dmesg submission service -- please submit today

2018-10-20 Thread Edward Sanford Sutton, III
  Thank you for asking; I used the one-liner in hopes that it helps. I
presume the same areas can be used from a release/stable/current boot
media to gather it from another machine not running FreeBSD presently
but will be a likely future goal so will try to get it submitted too.
  I would appreciate seeing this as an option or request on installs and
think it could make a good reminder in the output when binary updating
or source rebuilding or in the UPDATING file (I'm more likely to check
there than in the handbook). Adding it to normal dmesg output or a login
message would seem too bloated and likely to be removed or ignored.
  If something is planned for removal, documenting it and mentioning it
in output when it is loaded both could help spread awareness. If needing
feedback from those users, it could make it clear it is considered for
removal so that people who need to speak up about being a user have a
chance to be heard then too.
  freebsd.org hosting it would lead to more trust and easy control of a
command sequence to generate it with options, review contents, then
submit it would get more feedback.
  Anyways, I'm not a regular to this list and I only found out as I was
browsing through release+stable+current mailings, PRs, changes, and
patches under review for my issue of processes getting stuck in the
pfault state (as listed by top) when I get down to about 140M free of
32G until more and more processes lock up. Power button set for shutdown
usually eventually gives one after it begins killing things due to
timeouts being reached. Though I have had some luck with patches
improving how long until I can expect a needed action be taken, I've
decided 11.2 is not stable enough for use so will likely go to 12-stable
with hopes of changes I have not yet tested. I got rid of my last 10M
adapter last year when I ran across it as any reason I may reach for it
would be a painful experience to not just replace it.
Thank you and good luck on a smooth cleanup,
Edward Sanford Sutton, III
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Re: dmesg submission service -- please submit today

2018-10-08 Thread Dhananjay Balan
On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 08:21:46AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> 

> Oh right. There's a known bug I should have mentioned: If your uname doesn't
> have a '#' in it, the script will reject it. You can add #0+ after the ALPHA8
> and before the r339174 and it will work. I've reported this to the dmesg 
> guys. 

Thanks, I have submitted them.
> 
> Warner
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Re: dmesg submission service -- please submit today

2018-10-08 Thread Pete Wright



On 10/8/18 12:35 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote:

I just submitted /var/run/dmesg.boot from my current NetBSD and from FreeBSD 
11.1-STABLE.

I was surprised to see some other BSD OSes listed, including 5 dmesg reports 
from Bitrig and 3 from RetroBSD.

I had been tracking three bitrig trees from https://github.com/bitrig : bitrig, 
bitrig-xenocara and bitrig-ports , noticed no activity at all since December 
2016 or January 2017: dead OS.
there are lots of gems in dmesgd.nycbug.org.  we put it up in 2004 or 
(earlier IIRC) - i know i've put posted some hardware in there that i 
wish i still had :)


-pete

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Re: dmesg submission service -- please submit today

2018-10-08 Thread Warner Losh
On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 1:37 AM Thomas Mueller  wrote:

> I just submitted /var/run/dmesg.boot from my current NetBSD and from
> FreeBSD 11.1-STABLE.
>
> I was surprised to see some other BSD OSes listed, including 5 dmesg
> reports from Bitrig and 3 from RetroBSD.
>
> I had been tracking three bitrig trees from https://github.com/bitrig :
> bitrig, bitrig-xenocara and bitrig-ports , noticed no activity at all since
> December 2016 or January 2017: dead OS.
>

RetroBSD has a similar fate: there's been 4 commits total since 2016.

Warner
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Re: dmesg submission service -- please submit today

2018-10-08 Thread Thomas Mueller
I just submitted /var/run/dmesg.boot from my current NetBSD and from FreeBSD 
11.1-STABLE.

I was surprised to see some other BSD OSes listed, including 5 dmesg reports 
from Bitrig and 3 from RetroBSD.

I had been tracking three bitrig trees from https://github.com/bitrig : bitrig, 
bitrig-xenocara and bitrig-ports , noticed no activity at all since December 
2016 or January 2017: dead OS.

