etoile ports dropped for strange reason (Re: freebsd-ports Digest, Vol 474, Issue 7)

2012-06-21 Thread Mikhail T.

On 21.06.2012 06:54, Michael Scheidell wrote:

you are more then welcome to adopt them.

Is the above REALLY, what API no longer supported means these days?

   -mi

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Re: etoile ports dropped for strange reason (Re: freebsd-ports Digest, Vol 474, Issue 7)

2012-06-21 Thread Michael Scheidell
Sorry if I confused you with more than one  comment in one email. Next time I 
will send multiple emails with just one comment in each  email. I hope this 
helps.

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Michael Scheidell, CTO
|SECNAP Network Security


-Original message-
From: Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com
To: Michael Scheidell scheid...@freebsd.org
Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, Jun 21, 2012 11:32:59 GMT+00:00
Subject: etoile ports dropped for strange reason (Re: freebsd-ports Digest, Vol 
474, Issue 7)

On 21.06.2012 06:54, Michael Scheidell wrote:
you are more then welcome to adopt them.
Is the above REALLY, what API no longer supported means these days?
-mi
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Re: etoile ports dropped for strange reason (Re: freebsd-ports Digest, Vol 474, Issue 7)

2012-06-21 Thread Wesley Shields
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:40:15AM +, Michael Scheidell wrote:
 Sorry if I confused you with more than one  comment in one email. Next
 time I will send multiple emails with just one comment in each  email.
 I hope this helps.

Please try to be civil.

 -Original message-
 From: Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com
 To: Michael Scheidell scheid...@freebsd.org
 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
 Sent: Thu, Jun 21, 2012 11:32:59 GMT+00:00
 Subject: etoile ports dropped for strange reason (Re: freebsd-ports Digest, 
 Vol 474, Issue 7)
 
 On 21.06.2012 06:54, Michael Scheidell wrote:
 you are more then welcome to adopt them.
 Is the above REALLY, what API no longer supported means these days?
 -mi

The release in our ports tree is not recommended upstream anymore.
Quoting the upstream webpage: Take note they [old releases] won't
usually work with recent LLVM and GNUstep releases.

As the port is unmaintained and the version in our tree is not
recommended for use anymore it was deprecated. Sure, the reason could be
more clear. I will commit an update that reflects that to make it more
clear.

If you would like to see this port remain in the tree I recommend
adopting it and keeping it in working order (first step is to update it
to a recommended release).

-- WXS
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Re: etoile ports dropped for strange reason (Re: freebsd-ports Digest, Vol 474, Issue 7)

2012-06-21 Thread Boris Samorodov

21.06.2012 19:37, Wesley Shields пишет:


The release in our ports tree is not recommended upstream anymore.
Quoting the upstream webpage: Take note they [old releases] won't
usually work with recent LLVM and GNUstep releases.

As the port is unmaintained and the version in our tree is not
recommended for use anymore it was deprecated. Sure, the reason could be
more clear. I will commit an update that reflects that to make it more
clear.


That was helpful, thanks.

--
WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam)
FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve


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Re: etoile ports dropped for strange reason (Re: freebsd-ports Digest, Vol 474, Issue 7)

2012-06-21 Thread Mikhail T.

On 21.06.2012 11:37, Wesley Shields wrote:

The release in our ports tree is not recommended upstream anymore.
Quoting the upstream webpage: Take note they [old releases] won't
usually work with recent LLVM and GNUstep releases.

Do we have these recent LLVM and GNUstep releases in the tree already?

As the port is unmaintained and the version in our tree is not
recommended for use anymore it was deprecated. Sure, the reason could be
more clear. I will commit an update that reflects that to make it more
clear.

If you would like to see this port remain in the tree I recommend
adopting it and keeping it in working order (first step is to update it
to a recommended release).
The chance of a new maintainer stepping up may increase, if the deprecation 
message states something like Update to a new release is required... And, of 
course, a more generous expiration time would be needed. These ports are a legion...


Yours,

   -mi

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Re: etoile ports dropped for strange reason (Re: freebsd-ports Digest, Vol 474, Issue 7)

2012-06-21 Thread Wesley Shields
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:27:04PM -0400, Mikhail T. wrote:
 On 21.06.2012 11:37, Wesley Shields wrote:
  The release in our ports tree is not recommended upstream anymore.
  Quoting the upstream webpage: Take note they [old releases] won't
  usually work with recent LLVM and GNUstep releases.
 Do we have these recent LLVM and GNUstep releases in the tree already?

In base, yes I believe so. Older, yet still supported FreeBSD releases,
would require using what's in the ports tree. Please don't take my word
on any of this as it was only what I read from their webpage as I don't
use any of these ports.

  As the port is unmaintained and the version in our tree is not
  recommended for use anymore it was deprecated. Sure, the reason could be
  more clear. I will commit an update that reflects that to make it more
  clear.
 
  If you would like to see this port remain in the tree I recommend
  adopting it and keeping it in working order (first step is to update it
  to a recommended release).
 The chance of a new maintainer stepping up may increase, if the
 deprecation message states something like Update to a new release
 is required... And, of course, a more generous expiration time would
 be needed. These ports are a legion...

I will update the deprecation message shortly. I will also update the
expiration date if someone is willing to at least verbally commit to
working on an update. I see no point in pushing the expiration date back
if nobody is going to do the work to keep it properly maintained. If
someone steps up after the port has been removed I will happily pull it
out of the Attic for that person.

-- WXS
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