Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, mark tinguely wrote: There is nothing like raising a topic that was last seen several months ago, but ... Has there been any serious consideration to committing the arcnet code that mentioned on 20 Jul 2001 (http://iclub.nsu.ru/~fjoe/arcnet/)? I guess I should ask if anyone else has tried the code. I will most likely have another driver for arcnet in a couple months if the customer goes ahead with the project. I keep meaning to take a look at it but haven't yet had the chance. I wanna see IPv6 over ARCNET; 2 great tastes that go great together! -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL| ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | For Great Justice! | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
hi, there! On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 12:59:01PM -0500, mark tinguely wrote: There is nothing like raising a topic that was last seen several months ago, but ... Has there been any serious consideration to committing the arcnet code that mentioned on 20 Jul 2001 (http://iclub.nsu.ru/~fjoe/arcnet/)? yes, I am working on this /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 12:59:01PM -0500, mark tinguely wrote: There is nothing like raising a topic that was last seen several months ago, but ... Has there been any serious consideration to committing the arcnet code that mentioned on 20 Jul 2001 (http://iclub.nsu.ru/~fjoe/arcnet/)? yes, I am working on this I noticed that the hooks for the netgraph and BRIDGE code is missing. I guess this is why I would like to see it committed so that there is not a constant catchup of new features. I also noticed that the outputed packet get bpf_mtap in two places, once for the complete packet arc_output(), and again in the outputting of the fragments (in the device driver). I wonder if the bpf_mtap in the arc_output() should be removed. I am not able to test yet, but I am willing to help. --mark tinguely To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
There is nothing like raising a topic that was last seen several months ago, but ... Has there been any serious consideration to committing the arcnet code that mentioned on 20 Jul 2001 (http://iclub.nsu.ru/~fjoe/arcnet/)? I guess I should ask if anyone else has tried the code. I will most likely have another driver for arcnet in a couple months if the customer goes ahead with the project. --mark tinguely. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Julian Elischer wrote: probably no committers had arcnet or could test it.. I have it and tried to test it last time with no success. I'll try and find some time to look at this stuff. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL| ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | For Great Justice! | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Julian Elischer writes: : what is arcnet? Old, pre-ethernet technology. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
Max Khon wrote: hi, there! what is arcnet? I have made second attempt to implement Arcnet support for FreeBSD (the first was made about two years ago and nothing was ever committed) probably no committers had arcnet or could test it.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- ++ __ _ __ | __--_|\ Julian Elischer | \ U \/ / hard at work in | / \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--x USA\ a very strange | ( OZ)\___ ___ | country ! +- X_.---._/presently in San Francisco \_/ \\ v To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Julian Elischer wrote: :Max Khon wrote: : : hi, there! : :what is arcnet? : It's a token-based LAN protocol. It's used in some embedded applications, as its controllers are cheap, it's pretty low-overhead, and has deterministic behavior (you can calculate the worst case time to send a message to another station). Industrial controlers and data acquistion are the two uses that jump out of my memory. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bipedalism is only a fad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 02:35:51AM -0500, David Scheidt wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Julian Elischer wrote: :Max Khon wrote: : : hi, there! : :what is arcnet? : It's a token-based LAN protocol. It's used in some embedded applications, as its controllers are cheap, it's pretty low-overhead, and has deterministic behavior (you can calculate the worst case time to send a message to another station). Industrial controlers and data acquistion are the two uses that jump out of my memory. David, Julian was kidding you. Read his response again. Joerg -- Joerg B. MicheelEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WAND and NLANR MOAT Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The University of Waikato, CompScience Phone: +64 7 8384794 Private Bag 3105Fax: +64 7 8585095 Hamilton, New Zealand Plan: PMA, TINE and the DAG's To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
Julian Elischer wrote: hi, there! what is arcnet? Old PC networking standard, limited to 2Mbit/S. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
* Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010719 03:29] wrote: Julian Elischer wrote: hi, there! what is arcnet? Old PC networking standard, limited to 2Mbit/S. My college had it, if they still do I may be able to toss them a FreeBSD cdrom and say go for it. :) -- -Alfred Perlstein [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Ok, who wrote this damn function called '??'? And why do my programs keep crashing in it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Rik van Riel wrote: what is arcnet? Old PC networking standard, limited to 2Mbit/S. I believe there is also 16 and 100 Mbit arcnet hardware available ;) That's just plain scary ;-) Although I guess Arcnet does have it's niche applications. -marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