Tom

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Re: dmesg submission service -- please submit today

2018-10-07 Thread Warner Losh
On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 3:49 AM Konstantin Belousov 
wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 11:40:36PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 12:48 PM Warner Losh  wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > As you can tell, the project is looking to clear some of the deadwood
> from
> > > its driver lists. One problem is that we have to guess what's in used
> based
> > > on our personal experience. This has proven to be less reliable than
> hoped
> > > in the 10/100 discussions that are going on now.
> > >
> > > So, to that end, I'd like to request as many people as possible submit
> > > their current dmesg to the service at
> http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi
> > > so that we have a better basis for future preliminary lists of drivers
> for
> > > other parts of the tree. Please take the time to make these submissions
> > > regardless of what your current hardware is. Please submit for any
> machine
> > > you'd like to upgrade to FreeBSD 12 or 13. Identifying information is
> > > generally masked out.
> > >
> > > This is just a request by me. I'll be using the data in about a month
> to
> > > look at old parallel scsi driver use. Though not definitive, it will be
> > > suggestive of what's in use. The data is currently a bit thin, so I
> thought
> > > I'd see what a message like this could do to improve that situation.
> This
> > > should be viewed as a personal suggestion right now...
> > >
> > > Warner
> > >
> > > P.S. I know there's other user generated data sites out there, but this
> > > appears to be the only one that's actually still working.
> > >
> >
> > This one-liner works to submit, though you'll need to change username,
> > email and maybe tweak the description if your system doesn't have decent
> > smbios entries. It's also x86 centric, since other systems won't have
> this
> > information as readily available.
> >
> > curl -v -d "nickname=$USER" -d "email=$USER@$(hostname)" -d
> > "description=FreeBSD/$(uname -m) on $(kenv smbios.system.maker) $(kenv
> > smbios.system.product)" -d "do=addd" --data-urlencode
> > 'dmesg@/var/run/dmesg.boot'
> > http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi
>
> FWIW, on my NUC smbios part looks like this:
> nuc% kenv | grep smbios.system\|smbios.planar
>~
> smbios.planar.location="To be filled by O.E.M."
> smbios.planar.maker="Intel Corporation"
> smbios.planar.product="NUC5CPYB"
> smbios.planar.serial="GEPY645001G0"
> smbios.planar.tag=" "
> smbios.planar.version="H61145-407"
> smbios.system.family=" "
> smbios.system.maker=" "
> smbios.system.product=" "
> smbios.system.serial=" "
> smbios.system.sku=" "
> smbios.system.uuid="96091100-727a-11e3-b004-f44d30670aa1"
> smbios.system.version=" "
>

Yes. It seems that some systems have it in planar, and others in system. I
suspect we'll need a simple shell script to do this (The perl one I was
given simply doesn't work even though it says it does).

Warner
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Re: dmesg submission service -- please submit today

2018-10-07 Thread Warner Losh
On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 2:16 AM Dhananjay Balan  wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 11:40:36PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 12:48 PM Warner Losh  wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > As you can tell, the project is looking to clear some of the deadwood
> from
> > > its driver lists. One problem is that we have to guess what's in used
> based
> > > on our personal experience. This has proven to be less reliable than
> hoped
> > > in the 10/100 discussions that are going on now.
> > >
> > > So, to that end, I'd like to request as many people as possible submit
> > > their current dmesg to the service at
> http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi
> > > so that we have a better basis for future preliminary lists of drivers
> for
> > > other parts of the tree. Please take the time to make these submissions
> > > regardless of what your current hardware is. Please submit for any
> machine
> > > you'd like to upgrade to FreeBSD 12 or 13. Identifying information is
> > > generally masked out.
> > >
> > > This is just a request by me. I'll be using the data in about a month
> to
> > > look at old parallel scsi driver use. Though not definitive, it will be
> > > suggestive of what's in use. The data is currently a bit thin, so I
> thought
> > > I'd see what a message like this could do to improve that situation.
> This
> > > should be viewed as a personal suggestion right now...
> > >
> > > Warner
> > >
> > > P.S. I know there's other user generated data sites out there, but this
> > > appears to be the only one that's actually still working.
> > >
> >
> > This one-liner works to submit, though you'll need to change username,
> > email and maybe tweak the description if your system doesn't have decent
> > smbios entries. It's also x86 centric, since other systems won't have
> this
> > information as readily available.
> >
> > curl -v -d "nickname=$USER" -d "email=$USER@$(hostname)" -d
> > "description=FreeBSD/$(uname -m) on $(kenv smbios.system.maker) $(kenv
> > smbios.system.product)" -d "do=addd" --data-urlencode
> > 'dmesg@/var/run/dmesg.boot'
> > http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi
>
> When I try to submit (with the oneliner or web form), it fails with
>  "Sorry, this is an unsupported OS. If you feel it should be added, please
> contact admin."
>
> dmesg is from FreeBSD 12.0-ALPHA8 r339174=b24b22909(master).
>

Oh right. There's a known bug I should have mentioned: If your uname
doesn't have a '#' in it, the script will reject it. You can add #0+ after
the ALPHA8 and before the r339174 and it will work. I've reported this to
the dmesg guys.

