Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-23 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brian Beattie 
writes:
: > Winner!  Much better than my personal favorite of bigbooty.flp.  :-)
: > 
: > - Jordan
: >
: 
: Then that would make the CD LordWarfen.iso?

I had the chance to register john.net way back when.  I was going to
name the machines warfen.john.net, bigbootee.john.net,
smallberries.john.net, etc.  I kinda wish I had because now it is too
late :-(

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug Barton writes:
:   But win95 didn't really fix it, it just covered it up. Filenames in
: Win9x are still 8.3, but the "OS" provides a translation layer that maps
: those 8.3 filenames to long ones. Also, are we sure that fdimage,
: running under DOS can handle longer names? 

But DOS will truncate it.  By that point the name has served its
purpose and it doesn't matter if it is truncated :-).

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Doug Barton

Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> jack 
>writes:
> : Today Warner Losh wrote:
> :
> : > boot.flp288
> :
> : The M$ weenies would probably choke on that since they do
> : filenames other than 8.3 with smoke and mirrors.
> 
> 8.3 is so archaic these days we shouldn't be bothered with them.  It
> hasn't been a real restriction since the 3.1 days.  Win95, released 5
> years ago, fixed this.

But win95 didn't really fix it, it just covered it up. Filenames in
Win9x are still 8.3, but the "OS" provides a translation layer that maps
those 8.3 filenames to long ones. Also, are we sure that fdimage,
running under DOS can handle longer names? 

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Matthew N. Dodd

On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> Winner!  Much better than my personal favorite of bigbooty.flp.  :-)

Bigboote.

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Daniel C. Sobral

"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
> 
> Good idea, terrible name.  Can't you guys some up with something better? :)

AFAIK, the idea is having the name keeping people away from that file.

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread jack

Today Warner Losh wrote:

> boot.flp288

The M$ weenies would probably choke on that since they do
filenames other than 8.3 with smoke and mirrors.

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> jack 
writes:
: Today Warner Losh wrote:
: 
: > boot.flp288
: 
: The M$ weenies would probably choke on that since they do
: filenames other than 8.3 with smoke and mirrors.

8.3 is so archaic these days we shouldn't be bothered with them.  It
hasn't been a real restriction since the 3.1 days.  Win95, released 5
years ago, fixed this.

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Brian Beattie

On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> > kern-144.flp
> > root-144.flp
> > boot-288.flp
> 
> Winner!  Much better than my personal favorite of bigbooty.flp.  :-)
> 
> - Jordan
>

Then that would make the CD LordWarfen.iso?
 
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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Warner Losh

boot.flp288

Warner


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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard

> kern-144.flp
> root-144.flp
> boot-288.flp

Winner!  Much better than my personal favorite of bigbooty.flp.  :-)

- Jordan


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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Brian Beattie

On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Rasmus Skaarup wrote:

> 
> Jordan K. Hubbard said:
> > Good idea, terrible name.  Can't you guys some up with something better? :)
> 
> kern.flp-> start.flp  
> mfsroot.flp -> install.flp
> 
> boot.flp-> bigstart.flp 
>bigdisk.flp ?

Or Maybe:
kern.144
mfsroot.144
boot.288

or

kern-144.flp
root-144.flp
boot-288.flp


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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Alex Zepeda was heard blurting out:

> On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> 
> > Good idea, terrible name.  Can't you guys some up with something better? :)
> 
> reallybigbootthing.flp?
> 

How about:

isoboot.flp

Since it's use is for making bootable cdroms  ;-)

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread John Estess


-Original Message-
From: Rasmus Skaarup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jordan K. Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2


>
>Jordan K. Hubbard said:
>> Good idea, terrible name.  Can't you guys some up with something better?
:)
>
>kern.flp-> start.flp>>> boot.flp
>mfsroot.flp -> install.flp   >>> initsys.flp
>
>boot.flp-> bigstart.flp  >>> bootinit.flp
>   bigdisk.flp ?
>

>> > Great idea.  Would you be able to make the changes locally and test a
>> > `make release'?  Then all we need to do is pass the patch pass JKH.


And I
thought this was the objectionable phrase




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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-22 Thread Rasmus Skaarup


Jordan K. Hubbard said:
> Good idea, terrible name.  Can't you guys some up with something better? :)

kern.flp-> start.flp  
mfsroot.flp -> install.flp

boot.flp-> bigstart.flp 
   bigdisk.flp ?

