Re: Console problem with ALT-F# keys

2011-08-27 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Friday 26 August 2011 07:56:04 Pegasus Mc Cleaft wrote:
 
   I have recently installed this into a new machine and had chance to

did you solve your problem?

I have had a similar problem yesterday after upgrading my ports via packages. I 
could not even switch to the consoles anymore.

This was solved after I compiled X and the drivers from the ports and installed 
them.

Erich
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Re: Console problem with ALT-F# keys

2011-08-27 Thread Pegasus Mc Cleaft
On Saturday 27 August 2011 13:11:43 Erich Dollansky wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Friday 26 August 2011 07:56:04 Pegasus Mc Cleaft wrote:
  I have recently installed this into a new machine and had chance to
 
 did you solve your problem?
 
 I have had a similar problem yesterday after upgrading my ports via
 packages. I could not even switch to the consoles anymore.

Hi Erich, 

No, I havent..  But I am leaning towards a hardware quirk at this 
point. 

Since the original post, I have done a bit more digging and had a 
chance 
to test against another machine and it does not have the same problem. I also 
found out that even though I had connected a PS2 keyboard to the motherboards 
PS2 ports, these are not conventional ports. They look like they are actually 
connected to a converter that sits on the motherboards USB controller. 

On the second test machine, I attached a PS2 keyboard to the PS2 Port 
and 
a USB keyboard (Sun type 6) to the USB ports. Neither of the keyboards have 
this problem.. With this in mind, I am fairly sure its not a BSD issue and 
suspect its whatever converter they put on this Intel motherboard. 

Weird... 

Peg
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Re: Console problem with ALT-F# keys

2011-08-26 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi--

On Aug 25, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Pegasus Mc Cleaft wrote:
 I am running FreeBSD 9.0-BETA1 r225125 compiled with LLVM on a Xeon
 processor (CPUTYPE=core2 and CFLAGS= -mmmx -msse -msse2 -msse3 -O2
 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe)

The FreeBSD kernel doesn't use MMX or SSE by explicit design choice.  See 
sys/conf/kern.mk:

# [ ... ]  Explicitly prohibit the use of SSE and other SIMD
# operations inside the kernel itself.  These operations are exclusively
# reserved for user applications.
#
.if ${MACHINE_ARCH} == i386  ${CC} != icc
CFLAGS+=-mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 \
   -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2
INLINE_LIMIT?=  8000
.endif

Trying to override the default compiler flags to force it to use MMX/SSE is 
simply not going to work.

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Re: console problem

2002-12-04 Thread Holm Tiffe
Chuck Robey wrote:

 I've been on vacation for the last week, so I haven't been watching
 -current like a good boy should, but I've suddenly been seeing a serious
 problem, and it *might* not have been reported, and seeing as code freeze
 is almost here, it's worth risking a bit of embarrassment, I guess.
 
 Anyhow, it's the console, it's been locking up.  I just retried it with a
 kernel cvsupped not 2 hours ago, and it's still here.  All the vty's lock
 up, and once even froze the PC speaker (beeping annoyingly at me).
 

I see the hanging Speaker problem on an Asus A7V with an Athlon 2000+
and 256 Megs of RAM, so it seems not SMP related, nor Tyan related.

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RE: console problem

2002-12-04 Thread Long, Scott
This problem and the general 'console freeze' problem, and possibly
even the 'floppy doesn't work anymore' problem should be fixed.  The
problem was with the ahc and ahd drivers corrupting the callout list
used to trigger timeouts in the kernel.

Scott

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 Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 7:27 AM
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 Subject: Re: console problem
 
 
 Chuck Robey wrote:
 
  I've been on vacation for the last week, so I haven't been watching
  -current like a good boy should, but I've suddenly been 
 seeing a serious
  problem, and it *might* not have been reported, and seeing 
 as code freeze
  is almost here, it's worth risking a bit of embarrassment, I guess.
  
  Anyhow, it's the console, it's been locking up.  I just 
 retried it with a
  kernel cvsupped not 2 hours ago, and it's still here.  All 
 the vty's lock
  up, and once even froze the PC speaker (beeping annoyingly at me).
  
 
 I see the hanging Speaker problem on an Asus A7V with an 
 Athlon 2000+
 and 256 Megs of RAM, so it seems not SMP related, nor Tyan related.
 
 Holm
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RE: console problem

2002-12-04 Thread Chuck Robey
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Long, Scott wrote:

 This problem and the general 'console freeze' problem, and possibly
 even the 'floppy doesn't work anymore' problem should be fixed.  The
 problem was with the ahc and ahd drivers corrupting the callout list
 used to trigger timeouts in the kernel.

