Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-12 Thread Daniel O'Connor


On 10-Sep-99 Vince Vielhaber wrote:
  It claims to do IMAP4, but it just fetches all messages from the server
  (and by default deleting it from the server). There are very few good IMAP4
  clients out there :-(
  
  xfmail?  Doesn't do that here and I use it daily for all of my internal
  stuff.

No.. I meant that XFMail worked properly, but Pine didn't.
 
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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-12 Thread Daniel O'Connor

On 10-Sep-99 Vince Vielhaber wrote:
  It claims to do IMAP4, but it just fetches all messages from the server
  (and by default deleting it from the server). There are very few good IMAP4
  clients out there :-(
  
  xfmail?  Doesn't do that here and I use it daily for all of my internal
  stuff.

No.. I meant that XFMail worked properly, but Pine didn't.
 
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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Amancio Hasty


I would start by using a java gui tool to design the look and feel 
of the xmailer and allow the application to load java classes
or lets call them plug-ins. There is lots of stuff available 
for java including good design patterns and methodologies.

Once the overall design is completed then translate it to X and C++. 
There is at least one decent  C++ tookit which is free that I know of :


ftp://ftp.x.org:/contrib/libraries/Cvo.1.0.1a.README

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Vince Vielhaber

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Lutz Albers wrote:

 --On Freitag, 10. September 1999, 10:56 +0930 Daniel O'Connor
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  On 09-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote:
   VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
   versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
   better.  (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16, from the dark ages...)
  
  Does it do IMAP? I have only seen *1* emailer which does IMAP properly
  (xfmail) all the others either don't support it at all, or treat IMAP
  like POP (ie just fetch mail from INBOX).
 
 It claims to do IMAP4, but it just fetches all messages from the server
 (and by default deleting it from the server). There are very few good IMAP4
 clients out there :-(

xfmail?  Doesn't do that here and I use it daily for all of my internal
stuff.

Vince.
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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Jamie Bowden

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote:

:Does it do IMAP? I have only seen *1* emailer which does IMAP properly (xfmail)
:all the others either don't support it at all, or treat IMAP like POP (ie just
:fetch mail from INBOX).

Pine does IMAP just fine.  I used to use it to read mail on box a, with
incoming accessd via box b, and storage on box c.  Now I just forward
everything to one account and procmail it all.

Jamie Bowden

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel J. O'Connor


On 10-Sep-99 Jamie Bowden wrote:
 :fetch mail from INBOX).
  Pine does IMAP just fine.  I used to use it to read mail on box a, with
  incoming accessd via box b, and storage on box c.  Now I just forward
  everything to one account and procmail it all.

Umm.. welll I'd like to know to enable sub folder support in it then..
Haveing multiple accounts on different machines would be nice too (then it
could do what xfmail can)

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel J. O'Connor


On 10-Sep-99 Jamie Bowden wrote:
 :Umm.. welll I'd like to know to enable sub folder support in it then..
 :Haveing multiple accounts on different machines would be nice too (then it
 :could do what xfmail can)
  In 'Incoming Folders' type 'a' and it will ask you for the server name to
  add.

I don't have an 'Incoming Folders' if I press A in 'Folder List' I get a
request for a folder name not a server name..

I'm about to try Pine 4.10 (I have 4.05)

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Vince Vielhaber


On 10-Sep-99 Daniel J. O'Connor wrote:
 
 On 10-Sep-99 Jamie Bowden wrote:
 :Umm.. welll I'd like to know to enable sub folder support in it then..
 :Haveing multiple accounts on different machines would be nice too (then it
 :could do what xfmail can)
  In 'Incoming Folders' type 'a' and it will ask you for the server name to
  add.
 
 I don't have an 'Incoming Folders' if I press A in 'Folder List' I get a
 request for a folder name not a server name..
 
 I'm about to try Pine 4.10 (I have 4.05)

You'll need to enable incoming folders in the setup from the main menu.

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RE: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread John Baldwin


On 09-Sep-99 Andrew Reilly wrote:
 XFMail isn't acceptable, because I've got 130M of mbox mail
 boxes in a deep directory hierarchy, and I'd like to keep them
 that way.  The last time I looked at XFMail it insisted on an
 un-nested mh-directory style of mailbox.  Is it still the case?

It supports both mbox and mh mailboxes now.

