Re: [RFC] A trivial change for DESKTOP_ENTRIES (take 2)

2011-07-15 Thread Scot Hetzel
2011/7/14 Pav Lucistnik p...@freebsd.org:
 Stephen Montgomery-Smith píše v čt 14. 07. 2011 v 11:57 -0500:

 entry.  I assume that the filename of the desktop entry is unimportant,

 The filename of desktop entry should be 100% inconsequential, and our
 only care should be not have two ports installing same file.

 and is used only internally by Gnome or whatever.

 Sounds like a bug to me.

 But maybe it would have been better to have had one more entry in
 DESKTOP_ENTRIES that was the actual filename of the desktop entry.

 Yes, but is it worth the effort? Note you'll have to introduce it
 somehow not to break existing ports.


How about something like this:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=158936

Scot
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Re: p5-XML-LibXML 1.80,1

2011-07-15 Thread Oliver Heesakkers
Op donderdag 14 juli 2011 19:25:59 schreef ajtiM:
 Problem to update p5-XML-LibXML 1.80,1 on FreebSD 8.2:
 I used portmaster but I did try wit make install too:
 (...)
 Can't locate XML/SAX.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.12.4 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.12.4/BSDPAN
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.12.4/mach
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.12.4 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.12.4/mach
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.12.4 .).
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.
 *** Error code 2
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/p5-XML-LibXML/work/XML-LibXML-1.80.

reinstall textproc/p5-XML-SAX first
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Re: p5-XML-LibXML 1.80,1

2011-07-15 Thread ajtiM
On Friday 15 July 2011 04:51:43 Oliver Heesakkers wrote:
 /p5-XML-LibXML

Thank you very much. There was one other p5* port and looks like that 
portmaster is not usable more for update.

Mitja

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Re: p5-XML-LibXML 1.80,1

2011-07-15 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:40:27 -0500
ajtiM articulated:

 Thank you very much. There was one other p5* port and looks like that 
 portmaster is not usable more for update.

I would suggest using either portupdate or portmanager. Both can handle
this installation/update for you without incident.

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Re: [RFC] A trivial change for DESKTOP_ENTRIES (take 2)

2011-07-15 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011, Scot Hetzel wrote:


2011/7/14 Pav Lucistnik p...@freebsd.org:

Stephen Montgomery-Smith píše v čt 14. 07. 2011 v 11:57 -0500:


entry.  I assume that the filename of the desktop entry is unimportant,


The filename of desktop entry should be 100% inconsequential, and our
only care should be not have two ports installing same file.


and is used only internally by Gnome or whatever.


Sounds like a bug to me.


But maybe it would have been better to have had one more entry in
DESKTOP_ENTRIES that was the actual filename of the desktop entry.


Yes, but is it worth the effort? Note you'll have to introduce it
somehow not to break existing ports.



How about something like this:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=158936


Wouldn't the point of using a separate filename argument be to let the 
user specify exactly what the name is?  Here you end up with the same 
system-processed filename.  Possibly I've misunderstood.


Apart from whether it's necessary, making the filename the last field 
would simplify the code.  Just .if defined(DESKTOP_ENTRIES) or 
defined(DESKTOP_ENTRIESv2) at the start of parameter processing, and a 
.if defined(DESKTOP_ENTRIESv2) section after it to override the 
filename.  It could also be made polymorphic, basing what it does on the 
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Re: What about creating an office team

2011-07-15 Thread George Liaskos
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote:
 Hi,

 Is there anyone interested here to be part of an office team? the goal of
 that team will be to take care of the office components of the ports.

 Those are quite important for the desktop experience and having relying on
 one person being able through a team to potentially have multiple person
 taking care or this would be great imho.

 The candidate for maintenance by this team would be:
 editors/libreoffice
 editors/openoffice* (? maho@ are you interested in that?)
 textproc/libwps
 textproc/libwpd
 *spell*
 textproc/mythes
 textproc/hyphen
 devel/icu

 maybe many more? (you can propose your candidate here :))

 Any volunteer to be part of that team if any?

 maybe renaming the openoffice@ to office@ should be enough

 regards,
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I don't have much free time but it's certainly better than nothing.

Count me in :)

Regards,
George
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Re: What about creating an office team

2011-07-15 Thread Philipp Ost

Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
[...]

maybe many more? (you can propose your candidate here :))


What about math/gnumeric? It's a nice, lightweight spreadsheet if one 
doesn't want the `bloat' that is open-/libreoffice.


Good luck with your project!

Regards,
Philipp



Re: [RFC] A trivial change for DESKTOP_ENTRIES (take 2)

2011-07-15 Thread Scot Hetzel
2011/7/15 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com:
 How about something like this:

 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=158936

 Wouldn't the point of using a separate filename argument be to let the user
 specify exactly what the name is?  Here you end up with the same
 system-processed filename.  Possibly I've misunderstood.

The system-processed filename could be simplified for the
DESKTOP_ENTRIESv2 in install-desktop-entries to just

   filename=$$1

But then we would still need to add a check to check-desktop-entries
for DESKTOP_ENTRIESv2 that would detect illegal characters in the
filename.

