Re: Request for Recommendations: media / transcode server

[Ravi Pokala]

That looks pretty good! I'll take a closer look tonight.

 

Thanks!

 

Ravi (rpokala@)

 

 

From: Axel Rau 
Date: 2019-11-14, Thursday at 09:17
To: Ravi Pokala 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: Request for Recommendations: media / transcode server

 

Hi Ravi,

 

Am 14.11.2019 um 09:40 schrieb Ravi Pokala :

 

Suggestions?

 

I moved away from Intel because of there design flaws.

 

I just built an AMD server box from desktop parts (plus a 3U rack case), which 
has all you are asking for:

- motherboard Asrock Rack X470D4U

    
https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=X470D4U#Specifications

- CPU Ryzen, like Ryzen 7 3700X or smaller

 

The idle power consumption is about 50 Watts.

Matisse Ridge CPU should support ECC RAM.

As compared to supermicro’s, the IPMI works flawless and shows a clear design.

 

Axel

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Re: Request for Recommendations: media / transcode server

[Ravi Pokala]

Thanks for the suggestion!

 

-Ravi (rpokala@)

 

 

From: Paul Pathiakis 
Date: 2019-11-14, Thursday at 08:26
To: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" , Ravi Pokala 

Subject: Re: Request for Recommendations: media / transcode server

 

Hi,

 

I used to have  a SuperMicro server board and, since I no longer require BMC, 
I've replaced it with an ASUS B350 Prime board about 2 years ago.

 

I have a Ryzen 2600, a separate 2 port GbE card, and it has everything else you 
have.

 

Outfitted like this, it's less than just a server board.  I have 3400G 
processor (you could go even lower to the 2xxx series for less expense.

 

It's much cheaper to have Ryzen, non-ECC memory, desktop motherboard, etc. than 
just buying a server class motherboard.

 

Server class will be 2-4x more.

 

Paul

 

On Thursday, November 14, 2019, 3:40:18 AM EST, Ravi Pokala 
 wrote: 

 

 

Hi all,

 

For a few years, I've known that my media server's motherboard[1] was 
potentially vulnerable to a bricking issue[2]. It looks like that day has come. 
:-/

 

Or it might just be "normal" old-age, since I've had the board for ~4.5 years.

 

Either way, I find myself in need of a new motherboard. My requirements are:

 

- 2C/4T amd64 (4C/8T preferred)

- 2x DDR4 slots (4x preferred)

- 6x SATA ports (8x preferred)

- 2x 1GbE NICs

- 1x 80mm M.2 slot (2x preferred, 110mm preferred)

- 1x PCIe x8 slot (2x preferred)

- BMC w/ dedicated NIC

 

Suggestions?

 

Thanks,

 

Ravi (rpokala@)

 

[1] 
https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-A1SAM-2550F-Micro-Processor-Motherboard/dp/B00IRHNKKK/

[2] 
https://www.anandtech.com/show/0/semi-critical-intel-atom-c2000-flaw-discovered

 

 

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Re: Request for Recommendations: media / transcode server

[Ravi Pokala]

-Original Message-
From: Josh Paetzel 
Date: 2019-11-14, Thursday at 03:35
To: Ravi Pokala 
Cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" 
Subject: Re: Request for Recommendations: media / transcode server

> 
> On Nov 14, 2019, at 12:40 AM, Ravi Pokala  wrote:
> ...
> _

The bad news.

No one is making server class boards off the current gen SoC based x86 
stuff like they did with the atom c2000 based stuff.

I ended up with my current board because we were evaluating C2000 at work, and 
we used this board to do it. It worked well at the office, so I picked one up 
for myself.

(As luck would have it, we started using C2000 late enough that the errata had 
already been discovered and fixed by the time we started shipping, so our 
products don't have this problem.)

I had planned to move forward to one of the follow-on SoCs, but I wasn't able 
to find any the last I checked.

But! I just checked ark.intel.com for Denverton (the codename of the follow-on 
SoC), and found quite a few of them; it looks like they're branded as "C3000".

And I was able to find quite a few "C3000"s at Supermicro:

https://www.supermicro.com/en/search?Search=C3000

I'll look more closely tonight, but those seem to be in the right ballpark at 
least.

If you look for J4000/J5000 based boards all there is are media server 
boards with no BMC, 1 SODIMM slot, two SATA ports, and a single PCI-e slot. 

"Media server" and "two SATA ports"... 


You’ll need to step up to something like a SM X11SPA which is a lot of 
board to get what you want.

Yeah, I don't need a full-blown Xeon for this. Heck, I don't even want 
something with a *socket* for this! :-)

Supposedly the ARM ecosystem was going to fill that void (or pushed x86 out 
depending on who you ask) but I don’t really know if that happened. 

Indeed. Alas, neither the arm64 hardware nor our arm64 support seems to be 
quite there yet. :-(

Thanks!