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Lutz Albers
--On Freitag, 10. September 1999, 10:56 +0930 Daniel O'Connor
docon...@gsoft.com.au wrote:

 
 On 09-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote:
  VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
  versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
  better.  (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16, from the dark ages...)
 
 Does it do IMAP? I have only seen *1* emailer which does IMAP properly
 (xfmail) all the others either don't support it at all, or treat IMAP
 like POP (ie just fetch mail from INBOX).

It claims to do IMAP4, but it just fetches all messages from the server
(and by default deleting it from the server). There are very few good IMAP4
clients out there :-(

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Amancio Hasty

I would start by using a java gui tool to design the look and feel 
of the xmailer and allow the application to load java classes
or lets call them plug-ins. There is lots of stuff available 
for java including good design patterns and methodologies.

Once the overall design is completed then translate it to X and C++. 
There is at least one decent  C++ tookit which is free that I know of :


ftp://ftp.x.org:/contrib/libraries/Cvo.1.0.1a.README

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Lutz Albers wrote:

 --On Freitag, 10. September 1999, 10:56 +0930 Daniel O'Connor
 docon...@gsoft.com.au wrote:
 
  
  On 09-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote:
   VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
   versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
   better.  (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16, from the dark ages...)
  
  Does it do IMAP? I have only seen *1* emailer which does IMAP properly
  (xfmail) all the others either don't support it at all, or treat IMAP
  like POP (ie just fetch mail from INBOX).
 
 It claims to do IMAP4, but it just fetches all messages from the server
 (and by default deleting it from the server). There are very few good IMAP4
 clients out there :-(

xfmail?  Doesn't do that here and I use it daily for all of my internal
stuff.

Vince.
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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Jamie Bowden
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote:

:Does it do IMAP? I have only seen *1* emailer which does IMAP properly (xfmail)
:all the others either don't support it at all, or treat IMAP like POP (ie just
:fetch mail from INBOX).

Pine does IMAP just fine.  I used to use it to read mail on box a, with
incoming accessd via box b, and storage on box c.  Now I just forward
everything to one account and procmail it all.

Jamie Bowden

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel J. O'Connor

On 10-Sep-99 Jamie Bowden wrote:
 :fetch mail from INBOX).
  Pine does IMAP just fine.  I used to use it to read mail on box a, with
  incoming accessd via box b, and storage on box c.  Now I just forward
  everything to one account and procmail it all.

Umm.. welll I'd like to know to enable sub folder support in it then..
Haveing multiple accounts on different machines would be nice too (then it
could do what xfmail can)

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Jamie Bowden
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Daniel J. O'Connor wrote:

:
:On 10-Sep-99 Jamie Bowden wrote:
: :fetch mail from INBOX).
:  Pine does IMAP just fine.  I used to use it to read mail on box a, with
:  incoming accessd via box b, and storage on box c.  Now I just forward
:  everything to one account and procmail it all.
:
:Umm.. welll I'd like to know to enable sub folder support in it then..
:Haveing multiple accounts on different machines would be nice too (then it
:could do what xfmail can)

In 'Incoming Folders' type 'a' and it will ask you for the server name to
add.

Jamie Bowden

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel J. O'Connor

On 10-Sep-99 Jamie Bowden wrote:
 :Umm.. welll I'd like to know to enable sub folder support in it then..
 :Haveing multiple accounts on different machines would be nice too (then it
 :could do what xfmail can)
  In 'Incoming Folders' type 'a' and it will ask you for the server name to
  add.

I don't have an 'Incoming Folders' if I press A in 'Folder List' I get a
request for a folder name not a server name..

I'm about to try Pine 4.10 (I have 4.05)

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Vince Vielhaber

On 10-Sep-99 Daniel J. O'Connor wrote:
 
 On 10-Sep-99 Jamie Bowden wrote:
 :Umm.. welll I'd like to know to enable sub folder support in it then..
 :Haveing multiple accounts on different machines would be nice too (then it
 :could do what xfmail can)
  In 'Incoming Folders' type 'a' and it will ask you for the server name to
  add.
 
 I don't have an 'Incoming Folders' if I press A in 'Folder List' I get a
 request for a folder name not a server name..
 
 I'm about to try Pine 4.10 (I have 4.05)

You'll need to enable incoming folders in the setup from the main menu.

