Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-04 Thread Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami
 * From: David O'Brien obr...@nuxi.com

 * So the fix we mentioned might not be needed with the base EGCS.  Maybe
 * you can just compile all the ports just to see where we stand.  I don't

Well, as soon as the first snapshot with the system egcs is released,
I'm planning to grab it and run the build through it.  The logs will
be at the normal place (http://bento/~asami/errorlogs/).

-W


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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-04 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Alex Zepeda:
 Personally, I'd vote for using the new runtime objects, and forcing binary
 incompatibility.  It's worth it IMO for the exception handling support if
 nothing else.  However, if you're dead set against it, just back up your
 runtime objects, and edit the spec file (like the egcs port forced you to
 do at one time, and probably still does).

The problem I see is that exceptions are for C++ and forcing ANSI C files
to be compiled with -fexceptions and linked with new runtime objects is
probably not the best way...
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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-04 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to David E . O'Brien:
 src/lib/csu/i386-elf will build and install crtbegin.o and crtend.o from
 the EGCS sources.  Otherwise we have to use the poorer exception
 unwinding method.

Is there a runtime overhead of using these files even for C programs ?
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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-04 Thread John Polstra
In article 19990403193632.a55...@titan.klemm.gtn.com,
Andreas Klemm  andr...@klemm.gtn.com wrote:
 Got the latest egcs port
 
 # $Id: Makefile,v 1.53 1999/03/30 02:58:02 obrien Exp $
 
 Build X11R6 with the following CFLAGS:
 
   -pipe -mpentiumpro -O2
 
 I'm still running X11 and after ,make install' I'm unable
 to launch x applications (xterm, ...)
 
 andr...@titan{1001} $ xterm
 /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6: Undefined symbol 
 __deregister_frame_info

There are two things going on here.  First, I believe you must have
built libXaw.so.6 using egcs, but you must have linked xterm using
the normal system compiler.  (Or else you or the Makefile used ld
directly, which is always a bad idea.)  If the executable is linked
using egcs, then this error won't happen.

Second, egcs actually contains a hack which attempts to make it work
anyway, even if you linked the program using the old compiler.  But
there is a dynamic linker bug (which I just discovered) that prevents
the hack from working.  I am testing the fix for that now.

John
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X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Andreas Klemm
Got the latest egcs port

# $Id: Makefile,v 1.53 1999/03/30 02:58:02 obrien Exp $

Build X11R6 with the following CFLAGS:

-pipe -mpentiumpro -O2

I'm still running X11 and after ,make install' I'm unable
to launch x applications (xterm, ...)

andr...@titan{1001} $ xterm
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6: Undefined symbol 
__deregister_frame_info
Exit 1

Is this a problem with egcs ? Or did I overlook something ?

My freebsd 3.1-STABLE kernel, compiled with -pipe -O2 -mpentiumpro,
runs fine since half a day.

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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Steve Price
David O'Brien forwarded me a message a couple of days ago that
contains a fix that may help.  You need to add the following
line at line 301 in target.make

-u __deregister_frame_info \

-steve

On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Andreas Klemm wrote:

# Got the latest egcs port
# 
# # $Id: Makefile,v 1.53 1999/03/30 02:58:02 obrien Exp $
# 
# Build X11R6 with the following CFLAGS:
# 
#   -pipe -mpentiumpro -O2
# 
# I'm still running X11 and after ,make install' I'm unable
# to launch x applications (xterm, ...)
# 
# andr...@titan{1001} $ xterm
# /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6: Undefined symbol 
__deregister_frame_info
# Exit 1
# 
# Is this a problem with egcs ? Or did I overlook something ?
# 
# My freebsd 3.1-STABLE kernel, compiled with -pipe -O2 -mpentiumpro,
# runs fine since half a day.
# 
# -- 
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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Amancio Hasty
Actually, it probably means that the program must be compiled with 
-fexecptions.


Here is a little clue:

from egcs-1.1.2:

./gcc/frame.c:/* Called from crtbegin.o to deregister the unwind info for an 
object.  */
./gcc/frame.c:__deregister_frame_info (void *begin)
./gcc/frame.c:__deregister_frame (void *begin)
./gcc/frame.c:  free (__deregister_frame_info (begin));

Just tried to compile apache and apache's jserv and got hit by the above bug 
so I hope
that this gets resolved prior to using egcs as the default.