hi, there! On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Marc wrote: I believe there is also 16 and 100 Mbit arcnet hardware available ;) That's just plain scary ;-) Although I guess Arcnet does have it's niche applications. yes. it is often used as solution for last mile problem and people ask for Arcnet drivers because they do not want to install Linux box for that /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Joerg Micheel wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 02:35:51AM -0500, David Scheidt wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Julian Elischer wrote: :Max Khon wrote: : : hi, there! : :what is arcnet? : It's a token-based LAN protocol. It's used in some embedded applications, as its controllers are cheap, it's pretty low-overhead, and has deterministic behavior (you can calculate the worst case time to send a message to another station). Industrial controlers and data acquistion are the two uses that jump out of my memory. David, Julian was kidding you. Read his response again. I'm flattered that you think I was kidding.. actually I had no clue what Arcnet was :-) Joerg -- Joerg B. Micheel Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WAND and NLANR MOAT Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The University of Waikato, CompSciencePhone: +64 7 8384794 Private Bag 3105 Fax: +64 7 8585095 Hamilton, New Zealand Plan: PMA, TINE and the DAG's To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
That's just plain scary ;-) Although I guess Arcnet does have it's niche applications. niche now (reliable, cheap, shielded transformer-coupled for nasty e/m environments), but in the 80's, Novell basically built itself up to 80% market share and the LAN marketpalce on ARCnet´s back, while Ethernet was playing stupid linear bus topology games. Len worked for Datapoint when ARCnet went commerical in 1977 http://MenAndMice.com/DNS-training http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : ISC BIND 8.2.4 for NT4 W2K http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-abuse mail gateways To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
Julian Elischer wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Joerg Micheel wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 02:35:51AM -0500, David Scheidt wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Julian Elischer wrote: :Max Khon wrote: : : hi, there! : :what is arcnet? : It's a token-based LAN protocol. It's used in some embedded applications, as its controllers are cheap, it's pretty low-overhead, and has deterministic behavior (you can calculate the worst case time to send a message to another station). Industrial controlers and data acquistion are the two uses that jump out of my memory. David, Julian was kidding you. Read his response again. I'm flattered that you think I was kidding.. actually I had no clue what Arcnet was :-) Kids these days, eh, Joerg? ;^) -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters Softweyr LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 11:27:43PM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: Julian Elischer wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Joerg Micheel wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 02:35:51AM -0500, David Scheidt wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Julian Elischer wrote: :Max Khon wrote: : : hi, there! : :what is arcnet? : It's a token-based LAN protocol. It's used in some embedded applications, as its controllers are cheap, it's pretty low-overhead, and has deterministic behavior (you can calculate the worst case time to send a message to another station). Industrial controlers and data acquistion are the two uses that jump out of my memory. David, Julian was kidding you. Read his response again. I'm flattered that you think I was kidding.. actually I had no clue what Arcnet was :-) Kids these days, eh, Joerg? ;^) Hmm. Not exactly an oldie myself, but I did have this time warp in my life when coming out of Russia. So, can picture Max' interest in ArcNet, at least at the hobby level. Around here, students build Wavelan's with Lucent cards and an omni antenna and share a 6MBit ADSL link within the neighbourhood. Most students have better Internet access at home for themselves than the whole University :-). Joerg -- Joerg B. MicheelEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WAND and NLANR MOAT Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The University of Waikato, CompScience Phone: +64 7 8384794 Private Bag 3105Fax: +64 7 8585095 Hamilton, New Zealand Plan: PMA, TINE and the DAG's To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
arcnet support for FreeBSD (request for review)
hi, there! I have made second attempt to implement Arcnet support for FreeBSD (the first was made about two years ago and nothing was ever committed) Current bits can be fetched from http://iclub.nsu.ru/~fjoe/arcnet/ In order to use them you should copy dev/, net/ and modules/ to /sys and apply patches from diffs/ if you are running -current or from diffs-stable/ if you are running stable. The most important part is changes to FreeBSD ARP stuff to support link addresses of length != 6 bytes. Both the driver for SMC 90Cx6 adapters and ARP stuff were ported from NetBSD. At this time I tried to make changes to if_ether.c less intrusive (it is not direct port of NetBSD's if_arp.c). The driver is interoperable with Linux Arcnet drivers and works in RFC1201 and RFC1056 modes. I get about 200K via FTP between -stable and -current machines and now trying to build XFree86 3.3.6 on NFS-mounted ports tree. Any feedback is HIGHLY appreciated. Thanks! /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