Ravi (rpokala@)

Thanks,

Josh Paetzel



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Re: Request for Recommendations: media / transcode server

[Ravi Pokala]

 

From: 
Date: 2019-11-14, Thursday at 01:15
To: Ravi Pokala 
Subject: Re: Request for Recommendations: media / transcode server

 

Hi.

 

Not exactly MB suggestion, but offer to expand your look on requirements.

6x/8x SATA may be replaced with one SAS board (some of LSI Logic based on 
PCI-E) and enough number of cables

For example:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0085FT1LQ

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B012BPLYJC

 

Thanks for the pointers.

 

I have a (admittedly idiosyncratic) dislike of SCSI. It's probably because I've 
been writing code to work with (S)ATA for fifteen years, and haven't really 
wrapped my head around SAS. 

 

I'll keep that in mind though, if I can't find anything that suits my needs.

 

Thanks again,

 

Ravi (rpokala@)

 

14.11.2019, 11:40, "Ravi Pokala" :

> Hi all,

> 

> For a few years, I've known that my media server's motherboard[1] was 
> potentially vulnerable to a bricking issue[2]. It looks like that day has 
> come. :-/

> 

> Or it might just be "normal" old-age, since I've had the board for ~4.5 years.

> 

> Either way, I find myself in need of a new motherboard. My requirements are:

> 

> - 2C/4T amd64 (4C/8T preferred)

> - 2x DDR4 slots (4x preferred)

> - 6x SATA ports (8x preferred)

> - 2x 1GbE NICs

> - 1x 80mm M.2 slot (2x preferred, 110mm preferred)

> - 1x PCIe x8 slot (2x preferred)

> - BMC w/ dedicated NIC

> 

> Suggestions?

> 

> Thanks,

> 

> Ravi (rpokala@)

> 

> [1] 
> https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-A1SAM-2550F-Micro-Processor-Motherboard/dp/B00IRHNKKK/

> [2] 
> https://www.anandtech.com/show/0/semi-critical-intel-atom-c2000-flaw-discovered

> 

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Re: Request for Recommendations: media / transcode server

[Axel Rau]

> Am 14.11.2019 um 19:18 schrieb mike tancsa :
> 
> Just got one of these boards too. Are you able to get ipmi sol working
> fully ?

I did not try it. I’m using the web gui and kvm (none-Java).

> For some reason, it decided to redirect the BIOS to serial, and
> then the post boot up to sol ?!?  Other than that, it does seem like a
> decent board so far, especially with the cost and availability of the CPUs


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Re: Request for Recommendations: media / transcode server

[mike tancsa]

On 11/14/2019 12:17 PM, Axel Rau wrote:
> I just built an AMD server box from desktop parts (plus a 3U rack
> case), which has all you are asking for:
> - motherboard Asrock Rack X470D4U
>   
> https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=X470D4U#Specifications
>  
> 
> - CPU Ryzen, like Ryzen 7 3700X or smaller
>
> The idle power consumption is about 50 Watts.
> Matisse Ridge CPU should support ECC RAM.
> As compared to supermicro’s, the IPMI works flawless and shows a clear design.

Just got one of these boards too. Are you able to get ipmi sol working
fully ? For some reason, it decided to redirect the BIOS to serial, and
then the post boot up to sol ?!?  Other than that, it does seem like a
decent board so far, especially with the cost and availability of the CPUs

    ---Mike

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Re: Request for Recommendations: media / transcode server

[Axel Rau]

Hi Ravi,

> Am 14.11.2019 um 09:40 schrieb Ravi Pokala :
> 
> Suggestions?


I moved away from Intel because of there design flaws.

I just built an AMD server box from desktop parts (plus a 3U rack case), which 
has all you are asking for:
- motherboard Asrock Rack X470D4U

https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=X470D4U#Specifications
 

- CPU Ryzen, like Ryzen 7 3700X or smaller

The idle power consumption is about 50 Watts.
Matisse Ridge CPU should support ECC RAM.
As compared to supermicro’s, the IPMI works flawless and shows a clear design.

Axel
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Re: Request for Recommendations: media / transcode server

[Paul Pathiakis via freebsd-hardware]

 Hi,
I used to have  a SuperMicro server board and, since I no longer require BMC, 
I've replaced it with an ASUS B350 Prime board about 2 years ago.
I have a Ryzen 2600, a separate 2 port GbE card, and it has everything else you 
have.
Outfitted like this, it's less than just a server board.  I have 3400G 
processor (you could go even lower to the 2xxx series for less expense.
It's much cheaper to have Ryzen, non-ECC memory, desktop motherboard, etc. than 
just buying a server class motherboard.
Server class will be 2-4x more.
Paul

On Thursday, November 14, 2019, 3:40:18 AM EST, Ravi Pokala 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi all,

For a few years, I've known that my media server's motherboard[1] was 
potentially vulnerable to a bricking issue[2]. It looks like that day has come. 
:-/

Or it might just be "normal" old-age, since I've had the board for ~4.5 years.

