Re: HEADS UP: Removal of libobjc from the base system

2011-04-18 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni

--- On Mon, 4/18/11, Scott Long  wrote:

... 
> > 
> > We do not have f2c in tree and it was disconnected
> from the build even
> > longer than that.
> > 
> 
> Guess I was looking on an old system, sorry for the noise.
> 
> Scott
> 

Ugh.. pointyhat is all mine please...

It's still linked in the wiki, so I got confused:

http://wiki.freebsd.org/ContribSoftware

Pedro
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Re: HEADS UP: Removal of libobjc from the base system

2011-04-18 Thread Scott Long
On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Alexander Kabaev wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:37:10 -0700 (PDT)
> "Pedro F. Giffuni"  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Scott Long  wrote:
>> ...
 Yeah it's too outdated to be of any use.
 
 IMHO, you can axe libf2c too...
 
>>> 
>>> Honest question here, is there a newer version of libf2c
>>> that lives in ports and is adopted by people who use
>>> fortran?  The one that I find in the base system seems
>>> to be a similar match to the one in ports/devel/f2c. 
>>> Is the one in the base system a pain to maintain or
>>> otherwise holding back other work, or has it been made
>>> obsolete by something in ports?  Is removing it from
>>> the base system anything more than just churn?
>>> 
>> 
>> I am a moderate user of Fortran: when I need it I use
>> gfortran instead of f2c. lang/f2c is in the ports tree,
>> and the one port I made (tochnog) that actually depends
>> on libf2c uses the port, not the system library.
>> 
>> Considering we are not carrying fortran in base anymore,
>> it would seem logical to kill libf2c, but it must be said
>> the f2c port originates in netlib, I have no idea where
>> the GPL'd libf2c comes from or if there is any significant
>> difference.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>> Pedro.
>> 
> 
> We do not have f2c in tree and it was disconnected from the build even
> longer than that.
> 

Guess I was looking on an old system, sorry for the noise.

Scott


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Re: HEADS UP: Removal of libobjc from the base system

2011-04-18 Thread Alexander Kabaev
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:37:10 -0700 (PDT)
"Pedro F. Giffuni"  wrote:

> 
> --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Scott Long  wrote:
> ...
> > > Yeah it's too outdated to be of any use.
> > > 
> > > IMHO, you can axe libf2c too...
> > > 
> > 
> > Honest question here, is there a newer version of libf2c
> > that lives in ports and is adopted by people who use
> > fortran?  The one that I find in the base system seems
> > to be a similar match to the one in ports/devel/f2c. 
> > Is the one in the base system a pain to maintain or
> > otherwise holding back other work, or has it been made
> > obsolete by something in ports?  Is removing it from
> > the base system anything more than just churn?
> > 
> 
> I am a moderate user of Fortran: when I need it I use
> gfortran instead of f2c. lang/f2c is in the ports tree,
> and the one port I made (tochnog) that actually depends
> on libf2c uses the port, not the system library.
> 
> Considering we are not carrying fortran in base anymore,
> it would seem logical to kill libf2c, but it must be said
> the f2c port originates in netlib, I have no idea where
> the GPL'd libf2c comes from or if there is any significant
> difference.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Pedro.
>  

We do not have f2c in tree and it was disconnected from the build even
longer than that.

-- 
Alexander Kabaev


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Re: HEADS UP: Removal of libobjc from the base system

2011-04-18 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni

--- On Mon, 4/18/11, Scott Long  wrote:
...
> > Yeah it's too outdated to be of any use.
> > 
> > IMHO, you can axe libf2c too...
> > 
> 
> Honest question here, is there a newer version of libf2c
> that lives in ports and is adopted by people who use
> fortran?  The one that I find in the base system seems
> to be a similar match to the one in ports/devel/f2c. 
> Is the one in the base system a pain to maintain or
> otherwise holding back other work, or has it been made
> obsolete by something in ports?  Is removing it from
> the base system anything more than just churn?
> 

I am a moderate user of Fortran: when I need it I use
gfortran instead of f2c. lang/f2c is in the ports tree,
and the one port I made (tochnog) that actually depends
on libf2c uses the port, not the system library.

Considering we are not carrying fortran in base anymore,
it would seem logical to kill libf2c, but it must be said
the f2c port originates in netlib, I have no idea where
the GPL'd libf2c comes from or if there is any significant
difference.

cheers,

Pedro.

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Re: HEADS UP: Removal of libobjc from the base system

2011-04-17 Thread Scott Long
On Apr 17, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote:
> Yeah it's too outdated to be of any use.
> 
> IMHO, you can axe libf2c too...
> 

Honest question here, is there a newer version of libf2c that lives in ports 
and is adopted by people who use fortran?  The one that I find in the base 
system seems to be a similar match to the one in ports/devel/f2c.  Is the one 
in the base system a pain to maintain or otherwise holding back other work, or 
has it been made obsolete by something in ports?  Is removing it from the base 
system anything more than just churn?

With libobjc, the one in ports looks to indeed be a lot newer, and I'll take it 
on faith that the gnustep ports automatically installs it, overriding the base 
copy and making it essentially obsolete.


Scott


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Re: HEADS UP: Removal of libobjc from the base system

2011-04-17 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Yeah it's too outdated to be of any use.

IMHO, you can axe libf2c too...

cheers,

Pedro.
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HEADS UP: Removal of libobjc from the base system

2011-04-17 Thread Dimitry Andric

I will be removing libobjc and other Objective-C related components
from the base system, as these are extremely outdated, and not used by
anything in the base system.

The previous thread about this (*) did not generate much discussion, but
if there are any objections, please speak up.


*) http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?2AD11EA8-18FC-46E1-AE97-184599A054AD
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Re: Removal of libobjc

2010-10-15 Thread Rui Paulo

On 15 Oct 2010, at 20:19, Roman Divacky wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 08:15:52PM +0100, Rui Paulo wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I was hoping we could remove libobjc from the base system as it's seriously 
>> outdated and it's not used by anything on the base system.
>> 
>> If there are any objections, please speak up.
> 
> please wait until the ports are converted to use libobjc2 (already in 
> progress)..
> 
> it should be a few days/weeks at most now I think

Yes, I was just asking if someone was against it.

Regards,
--
Rui Paulo


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Re: Removal of libobjc

2010-10-15 Thread Roman Divacky
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 08:15:52PM +0100, Rui Paulo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I was hoping we could remove libobjc from the base system as it's seriously 
> outdated and it's not used by anything on the base system.
> 
> If there are any objections, please speak up.

please wait until the ports are converted to use libobjc2 (already in 
progress)..

it should be a few days/weeks at most now I think

roman
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Removal of libobjc

2010-10-15 Thread Rui Paulo
Hi,

I was hoping we could remove libobjc from the base system as it's seriously 
outdated and it's not used by anything on the base system.

If there are any objections, please speak up.

Regards,
--
Rui Paulo


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