Re: Labeling Vinum partitions in the sysinstall(8) [patch]
> > > > ccd anybody? > > AFAIK, unlike vinum, ccd doesn't require any special disk labeling. Sorry, I should have been clearer. If I got it right, you're working not only on disk labeling for vinum, but on a complete frontend. If that is true, I think we (yes I am volunteering, in case nobody else will - but I might need help) should look into it and see how hard it might be to turn the non-disklabel part into also a ccdconfig frontend. I think what I'm trying to achieve is quite clear. It's currently very hard to install a system with say a mirrored /usr; you need to do a lot of post-install games. Having done that a lot of times in last year, I would love to have the option to ccdconfig partitions in sysinstall, and install on them. Bye, Andrea -- ...and that is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Labeling Vinum partitions in the sysinstall(8) [patch]
Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > John Baldwin wrote: > > > On 02-Mar-01 Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > I'm currently creating a Vinum(4) configuration wizard for sysinstall(8), > > > which > > > would simplify Vinum configuration procedure for the vinum newbies. So far I > > > finished a patch that allows create vinum partitions using sysinstall's > > > disklabel editor and would like to commit it. Please review attached patches. > > > > Heh, I wrote http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/sysinstall.vinum.patch > > probably a year ago now, but because it only changes the disklabel editor and > > doesn't add a full vinum configurator the patch was rejected. :-/ Hopefully > > you will have better luck than I did... > > I hope so, because it greatly simplifies the task even without a full vinum > configurator (as I said I'm working on it as well). Yeah, I know that disklabel(8) > is cool, but it is not very intuitive and easy to use tool, especially for > GUI-pampered win32 converts. So, we're impatiently awaiting your nice GUI-ish vinum configurator in Tcl/Tk, Python, Ruby, Perl, Java, or whatever. ;^) -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
RE: Labeling Vinum partitions in the sysinstall(8) [patch]
From: John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Labeling Vinum partitions in the sysinstall(8) [patch] Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:28:31 -0800 (PST) > Heh, I wrote http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/sysinstall.vinum.patch > probably a year ago now, but because it only changes the disklabel editor and > doesn't add a full vinum configurator the patch was rejected. :-/ Hopefully > you will have better luck than I did... Well, I'm not sure it was "rejected" so much as "sent back with a set of requests attached." The problem here is that vinum is currently a feature which isn't "exposed" to the general public - you need to be someone who's interested in tracking down the details and doing some reading before you can create a vinum-based filesystem. That's good in this particular case because vinum is hardly a trivial piece of work and you'd better read up on it before using it or you're probably going to end up doing nasty things to your system. This is not to say that vinum wouldn't substantially benefit from a lot of front-end work which removes a lot of the confusion and hair from the process, indeed I think that would make vinum a lot more popular and useful, but all the Baldwin/Sobolev patches do is essentially draw an arrow which leads over the cliff. :-) They don't front-end the process enough that someone completely unfamiliar with vinum will be able to do the right things. For the person who *already* knows what vinum does, these patches make initial setup a bit easier, I don't dispute that at all. There are a lot more people than the vinum masters who use sysinstall, however, and those folks are going to be going "what's this? Should I select it? What do I do after that?" In short, it only opens a big can of worms for them. In short, I think these patches are a good start but only about 1/10th of the work necessary to truly bring vinum support into sysinstall. As a 1/10th effort, I also consider them to be something to be passed around amongst various hackers interested in providing the other 9/10 but nothing to actually expose end-users to right now. That's why your (John's) patches went back with comments attached and I've merely been waiting for you to finish them. ;) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Labeling Vinum partitions in the sysinstall(8) [patch]
John Baldwin wrote: > On 02-Mar-01 Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I'm currently creating a Vinum(4) configuration wizard for sysinstall(8), > > which > > would simplify Vinum configuration procedure for the vinum newbies. So far I > > finished a patch that allows create vinum partitions using sysinstall's > > disklabel editor and would like to commit it. Please review attached patches. > > Heh, I wrote http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/sysinstall.vinum.patch > probably a year ago now, but because it only changes the disklabel editor and > doesn't add a full vinum configurator the patch was rejected. :-/ Hopefully > you will have better luck than I did... I hope so, because it greatly simplifies the task even without a full vinum configurator (as I said I'm working on it as well). Yeah, I know that disklabel(8) is cool, but it is not very intuitive and easy to use tool, especially for GUI-pampered win32 converts. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
RE: Labeling Vinum partitions in the sysinstall(8) [patch]
On 02-Mar-01 Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm currently creating a Vinum(4) configuration wizard for sysinstall(8), > which > would simplify Vinum configuration procedure for the vinum newbies. So far I > finished a patch that allows create vinum partitions using sysinstall's > disklabel editor and would like to commit it. Please review attached patches. Heh, I wrote http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/sysinstall.vinum.patch probably a year ago now, but because it only changes the disklabel editor and doesn't add a full vinum configurator the patch was rejected. :-/ Hopefully you will have better luck than I did... > Thanks! > > -Maxim -- John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Labeling Vinum partitions in the sysinstall(8) [patch]
Andrea Campi wrote: > > > > I'm currently creating a Vinum(4) configuration wizard for sysinstall(8), which > > would simplify Vinum configuration procedure for the vinum newbies. So far I > > finished a patch that allows create vinum partitions using sysinstall's > > disklabel editor and would like to commit it. Please review attached patches. > > ccd anybody? AFAIK, unlike vinum, ccd doesn't require any special disk labeling. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Labeling Vinum partitions in the sysinstall(8) [patch]
> > I'm currently creating a Vinum(4) configuration wizard for sysinstall(8), which > would simplify Vinum configuration procedure for the vinum newbies. So far I > finished a patch that allows create vinum partitions using sysinstall's > disklabel editor and would like to commit it. Please review attached patches. ccd anybody? Bye, Andrea -- Where do you think you're going today? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message