RE: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-05 Thread Jason Young


The card is also available in a 16-bit version (it has a PC Card logo on the
back, I don't know if the Cardbus one does or not). It's important to note
that the 575 (not the 574) is CardBus. I used to have one, but
semi-thankfully, it got blown up by lightning and the replacement was 16-bit
and thus usuable with FreeBSD.

If you actually have the 16-bit pccard version, then you need to patch your
driver. I sent in patches that got committed to 4.0, but were basically
replaced a month later by Matt Jacob's massive rework of the entire ep
driver and not MFC'd.

You can pull rev. 1.87 of if_ep.c out of the Attic from cvsweb:

 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/isa/Attic/if_ep.c

And it will drop directly into your tree in /sys/i386/isa. Make sure you
have 1.23.2.1 or later of if_epreg.h.

The only major change of the patch is to hit the card with an offset command
if the no-offset commands don't work. I have no idea what its significance
is other than it's required to make my card work. I can't remember where I
got the basic idea from, it was from PAO I think.


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 Subject: Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards
 
 
 William Woods wrote:
  I have two pcmcia cards here I am wondering if the work 
 under either -stable
  or -current, they are:
   
  3COM Megahertz 10/100 LAN PC Card model #3CCFE574BT
 
 This is a cardbus card (I have one, too) and won't work.  
 Many of us are
 eagerly awaiting Warner's new cardbus code.
 
  The other card is cardbus, so I doubt it but I will ask anyway
  
  Adaptec SlimSCSI 1480A UltraSCSI
 
 If it's cardbus, it won't work.
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Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-05 Thread Frank Mayhar

Warner Losh wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frank Mayhar writes:
 : Wups, I thought I read 575BT.  But no, the 574BT doesn't work either; there's
 : a bug somewhere in the driver.  I have one of _those_, too, having read the
 : same thing you did.
 
 Last I heard, Matt Dodd had or was waiting for a 574BT and pccard
 enviornment to fix the driver.

He's got both the card and the documentation, courtesy of Terry Murphy at
3Com and my efforts to that end.

 I have a 3CCFE575CT sitting here on my desk right now as a gentile
 reminder to work on pccard/cardbus stuff :-).

Is that one that Matt sent you?  If so, that's the result of the same effort.
Else Matt has one, too.
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Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-05 Thread will andrews

On 05-Jan-00 William Woods wrote:
 ok, now...to get it working...
 
 ideas?

I am currently using a 3Com 3CCFE574BT with 4.0-CURRENT here. Mind you, that is
4.0-CURRENT as of September 29, right before Matt Dodd's if_ep.c commit that
moved towards newcard implementation.

You will not be able to use it on any later version of 4.0-CURRENT as far as I
know. And I know it does not work with 3.3-RELEASE. You may have better luck
with 3.4-RELEASE, but I wouldn't know.

/me waits for Matt to fix if_ep *patiently* ;-)

I know it's coming soon. *twiddle thumbs*

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Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-05 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Matthew N. Dodd" 
writes:
: Anyone know of a PCI Cardbus bridgeboard?  I'd rather not have to get a
: laptop just so I can play with cardbus.

I've seen two, both of which seem to be unavailable.  One is at a URL
that I've lost and the other was made by compaq and was available for
their desktop machines.  CDW used to carry this, but it is unavailable
now as well.  I'll have to dig up the URL that I've lost (it is in my
netscape history file, I'm sure) since they talked about availablities
after the first of the year which is why I blew them off before (it
was in October or so I was looking).  I'll send you something if I can
find it.

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Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-05 Thread William Woods

Here is the pccard.conf entry:

# 3Com Fast Etherlink 3C574TX
card "3Com" "Megahertz 574B"
config  0x1 "ep0" ? 0x1
insert  echo 3Com Fast Etherlink 3C574B inserted
insert  /etc/pccard_ether ep0
remove  echo 3Com Fast Etherlink 

This is on a 3.4 -stable system


On 05-Jan-00 Warner Losh wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] will andrews
 writes:
: I am currently using a 3Com 3CCFE574BT with 4.0-CURRENT here. Mind you, that
: is
 
 What does your pccard.conf entry look like for it?
 
 Warner


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Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-04 Thread Frank Mayhar

William Woods wrote:
 I have two pcmcia cards here I am wondering if the work under either -stable
 or -current, they are:
  
 3COM Megahertz 10/100 LAN PC Card model #3CCFE574BT

This is a cardbus card (I have one, too) and won't work.  Many of us are
eagerly awaiting Warner's new cardbus code.

 The other card is cardbus, so I doubt it but I will ask anyway
 
 Adaptec SlimSCSI 1480A UltraSCSI

If it's cardbus, it won't work.
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Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-04 Thread William Woods

I thought I read in the mailing list that the 3COM did work..