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RE: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread John Baldwin

On 09-Sep-99 Andrew Reilly wrote:
 XFMail isn't acceptable, because I've got 130M of mbox mail
 boxes in a deep directory hierarchy, and I'd like to keep them
 that way.  The last time I looked at XFMail it insisted on an
 un-nested mh-directory style of mailbox.  Is it still the case?

It supports both mbox and mh mailboxes now.

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread Nate Williams

   VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
   versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
   better.  (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16, from the dark ages...)
 
 Does it do IMAP?

It doesn't even do POP, I use fetchmail/procmailrc to get my email,
which works *MUCH* better than anything else I've found.



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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor


On 10-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote:
  Does it do IMAP?
  It doesn't even do POP, I use fetchmail/procmailrc to get my email,
  which works *MUCH* better than anything else I've found.

Woe is me.

Oh well.. back to xfmail :)

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor


On 09-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote:
  VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
  versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
  better.  (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16, from the dark ages...)

Does it do IMAP? I have only seen *1* emailer which does IMAP properly (xfmail)
all the others either don't support it at all, or treat IMAP like POP (ie just
fetch mail from INBOX).

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread David Scheidt

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote:

 
 Does it do IMAP? I have only seen *1* emailer which does IMAP properly (xfmail)
 all the others either don't support it at all, or treat IMAP like POP (ie just
 fetch mail from INBOX).

Netscape does, actually.  I set up a friend's computer to do this, over an
ssh-forwarded local port, even.  It all more less "Just worked".  On a win98
box, even.  shudder.

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor


On 10-Sep-99 David Scheidt wrote:
  fetch mail from INBOX).
  Netscape does, actually.  I set up a friend's computer to do this, over an
  ssh-forwarded local port, even.  It all more less "Just worked".  On a win98
  box, even.  shudder.

Yeah, I forgot to mention Netscape.. OK no mailer with a memory footprint
smaller than 20 meg BESIDES xfmail does IMAP :)

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread Florent Parent

Nate Williams writes:
 VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
 versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
 better.  (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16, from the dark ages...)
   
   Does it do IMAP?
  
  It doesn't even do POP, I use fetchmail/procmailrc to get my email,
  which works *MUCH* better than anything else I've found.
  

I'm using VM 6.71/Xemacs under FreeBSD and NT and it supports POP3 but 
not IMAP (http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~smikes/emacs/vm-faq.html)

I've been trying different MUAs that would allow me to read my mail
under FreeBSD and NT (dual boot laptop) while sharing the same mail
folders (shared DOS partition).  So far, only VM/Xemacs allowed me to
do that. Even Netscape FreeBSD/NT use different mechanisms to build
its "folder summaries" :(

Unfortunalty, VM is a memory hog when your mail files starts to grow.

I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a similar config. (i guess
this should go in the freebsd-questions list?)

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor


On 10-Sep-99 Florent Parent wrote:
  I've been trying different MUAs that would allow me to read my mail
  under FreeBSD and NT (dual boot laptop) while sharing the same mail
  folders (shared DOS partition).  So far, only VM/Xemacs allowed me to
  do that. Even Netscape FreeBSD/NT use different mechanisms to build
  its "folder summaries" :(
  I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a similar config. (i guess

I have Cyrus IMAP on my server box and my workstation dual boots freebsd/win95
so I use xfmail under freebsd and netscape under windows and it works fine :)

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread David Scheidt

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote:

 
 On 10-Sep-99 Florent Parent wrote:
   I've been trying different MUAs that would allow me to read my mail
   under FreeBSD and NT (dual boot laptop) while sharing the same mail
   folders (shared DOS partition).  So far, only VM/Xemacs allowed me to
   do that. Even Netscape FreeBSD/NT use different mechanisms to build
   its "folder summaries" :(
   I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a similar config. (i guess
 
 I have Cyrus IMAP on my server box and my workstation dual boots freebsd/win95
 so I use xfmail under freebsd and netscape under windows and it works fine :)
 
This was what I was going to suggest.  If you are lucky, you might be able
to find an NT imap server that will get along with sharing the folders with
a FreeBSD one, so you can keep everything local.  I haven't looked, because
I don't do windows, except underdress, and never on hardware I own.  I don't
even have a license of MS-DOS.

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread Lutz Albers

--On Freitag, 10. September 1999, 10:56 +0930 Daniel O'Connor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On 09-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote:
  VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
  versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
  better.  (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16, from the dark ages...)
 
