Re: Need Help

1999-02-10 Thread Andreas Klemm
On Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 01:47:58PM +0100, Ladavac Marino wrote:
>   and that you should
>   cd /dev
>   ./MAKEDEV
>   in order to try to recreate them.

After that one should double check, if really every disk device
has been recreated. With the new slice scheme in newer FreeBSD
versions you have to create them explicitely:

sh MAKEDEV sd0s1a
or da0s1a in even newer FreeBSD versions (>=3.0)

Make sure, that raw devices (rsd0s1a) are created as well.

But as Ladavac wrote, you should know, where you typed this
command... If you clobbered /etc, then you have to do a lot
of more things.

Best would then be to make a boot and fixit disk for your
system and restore things from backup if you have a backup ...

Andreas ///

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Re: HEADS UP: lpt driver going away

1999-02-10 Thread Andreas Klemm
> BE ADVISED that the nlpt driver will soon be renamed to lpt.

Will the lpt driver be replaced in RELENG_3 as well ?

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Global Conference: SUPER CITIES OF THE 21st CENTURY

1999-02-10 Thread William A Rosenthal
___

Please join us in Madrid from May 2-5, 1999 for the World 
Development Federation's 7th annual Global Super Projects 
Conference on SUPER CITIES OF THE 21st CENTURY.  Urban 
leaders and senior business executives from around the world will 
meet to define the components essential for cities to become 
"world class" in the next millennium.


In addition to the conference's co-host, Mayor Alvarez del Manzano 
of Madrid, other dignitaries expected to participate include: Spain's 
Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar; Germany's ex-Finance Minister 
Theo Weigel; world-renowned architect Ricardo Bofill; Olympics 
Committee President Juan Samaranch; the originator of the "World 
Cities" concept, Professor Peter Hall; and mayors from major 
metropolises worldwide.


The latest program information about the Super Cities Conference 
and a convenient registraton form may be found at our Web site, 

Please join us in Madrid from May 2-5, 1999 for the World 
Development Federation's 7th annual Global Super Projects 
Conference on SUPER CITIES OF THE 21st CENTURY.  Urban 
leaders and senior business executives from around the world will 
meet to define the components essential for cities to become 
"world class" in the next millennium.


In addition to the conference's co-host, Mayor Alvarez del Manzano 
of Madrid, other dignitaries expected to participate include: Spain's 
Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar; Germany's ex-Finance Minister 
Theo Weigel; world-renowned architect Ricardo Bofill; Olympics 
Committee President Juan Samaranch; the originator of the "World 
Cities" concept, Professor Peter Hall; and mayors from major 
metropolises worldwide.


The latest program information about the Super Cities Conference 
and a convenient registraton form may be found at our Web site, 
 http://www.conway.com/wdf/madrid99/


I hope you can join us.


Sincerely,


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Re: adding DHCP client to src/contrib/

1999-02-10 Thread Dom Mitchell
Mike Smith  writes:
> > You will get "no route to host" type messages.
> 
> Yup.  That's just the way it is - I can't imagine what alternative the
> original poster thought they could have, steal an address?  Ignore your 
> least? Get real.

Nope, just curious as to what would would happen.  I kinda realised
that if your IP address goes away, you're going to have problems
maintaining connections.  :-)  I just wondered whether we would
negotiate another one, for use by new processes... But then, you'd
still have to restart all daemons... A reboot would be quicker.

I'm not sure what NT does under those circumstances.
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Re: hang going multiuser

1999-02-10 Thread Matthew Dillon

:
:I can escape to the debugger; ps tells me I have processes 0-5 plus two
:sh's.  init is in the 'wait' state.  Is there a command to show which
:process is currently executing?  Maybe it is telling me that and I can't
:see it.
:
:The trace (same for both kernels) shows:
:
:vm_map_madvise
:madvise
:syscall(2f,2f,80a1000,1000,efb94ba8)
:Xint0x80_syscall

Just do a 'ps' ... you can tell from the flags and whether there is
a wait string.

Another thing you can try doing is a 'set -v' in /etc/rc and /etc/rc.local
to make it dump what it's doing, so you can tell exactly where it is
hanging.

-Matt
Matthew Dillon 


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Re: Heads up! /etc/rc.conf.site is dead.