On 05-Jan-00 Frank Mayhar wrote:
 William Woods wrote:
 I have two pcmcia cards here I am wondering if the work under either -stable
 or -current, they are:
  
 3COM Megahertz 10/100 LAN PC Card model #3CCFE574BT
 
 This is a cardbus card (I have one, too) and won't work.  Many of us are
 eagerly awaiting Warner's new cardbus code.
 
 The other card is cardbus, so I doubt it but I will ask anyway
 
 Adaptec SlimSCSI 1480A UltraSCSI
 
 If it's cardbus, it won't work.
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Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-04 Thread Frank Mayhar

William Woods wrote:
 I thought I read in the mailing list that the 3COM did work..

Wups, I thought I read 575BT.  But no, the 574BT doesn't work either; there's
a bug somewhere in the driver.  I have one of _those_, too, having read the
same thing you did.
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Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-04 Thread William Woods

Man, this is getting depressing, all these goodies for Christmass and NADA
workie, well, I assume that -current they are working on the driver for the
574BT right and eventually it will work.

On a side note, how does your laptop like -current? I am going to run it on a
Thinkpad 770E



On 05-Jan-00 Frank Mayhar wrote:
 William Woods wrote:
 I thought I read in the mailing list that the 3COM did work..
 
 Wups, I thought I read 575BT.  But no, the 574BT doesn't work either; there's
 a bug somewhere in the driver.  I have one of _those_, too, having read the
 same thing you did.
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Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-04 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] William Woods writes:
: I thought I read in the mailing list that the 3COM did work..

There are two different versions of the 3ccfe574.  One is cardbus and
one is pccard, although the pccard may be 3cdifferent-mubmle574.  At
least that's what the conclusion was when this came up in the past.

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Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-04 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] William Woods writes:
:  Hold on.  Lemme try something here
:  
:  1) Physical inspection.  The cardbus cards have a row of dots on the
: top side of the card right next to the connectors for the
: pccard/cardbus bus for better grounding and are often copper in
: color.
: 
: Nope, no row of dots or anything similar.

Does plugging it in and doing a pccardc dumpcis reveal anything.

Also if you look at the pccard/cardbus bus end, is the connector on
the right look like:

*
**
**

or does it look like

*
*
**

The above is a 3.3V card and generally means that it is cardbus
(although there are some low voltage 3.3V pccards out there and the
nomads list produced some patches for them a short time ago).

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Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-04 Thread Mikhail A. Sokolov

And what about 3cxem556b? When somebody already asked some time ago, I looked
through archives to no avail of information. It worked splendid on 2.2.7-pao ;)
OpenBSD 2.6, which I have to use now isn't a solution due to it being OpenBSD.


On Wed, Jan 05, 2000 at 12:03:15AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
# In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frank Mayhar writes:
#: Wups, I thought I read 575BT.  But no, the 574BT doesn't work either; there's
# : a bug somewhere in the driver.  I have one of _those_, too, having read the
# : same thing you did.
# 
# Last I heard, Matt Dodd had or was waiting for a 574BT and pccard
# enviornment to fix the driver.
# 
# I have a 3CCFE575CT sitting here on my desk right now as a gentile
# reminder to work on pccard/cardbus stuff :-).
# 
# Warner
 

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Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-04 Thread Josef Grosch

On Tue, Jan 04, 2000 at 11:05:57PM -0800, William Woods wrote:
 
 : 3COM Megahertz 10/100 LAN PC Card model #3CCFE574BT
  
  If this is the cardbus version, no.  If it is the pccard version then
  yes.  We've received reports of this same model number being used for
  both the pccard and cardbus.
 
 So, how do I tell if its pccard or cardbus? Got some way for me to test it?

Look at the business end of the card. Do you see a row of bumps the card?
If you do, then you are holding a CardBus. If you do not see the row of
bumps then you have a pccard.


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Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-04 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] William Woods writes:
: *
: **
: 
: is what I see

Which part is taller, the tab sticking out, or the slot sticking in?
If the tab is taller, it is likely cardbus, otherwise pccard.  I
suspect that the slot is taller since you don't have the row of bumps
on the card.

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Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-04 Thread William Woods

slot is taller

On 05-Jan-00 Warner Losh wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] William Woods writes:
: *
: **
: 
: is what I see
 
 Which part is taller, the tab sticking out, or the slot sticking in?
 If the tab is taller, it is likely cardbus, otherwise pccard.  I
 suspect that the slot is taller since you don't have the row of bumps
 on the card.
 
 Warner


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Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-04 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] William Woods writes:
: slot is taller

Then it is a pccard.

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Re: A couple questions regarding pcmcia cards....

2000-01-04 Thread William Woods

ok, now...to get it working...

ideas?

On 05-Jan-00 Warner Losh wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] William Woods writes:
: slot is taller
 
 Then it is a pccard.
 
 Warner


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