Re: multimedia/mplayer2 (was Re: devel/check)

[Andy Farkas]

On 12/02/2017 20:06, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote:

Andy Farkas skrev:

But now 'portmaster -a' fails in multimedia/mplayer2 :( :(

Why do you use mplayer2 (instead of mplayer or mpv)?


Good question. I guess I was thinking that mplayer2 was one
better than mplayer.


And why is this port still in the tree?



Another good question...

-andyf

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multimedia/mplayer2 (was Re: devel/check)

[Herbert J. Skuhra]

Andy Farkas skrev:
> 
> But now 'portmaster -a' fails in multimedia/mplayer2 :( :(

Why do you use mplayer2 (instead of mplayer or mpv)?

And why is this port still in the tree?

* snapshot is from 2013-04-28
* github.com/mplayer2/mplayer2 is no longer updated
* http://git.mplayer2.org does not exist
* mplayer2.org redirects to http://www3.mplayer2.org (no content!)

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Re: devel/check

[Andy Farkas]

On 12/02/2017 19:01, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:

pkg has plenty of manpages all of which are specified in the "SEE 
ALSO" section of pkg(8) which is a standardize section exactly made of 
that. 


The man page for pkg(8) does not explicitly state that the sub-commands
to pkg  have their own man page.

SEE ALSO is not an indication that you should read those bits to find
out about flags for pkg(8) commands.

Just sayin. I was gonna delete this bit, but might keep it:


For example:

% man 1 ls

"SEE ALSO ... xo_parse_args(3)..."  ??? why?

-andyf

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Re: devel/check

[Baptiste Daroussin]

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 10:43:57PM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Andy Farkas  wrote:
> 
> > On 12/02/2017 09:24, RW via freebsd-ports wrote:
> >
> > It doesn't, pkg-delete is just the documentation for "pkg delete".
> >>
> >>
> > My proposal is that the man page for pkg(8) should state this.
> >
> > -andyf
> 
> 
> First, the pkg(8) page should explicitly state that there are man pages for
> each pkg command.  Since this is NOT a typical FreeBSD practice, it is a
> POLA violation to not make it clear.

pkg has plenty of manpages all of which are specified in the "SEE ALSO" section
of pkg(8) which is a standardize section exactly made of that.


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Re: devel/check

[Kevin Oberman]

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Andy Farkas  wrote:

> On 12/02/2017 16:43, Kevin Oberman wrote:
>
> First, the pkg(8) page should explicitly state that there are man pages for
>> each pkg command.
>>
>
> Yes. Were this the case, this thread wouldn't have existed.
>
> Since this is NOT a typical FreeBSD practice, it is a
>> POLA violation to not make it clear.
>>
>
> I've been POLA'd a few times with FreeBSD over the last couple decades...
> I'm used to it now :)
>
> Second, the '-f' option does delete libcheck. Does installing devel/check
>> cleanly fix up unresolved dependencies? If not, use of -o is the right
>> answer. I'll admit that I m not sure.
>>
>
> I'm not sure either. I did 'pkg delete -f libcheck' and then 'portmaster
> -a'
> again - devel/check installed, whereas before it would not. I was happy.
>
> But now 'portmaster -a' fails in multimedia/mplayer2 :( :(
>
> ...something about "/usr/local/lib/libcdio_cdda.so: undefined reference to
> 'mmc_get_hwinfo@CDIO_16'"...
>
> -andyf
>

Has sysutils/libcdio been re-installed? I should expect that the symbol is
from that port. (Educated guess.. not a promise.) Might be a dependency
issue.
I don't use maplayer2, so I can't try checking my dependency tree.
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Re: devel/check

[Adam Vande More]

On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 12:43 AM, Kevin Oberman  wrote:

> First, the pkg(8) page should explicitly state that there are man pages for
> each pkg command.  Since this is NOT a typical FreeBSD practice, it is a
> POLA violation to not make it clear.


It does so on my system in the same manner other modular software does eg
openssl.

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Re: devel/check

[Andy Farkas]

On 12/02/2017 16:43, Kevin Oberman wrote:


First, the pkg(8) page should explicitly state that there are man pages for
each pkg command.


Yes. Were this the case, this thread wouldn't have existed.


Since this is NOT a typical FreeBSD practice, it is a
POLA violation to not make it clear.