1999-02-10 Thread Brian Somers
> I kinda like the /etc./defaults directory... All default files should be
> placed there.  Only things edited should be in /etc..  It'll make for a much
> smaller mess of files. I'm wondering about items like ppp examples?

They're going into /usr/share/examples/ppp soon.  I have some other 
things (like tcl scripts for answering chap challenges) that will go 
in there, and it's a more generic place

Besides, with all this activity, it'd be nice to get out of /etc 
altogether :-)

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Re: Heads up! /etc/rc.conf.site is dead.

1999-02-10 Thread Brian Somers
> On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, jack wrote:
> 
> > If /etc/rc.conf only contains changes from the defaults when 
> > man something_or_other tells the user to find and edit
> > something_or_other_flags in /etc/rc.conf the entry won't be
> > there to edit.
> 
> Why must it contain only changes?  Is there any reason it
> couldn't be a copy of the default rc.conf on a new installation?
> Over time and upgrades it may get a little out of sync with the
> default file, but by then the user/admin will most likely be
> familiar enough with configuring the system that it won't exactly
> be a stumper.
> 
> And how about this:  stick a big comment at the top of
> /etc/rc.conf suggesting that the user consult
> /etc/defaults/rc.conf for a complete list of tunable parameters.
> 
> Even in the worst case, the system behavior is exactly as it was
> before any of these changes came about.

Exactly !

I've got the equivalent of /etc/defaults/rc.conf in /usr/src/etc at 
the moment.  What have we gained ?

What are we trying to gain ?

The fundamental problem is not going to go away.  When people upgrade, 
whether it's via ``make install'' or via sysinstall, they're still 
going to have to hand-install /etc, maybe with some help from 
mergemaster or a local script.  If they don't, they'll be burned by 
a changed default value.  What we've got now in -current is a place 
to put default variable values rather than having to make /etc/rc* 
behave reasonably if /etc/rc.conf isn't updated... not much of a gain
IMHO.

As long as the /etc/rc* files don't complain if /etc/defaults 
doesn't exist, i'll be happy.  It's a waste of space when you've 
got /usr/src, and only confuses things.

> -john

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Re: umount -f

1999-02-10 Thread Mikhail Teterin
> Just to ask, have you run lsof on /phosphorus to see if it is,
> indeed, busy?

lsof is unable to stat /phosphorus, of course. But, in any case,
this should not be relevant, because the `-f' is specified...

-mi

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Re: umount -f

1999-02-10 Thread Mikhail Teterin
> > Will it ever work as it appears it should? Currently I have (on 2.2.8)
> > 
> > m...@xxx:/tmp (1032) umount -f phosphorus:/phosphorus
> > umount: /phosphorus: Device busy
> 
> >From an email from Peter Wemm:
> 
> In this situation, you need to do this:
> umount -f -t nfs phosphorus:/phosphorus
> 
> This causes umount to stat("phosphorus:/phosphorus") (which fails) rather
> than "/mnt".

Nope:

m...@xxx:/tmp (1044) umount -f -t nfs phosphorus:/phosphorus
umount: /phosphorus: Device busy

It is not, that umount hangs, it is that it cares about the device being
busy despite `-f' flag. Or so it seems... send-pr?

-mi

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Re: umount -f

1999-02-10 Thread David O'Brien
> Will it ever work as it appears it should? Currently I have (on 2.2.8)
>   
>   m...@xxx:/tmp (1032) umount -f phosphorus:/phosphorus
>   umount: /phosphorus: Device busy

>From an email from Peter Wemm:

In this situation, you need to do this:
umount -f -t nfs phosphorus:/phosphorus

This causes umount to stat("phosphorus:/phosphorus") (which fails) rather
than "/mnt".

I really don't understand all the reasons behind this, but there seems to
be a result of a lot of hackery so that:

ln -s /dev/wd0c /dev/cdrom
mount /dev/cdrom /mnt
umount /dev/cdrom /mnt
.. works.  I don't recall the problems that it has to work around, but I 
gather that at mount time the symlink is followed and "/dev/wd0c" is 
installed in the mount table - so "/dev/cdrom" would not be matched by 
umount(2).

-

bde commented that the current behavior is needed so that "/dev/cdrom"
shows up in ``mount'' w/o args instead of "/dev/wd0c".