Pardon me for taking this long to answer, but the surest method of proving
the fix was a sufficient torture test. It's quite finished now, and this
is indeed a fix.

I'm curious how you got to looking into the ahc driver for an ostensible
syscons bug ... just perusing commit logs?


 Scott

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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: console problem
 
 
  Chuck Robey wrote:
 
   I've been on vacation for the last week, so I haven't been watching
   -current like a good boy should, but I've suddenly been
  seeing a serious
   problem, and it *might* not have been reported, and seeing
  as code freeze
   is almost here, it's worth risking a bit of embarrassment, I guess.
  
   Anyhow, it's the console, it's been locking up.  I just
  retried it with a
   kernel cvsupped not 2 hours ago, and it's still here.  All
  the vty's lock
   up, and once even froze the PC speaker (beeping annoyingly at me).
  
 
  I see the hanging Speaker problem on an Asus A7V with an
  Athlon 2000+
  and 256 Megs of RAM, so it seems not SMP related, nor Tyan related.
 
  Holm
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RE: console problem

2002-12-03 Thread Long, Scott
 It's not the fact that I have an extra, unused on-board video 
 (checked).
 Also, when the video output stops, the console still works 
 fine for input
 (keyboard never stops working normally).  Also, I can 
 successfully start X
 just fine.  It's just the vty's output that is stopped (all 
 vtys, alt-Fn
 has no effect on output, only input).  It's not wiped, just no further
 changes.  I tried issuing a vidcontrol; before lockup, color 
 change works
 fine, after, no effect.
 
 It's acting as if the mapping in memory to the video buffer 
 has changed.
 

The problem is that the syscons driver stops updating the 
display because it's timeout call to scrn_timeout() gets
lost and/or never re-armed.  The causes could be one or
more of the following:

1) a race in the syscons code that determines whether or not
to re-arm the periodic timeout.
2)  a race in the callout code that results in random timeouts
getting lost.  Since syscons timeout happens 10 times a second,
it has a high chance of being affected.
3) breakage in softclock, resulting in timeouts not being
triggered at all.  I highly doubt this one since the rest of the
machine works fine.

Note that while it happens easily on SMP machines, I was able to
trigger it last night on a UP box in the form of the syscons bell
getting turned on but not off.

My SMP box died while trying to debug this and I haven't been able to
get access to another one yet.  If anyone is interested in looking
at it, /sys/dev/syscons/syscons.c:scrn_timeout() is a good place
to start.

Scott

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Re: console problem

2002-12-02 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 04:07:32PM -0500, Chuck Robey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been on vacation for the last week, so I haven't been watching
 -current like a good boy should, but I've suddenly been seeing a serious
 problem, and it *might* not have been reported, and seeing as code freeze
 is almost here, it's worth risking a bit of embarrassment, I guess.
 
 Anyhow, it's the console, it's been locking up.  I just retried it with a
 kernel cvsupped not 2 hours ago, and it's still here.  All the vty's lock
 up, and once even froze the PC speaker (beeping annoyingly at me).
 
 There don't seem to be any hung processes.  I can use X, and I can also
 ssh into the box, so it's the console only.  Can't switch to different
 vty's, and the one i'm on is frozen, no response to any keys.
 
 It seems to come on more quickly if I do something serious, like a
 buildkernel.  Happened once on startup, but even though rc hadn't
 finished, I WAS able to ssh into the box and shut it down (indicating to
 me that rc had finished, just no response from the console).
 
 Machine is a 2 processor Tyan Thunder, 1G memory, two Athlons, scsi disks
 and eide both.

It's interesting that you seem to have almost same machine as I
have. Tyan Thunder with SCSI and ATA disks, SMP and the only
difference seems to be memory size, 1GB vs. 512MB. Not counting
network interfaces and such. I've also lost console after rebuild
yesterday. The kernel from Nov. 29 works. Mine (console) not locks
up but is simply missing from the start. Otherwise system is up and
running. I don't think it's coincidence, something is broken and
related to the Tyan mobos we have.
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Re: console problem

2002-12-02 Thread Chuck Robey
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Vallo Kallaste wrote:

  Anyhow, it's the console, it's been locking up.  I just retried it with a
  kernel cvsupped not 2 hours ago, and it's still here.  All the vty's lock
  up, and once even froze the PC speaker (beeping annoyingly at me).
 
  There don't seem to be any hung processes.  I can use X, and I can also
  ssh into the box, so it's the console only.  Can't switch to different
  vty's, and the one i'm on is frozen, no response to any keys.
 
