Re: OT: Debian GNU/FreeBSD???

2002-08-16 Thread D J Hawkey Jr

In article <002501c243e7$9c1ae5b0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> > http://www.debian.org/ports/freebsd/index
>> >
>> > I was slightly irritated when a pal showed me that!
>>
>> Why?
> 
> I thought FreeBSD wants no distros to avoid all the distrochaos Linux got
> right now. Debian is rather contraproductive to that. Luckily it aint
> popular.
> 
> -mg

I can't understand the resoning for even doing this. For the Linux
userland (i.e., GNU utilities)? I _much_ prefer the FreeBSD userland...

Dave

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Re: OT: Debian GNU/FreeBSD???

2002-08-15 Thread Nathan Hawkins

I'd debate "silly," but you're more or less correct.

The userland is really a bit mixed. Most of /sbin and /usr/sbin is from 
FreeBSD (kind of necessary), while most of /usr/bin is from Debian.

---Nathan


Brooks Davis wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 12:51:49AM +0200, Mario Goebbels wrote:
> 
>>I'm slightly offtopic with this, but what the heck is that:
>>
>>http://www.debian.org/ports/freebsd/index
>>
>>I was slightly irritated when a pal showed me that!
> 
> 
> It's Debian people being silly.  Someone decided they liked the FreeBSD
> kernel and the Debian way of doing userland and combined the two.  As
> you can see from the webpage, it's not exactly popular (the site hasn't
> been updated in four months.)  It's more or less legal and doesn't hurt
> anything.
> 
> -- Brooks
> 



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Re: OT: Debian GNU/FreeBSD???

2002-08-14 Thread Tony Finch

Brooks Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 12:51:49AM +0200, Mario Goebbels wrote:
>> I'm slightly offtopic with this, but what the heck is that:
>> http://www.debian.org/ports/freebsd/index
>> I was slightly irritated when a pal showed me that!
>
>It's Debian people being silly.  Someone decided they liked the FreeBSD
>kernel and the Debian way of doing userland and combined the two.  As
>you can see from the webpage, it's not exactly popular (the site hasn't
>been updated in four months.)

There are a couple of Debian/BSD efforts going on at the moment, one
based on FreeBSD and the other on NetBSD. There's only a couple of
people working on each of them, and the principal FreeBSD guy is
currently lacking development resources so not much progress is being
made there. Both groups are having trouble reconciling the different
functionality of glibc and BSD libc.

They're planning to make both a part of the next major release of
Debian, so it will be ported to N+3 kernels (Linux, Hurd, NetBSD,
FreeBSD). Given the effectiveness of their release engineering,
don't expect it to get anywhere near general usability for at
least a year, and probably getting on for two.

Tony.
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Re: OT: Debian GNU/FreeBSD???

2002-08-14 Thread Mario Goebbels

> > http://www.debian.org/ports/freebsd/index
> >
> > I was slightly irritated when a pal showed me that!
>
> Why?

I thought FreeBSD wants no distros to avoid all the distrochaos Linux got
right now. Debian is rather contraproductive to that. Luckily it aint
popular.

-mg


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Re: OT: Debian GNU/FreeBSD???

2002-08-14 Thread Terry Lambert

Mario Goebbels wrote:
> I'm slightly offtopic with this, but what the heck is that:

Ontopic for -chat, and maybe -advocacy; perhaps you should
pst there, instead...

> http://www.debian.org/ports/freebsd/index
> 
> I was slightly irritated when a pal showed me that!

Why?

-- Terry

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Re: OT: Debian GNU/FreeBSD???

2002-08-14 Thread Brooks Davis

On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 12:51:49AM +0200, Mario Goebbels wrote:
> I'm slightly offtopic with this, but what the heck is that:
> 
> http://www.debian.org/ports/freebsd/index
> 
> I was slightly irritated when a pal showed me that!

It's Debian people being silly.  Someone decided they liked the FreeBSD
kernel and the Debian way of doing userland and combined the two.  As
you can see from the webpage, it's not exactly popular (the site hasn't
been updated in four months.)  It's more or less legal and doesn't hurt
anything.

-- Brooks

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OT: Debian GNU/FreeBSD???

2002-08-14 Thread Mario Goebbels

I'm slightly offtopic with this, but what the heck is that:

http://www.debian.org/ports/freebsd/index

I was slightly irritated when a pal showed me that!

-mg

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