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umount -f

1999-02-10 Thread Mikhail Teterin
Will it ever work as it appears it should? Currently I have (on 2.2.8)

m...@xxx:/tmp (1032) umount -f phosphorus:/phosphorus
umount: /phosphorus: Device busy


This is because phosphorus is unreachable and is unlikely to ever
become reachable again. Currently, a reboot is required to stop df,
etc. from hanging.

-mi

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hang going multiuser

1999-02-10 Thread Chris Timmons

I built and installed world+kernel last evening after the ibcs2 fix was
committed to unbreak the build.

When running either the new kernel or the pre-branch kernel from last
month, I hang up on the way to multi-user.  I can boot single-user, get my
ccd drive going, get the network going, run cvs with an nfs-mounted repo,
etc, etc. 

I can escape to the debugger; ps tells me I have processes 0-5 plus two
sh's.  init is in the 'wait' state.  Is there a command to show which
process is currently executing?  Maybe it is telling me that and I can't
see it.

The trace (same for both kernels) shows:

vm_map_madvise
madvise
syscall(2f,2f,80a1000,1000,efb94ba8)
Xint0x80_syscall


I also updated my /etc files, but even so the system shouldn't hang like
this if I missed something.  Something that was installed with the world
is hanging up. 

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Re: 3.1?

1999-02-10 Thread Eivind Eklund
On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 08:34:28PM -0500, Gary D. Margiotta wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Don't mean to be a pest, or a PITA by asking this, but is the 3.1 branch
> still scheduled for the middle of this month?  I haven't seen much on the
> list recently about it, but probably haven't been paying enough attention
> to it tho... Thanks!

There won't be a 3.1 branch - however, 3.1-RELEASE is still scheduled
for the middle of this month :-)

Eivind.

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Re: Syncing Disks

1999-02-10 Thread Mikhail Teterin
> the disks.  This went fine, but when he exited from single user mode,
> it again hangs on syncing disks.  This is a brand new machine, worked
> great for about 6 weeks - and this is the second machine to do this since
> the first of the year.

I had a similar problem when I upgraded to the December's 3.0 current
from February _96_ 3.0 current. Even after a clean shutdown, the root
filesystem would need TWO consecutive fsck-s to become mountable --
always. I ended up backing up and remaking the FS, after which the
problem went away. This was all very painfull, because the machine
is 486SX25 :) IDE disk

-mi


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Re: locale errors

1999-02-10 Thread D. Rock
I think I have found a solution. The problem with the current definition is,
that "ss" is folded into one character, while "ß" should be expanded to "ss"
and sorted accordingly.

I read the manual pages of colldef and found a solution, which sorted my
test patterns right.

ndex: data/de_DE.ISO_8859-1.src
===
RCS file: /data/cvs/src/usr.bin/colldef/data/de_DE.ISO_8859-1.src,v
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -c -r1.4 de_DE.ISO_8859-1.src
*** de_DE.ISO_8859-1.src1997/03/10 21:59:53 1.4
--- de_DE.ISO_8859-1.src1999/02/10 14:52:52
***
*** 3,8 
--- 3,9 
  # $Id: de_DE.ISO_8859-1.src,v 1.4 1997/03/10 21:59:53 ache Exp $
  #
  charmap map.ISO_8859-1
+ substitute "\xdf" with "ss"
  order \
  # controls
;...;;;...;;\
***
*** 29,35 
b;(c,);d;(e,,,>,);\
f;g;h;(i,,,>,);\
j;...;m;(n,);(o,,,>,,,);\
!   p;...;r;s;(,ss);t;(u,,,>,);\
v;w;x;(y,,);z;\
;;\
  #
--- 30,36 
b;(c,);d;(e,,,>,);\
f;g;h;(i,,,>,);\
j;...;m;(n,);(o,,,>,,,);\
!   p;...;r;s;;t;(u,,,>,);\
v;w;x;(y,,);z;\
;;\
  #

This patch now sorts successfully my test words:
ausarbeiten
aussagen
außer
aussuchen
austragen
auszahlen

Any negative side effects by this patch?

[Why does  have to be somewhere in the order statement although it has
 been substituted by some other characters? If I remove the  in the order
 statement, colldef won't compile the file. The position of  doesn't even
 matter...]

BTW It is ugly you cannot use symbols on the LHS of substitute.

