Re: Source code of SGI XFS

1999-05-22 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Mike Smith wrote ...
  Pavel Narozhniy wrote:
  
Does anybody heard about SGI releasing XFS source code?
  
  Yup, they're doing it.
  
  I would guess that FreeBSD would need a fairly thorough revamp of its
  handling of kernel memory allocation before XFS would be fully usable,
  though:  XFS buffer management is pretty full-on.
 
 Read Irix has shitty block I/O support so XFS has to do it all itself.
 
  The filesystem maintains its own pool of kernel buffers separate from
  the VM page cache which it uses for aggregating I/O transfers (so that
  if, say, you make 5 separate out-of-order I/Os which just happen to
  blanket a contiguous region of a disk object, XFS will collapse them
  into a single I/O;
 
 We do this too; it's called I/O clustering, but it's done below the 
 filesystem so that anyone and everyone can benefit from it.

The most interesting thing of XFS is it's GRIO I'd say.


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Re: Source code of SGI XFS

1999-05-21 Thread Mark Newton
Pavel Narozhniy wrote:

  Does anybody heard about SGI releasing XFS source code?

Yup, they're doing it.

I would guess that FreeBSD would need a fairly thorough revamp of its
handling of kernel memory allocation before XFS would be fully usable,
though:  XFS buffer management is pretty full-on.

The filesystem maintains its own pool of kernel buffers separate from
the VM page cache which it uses for aggregating I/O transfers (so that
if, say, you make 5 separate out-of-order I/Os which just happen to
blanket a contiguous region of a disk object, XFS will collapse them
into a single I/O; it'll also take small contiguous regions (extents)
and remap them into the next-power-of-two extent size as they grow.

I know I could probably see by looking at the source, but does FreeBSD
still impose a 64k limit on physical I/O operations?  That'll have
to go too...

   - mark


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Re: Source code of SGI XFS

1999-05-21 Thread Mike Smith
 Pavel Narozhniy wrote:
 
   Does anybody heard about SGI releasing XFS source code?
 
 Yup, they're doing it.
 
 I would guess that FreeBSD would need a fairly thorough revamp of its
 handling of kernel memory allocation before XFS would be fully usable,
 though:  XFS buffer management is pretty full-on.

Read Irix has shitty block I/O support so XFS has to do it all itself.

 The filesystem maintains its own pool of kernel buffers separate from
 the VM page cache which it uses for aggregating I/O transfers (so that
 if, say, you make 5 separate out-of-order I/Os which just happen to
 blanket a contiguous region of a disk object, XFS will collapse them
 into a single I/O;

We do this too; it's called I/O clustering, but it's done below the 
filesystem so that anyone and everyone can benefit from it.

 it'll also take small contiguous regions (extents)
 and remap them into the next-power-of-two extent size as they grow.

Whatever that means. 8)

 I know I could probably see by looking at the source, but does FreeBSD
 still impose a 64k limit on physical I/O operations?  That'll have
 to go too...

Nominally.  We ought to be able to support fragmentation as required to 
support the underlying device, but it's not complete yet.  The fixes 
are relatively trivial.

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Re: Source code of SGI XFS

1999-05-21 Thread Julian Elischer


On Sat, 22 May 1999, Mark Newton wrote:

 Pavel Narozhniy wrote:
 
   Does anybody heard about SGI releasing XFS source code?
 
 Yup, they're doing it.
 
 I would guess that FreeBSD would need a fairly thorough revamp of its
 handling of kernel memory allocation before XFS would be fully usable,
 though:  XFS buffer management is pretty full-on.
 
 The filesystem maintains its own pool of kernel buffers separate from
 the VM page cache which it uses for aggregating I/O transfers (so that
 if, say, you make 5 separate out-of-order I/Os which just happen to
 blanket a contiguous region of a disk object, XFS will collapse them
 into a single I/O;

uh, we already do that don't we?

 it'll also take small contiguous regions (extents)
 and remap them into the next-power-of-two extent size as they grow.

we do this for growing frags too.

 
 I know I could probably see by looking at the source, but does FreeBSD
 still impose a 64k limit on physical I/O operations?  That'll have
 to go too...
 
- mark
 
 
 Mark Newton   Email:  new...@internode.com.au (W)
 Network Engineer  Email:  new...@atdot.dotat.org  (H)
 Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk:   +61-8-82232999
 Network Man - Anagram of Mark Newton  Mobile: +61-416-202-223
 
 
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