Re: problems with openssl in 4.0rc and ports/security/openssh

2000-02-13 Thread Mark Huizer

  I installed a fresh 4.0 release candidate this morning, including the
  crypto stuff (des, kerberos...). Tried to install openssh from ports
  tree as well, but couldn't. It was looking for
  /usr/include/openssl/rsa.h which was not there, and I couldn't find a
  knob to turn RSA requirement off.
 Where did you obtain your crypto sources from? You should be using
 internat.freebsd.org, which should have the RSA header (i.e you should not
 be using a US mirror site). Can you verify this?
No sources, binary install.
 
 I haven't updated the openssh port yet to use the system version of
 openssl - once it's updated it will point you to a section of the handbook
 to explain what you need to do first (Chapter 6.5, thanks Jim :-) if it
 can't build with the version of openssl you currently have. The packages
 it refers to aren't yet available, because I haven't had the time to build
 them, but I'll either be doing this tonight or over the weekend. You'll
 have to rebuild from source as it explains there.
hmm... ok. well, not too very important I guess, just a shame that it
didn't work.
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Re: problems with openssl in 4.0rc and ports/security/openssh

2000-02-13 Thread Mark Huizer

  internat:/home/ftp/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.0-2211-SNAP/des  cat des.?? | 
tar -tzvf - | grep rsa
  -r--r--r-- root/wheel12208 Feb 12 07:09 2000 usr/include/openssl/rsa.h
  
  Or is there something that I miss?
 
 That looks right. I think the original person was getting their crypto
 from the wrong place.
 
The original person was not getting crypto anywhere, just installing
from the install floppies, which didn't seem to work somehow for
installing this port. That is all

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Re: problems with openssl in 4.0rc and ports/security/openssh

2000-02-12 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Motoyuki Konno wrote:

 Related question:
 
 Are there any plan to distribute USA_RESIDENT=NO version of
 des binary distribution?
 
 If not, non-USA users must rebuilt the crypto libraries from
 source to use international-crypto packages.
 
 The des distribution (des/des.??) of the 4.0 release candidate
 does not includes RSA headers nor RSA binaries, because they
 were built as USA_RESIDENT=YES.

Are you referring to the crypto distribution? Mark Murray
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is the person you need to talk to about non-US crypto
stuff.

Kris


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Re: problems with openssl in 4.0rc and ports/security/openssh

2000-02-12 Thread John Hay

 
  Related question:
  
  Are there any plan to distribute USA_RESIDENT=NO version of
  des binary distribution?
  
  If not, non-USA users must rebuilt the crypto libraries from
  source to use international-crypto packages.
  
  The des distribution (des/des.??) of the 4.0 release candidate
  does not includes RSA headers nor RSA binaries, because they
  were built as USA_RESIDENT=YES.
 
 Are you referring to the crypto distribution? Mark Murray
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is the person you need to talk to about non-US crypto
 stuff.

Well I'm not Mark Murray, but I have been building the snaps on internat
and to me it looks like rsa.h is included:

internat:/home/ftp/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.0-2211-SNAP/des  cat des.?? | tar 
-tzvf - | grep rsa
-r--r--r-- root/wheel12208 Feb 12 07:09 2000 usr/include/openssl/rsa.h

Or is there something that I miss?

John
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Re: problems with openssl in 4.0rc and ports/security/openssh

2000-02-12 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, John Hay wrote:


 and to me it looks like rsa.h is included:
 
 internat:/home/ftp/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.0-2211-SNAP/des  cat des.?? | 
tar -tzvf - | grep rsa
 -r--r--r-- root/wheel12208 Feb 12 07:09 2000 usr/include/openssl/rsa.h
 
 Or is there something that I miss?

That looks right. I think the original person was getting their crypto
from the wrong place.

Kris


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Re: problems with openssl in 4.0rc and ports/security/openssh

2000-02-12 Thread Jim Bloom

The problem initially reported was made worse by a couple of things.  First,
Kris has not yet committed the changes to the openssh port so that it will issue
errors about the cryptography not being installed "correctly".  This will not be
in all ports that use openssl when 4.0 is released.  The ports which will not be
modified are the ones which are using configure to find openssl and have not had
build problems reported.  (I have been looking at bento's error reports, but not
on the ports mailing list since I can't handle the additional e-mail volume.) 
These include several ports which simply disable SSL when they do not link
correctly when they test for the existence of openssl (RSA symbols undefined). 
(If you come across any ports like this, please let Kris and me know so we can
patch the port.)  I also still have a couple ports in this class to be
completed.  The ports Kris and I have fixed also will use the system version of
openssl over the port if it is installed.  Unpatched ports may use either
version if the openssl port is installed.