Warner
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Re: dmesg submission service -- please submit today

2018-10-07 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 11:40:36PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 12:48 PM Warner Losh  wrote:
> 
> > Greetings,
> >
> > As you can tell, the project is looking to clear some of the deadwood from
> > its driver lists. One problem is that we have to guess what's in used based
> > on our personal experience. This has proven to be less reliable than hoped
> > in the 10/100 discussions that are going on now.
> >
> > So, to that end, I'd like to request as many people as possible submit
> > their current dmesg to the service at http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi
> > so that we have a better basis for future preliminary lists of drivers for
> > other parts of the tree. Please take the time to make these submissions
> > regardless of what your current hardware is. Please submit for any machine
> > you'd like to upgrade to FreeBSD 12 or 13. Identifying information is
> > generally masked out.
> >
> > This is just a request by me. I'll be using the data in about a month to
> > look at old parallel scsi driver use. Though not definitive, it will be
> > suggestive of what's in use. The data is currently a bit thin, so I thought
> > I'd see what a message like this could do to improve that situation. This
> > should be viewed as a personal suggestion right now...
> >
> > Warner
> >
> > P.S. I know there's other user generated data sites out there, but this
> > appears to be the only one that's actually still working.
> >
> 
> This one-liner works to submit, though you'll need to change username,
> email and maybe tweak the description if your system doesn't have decent
> smbios entries. It's also x86 centric, since other systems won't have this
> information as readily available.
> 
> curl -v -d "nickname=$USER" -d "email=$USER@$(hostname)" -d
> "description=FreeBSD/$(uname -m) on $(kenv smbios.system.maker) $(kenv
> smbios.system.product)" -d "do=addd" --data-urlencode
> 'dmesg@/var/run/dmesg.boot'
> http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi

FWIW, on my NUC smbios part looks like this:
nuc% kenv | grep smbios.system\|smbios.planar ~
smbios.planar.location="To be filled by O.E.M."
smbios.planar.maker="Intel Corporation"
smbios.planar.product="NUC5CPYB"
smbios.planar.serial="GEPY645001G0"
smbios.planar.tag=" "
smbios.planar.version="H61145-407"
smbios.system.family=" "
smbios.system.maker=" "
smbios.system.product=" "
smbios.system.serial=" "
smbios.system.sku=" "
smbios.system.uuid="96091100-727a-11e3-b004-f44d30670aa1"
smbios.system.version=" "
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Re: dmesg submission service -- please submit today

2018-10-07 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 12:48:25 -0600
Warner Losh  wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> As you can tell, the project is looking to clear some of the deadwood from
> its driver lists. One problem is that we have to guess what's in used based
> on our personal experience. This has proven to be less reliable than hoped
> in the 10/100 discussions that are going on now.
> 
> So, to that end, I'd like to request as many people as possible submit
> their current dmesg to the service at http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi so
> that we have a better basis for future preliminary lists of drivers for
> other parts of the tree. Please take the time to make these submissions
> regardless of what your current hardware is. Please submit for any machine
> you'd like to upgrade to FreeBSD 12 or 13. Identifying information is
> generally masked out.
> 

Verbose or normal?  Or doesn't it matter?

[snip]

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Re: dmesg submission service -- please submit today

2018-10-07 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 23:40:36 -0600
Warner Losh  wrote:

[snip original post]

> This one-liner works to submit, though you'll need to change username,
> email and maybe tweak the description if your system doesn't have decent
> smbios entries. It's also x86 centric, since other systems won't have this
> information as readily available.
> 
> curl -v -d "nickname=$USER" -d "email=$USER@$(hostname)" -d
> "description=FreeBSD/$(uname -m) on $(kenv smbios.system.maker) $(kenv
> smbios.system.product)" -d "do=addd" --data-urlencode
> 'dmesg@/var/run/dmesg.boot'
> http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi
> 

On my system I would have to use smbios.planar.maker and
smbios.planar.product because the corresponding smbios.system values
are not filled in.  Just a heads up for other users.

This should be easy enough to check, since kenv will dump all its
values, which allows a user to check what is really set.

> Hope helps facilitate submission of entries.  Thanks to Charles Sprickman
> for the idea of using a curl one-liner.
> 

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Re: dmesg submission service -- please submit today

2018-10-07 Thread Thomas Mueller
I can submit a dmesg even if I'm in NetBSD at the time: mount the FreeBSD 
partition and get the latest /mount-point/var/run/dmesg.boot .

Question is what about those devices that don't work in FreeBSD but work in 
NetBSD, or which work in neither FreeBSD nor NetBSD?  I'm thinking of re, where 
one Ethernet works in NetBSD but not FreeBSD.  Also, wireless rsu and athn.  
Maybe I can also think of others.

I noticed a lot of SCSI cards listed in GENERIC, but most these have gone out 
of production long ago as USB and SATA have taken over.

