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com" 
Subject: [Frameworks] experiments in cinema

Bryan, that was amazing. If it appeared at one time that the meaning of a film screening were being lost, Experiments in Cinema is correcting the impression. I don't understand how there could be so many people in a cinema theater, night after night, in the middle of the week as well as on Saturday, and for experimental work - new work! No classics of the avant-garde here. On Sunday at noon? For work devoted to "collaborations with the earth"? In Albuquerque? What is going on! It has been a very long time since I waited in anticipation for a screening like I did last week - again and again. It's not the academic careers sustained by such a program, or the educational value of such an experience to people in town: I keep thinking about what it must've been like early on,
 sitting up there in the front row during the screenings of particularly demanding works, at a time when film . . even video . . the whole theatrical experience, really, has seemed an anachronism. Sitting up there, then, after listing the sponsors. And how could such an event draw such sponsorship? I don't understand. I don't need to understand. The work in video from Turkey that Ekrem Serder showed renewed my interest in abstraction. Again and again a film was shown with an optical sound track, an experiment, really. I didn't even see it all. I could afford to be annoyed. I could afford to walk out of a show early. I could afford to be an asshole.Bernie

Bill Basquin
San Francisco, CA
415.317.7611
www.BillBasquin.com
www.sfseedswap.org
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