Either way, I find myself in need of a new motherboard. My requirements are:

- 2C/4T amd64 (4C/8T preferred)
- 2x DDR4 slots (4x preferred)
- 6x SATA ports (8x preferred)
- 2x 1GbE NICs
- 1x 80mm M.2 slot (2x preferred, 110mm preferred)
- 1x PCIe x8 slot (2x preferred)
- BMC w/ dedicated NIC

Suggestions?

Thanks,

Ravi (rpokala@)

[1] 
https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-A1SAM-2550F-Micro-Processor-Motherboard/dp/B00IRHNKKK/
[2] 
https://www.anandtech.com/show/0/semi-critical-intel-atom-c2000-flaw-discovered


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Re: Request for Recommendations: media / transcode server

[Josh Paetzel]

> 
> On Nov 14, 2019, at 12:40 AM, Ravi Pokala  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> For a few years, I've known that my media server's motherboard[1] was 
> potentially vulnerable to a bricking issue[2]. It looks like that day has 
> come. :-/
> 
> Or it might just be "normal" old-age, since I've had the board for ~4.5 years.
> 
> Either way, I find myself in need of a new motherboard. My requirements are:
> 
> - 2C/4T amd64 (4C/8T preferred)
> - 2x DDR4 slots (4x preferred)
> - 6x SATA ports (8x preferred)
> - 2x 1GbE NICs
> - 1x 80mm M.2 slot (2x preferred, 110mm preferred)
> - 1x PCIe x8 slot (2x preferred)
> - BMC w/ dedicated NIC
> 
> Suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ravi (rpokala@)
> 
> [1] 
> https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-A1SAM-2550F-Micro-Processor-Motherboard/dp/B00IRHNKKK/
> [2] 
> https://www.anandtech.com/show/0/semi-critical-intel-atom-c2000-flaw-discovered
> 
> 
> _

The bad news.

No one is making server class boards off the current gen SoC based x86 stuff 
like they did with the atom c2000 based stuff.

If you look for J4000/J5000 based boards all there is are media server boards 
with no BMC, 1 SODIMM slot, two SATA ports, and a single PCI-e slot. 

You’ll need to step up to something like a SM X11SPA which is a lot of board to 
get what you want.

Supposedly the ARM ecosystem was going to fill that void (or pushed x86 out 
depending on who you ask) but I don’t really know if that happened. 

Thanks,

Josh Paetzel
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Re: Request for Recommendations: media / transcode server

[a . petrov]

Hi.
 
Not exactly MB suggestion, but offer to expand your look on requirements.
6x/8x SATA may be replaced with one SAS board (some of LSI Logic based on 
PCI-E) and enough number of cables
For example:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0085FT1LQ
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B012BPLYJC
 

14.11.2019, 11:40, "Ravi Pokala" :
> Hi all,
>
> For a few years, I've known that my media server's motherboard[1] was 
> potentially vulnerable to a bricking issue[2]. It looks like that day has 
> come. :-/
>
> Or it might just be "normal" old-age, since I've had the board for ~4.5 years.
>
> Either way, I find myself in need of a new motherboard. My requirements are:
>
> - 2C/4T amd64 (4C/8T preferred)
> - 2x DDR4 slots (4x preferred)
> - 6x SATA ports (8x preferred)
> - 2x 1GbE NICs
> - 1x 80mm M.2 slot (2x preferred, 110mm preferred)
> - 1x PCIe x8 slot (2x preferred)
> - BMC w/ dedicated NIC
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ravi (rpokala@)
>
> [1] 
> https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-A1SAM-2550F-Micro-Processor-Motherboard/dp/B00IRHNKKK/
> [2] 
> https://www.anandtech.com/show/0/semi-critical-intel-atom-c2000-flaw-discovered
>
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Request for Recommendations: media / transcode server

[Ravi Pokala]

Hi all,

For a few years, I've known that my media server's motherboard[1] was 
potentially vulnerable to a bricking issue[2]. It looks like that day has come. 
:-/

Or it might just be "normal" old-age, since I've had the board for ~4.5 years.

Either way, I find myself in need of a new motherboard. My requirements are:

- 2C/4T amd64 (4C/8T preferred)
- 2x DDR4 slots (4x preferred)
- 6x SATA ports (8x preferred)
- 2x 1GbE NICs
- 1x 80mm M.2 slot (2x preferred, 110mm preferred)
- 1x PCIe x8 slot (2x preferred)
- BMC w/ dedicated NIC

Suggestions?

Thanks,

Ravi (rpokala@)

[1] 
https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-A1SAM-2550F-Micro-Processor-Motherboard/dp/B00IRHNKKK/
[2] 
https://www.anandtech.com/show/0/semi-critical-intel-atom-c2000-flaw-discovered


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