  It seems to come on more quickly if I do something serious, like a
  buildkernel.  Happened once on startup, but even though rc hadn't
  finished, I WAS able to ssh into the box and shut it down (indicating to
  me that rc had finished, just no response from the console).
 
  Machine is a 2 processor Tyan Thunder, 1G memory, two Athlons, scsi disks
  and eide both.

 It's interesting that you seem to have almost same machine as I
 have. Tyan Thunder with SCSI and ATA disks, SMP and the only
 difference seems to be memory size, 1GB vs. 512MB. Not counting
 network interfaces and such. I've also lost console after rebuild
 yesterday. The kernel from Nov. 29 works. Mine (console) not locks
 up but is simply missing from the start. Otherwise system is up and
 running. I don't think it's coincidence, something is broken and
 related to the Tyan mobos we have.

Are you using the on-board video?  I have an extra video card, and had to
reflash the board because before reflash, I used to have this problem.  It
went away after reflash, and your references to the mobo reminded me.

Tonight, I'll see if the video just goes back to the onboard card.




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Re: console problem

2002-12-02 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 09:04:22AM -0500, Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Machine is a 2 processor Tyan Thunder, 1G memory, two Athlons, scsi disks
   and eide both.
 
  It's interesting that you seem to have almost same machine as I
  have. Tyan Thunder with SCSI and ATA disks, SMP and the only
  difference seems to be memory size, 1GB vs. 512MB. Not counting
  network interfaces and such. I've also lost console after rebuild
  yesterday. The kernel from Nov. 29 works. Mine (console) not locks
  up but is simply missing from the start. Otherwise system is up and
  running. I don't think it's coincidence, something is broken and
  related to the Tyan mobos we have.
 
 Are you using the on-board video?  I have an extra video card, and had to
 reflash the board because before reflash, I used to have this problem.  It
 went away after reflash, and your references to the mobo reminded me.
 
 Tonight, I'll see if the video just goes back to the onboard card.

I'm not aware of any Tyan Thunder mobos which have onboard
integrated video. I have addon AGP video card, Matrox G400 with 32MB
of memory and single head. Umm, I made mistake identifying your
board as similar to mine, sorry. I _had_ Tyan Thunder (S1836
variety), but it's been replaced long ago with Tyan Thunderbolt,
S1837UANG. The original burned down because of faulty current
regulator on the mb and took one of my processors together in the
process. I'll not forget it, even after the current mb has been
working fine for two and half years. Sorry about confusion.
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Re: console problem

2002-12-02 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 04:33:27PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote:
 I'm not aware of any Tyan Thunder mobos which have onboard
 integrated video.

They *all* do.  (meaning all the Tyan dual-K7 Thunders)

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Re: console problem

2002-12-02 Thread Manfred Antar
At 02:59 PM 12/2/2002 +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote:
On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 04:07:32PM -0500, Chuck Robey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been on vacation for the last week, so I haven't been watching
 -current like a good boy should, but I've suddenly been seeing a serious
 problem, and it *might* not have been reported, and seeing as code freeze
 is almost here, it's worth risking a bit of embarrassment, I guess.
 
 Anyhow, it's the console, it's been locking up.  I just retried it with a
 kernel cvsupped not 2 hours ago, and it's still here.  All the vty's lock
 up, and once even froze the PC speaker (beeping annoyingly at me).
 
 There don't seem to be any hung processes.  I can use X, and I can also
 ssh into the box, so it's the console only.  Can't switch to different
 vty's, and the one i'm on is frozen, no response to any keys.
 
 It seems to come on more quickly if I do something serious, like a
 buildkernel.  Happened once on startup, but even though rc hadn't
 finished, I WAS able to ssh into the box and shut it down (indicating to
 me that rc had finished, just no response from the console).
 
 Machine is a 2 processor Tyan Thunder, 1G memory, two Athlons, scsi disks
 and eide both.

It's interesting that you seem to have almost same machine as I
have. Tyan Thunder with SCSI and ATA disks, SMP and the only
difference seems to be memory size, 1GB vs. 512MB. Not counting
network interfaces and such. I've also lost console after rebuild
yesterday. The kernel from Nov. 29 works. Mine (console) not locks
up but is simply missing from the start. Otherwise system is up and
running. I don't think it's coincidence, something is broken and
related to the Tyan mobos we have.
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I have the same problem here on an Intel PR440FX dual pentium-pro MB.
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Re: console problem

2002-12-02 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 10:33:55AM -0800, David O'Brien
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 04:33:27PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote:
  I'm not aware of any Tyan Thunder mobos which have onboard
  integrated video.
 