I thought we could rename kern.flp and mfsroot.flp aswell, since they
their names don't make much sense to anyone other than the one compiling
the darn disks :-)


Best regards
Rasmus Skaarup


> 
> > On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 04:32:35PM -0800, Doug White wrote:
> > > I would be in favor of renaming the boot.flp to something obviously
> > > different, like 288boot.flp, to untrain us 2.x heads that got used to the
> > 
> > Great idea.  Would you be able to make the changes locally and test a
> > `make release'?  Then all we need to do is pass the patch pass JKH.
> > (harder to say "NO" to working code)
> > 
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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-21 Thread Alex Zepeda

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> Good idea, terrible name.  Can't you guys some up with something better? :)

reallybigbootthing.flp?

- alex



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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-21 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard

Good idea, terrible name.  Can't you guys some up with something better? :)

> On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 04:32:35PM -0800, Doug White wrote:
> > I would be in favor of renaming the boot.flp to something obviously
> > different, like 288boot.flp, to untrain us 2.x heads that got used to the
> 
> Great idea.  Would you be able to make the changes locally and test a
> `make release'?  Then all we need to do is pass the patch pass JKH.
> (harder to say "NO" to working code)
> 
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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-21 Thread David O'Brien

On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 04:32:35PM -0800, Doug White wrote:
> I would be in favor of renaming the boot.flp to something obviously
> different, like 288boot.flp, to untrain us 2.x heads that got used to the

Great idea.  Would you be able to make the changes locally and test a
`make release'?  Then all we need to do is pass the patch pass JKH.
(harder to say "NO" to working code)

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-21 Thread Doug White

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Thierry.herbelot wrote:

> I had the exact same error message trying to boot from a floppy where I
> had tried to dd the full boot.flp (2,8 Megs is just too much for a
> normal floppy), instead of kern.flp (and dd does not give error messages
> ..)

I would be in favor of renaming the boot.flp to something obviously
different, like 288boot.flp, to untrain us 2.x heads that got used to the
single-floppy installer of yore. :)  I still reach for 'boot.flp' and have
to kick myself to grab kern/mfsroot instead.

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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-20 Thread Joe Abley

On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 07:52:18AM +0100, Thierry.herbelot wrote:
> Joe Abley wrote:
> > 
> > Problem report booting 4.0-RELEASE follows.
> > 
> I had the exact same error message trying to boot from a floppy where I
> had tried to dd the full boot.flp (2,8 Megs is just too much for a
> normal floppy), instead of kern.flp (and dd does not give error messages
> ..)

Oh, how hideously embarassing. Thank you, Thierry, and please excuse
me as I shoot myself in the head.



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Re: 4.0-RELEASE boot.flp fails to boot on K6/2

2000-03-20 Thread Thierry.herbelot

Joe Abley wrote:
> 
> Problem report booting 4.0-RELEASE follows.
> 
>   /boot.config: -P
>   Keyboard: yes
> 
>   BTX loader 1.00  BTX version is 1.01
>   Console: internal video/keyboard
>   BIOS drive A: is disk0
>   BIOS drive C: is disk1
>   BIOS 639kB/56256kB available memory
> 
>   FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.7
>   ([EMAIL PROTECTED], Wed Mar 15 01:23:43 GMT 2000)
>   |
>   Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
>   Booting [kernel]...
>   /kernel text=0x1d56fe data=0x2f4ca0+0x1a718 zf_read: fill error

Hello,

I had the exact same error message trying to boot from a floppy where I
had tried to dd the full boot.flp (2,8 Megs is just too much for a
normal floppy), instead of kern.flp (and dd does not give error messages
..)

TfH

> 
>   elf_loadexec: archsw.readin failed
>   can't load 'kernel'
>   no bootable kernel
>   \
> 
>   Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help.
>   ok
> 
> What does this mean? If this is a -questions question, then please feel
> free to flame me privately (just thought it sounded -currentish). If
> there are any useful diags I can type, let me know.
> 
> Hardware is 350MHz K6/2, generic-looking Asus motherboard with
> integrated video and audio, no-name PCI 10baseT ethernet adapter,
> floppy, single 20G IDE disk, 64M RAM. No other peripherals.
> 
> Have tried different floppies. Recent OpenBSD snapshot floppy works
> just fine, by way of crude hardware sanity check.
> 
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