 Apart from whether it's necessary, making the filename the last field would
 simplify the code.  Just .if defined(DESKTOP_ENTRIES) or
 defined(DESKTOP_ENTRIESv2) at the start of parameter processing, and a .if
 defined(DESKTOP_ENTRIESv2) section after it to override the filename.  It
 could also be made polymorphic, basing what it does on the number of fields
 rather than a new DESKTOP_ENTRIESv2 define.

That was my first ideal, but since the entire processing is done in a
@set ${DESKTOP_ENTRIES{,v2}} XXX ; while [$$# -gt {6,7}]; do
filename=$${4,1}... ; done loop, I wasn't sure how to change this
part.

Scot
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Re: [RFC] A trivial change for DESKTOP_ENTRIES (take 2)

2011-07-15 Thread Eitan Adler
 But then we would still need to add a check to check-desktop-entries
 for DESKTOP_ENTRIESv2 that would detect illegal characters in the
 filename.

Since this is not user settable IMHO the check should really be done
in portlint, not in b.p.m.

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Re: [RFC] A trivial change for DESKTOP_ENTRIES (take 2)

2011-07-15 Thread Chris Rees
On 15 Jul 2011 03:16, Stephen Montgomery-Smith step...@missouri.edu
wrote:

 On 07/14/2011 02:29 PM, Chris Rees wrote:


 On 14 Jul 2011 17:58, Stephen Montgomery-Smith step...@missouri.edu
 mailto:step...@missouri.edu wrote:
  Joe Average user who doesn't actually install the ports shouldn't be
 expected to read UPDATING.

 Er... he really should and is expected to.


 The situation I am thinking of is where a group all use FreeBSD.  One
person is responsible for installation and upkeep of the computers, and
everyone else just uses them (for example, they don't have root access).

 An example of this is the University of Missouri Math Dept about 10 years
ago.  We all used FreeBSD.  Now being Mathematicians, most of us didn't have
a clue about how it all worked inside.  Most of us wouldn't even understand
what the UPDATING entries mean.

 Since then, most of the Dept have moved to Windows or the Mac.  I am one
of the few who still uses FreeBSD.  So maybe you are correct after all -
only use FreeBSD if you are a power user.


No, I see your point now, and I'm sorry. I was surprised, because I wouldn't
have expected you to say reading updating was mandatory! Now I realise
that's not what you said.

I'll return to my cave.

Chris
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Re: [RFC] A trivial change for DESKTOP_ENTRIES (take 2)

2011-07-15 Thread Pav Lucistnik
Warren Block píše v pá 15. 07. 2011 v 07:15 -0600:

 It could also be made polymorphic, basing what it does on the 
 number of fields rather than a new DESKTOP_ENTRIESv2 define.

I believe that's impossible because you can create several desktop
entries by repeating the quadruple of values in this variable.
Quite similar to OPTIONS.

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Re: What about creating an office team

2011-07-15 Thread Chris Rees
On 15 July 2011 16:35, Philipp Ost p...@smo.de wrote:
 Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
 [...]

 maybe many more? (you can propose your candidate here :))

 What about math/gnumeric? It's a nice, lightweight spreadsheet if one
 doesn't want the `bloat' that is open-/libreoffice.

 Good luck with your project!


gnumeric is maintained by gnome@, CCd. I'd imagine they might want to
hang on to it.

Chris
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Re: [RFC] A trivial change for DESKTOP_ENTRIES (take 2)

2011-07-15 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011, Pav Lucistnik wrote:


Warren Block píše v pá 15. 07. 2011 v 07:15 -0600:


It could also be made polymorphic, basing what it does on the
number of fields rather than a new DESKTOP_ENTRIESv2 define.


I believe that's impossible because you can create several desktop
entries by repeating the quadruple of values in this variable.
Quite similar to OPTIONS.


It would be just like the error check at the start of the routine, look 
for an even multiple of 6 or 7 fields.


But that brings up another problem.  All desktop entries would have to 
be the same type.  Can't set the filename for one and leave the others 
alone.  Unless empty fields are used to mean a default filename, and 
that just makes it more complicated for a rare situation.


FWIW, I think the original code with a better regex like Jung-uk Kim has 
in http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-July/068737.html 
is still the way to go.  If the port requires a special desktop entry 
filename, that seems beyond the scope of the DESKTOP_ENTRIES variable.


This all should be documented in the Porter's Handbook, and I'll 
volunteer to work on the DESKTOP_ENTRIES section once there's a decision 
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Re: [RFC] A trivial change for DESKTOP_ENTRIES (take 2)

2011-07-15 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith

On 07/15/2011 04:57 PM, Warren Block wrote:


FWIW, I think the original code with a better regex like Jung-uk Kim has
in http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-July/068737.html
is still the way to go.  If the port requires a special desktop entry
filename, that seems beyond the scope of the DESKTOP_ENTRIES variable.