 They *all* do.  (meaning all the Tyan dual-K7 Thunders)

Sorry about confusion, I was so bound to my Thunder(bolt). The
S183[67] are Slot1 boards. Seems that marketing buzzword thunder
got the water turbid once again.
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Re: console problem

2002-12-02 Thread Jos Backus
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 10:40:21AM -0800, Manfred Antar wrote:
  There don't seem to be any hung processes.  I can use X, and I can also
  ssh into the box, so it's the console only.  Can't switch to different
  vty's, and the one i'm on is frozen, no response to any keys.

Same here on this morning's kernel (PST) on a Dell Precision 420 SMP system
(Intel 840 chipset).  The problem appears to also be present on an SMP kernel
built on Nov 25th. No problems with UP kernels.

It seems to be an output-related problem because I can login blindly to the
machine to start X. Also, when I press Ctl-Alt-Del to shut the machine down,
the missing output (banner, login prompts, shell prompts/commands) suddenly
appears on the console.

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RE: console problem

2002-12-02 Thread Long, Scott
 
 On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 10:40:21AM -0800, Manfred Antar wrote:
   There don't seem to be any hung processes.  I can use X, 
 and I can also
   ssh into the box, so it's the console only.  Can't 
 switch to different
   vty's, and the one i'm on is frozen, no response to any keys.
 
 Same here on this morning's kernel (PST) on a Dell Precision 
 420 SMP system
 (Intel 840 chipset).  The problem appears to also be present 
 on an SMP kernel
 built on Nov 25th. No problems with UP kernels.
 
 It seems to be an output-related problem because I can login 
 blindly to the
 machine to start X. Also, when I press Ctl-Alt-Del to shut 
 the machine down,
 the missing output (banner, login prompts, shell 
 prompts/commands) suddenly
 appears on the console.
 

I was seeing the problem on my 2x550Mhz machine yesterday, but the
machine died of other causes before I could fully track it down.
What I found is that the timeout function of syscons
(scrn_timeout()) stops getting called after a certain random point
during the processing of the rc scripts.  It happened most often
when the network was being configured.  Without this timeout, the
console never gets updated except when flushed by a kernel printf.
As you noted, input still works fine.  Unfortunately, I wasn't
able to track this down any farther.

Scott

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Re: console problem

2002-12-02 Thread Chuck Robey
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Manfred Antar wrote:

  Anyhow, it's the console, it's been locking up.  I just retried it with a
  kernel cvsupped not 2 hours ago, and it's still here.  All the vty's lock
  up, and once even froze the PC speaker (beeping annoyingly at me).
 
  There don't seem to be any hung processes.  I can use X, and I can also
  ssh into the box, so it's the console only.  Can't switch to different
  vty's, and the one i'm on is frozen, no response to any keys.
 
  It seems to come on more quickly if I do something serious, like a
  buildkernel.  Happened once on startup, but even though rc hadn't
  finished, I WAS able to ssh into the box and shut it down (indicating to
  me that rc had finished, just no response from the console).
 
  Machine is a 2 processor Tyan Thunder, 1G memory, two Athlons, scsi disks
  and eide both.
 
 It's interesting that you seem to have almost same machine as I
 have. Tyan Thunder with SCSI and ATA disks, SMP and the only

 I have the same problem here on an Intel PR440FX dual pentium-pro MB.
 Manfred

It's not the fact that I have an extra, unused on-board video (checked).
Also, when the video output stops, the console still works fine for input
(keyboard never stops working normally).  Also, I can successfully start X
just fine.  It's just the vty's output that is stopped (all vtys, alt-Fn
has no effect on output, only input).  It's not wiped, just no further
changes.  I tried issuing a vidcontrol; before lockup, color change works
fine, after, no effect.

It's acting as if the mapping in memory to the video buffer has changed.


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Re: console problem

2002-12-01 Thread Manfred Antar
At 04:07 PM 12/1/2002 -0500, Chuck Robey wrote:
I've been on vacation for the last week, so I haven't been watching
-current like a good boy should, but I've suddenly been seeing a serious
problem, and it *might* not have been reported, and seeing as code freeze
is almost here, it's worth risking a bit of embarrassment, I guess.

Anyhow, it's the console, it's been locking up.  I just retried it with a
kernel cvsupped not 2 hours ago, and it's still here.  All the vty's lock
up, and once even froze the PC speaker (beeping annoyingly at me).

There don't seem to be any hung processes.  I can use X, and I can also
ssh into the box, so it's the console only.  Can't switch to different
vty's, and the one i'm on is frozen, no response to any keys.