Daniel

"Andrey A. Chernov" schrieb:
> 
> On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 07:38:12AM +0100, J Wunsch wrote:
> > Well, not completely. :)  For testing, i've restored the file from
> > before my change, and it missorts similarly.  I'm probably too stupid
> > to understand all of this collate stuff.  So far, i haven't been able
> > to come up with any locale definition that does the right thing for
> > every input.
> 
> I mean no particular commit but whole idea how to sort doubled letters -
> it comes from you, I can't invent this. Collating scheme is very simple -
> we have two sorting orders - primary and secondary (f.e. Posix have four
> levels for Unicode). If two strings are the same by primary order, they
> compare using secondary one. That's all. I will apreciate your any
> decision regarding to DE locale, fixing, backing out etc. since I even
> can't display characters you use in your example, nor have strong desire
> to dig in DE language area starting from zero background.
> 
> --
> Andrey A. Chernov
> a...@null.net
> MTH/SH/HE S-- W-- N+ PEC>+ D A a++ C G>+ QH+(++) 666+>++ Y
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Re: Heads up! /etc/rc.conf.site is dead.

1999-02-10 Thread jack
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote:

> On Tue, 09 Feb 1999 20:42:40 CST, Richard Wackerbarth wrote:
> 
> > But, I would not expect/allow "defaults" to be the mechanism
> > which includes the "real" values.
> 
> Neither would I, but only because this hasn't been made clear in such
> a way that guys like you and me "get it". I reckon that a comment in
> /etc/rc.conf explaining that it's a set of values used to _override_
> those in /etc/defaults/rc.conf ought to do the trick, eh?

That would probably work.  I'm not really oppposed to this
concept I'd just like to see it documented in the distribution so
that the lists aren't over run with questions when it hits the
street and those who haven't been `heads uped' by the lists are
in a state of confusion.

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Re: Which DHCP client

1999-02-10 Thread jfesler
> NOTE that unlike the WIDE client, the ISC client defaults to overwriting
> your /etc/resolv.conf file.  In my case, an action that pisses me off
> because I now have to write a messy /etc/dhclient.conf file to stop this
> nonsence.

On the flip side, you'll be able to set things the way you want (and make
them *very* easy to find, versus the man page).  There are sites that
need/should  to pick up DNS off the dhcp server.  Especially when the
campus moves the name servers around without telling the dhcp users :-).
They'll have the knob it takes to turn that (back) on.



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Re: Syncing Disks

1999-02-10 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
There is a known problem with spontaneous reboots you should be aware about.
Please look at the thread over the last few days.  My advice would be to use
2.2-STABLE if you can until this is fixed.  I have run into this on one of
my machines.  It "seems" to be network related.  I am assuming (we know what
assume means) that this is the same problem.

Tom Veldhouse
ve...@visi.com


-Original Message-
From: T.D. Brace 
To: curr...@freebsd.org 
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 8:44 AM
Subject: Syncing Disks


>
>Hello,
>
>We have a problem with some 3.0 release boxes.  One just went down two
>days ago.  When it came back up, it hangs on syncing disks.  I had a
>tech (it's in a remote location) boot into single user mode, and fsck
>the disks.  This went fine, but when he exited from single user mode,
>it again hangs on syncing disks.  This is a brand new machine, worked
>great for about 6 weeks - and this is the second machine to do this since
>the first of the year.  The other time I had the hard drive shipped to me
>and I rebuilt it.  I would like to avoid that this time.  Anyway, here are
>the machines specs in case that would be of any use:
>
>Abit BX6 MB with PII 400 (not overclocked).
>Bus is at 100MHz.
>384mb ecc sdram
>adaptec 2940U2W scsi
>ibm 9g u2 scsi drive.
>intel etherexpress pro 100+
>generic agp video card (stb I think).
>No cdrom's attached.
>
>It's running freebsd 3.0 release, apache 1.3.3, moderately loaded system
>average of 400 processes running at any one time.  Heavy use of perl
>and mysql.  The load averages weren't bad though, usually less than 0.5,
>and on average it was 80-90% idle (from top).
>
>The other machine that went was identical except the drive/controller
>were just wide scsi.
>
>Can anyone help?
>
>Thanks.
>
>-Ted
>
>
>
>
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Syncing Disks