I've been POLA'd a few times with FreeBSD over the last couple decades...
I'm used to it now :)


Second, the '-f' option does delete libcheck. Does installing devel/check
cleanly fix up unresolved dependencies? If not, use of -o is the right
answer. I'll admit that I m not sure.


I'm not sure either. I did 'pkg delete -f libcheck' and then 'portmaster -a'
again - devel/check installed, whereas before it would not. I was happy.

But now 'portmaster -a' fails in multimedia/mplayer2 :( :(

...something about "/usr/local/lib/libcdio_cdda.so: undefined reference to
'mmc_get_hwinfo@CDIO_16'"...

-andyf

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Re: devel/check

[Kevin Oberman]

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Andy Farkas  wrote:

> On 12/02/2017 09:24, RW via freebsd-ports wrote:
>
> It doesn't, pkg-delete is just the documentation for "pkg delete".
>>
>>
> My proposal is that the man page for pkg(8) should state this.
>
> -andyf


First, the pkg(8) page should explicitly state that there are man pages for
each pkg command.  Since this is NOT a typical FreeBSD practice, it is a
POLA violation to not make it clear.

Second, the '-f' option does delete libcheck. Does installing devel/check
cleanly fix up unresolved dependencies? If not, use of -o is the right
answer. I'll admit that I m not sure.
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Re: devel/check

[Andy Farkas]

On 12/02/2017 09:24, RW via freebsd-ports wrote:


It doesn't, pkg-delete is just the documentation for "pkg delete".



My proposal is that the man page for pkg(8) should state this.

-andyf

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Re: devel/check

[RW via freebsd-ports]

On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:08:29 +1000
Andy Farkas wrote:

> On 12/02/2017 08:59, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> > On 11/02/2017 22:57, Andy Farkas wrote:  
> >> The -f flag is not mentioned in the man page for pkg(8).
> >>  
> > Try reading the pkg-delete(8) man page.
> >  
> 
> To be fair, the pkg(8) man page does not mention that pkg(8) calls
> sub-programmes  like pkg-delete(8).

It doesn't, pkg-delete is just the documentation for "pkg delete".
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Re: devel/check

[Andy Farkas]

On 12/02/2017 08:59, Matthew Seaman wrote:

On 11/02/2017 22:57, Andy Farkas wrote:

The -f flag is not mentioned in the man page for pkg(8).


Try reading the pkg-delete(8) man page.



To be fair, the pkg(8) man page does not mention that pkg(8) calls
sub-programmes  like pkg-delete(8). The only reference is in the
SEE ALSO section.

-andyf

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Re: devel/check

[Matthew Seaman]

On 11/02/2017 22:57, Andy Farkas wrote:
> The -f flag is not mentioned in the man page for pkg(8).
> 

Try reading the pkg-delete(8) man page.

Cheers,

Matthew




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Re: devel/check

[Andy Farkas]

On 12/02/2017 08:37, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote:

Andy Farkas skrev:

I did a 'portmaster -a' and it seems devel/libcheck has changed to
devel/check.
(nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING about this)

But devel/check won't install because:

pkg-static: check-0.11.0 conflicts with libcheck-0.10.0 (installs files
into the same place).  Problematic file:  /usr/local/bin/checkmk

I then tried 'pkg delete libcheck' but it wants to delete 48 packages
including my mate-base (which I rely on!) and also lumina which would
leave me without a window-manager!

- pkg delete -f libcheck
or
- portmaster -o devel/check libcheck



Thanks Herb!

The -f flag is not mentioned in the man page for pkg(8).

How did you know about it?

-andyf

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Re: devel/check

[Herbert J. Skuhra]

Andy Farkas skrev:
> 
> I did a 'portmaster -a' and it seems devel/libcheck has changed to
> devel/check.
> (nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING about this)
> 
> But devel/check won't install because:
> 
> pkg-static: check-0.11.0 conflicts with libcheck-0.10.0 (installs files
> into the same place).  Problematic file:  /usr/local/bin/checkmk
> 
> I then tried 'pkg delete libcheck' but it wants to delete 48 packages
> including my mate-base (which I rely on!) and also lumina which would
> leave me without a window-manager!

- pkg delete -f libcheck
or
- portmaster -o devel/check libcheck

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