It seems to come on more quickly if I do something serious, like a
buildkernel.  Happened once on startup, but even though rc hadn't
finished, I WAS able to ssh into the box and shut it down (indicating to
me that rc had finished, just no response from the console).

Machine is a 2 processor Tyan Thunder, 1G memory, two Athlons, scsi disks
and eide both.


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I'm seeing the same here and the same on a serial console.
Kernel from Friday 29 Nov. 8pm PST sources works
So it happened sometime after that
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Re: console problem

2002-12-01 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Manfred Antar wrote:

 Anyhow, it's the console, it's been locking up.  I just retried it with a
 kernel cvsupped not 2 hours ago, and it's still here.  All the vty's lock
 up, and once even froze the PC speaker (beeping annoyingly at me).
 
 There don't seem to be any hung processes.  I can use X, and I can also
 ssh into the box, so it's the console only.  Can't switch to different
 vty's, and the one i'm on is frozen, no response to any keys.
 
 It seems to come on more quickly if I do something serious, like a
 buildkernel.  Happened once on startup, but even though rc hadn't
 finished, I WAS able to ssh into the box and shut it down (indicating to
 me that rc had finished, just no response from the console).
 
 Machine is a 2 processor Tyan Thunder, 1G memory, two Athlons, scsi disks
 and eide both.
 
 I'm seeing the same here and the same on a serial console.
 Kernel from Friday 29 Nov. 8pm PST sources works
 So it happened sometime after that
 Manfred

OK, did two full rebuilds,once using ssh, once using x.  The one using ssh
was fine, the one using X did hang the console, but the only way to notice
that was because the PC speaker hangs while sounding off.

I read the commitlogs, the only one that seemed at all connected with the
console was this one (a weak link, admittedly):

begin commit message
imp 2002/11/29 16:49:43 PST

  Modified files:
sys/kern subr_bus.c
  Log:
  devd kernel improvements:
  1) Record all device events when devctl is enabled, rather than just when
 devd has devctl open.  This is necessary to prevent races between when
 a device arrives, and when devd starts.
  2) Add hw.bus.devctl_disable to disable devctl, this can also be set as a
 tunable.
  3) Fix async support. Reset nonblocking and async_td in open.  remove
 async flags.
  4) Free all memory when devctl is disabled.

  Approved by: re (blanket)

  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.117 +38 -21src/sys/kern/subr_bus.c
===end commit message==

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Re: console problem

2002-12-01 Thread Manfred Antar
At 06:52 PM 12/1/2002 -0500, Chuck Robey wrote:
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Manfred Antar wrote:

 Anyhow, it's the console, it's been locking up.  I just retried it with a
 kernel cvsupped not 2 hours ago, and it's still here.  All the vty's lock
 up, and once even froze the PC speaker (beeping annoyingly at me).
 
 There don't seem to be any hung processes.  I can use X, and I can also
 ssh into the box, so it's the console only.  Can't switch to different
 vty's, and the one i'm on is frozen, no response to any keys.
 
 It seems to come on more quickly if I do something serious, like a
 buildkernel.  Happened once on startup, but even though rc hadn't
 finished, I WAS able to ssh into the box and shut it down (indicating to
 me that rc had finished, just no response from the console).
 
 Machine is a 2 processor Tyan Thunder, 1G memory, two Athlons, scsi disks
 and eide both.
 
 I'm seeing the same here and the same on a serial console.
 Kernel from Friday 29 Nov. 8pm PST sources works
 So it happened sometime after that
 Manfred

OK, did two full rebuilds,once using ssh, once using x.  The one using ssh
was fine, the one using X did hang the console, but the only way to notice
that was because the PC speaker hangs while sounding off.

I read the commitlogs, the only one that seemed at all connected with the
console was this one (a weak link, admittedly):

begin commit message
imp 2002/11/29 16:49:43 PST

  Modified files:
sys/kern subr_bus.c
  Log:
  devd kernel improvements:
  1) Record all device events when devctl is enabled, rather than just when
 devd has devctl open.  This is necessary to prevent races between when
 a device arrives, and when devd starts.
  2) Add hw.bus.devctl_disable to disable devctl, this can also be set as a
 tunable.
  3) Fix async support. Reset nonblocking and async_td in open.  remove
 async flags.
  4) Free all memory when devctl is disabled.

  Approved by: re (blanket)

  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.117 +38 -21src/sys/kern/subr_bus.c
===end commit message==

Chuck
I tried backing out sub_bus.c to the earlier version and still the same thing happens
So it must be something else
Manfred

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