1999-02-10 Thread T.D. Brace

Hello,

We have a problem with some 3.0 release boxes.  One just went down two
days ago.  When it came back up, it hangs on syncing disks.  I had a
tech (it's in a remote location) boot into single user mode, and fsck
the disks.  This went fine, but when he exited from single user mode,
it again hangs on syncing disks.  This is a brand new machine, worked
great for about 6 weeks - and this is the second machine to do this since
the first of the year.  The other time I had the hard drive shipped to me
and I rebuilt it.  I would like to avoid that this time.  Anyway, here are
the machines specs in case that would be of any use:

Abit BX6 MB with PII 400 (not overclocked).
Bus is at 100MHz.
384mb ecc sdram
adaptec 2940U2W scsi
ibm 9g u2 scsi drive.
intel etherexpress pro 100+
generic agp video card (stb I think).
No cdrom's attached.

It's running freebsd 3.0 release, apache 1.3.3, moderately loaded system
average of 400 processes running at any one time.  Heavy use of perl
and mysql.  The load averages weren't bad though, usually less than 0.5,
and on average it was 80-90% idle (from top).

The other machine that went was identical except the drive/controller
were just wide scsi.

Can anyone help?

Thanks.

-Ted




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Re: Heads up! /etc/rc.conf.site is dead.

1999-02-10 Thread Jon Hamilton

In message , Richar
d Wackerbarth wrote:
} 
} On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, John Fieber wrote:
} 
} > On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, jack wrote:
} > 
} > > If /etc/rc.conf only contains changes from the defaults when 
} > > man something_or_other tells the user to find and edit
} > > something_or_other_flags in /etc/rc.conf the entry won't be
} > > there to edit.
} > 
} > Why must it contain only changes?  Is there any reason it
} > couldn't be a copy of the default rc.conf on a new installation?
} 
} Alternately, it could be a copy of the default file with every item
} commented out. That would provide the clues for those who need to
} edit values and still not mess up the default behavior of a new install
} with old options that might have changed but were not explicitly
} overridden.

But then you're right back where you started.  Since rc.conf isn't supposed
to be touched by the install/upgrade tools, it'll get out of date (and
will become a hinderance rather than a help) as default settings change,
and as settings are added/deleted.

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Re: Heads up! /etc/rc.conf.site is dead.

1999-02-10 Thread Richard Wackerbarth


On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, John Fieber wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, jack wrote:
> 
> > If /etc/rc.conf only contains changes from the defaults when 
> > man something_or_other tells the user to find and edit
> > something_or_other_flags in /etc/rc.conf the entry won't be
> > there to edit.
> 
> Why must it contain only changes?  Is there any reason it
> couldn't be a copy of the default rc.conf on a new installation?

Alternately, it could be a copy of the default file with every item
commented out. That would provide the clues for those who need to
edit values and still not mess up the default behavior of a new install
with old options that might have changed but were not explicitly
overridden.

The documentation in the file could also suggest that the user remove
anything that they do not need.


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Re: runsocks (Was Re: gpib driver - does anybody use it?)

1999-02-10 Thread Andre Albsmeier
On Wed, 10-Feb-1999 at 17:01:00 +1030, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Andre Albsmeier wrote:
> 
> > 2.2.x for a while. (I have problems using runsocks from the socks5
> > package, but yet haven't figured out if it's my fault).
> 
> runsocks works fine for me in socksifying the stuff I use it for (FTP clients,
> simple TCP apps, etc). What are you having problems with?

Hmm, just finished my 3.1 upgrade, compiled socks and runsocks seems
to work now. The only thing that doesn't work is compiling the telnet
included with socks5:

cc -I. -I../../include -I./../../include -O -pipe -DANDRE 
-D__USE_FIXED_PROTOTYPES__  -DHAVE_SETUPTERM  -DSOCKS -DINCLUDE_PROTOTYPES 
-DKLUDGELINEMODE  -DSOCKS -DINCLUDE_PROTOTYPES -o telnet authenc.o commands.o 
main.o network.o ring.o sys_bsd.o telnet.o terminal.o tn3270.o utilities.o 
-L../../lib -lsocks5   -lcrypt   -lncurses -Llibtelnet -ltelnet
telnet.o: In function `gettermname':
telnet.o(.text+0x9f2): undefined reference to `ttytype'
*** Error code 1 (continuing)
`all' not remade because of errors.