Amancio



 David O'Brien forwarded me a message a couple of days ago that
 contains a fix that may help.  You need to add the following
 line at line 301 in target.make
 
   -u __deregister_frame_info \
 
 -steve
 
 On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Andreas Klemm wrote:
 
 # Got the latest egcs port
 # 
 # # $Id: Makefile,v 1.53 1999/03/30 02:58:02 obrien Exp $
 # 
 # Build X11R6 with the following CFLAGS:
 # 
 # -pipe -mpentiumpro -O2
 # 
 # I'm still running X11 and after ,make install' I'm unable
 # to launch x applications (xterm, ...)
 # 
 # andr...@titan{1001} $ xterm
 # /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6: Undefined symbol 
 __deregister_frame_info
 # Exit 1
 # 
 # Is this a problem with egcs ? Or did I overlook something ?
 # 
 # My freebsd 3.1-STABLE kernel, compiled with -pipe -O2 -mpentiumpro,
 # runs fine since half a day.
 # 
 # -- 
 # Andreas Klemm   http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas
 #   http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html
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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread David O'Brien
 Just tried to compile apache and apache's jserv and got hit by the
 above bug so I hope that this gets resolved prior to using egcs as the
 default.

I doubt it will.

I expect there will be significant breakage of non-world after the
commit.  I've significantly tested kernel and world, but I haven't tried
ports at all.

People may be well advised to CVSup and `make world' (or don't CVSup
again for a while) sometime before Sunday California PDT time (-7hrs
Zulu).

The rockiness of -CURRENT is about to be upon us.
 
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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Steve Price
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, David O'Brien wrote:

#  Just tried to compile apache and apache's jserv and got hit by the
#  above bug so I hope that this gets resolved prior to using egcs as the
#  default.
# 
# I doubt it will.

Me too. :/

# I expect there will be significant breakage of non-world after the
# commit.  I've significantly tested kernel and world, but I haven't tried
# ports at all.

I got everything setup to build the entire ports collection and
sometime during the night the big IDE disk that I keep all the
distfiles and packages on went south. :(  It had been acting funny
lately.  I think it finally decided it had seen enough.  I'm off
to the store to pick up another and then by work where I have a
T1 to grab all the distfiles that are not on the 3.1 CDs.  I sure
hope Satoshi is following this because it doesn't look like I'm
going to be able to get very far before the switch is thrown.

In fact now is probably a good time to post something to the ports
mailing list.  I'll send out something brief before I head off to
the store.

# People may be well advised to CVSup and `make world' (or don't CVSup
# again for a while) sometime before Sunday California PDT time (-7hrs
# Zulu).
# 
# The rockiness of -CURRENT is about to be upon us.

Committers brush up on your edit-pr skills, we're in for a load
of fun in the following weeks.

-steve

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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Amancio Hasty:
 Actually, it probably means that the program must be compiled with 
 -fexecptions.

The problem is that egcs 1.1.2 has its own crt*.o files and use them in
place of the FreeBSD one. By moving the files elsewhere, it works. I don't
know the effect on exceptions though.

I tumbled in this problem when compiling Perl 5.005_03 with egcs and moving 
the files away solved the problem.

I don't know what David plan to do with these crt*.o files. David ?
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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Ollivier Robert wrote:

 According to Amancio Hasty:
  Actually, it probably means that the program must be compiled with 
  -fexecptions.
 
 The problem is that egcs 1.1.2 has its own crt*.o files and use them in
 place of the FreeBSD one. By moving the files elsewhere, it works. I don't
 know the effect on exceptions though.
 
 I tumbled in this problem when compiling Perl 5.005_03 with egcs and moving 
 the files away solved the problem.
 
 I don't know what David plan to do with these crt*.o files. David ?

Personally, I'd vote for using the new runtime objects, and forcing binary
incompatibility.  It's worth it IMO for the exception handling support if
nothing else.  However, if you're dead set against it, just back up your
runtime objects, and edit the spec file (like the egcs port forced you to
do at one time, and probably still does).

