Re: CTM CVSUP differences
In message pine.bsf.4.05.9901152041370.558-100...@picnic.mat.net Chuck Robey writes: : In terms of convenience, cvsup is supreme, but in terms of stability, : Poul's baby here is the champ, so you have to really consider other : places of corruption first. I've had problems when I get 30 parts at one time on the fast list... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: CTM CVSUP differences
On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 08:46:23PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: Are you using any other tool besides ctm to touch your cvs archive? Are you doing commits locally? No. In terms of convenience, cvsup is supreme, but in terms of stability, Poul's baby here is the champ, so you have to really consider other places of corruption first. Mh, it seems that I have to double-check my environment. :-( Until now i've mounted my partitions async. Maybe it gets hosed somewhere (altought I didn't get any error messages). Yesterday I switched to soft-updates. I'll see, if it will be get better now. Boris -- b...@dva.in-berlin.de Boris Staeblow To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: CTM CVSUP differences
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Boris Staeblow wrote: Hello, Is it possible that there are slight differences between the CTM's and the real world ? Yes, there are differences. You can't get the optional security stuff via CTM while you can with CVSUP. Last time I tried it, this means you can't do a make release as Jordan's release Makefiles can't handle a total absense of that stuff (eBones? whatever its called). While you can download the missing security stuff, make release wants to check it out of your local cvs archive. I haven't found a way to put it there but I'm a cvs novice. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@nospam.hiwaay.net = The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@nospam.hiwaay.net = The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: CTM CVSUP differences
According to David Kelly: via CTM while you can with CVSUP. Last time I tried it, this means you can't do a make release as Jordan's release Makefiles can't handle a total absense of that stuff (eBones? whatever its called). It is available on internat.freebsd.org with CTM... -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- robe...@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #67: Tue Dec 29 20:24:02 CET 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: CTM CVSUP differences
Ollivier Robert writes: According to David Kelly: via CTM while you can with CVSUP. Last time I tried it, this means you can't do a make release as Jordan's release Makefiles can't handle a total absense of that stuff (eBones? whatever its called). It is available on internat.freebsd.org with CTM... And its legal for me to import it to the US? Thought something like that had to be available but it didn't come up last time I mentioned it. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@nospam.hiwaay.net = The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: CTM CVSUP differences
David Kelly wrote: It is available on internat.freebsd.org with CTM... And its legal for me to import it to the US? No problem. It is illegal to export _from_ the US. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: CTM CVSUP differences
David Kelly wrote: While you can download the missing security stuff, make release wants to check it out of your local cvs archive. I haven't found a way to put it there but I'm a cvs novice. There is an international repository of crypto sources. Lemme know if you want it. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
CTM CVSUP differences
Hello, I'm using ctm-cvs for synchronizing my CVS-Tree. But sometimes I get MD5 checksum errors when apllying the ctm's. To resynchronize my ctm's with the CVS-Tree i have to use cvsup at ctm.freebsd.org with the option strictrcs. Many files have to be retransmitted and many fixup's appear. Is it possible that there are slight differences between the CTM's and the real world ? Is CTM a little neglient when the diffs are generated? Boris -- b...@dva.in-berlin.de Boris Staeblow To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: CTM CVSUP differences
According to Boris Staeblow: Is it possible that there are slight differences between the CTM's and the real world ? There should not be. Is CTM a little neglient when the diffs are generated? I cannot say anything else than it has been working for me for several years and the few times it blew up was when some fairly large problem hit the CTM generator and it happened only once in one or two years. In fact, it has been very stable for several thousand of generated chunks. cvs-cur is now at the following level and I don't remember when tha last problem was (problem as in badly generated chunks)... -rw--- 1 nobody wheel 728351 Jan 15 19:08 cvs-cur.4987.gz -rw--- 1 nobody wheel 388427 Jan 15 19:08 cvs-cur.4988.gz -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- robe...@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #67: Tue Dec 29 20:24:02 CET 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: CTM CVSUP differences
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Boris Staeblow wrote: Hello, I'm using ctm-cvs for synchronizing my CVS-Tree. But sometimes I get MD5 checksum errors when apllying the ctm's. To resynchronize my ctm's with the CVS-Tree i have to use cvsup at ctm.freebsd.org with the option strictrcs. Many files have to be retransmitted and many fixup's appear. Is it possible that there are slight differences between the CTM's and the real world ? Is CTM a little neglient when the diffs are generated? CTM is remarkably stable. In running it 3 years (I stopped about 4 months ago when my net connection improved) I had only 1 stoppage, a well known one caused by someone messing witht he archive. If you're getting problems like this on a regular basis, then you *really* ought to either consider your environment. Are you using any other tool besides ctm to touch your cvs archive? Are you doing commits locally? CTM won't allow anything but ctm alone to modify the tree, no exceptions whatsoever. In terms of convenience, cvsup is supreme, but in terms of stability, Poul's baby here is the champ, so you have to really consider other places of corruption first. +--- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chu...@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). +--- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