Next, the error messages in ports/MK/bsd.ports.mk refer to a section of the
handbook which had not been committed when the release candidate was created
(and is still not on the web).  We still need the packages (USA and
international) created to upgrade the cryptography to include RSA.

In conclussion, this will never be completed fixed (until all of the legal
issues disappear).  People will need to manually install upgraded cryptography
as part of installing.  The original complaint just points out that we are not
yet at the point where we want to be for the final release of 4.0, but that was
why 4.0RC was created.

Jim Bloom
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Kris Kennaway wrote:
 
 On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, John Hay wrote:
 
  and to me it looks like rsa.h is included:
 
  internat:/home/ftp/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.0-2211-SNAP/des  cat des.?? | 
tar -tzvf - | grep rsa
  -r--r--r-- root/wheel12208 Feb 12 07:09 2000 usr/include/openssl/rsa.h
 
  Or is there something that I miss?
 
 That looks right. I think the original person was getting their crypto
 from the wrong place.
 
 Kris


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Re: problems with openssl in 4.0rc and ports/security/openssh

2000-02-12 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard

 Are there any plan to distribute USA_RESIDENT=NO version of
 des binary distribution?

I have no current plans to build such a thing and am USA_RESIDENT
myself so it would be a questionable thing from a legal standpoint, I
think.  I can hardly wait until September when the RSA patent expires! :)

- Jordan


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Re: problems with openssl in 4.0rc and ports/security/openssh

2000-02-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes:
 Are there any plan to distribute USA_RESIDENT=NO version of
 des binary distribution?

I have no current plans to build such a thing and am USA_RESIDENT
myself so it would be a questionable thing from a legal standpoint, I
think.  I can hardly wait until September when the RSA patent expires! :)

Could somebody send a short overview of the "crypto in FreeBSD" 
situation ?  I bet there are more people than me who have lost
track of what is in, what is out and what USA_RESIDENT changes...


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Re: problems with openssl in 4.0rc and ports/security/openssh

2000-02-12 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

 Could somebody send a short overview of the "crypto in FreeBSD" 
 situation ?  I bet there are more people than me who have lost
 track of what is in, what is out and what USA_RESIDENT changes...

See the new chapter 6.5 in the handbook for an explanation of the openssl 
situation. That's all thats really changed lately.

Kris


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Re: problems with openssl in 4.0rc and ports/security/openssh

2000-02-11 Thread Patrick M. Hausen

Hi Mark!

 I installed a fresh 4.0 release candidate this morning, including the
 crypto stuff (des, kerberos...). Tried to install openssh from ports
 tree as well, but couldn't. It was looking for
 /usr/include/openssl/rsa.h which was not there, and I couldn't find a
 knob to turn RSA requirement off.

If you have USA_RESIDENT set to "NO", make sure, you cvsup crypto
sources from cvsup.internat.freebsd.org.

cvsup.de.freebsd.org (e.g.) carries US crypto sources which don't install
RSA since they have to use RSAREF.

HTH,
Patrick


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Re: problems with openssl in 4.0rc and ports/security/openssh

2000-02-11 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Mark Huizer wrote:

 I installed a fresh 4.0 release candidate this morning, including the
 crypto stuff (des, kerberos...). Tried to install openssh from ports
 tree as well, but couldn't. It was looking for
 /usr/include/openssl/rsa.h which was not there, and I couldn't find a
 knob to turn RSA requirement off.

Where did you obtain your crypto sources from? You should be using
internat.freebsd.org, which should have the RSA header (i.e you should not
be using a US mirror site). Can you verify this?

I haven't updated the openssh port yet to use the system version of
openssl - once it's updated it will point you to a section of the handbook
to explain what you need to do first (Chapter 6.5, thanks Jim :-) if it
can't build with the version of openssl you currently have. The packages
it refers to aren't yet available, because I haven't had the time to build
them, but I'll either be doing this tonight or over the weekend. You'll
have to rebuild from source as it explains there.

Kris


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"Eight!"
"That was a rhetorical question!"
"Oh..then, seven!" -- Homer Simpson



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