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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread David O'Brien
 gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314 (egcs-1.1.2 release)
  /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i386-portbld-freebsd3.1/egcs-2.91.66/collect2 -m 
 elf_i38
 6 -dynamic-linker /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 -o resize /usr/lib/crt1.o 
 /usr/lib/cr
 ti.o /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i386-portbld-freebsd3.1/egcs-2.91.66/crtbegin.o 
 -L..
 /../exports/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib 
 -L/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i386-portbld-freebsd3.
 1/egcs-2.91.66 -L/usr/local/i386-portbld-freebsd3.1/lib -L/usr/local/lib 
 resize.
 o -lxpg4 -lrpcsvc -lkrb -ldes -lcrypt -ltermcap -rpath /usr/X11R6/lib -lgcc 
 -lc
 -lgcc /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i386-portbld-freebsd3.1/egcs-2.91.66/crtend.o 
 /usr/
 lib/crtn.o

Looking at the link line, I don't see anything wrong on 1st glance.
 
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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread David O'Brien
 I got everything setup to build the entire ports collection and
 sometime during the night the big IDE disk that I keep all the

I'm not sure the best way to approach this.  The specification file used
in the port is different from the one that will be in the base system.
(the on in the Port is more stock EGCS)  The base system will have many
more of our hacks.

So the fix we mentioned might not be needed with the base EGCS.  Maybe
you can just compile all the ports just to see where we stand.  I don't
expect *any* problems with ports that use the C compiler.  All the
problems I think we might have are C++ compiler issues.

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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Amancio Hasty
I have been compiling Netscape's Java VM Electric Fire  which is written on 
C++ with
no problems however I have been using the -fexceptions flag.

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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Amancio Hasty
Yes, it is most likely a DWARF2_UNWIND issue at least that is what I concluded 
in
trying to support Electric Fire also someone should investigate whether egcs 
supports
exception handling without thread support if memory does not fail me egcs 
requires
thread support for exception handling. Perhaps it is a good time to review the 
egcs docs with respect to frame handling and exception handling.

Amancio



  The problem is that egcs 1.1.2 has its own crt*.o files and use them in
  place of the FreeBSD one. By moving the files elsewhere, it works. I don't
  know the effect on exceptions though.
 
 If that is the problem, then it sounds like a DWARF2_UNWIND issue.
  
  I don't know what David plan to do with these crt*.o files. David ?
 
 src/lib/csu/i386-elf will build and install crtbegin.o and crtend.o from
 the EGCS sources.  Otherwise we have to use the poorer exception
 unwinding method.
  
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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Amancio Hasty wrote:

 Yes, it is most likely a DWARF2_UNWIND issue at least that is what I
 concluded in trying to support Electric Fire also someone should
 investigate whether egcs supports exception handling without thread
 support if memory does not fail me egcs requires thread support for
 exception handling. Perhaps it is a good time to review the egcs docs
 with respect to frame handling and exception handling.

How can I tell if I've got thread support enabled?

I've used ksirc before which uses exceptions to parse irc output, and it's
obviously not threaded (cause Qt isn't).  Sure, I don't like ksirc, and I
got some odd perl related errors, but it worked.

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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Steve Price
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, David O'Brien wrote:

# I'm not sure the best way to approach this.  The specification file used
# in the port is different from the one that will be in the base system.
# (the on in the Port is more stock EGCS)  The base system will have many
# more of our hacks.

I don't know what we'd prove if the ports tree was built with an
un-FreeBSD'd egcs.  It might get us close, then again it might get
us chasing (mis)features that aren't going to be present when it
is the system compiler.  I certainly would feel better about using
the real thing.

# So the fix we mentioned might not be needed with the base EGCS.  Maybe
# you can just compile all the ports just to see where we stand.  I don't
# expect *any* problems with ports that use the C compiler.  All the
# problems I think we might have are C++ compiler issues.

See above.  Can you send me a set of instructions for turning gcc
off and egcs on in the base distribution?

-steve

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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
 See above.  Can you send me a set of instructions for turning gcc
 off and egcs on in the base distribution?

Better yet, can we just run with this today instead of tomorrow?  I
see no reason to wait any further, and some of us have more time this
weekend to work on testing things which a Sunday schedule would
collapse to less than half a day.

- Jordan


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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread David O'Brien
 Better yet, can we just run with this today instead of tomorrow?

Can someone with a FAST machine do a CVSup from Freefall and `make world'
to verify that it is not broken?

My machines are either EGCS'ified, 3.1-CURRENT, or take 5 hours to `make
world'.