I agree.  DESKTOP_ENTRIESv2 seems like a lot of work for just three ports.
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Re: [RFC] A trivial change for DESKTOP_ENTRIES (take 2)

2011-07-15 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:


On 07/15/2011 04:57 PM, Warren Block wrote:


FWIW, I think the original code with a better regex like Jung-uk Kim has
in http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-July/068737.html
is still the way to go.  If the port requires a special desktop entry
filename, that seems beyond the scope of the DESKTOP_ENTRIES variable.


I agree.  DESKTOP_ENTRIESv2 seems like a lot of work for just three ports.


It's not even three ports.  AFAIR, the only current port where it 
matters is x11-wm/compiz, the port that exposed the problem.  Allowing 
dashes fixes that.

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Submitting a follow up to a port update

2011-07-15 Thread Gavin McDonald
Hi All,

I'm the current maintainer for the scons port.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=158205 

As you can see, on the 24th June an update/patch was requested.
I also received 2 emails, one from skreuzer via FreeBSD-gnats-submit
and then also one from Edwin via bug-followup.

So I check it out etc, looks fine and I want to approve it. So what did I do
I clicked on the 'Submit Followup' link on the webpage 

(mailto:bug-follo...@freebsd.org,skreu...@freebsd.org?subject=Re:%20ports/15
8205:%20%5BPATCH%5D%20devel%2Fscons%3A%20update%20to%20%32.%30.%31)

I send my email there and to 'bug-follo...@freebsd.org';
'skreu...@freebsd.org' on the 25th June.

Not only have I not heard anything but my follow up and approval to patch
has not appeared on the patch [158205]

I assume I have done something wrong?

I also assume folks think I have been ignoring them and will get ousted by a
maintainer timeout when in fact I replied approving the patch
after only one day.

What do I need to do now?

Thanks

Gav...




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Re: Submitting a follow up to a port update

2011-07-15 Thread Chris Rees
On 12 July 2011 23:38, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote:
 Hi All,

 I'm the current maintainer for the scons port.

 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=158205

 As you can see, on the 24th June an update/patch was requested.
 I also received 2 emails, one from skreuzer via FreeBSD-gnats-submit
 and then also one from Edwin via bug-followup.

 So I check it out etc, looks fine and I want to approve it. So what did I do
 I clicked on the 'Submit Followup' link on the webpage

 (mailto:bug-follo...@freebsd.org,skreu...@freebsd.org?subject=Re:%20ports/15
 8205:%20%5BPATCH%5D%20devel%2Fscons%3A%20update%20to%20%32.%30.%31)

 I send my email there and to 'bug-follo...@freebsd.org';
 'skreu...@freebsd.org' on the 25th June.

 Not only have I not heard anything but my follow up and approval to patch
 has not appeared on the patch [158205]

 I assume I have done something wrong?

 I also assume folks think I have been ignoring them and will get ousted by a
 maintainer timeout when in fact I replied approving the patch
 after only one day.

 What do I need to do now?

 Thanks

 Gav...


pgollucci@ has just fixed it for you.

All you have to do is wait for skreuzer@ to commit it ;)

Chris
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Re: ports/144597: security/openssh-portable fails to compile with KERBEROS enabled

2011-07-15 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith

On 07/15/2011 06:28 PM, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:

On 07/15/2011 06:23 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote:



On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:39:01PM -0500, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:

Hey people,

I was looking over old unresolved PR's.  I came across this one:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/144597

When I sent a message to the submitter of the PR, the email bounced back
suggesting that the submitter no longer uses that email address.

I don't think it would be too hard to make the port build under the
circumstances he describes.  But is ANYONE interested?  Would it be
worth investing effort to make this work?

Note that the port has ports@ as its maintainer, so it doesn't look like
there is a lot of interest.

Thanks, Stephen

P.S. This one is related:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/57498

Is this a big bag of worms?

I can see that seems to be fixed, for example, in mail/fetchmail.


Considering that the port version is 5.2p1 and the current version in
stable/8 is 5.4p1 and greater than that for HEAD I would say it would be
much more of a benefit to get the port updated to the latest version and
then work on it from there, otherwise its a loss of time for an outdated
version.

Last time I looked at this port it was a mess with a collection of third
party patches from all over the place which I think lead to a
discrepancy in the update of the port but that's just my opinion. It
would be nice to see a simplified version of this port so it isn't such a
monster to update and have an option for a user supplied patches
directory that stands outside of the tree (user configured path) and it
just blindly attempts to apply what is in that directory. I think this
would help slim it down a little so it can consistently be bumped to a
new revision without hassle.


Something like:

# Defaults to /usr/ports/patches unless path is user specified.
WITH_PATCH_TREE?=/usr/ports/patches

/usr/ports/patches/ # Distributed empty. everything else user created.
|-- net
|   `-- wireshark
`-- security
  |-- gnupg
  `-- openssh-portable


Things like this would certainly make it easier for a consistent user
supplied patch to be kept local for build machines. I can't count the
times on 2 hands and 2 feet that I wanted to patch a port with a local
patch and had to continuously cp(1) a patch back to a ports tree using
rsync(1)


All these are good ideas, but I am not the person to do it.  I don't use
this software.  I'm going to relinquish responsibility for this PR.


I found some possible maintainers of this port at 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/150493.  If either of 
them reply, then I'll pick it up again.

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