But this doesn't bother me because always I runsocks the FreeBSD telnet.

Anyway, I will keep on experimenting on my home machine (where it failed
yesterday) and look what happened. Maybe it was just to late in the evening...

Thanks,

-Andre

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RE: Need Help

1999-02-10 Thread Ladavac Marino

> HI
> 
> I have a trouble with FreeBSD 2.1.5
[ML]  2.1.5 is hardly current (it used to be, some years ago :)

> After a mistyped rm :( when i try some  commands like ps or netstat i
> got
> this message:
[ML]  Careful with those thumbs when you run as root :)

> ps: /dev/drum: No such file or directory
[ML]  An obsolete device (would have to take a look at 2.1.5
sources to 
be able to tell you what it was.  IIRC, it used to be swap in
Version7 days)

> What does it mean ?
[ML]  That means that most probably all your device nodes are
gone,
and that you should
cd /dev
./MAKEDEV
in order to try to recreate them.

Beware, most probably this will not help very much because who
knows
what else did you delete -- was it perchance a rm -rf * in / ?
> How can i fix it?
[ML]  Reinstall is really your only option.  Followed by the
restore so that
you get back all the user files.   You do make backups, don't
you?

> The system still run .. for the moment..(sob).
[ML]  But will probably fail to reboot.  It might manage to
mount /, but
the other partitions are most probably unreachable.

> Please Help!!
[ML]  Don't run as root.  And be very careful when you do.

[ML]  /Marino 


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Need Help

1999-02-10 Thread andrea
HI

I have a trouble with FreeBSD 2.1.5
After a mistyped rm :( when i try some  commands like ps or netstat i got
this message:

ps: /dev/drum: No such file or directory

What does it mean ?
How can i fix it?

The system still run .. for the moment..(sob).

Please Help!!




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Re: Lots of "panic: vrele: negative ref cnt"

1999-02-10 Thread Dom Mitchell
David Malone writes:
> We think we've sorted out this problem. Trying to make a cross
> device link to an NFS filesystem decreases the reference count
> twice, so if you do this a few times you can panic a machine. I've
> submitted a gnats report (kern/9970).

I can confirm that this also halts my crashes with nmh's spost command.
I'll leave it up to an NFS guru to tell whether it's the *right* fix,
but it's certainly something that needs looking at, quickly.

Thanks for your help.
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Re: Which DHCP client

1999-02-10 Thread David O'Brien
OK, I've decided to import the ISC client.  I am not pleased with this
choice, but I believe the FreeBSD community in general seems to prefer
this choice.

Swaying arguments:

1. OpenBSD uses the ISC client and keep a careful eye on it for software
engineering issues.  (which is really all that buffov problems are)

2. Mike Smith's emails (priv and public) show that the ISC client offers
us more options in configuring a system than the WIDE client.  Issues
include sysinstall bootstrapping support and /etc/rc* hooks.


For the record, version 2 of the ISC client *DOES* in fact require an
/etc/dhclient.conf file:

# dhclient fxp0
Can't open /etc/dhclient.conf: No such file or directory
exiting.

this is stupid and I have a mind to change it to:

Can't open /etc/dhclient.conf: using built-in defaults
continuing.

Also, /etc/dhclient-script *IS* required:

# dhclient fxp0
/tmp/dcsFoU405: /etc/dhclient-script: not found
/tmp/dcsWOk405: /etc/dhclient-script: not found
fxp0: not found
exiting.   


NOTE that unlike the WIDE client, the ISC client defaults to overwriting
your /etc/resolv.conf file.  In my case, an action that pisses me off
because I now have to write a messy /etc/dhclient.conf file to stop this
nonsence.

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Re: Heads up! /etc/rc.conf.site is dead.

1999-02-10 Thread Sheldon Hearn


On Tue, 09 Feb 1999 20:42:40 CST, Richard Wackerbarth wrote:

> But, I would not expect/allow "defaults" to be the mechanism
> which includes the "real" values.

Neither would I, but only because this hasn't been made clear in such
a way that guys like you and me "get it". I reckon that a comment in
/etc/rc.conf explaining that it's a set of values used to _override_
those in /etc/defaults/rc.conf ought to do the trick, eh?

Ciao,
Sheldon.

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