 Does it do IMAP? I have only seen *1* emailer which does IMAP properly
 (xfmail) all the others either don't support it at all, or treat IMAP
 like POP (ie just fetch mail from INBOX).

It claims to do IMAP4, but it just fetches all messages from the server
(and by default deleting it from the server). There are very few good IMAP4
clients out there :-(

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread Nate Williams
   VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
   versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
   better.  (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16, from the dark ages...)
 
 Does it do IMAP?

It doesn't even do POP, I use fetchmail/procmailrc to get my email,
which works *MUCH* better than anything else I've found.



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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor

On 10-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote:
  Does it do IMAP?
  It doesn't even do POP, I use fetchmail/procmailrc to get my email,
  which works *MUCH* better than anything else I've found.

Woe is me.

Oh well.. back to xfmail :)

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor

On 09-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote:
  VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
  versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
  better.  (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16, from the dark ages...)

Does it do IMAP? I have only seen *1* emailer which does IMAP properly (xfmail)
all the others either don't support it at all, or treat IMAP like POP (ie just
fetch mail from INBOX).

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread David Scheidt
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote:

 
 Does it do IMAP? I have only seen *1* emailer which does IMAP properly 
 (xfmail)
 all the others either don't support it at all, or treat IMAP like POP (ie just
 fetch mail from INBOX).

Netscape does, actually.  I set up a friend's computer to do this, over an
ssh-forwarded local port, even.  It all more less Just worked.  On a win98
box, even.  shudder.

David Scheidt



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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor

On 10-Sep-99 David Scheidt wrote:
  fetch mail from INBOX).
  Netscape does, actually.  I set up a friend's computer to do this, over an
  ssh-forwarded local port, even.  It all more less Just worked.  On a win98
  box, even.  shudder.

Yeah, I forgot to mention Netscape.. OK no mailer with a memory footprint
smaller than 20 meg BESIDES xfmail does IMAP :)

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread Florent Parent
Nate Williams writes:
 VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later
 versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things
 better.  (I'm still using XEmacs 19.16, from the dark ages...)
   
   Does it do IMAP?
  
  It doesn't even do POP, I use fetchmail/procmailrc to get my email,
  which works *MUCH* better than anything else I've found.
  

I'm using VM 6.71/Xemacs under FreeBSD and NT and it supports POP3 but 
not IMAP (http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~smikes/emacs/vm-faq.html)

I've been trying different MUAs that would allow me to read my mail
under FreeBSD and NT (dual boot laptop) while sharing the same mail
folders (shared DOS partition).  So far, only VM/Xemacs allowed me to
do that. Even Netscape FreeBSD/NT use different mechanisms to build
its folder summaries :(

Unfortunalty, VM is a memory hog when your mail files starts to grow.

I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a similar config. (i guess
this should go in the freebsd-questions list?)

Florent.
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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor

On 10-Sep-99 Florent Parent wrote:
  I've been trying different MUAs that would allow me to read my mail
  under FreeBSD and NT (dual boot laptop) while sharing the same mail
  folders (shared DOS partition).  So far, only VM/Xemacs allowed me to
  do that. Even Netscape FreeBSD/NT use different mechanisms to build
  its folder summaries :(
  I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a similar config. (i guess

I have Cyrus IMAP on my server box and my workstation dual boots freebsd/win95
so I use xfmail under freebsd and netscape under windows and it works fine :)

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Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-09 Thread David Scheidt
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote:

 
 On 10-Sep-99 Florent Parent wrote:
   I've been trying different MUAs that would allow me to read my mail
   under FreeBSD and NT (dual boot laptop) while sharing the same mail
   folders (shared DOS partition).  So far, only VM/Xemacs allowed me to
   do that. Even Netscape FreeBSD/NT use different mechanisms to build
   its folder summaries :(
   I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a similar config. (i guess
 
 I have Cyrus IMAP on my server box and my workstation dual boots freebsd/win95
 so I use xfmail under freebsd and netscape under windows and it works fine :)
 
This was what I was going to suggest.  If you are lucky, you might be able
to find an NT imap server that will get along with sharing the folders with
a FreeBSD one, so you can keep everything local.  I haven't looked, because
I don't do windows, except underdress, and never on hardware I own.  I don't
even have a license of MS-DOS.

David



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