Tom

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Re: dmesg submission service -- please submit today

2018-10-07 Thread Dhananjay Balan
On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 11:40:36PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 12:48 PM Warner Losh  wrote:
> 
> > Greetings,
> >
> > As you can tell, the project is looking to clear some of the deadwood from
> > its driver lists. One problem is that we have to guess what's in used based
> > on our personal experience. This has proven to be less reliable than hoped
> > in the 10/100 discussions that are going on now.
> >
> > So, to that end, I'd like to request as many people as possible submit
> > their current dmesg to the service at http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi
> > so that we have a better basis for future preliminary lists of drivers for
> > other parts of the tree. Please take the time to make these submissions
> > regardless of what your current hardware is. Please submit for any machine
> > you'd like to upgrade to FreeBSD 12 or 13. Identifying information is
> > generally masked out.
> >
> > This is just a request by me. I'll be using the data in about a month to
> > look at old parallel scsi driver use. Though not definitive, it will be
> > suggestive of what's in use. The data is currently a bit thin, so I thought
> > I'd see what a message like this could do to improve that situation. This
> > should be viewed as a personal suggestion right now...
> >
> > Warner
> >
> > P.S. I know there's other user generated data sites out there, but this
> > appears to be the only one that's actually still working.
> >
> 
> This one-liner works to submit, though you'll need to change username,
> email and maybe tweak the description if your system doesn't have decent
> smbios entries. It's also x86 centric, since other systems won't have this
> information as readily available.
> 
> curl -v -d "nickname=$USER" -d "email=$USER@$(hostname)" -d
> "description=FreeBSD/$(uname -m) on $(kenv smbios.system.maker) $(kenv
> smbios.system.product)" -d "do=addd" --data-urlencode
> 'dmesg@/var/run/dmesg.boot'
> http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi

When I try to submit (with the oneliner or web form), it fails with 
 "Sorry, this is an unsupported OS. If you feel it should be added, please 
contact admin."

dmesg is from FreeBSD 12.0-ALPHA8 r339174=b24b22909(master).

> 
> Hope helps facilitate submission of entries.  Thanks to Charles Sprickman
> for the idea of using a curl one-liner.
> 
> Warner
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Re: dmesg submission service -- please submit today

2018-10-07 Thread Warner Losh
On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 12:48 PM Warner Losh  wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> As you can tell, the project is looking to clear some of the deadwood from
> its driver lists. One problem is that we have to guess what's in used based
> on our personal experience. This has proven to be less reliable than hoped
> in the 10/100 discussions that are going on now.
>
> So, to that end, I'd like to request as many people as possible submit
> their current dmesg to the service at http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi
> so that we have a better basis for future preliminary lists of drivers for
> other parts of the tree. Please take the time to make these submissions
> regardless of what your current hardware is. Please submit for any machine
> you'd like to upgrade to FreeBSD 12 or 13. Identifying information is
> generally masked out.
>
> This is just a request by me. I'll be using the data in about a month to
> look at old parallel scsi driver use. Though not definitive, it will be
> suggestive of what's in use. The data is currently a bit thin, so I thought
> I'd see what a message like this could do to improve that situation. This
> should be viewed as a personal suggestion right now...
>
> Warner
>
> P.S. I know there's other user generated data sites out there, but this
> appears to be the only one that's actually still working.
>

This one-liner works to submit, though you'll need to change username,
email and maybe tweak the description if your system doesn't have decent
smbios entries. It's also x86 centric, since other systems won't have this
information as readily available.

curl -v -d "nickname=$USER" -d "email=$USER@$(hostname)" -d
"description=FreeBSD/$(uname -m) on $(kenv smbios.system.maker) $(kenv
smbios.system.product)" -d "do=addd" --data-urlencode
'dmesg@/var/run/dmesg.boot'
http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi

Hope helps facilitate submission of entries.  Thanks to Charles Sprickman
for the idea of using a curl one-liner.

Warner
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dmesg submission service -- please submit today

2018-10-06 Thread Warner Losh
Greetings,

As you can tell, the project is looking to clear some of the deadwood from
its driver lists. One problem is that we have to guess what's in used based
on our personal experience. This has proven to be less reliable than hoped
in the 10/100 discussions that are going on now.

So, to that end, I'd like to request as many people as possible submit
their current dmesg to the service at http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi so
that we have a better basis for future preliminary lists of drivers for
other parts of the tree. Please take the time to make these submissions
regardless of what your current hardware is. Please submit for any machine
you'd like to upgrade to FreeBSD 12 or 13. Identifying information is
generally masked out.

This is just a request by me. I'll be using the data in about a month to
look at old parallel scsi driver use. Though not definitive, it will be
suggestive of what's in use. The data is currently a bit thin, so I thought
I'd see what a message like this could do to improve that situation. This
should be viewed as a personal suggestion right now...

Warner

P.S. I know there's other user generated data sites out there, but this
appears to be the only one that's actually still working.
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