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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Steve Price
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

# Better yet, can we just run with this today instead of tomorrow?  I
# see no reason to wait any further, and some of us have more time this
# weekend to work on testing things which a Sunday schedule would
# collapse to less than half a day.

You're right, even better yet.  Throw the switch already! :)

-steve



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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Pierre Y. Dampure
David O'Brien wrote:
 
  Better yet, can we just run with this today instead of tomorrow?
 
 Can someone with a FAST machine do a CVSup from Freefall and `make world'
 to verify that it is not broken?
 
 My machines are either EGCS'ified, 3.1-CURRENT, or take 5 hours to `make
 world'.
 
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Just did that... results in roughly 1 hour 1/2, ok? (unless it breaks,
of course).

PYD


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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Steve Price
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, David O'Brien wrote:

#  Better yet, can we just run with this today instead of tomorrow?
# 
# Can someone with a FAST machine do a CVSup from Freefall and `make world'
# to verify that it is not broken?

Doing it now.  Going out to grab a bite to eat with the family
but I should be back before it finishes.  It usually only takes
a little over an hour to do a 'make world' from scratch on my
box at work.  I'll let you know when it gets done.

# My machines are either EGCS'ified, 3.1-CURRENT, or take 5 hours to `make
# world'.
# 
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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Manfred Antar

At 04:28 PM 4/3/99 -0800, David O'Brien wrote:

Better yet, can we just run with this today instead of tomorrow?


Can someone with a FAST machine do a CVSup from Freefall and `make world'
to verify that it is not broken?

My machines are either EGCS'ified, 3.1-CURRENT, or take 5 hours to `make
world'.

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I started a Make world about 1 hour ago with current as of then sources.
It should be done in about 30min's. The only thing is I don't build xntpd
but every thing else is built.
I'll post when completed
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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Pierre Y. Dampure
David O'Brien wrote:
 
 Can someone with a FAST machine do a CVSup from Freefall and `make world'
 to verify that it is not broken?
 
CVSupped from 01:25 BST, make -j12 -DCLOBBER world on an SMP box, both
ELF and aout libraries generated, compile options -02 -m486, all clear.

The word is go.

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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Amancio Hasty
Just finished  doing a cvsup and currently doing a make world. Should be done
in less than 80 minutes .

Cheers,
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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Once you say the word that egcs is the default and a make world will
actually use it, I'll be more than happy to do so immediately with
my dual PII-450 box here.

- Jordan


  Better yet, can we just run with this today instead of tomorrow?
 
 Can someone with a FAST machine do a CVSup from Freefall and `make world'
 to verify that it is not broken?
 
 My machines are either EGCS'ified, 3.1-CURRENT, or take 5 hours to `make
 world'.
 
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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Stephane E. Potvin

-Original Message-
From: David O'Brien obr...@nuxi.com
To: Jordan K. Hubbard j...@zippy.cdrom.com; Steve Price spr...@hiwaay.net
Cc: curr...@freebsd.org curr...@freebsd.org
Date: Saturday, April 03, 1999 19:29
Subject: Re: X problems using egcs as compiler


 Better yet, can we just run with this today instead of tomorrow?

Can someone with a FAST machine do a CVSup from Freefall and `make world'
to verify that it is not broken?

My machines are either EGCS'ified, 3.1-CURRENT, or take 5 hours to `make
world'.


Done.
cvsupped at 19:48 EST from cvsup2.freebsd.org
buildworld with stock make.conf just finished without any problems.

I'd say go for it :)

Steph

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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Bob Bishop
At 4:28 pm -0800 3/4/99, David O'Brien wrote:
Can someone with a FAST machine do a CVSup from Freefall and `make world'
to verify that it is not broken?

 elf make world completed on Sun Apr  4 03:07:53 BST 1999

cvsup'd (from the UK server) at Sun Apr  4 01:50:56 BST 1999


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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Amancio Hasty
cvsup around 17:30 PST

--
 elf make world started on Sat Apr  3 17:33:29 PST 1999
--

--
 elf make world completed on Sat Apr  3 18:33:39 PST 1999
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Re: X problems using egcs as compiler

1999-04-03 Thread Kris Kennaway
Only thing I can see to note is that the cvs mailing lists are still
apparently down, so notification of this (and any other changes which take
place) won't go out to the interested listeners. If jmb is planning to re-send
all of the bounced email when he fixes the problem, that's okay.

Kris

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