Re: kde4 packages, WITHOUT_NEW_XORG fails
On 07/04/14 16:28, Kevin Oberman wrote: On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Patrick Powell papow...@astart.com mailto:papow...@astart.com wrote: On 07/04/14 14:23, Koop Mast wrote: [...] On 4-7-2014 22:49, Kevin Oberman wrote: This discussion begs the question of why won't WITH_NEW_XORG work for you? I am aware of some pretty old hardware that simply has no support in recent Xorg servers, but these are pretty old by now. And, as time passes, the bit rot will make more and more things fail with the old code. I am far from an X expert, but a post to x11@ of the failure you see WITH_NEW_XORG including the Xorg.0.log, /etc/make.conf, /etc/src.conf and any Xorg.conf you are using might get things working (and might not). x11@ is a far better place to ask any of the questions about X issues. I should also recommend that, if you have not already tried, move your Xorg.conf aside and let X try to configure itself. It is very rare to require a full configuration these days. Most only need things for added fonts and extra modules. The xorg.conf on my laptop is only about 27 lines long and mostly added fonts. ports/UPDATING states: 20140218: AFFECTS: users of KDE SC 4 AUTHOR: k...@freebsd.org KDE SC ports have been updated to 4.12.2. kdeadmin, kdenetwork, kdesdk, and kdetoys ports have been split due to upstream changes. KDE Workspace port has been updated to 4.11.6. It requires modern Mesa libraries, provided by WITH_NEW_XORG knob. To update Xorg ports to newer version follow instructions at https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics So it not possible anymore to run KDE4 with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG. -Koop Ahhh!!! I missed that. If this is the case, then perhaps the default for generating the PKGNG repository should be WITH_NEW_XORG? Then we could use the PKGNG respository for KDE4 applications. OR: we could have two repositories: one which uses WITHOUT_NEW_XORG and has the old Xorg drivers and no KDE4 support and one with WITH_NEW_XORG which has the new Xorg drivers and KDE4 support. I think I read some discussion about this possibility but I can't recall the outcome. Your timing is MOST excellent. Koop just announced those repositories were available a few hours ago. http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=306646+0+current/freebsd-announce The repositories cover 9.x and 10.x for i386 and amd64. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com mailto:rkober...@gmail.com Huzzah! Hurrah Ummm... hold on a bit here... No 8.4 support? Why not just toss it in, with the usual: Warning! Here there be dragons. Or at least untested and verified packages. These have been compiled with make.conf containing: MAKE_NEW_XORG=yes At least doing this will provide KDE4 packages in an easy to access fashion. As for the XORG support, this seems to work fine for me as well, so I do not need compatibility with the old drivers... Yes, yes... sloth. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
kde4 packages, WITHOUT_NEW_XORG fails
I have run into a problem trying to recompile the KDE4 packages with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG=YES. From the CHANGES file: 20140416: AFFECTS: users of x11/xorg graphics/dri graphics/libGL and related ports AUTHOR: x...@freebsd.org The default xorg version has been switched on FreeBSD 10-STABLE and FreeBSD 9-STABLE. To upgrade graphics/libGL, graphics/dri and related MESA ports, it is necessary to first remove the old versions of those ports. No special upgrade procedure is needed for xorg ports but it is necessary to recompile all xorg drivers (xf86-*) and other ports that depend on the xserver version, including emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions. Portrevisions have been bumped where needed, but users of drivers not in the ports tree will need to recompile those. If it is important to stay on the old versions, it is possible to specify WITHOUT_NEW_XORG= in /etc/make.conf to get the old xorg distribution. My make.conf file: WITH_PKGNG=yes WITHOUT_NEW_XORG=yes I did portsnap fetch update, and then did: # cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4 # make missing /tmp/missing_files I massaged the /tmp/missing_files to use pkg to try to download a package if it was in the repository. If they were not, I then tried to use 'make BATCH=YES install' to compile and install the port. Here is the output of the script, showing the errors for the ports that did not compile. x11-themes/kdeartwork4 deskutils/kdeplasma-addons x11-clocks/kdetoys4 x11/kde4-workspace net/kget net/krdc x11-clocks/ktux graphics/libEGL graphics/libglesv2 print/indexinfo graphics/libglapi multimedia/libdvdcss Output: + p x11-themes/kdeartwork4 + pkg install x11-themes/kdeartwork4 Updating repository catalogue pkg: No packages matching 'x11-themes/kdeartwork4' available in the repositories + cd /usr/ports/x11-themes/kdeartwork4 + make BATCH=yes install ===Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/libkworkspace.so in /usr/ports/x11/kde4-workspace === kde-workspace-4.11.9 requires modern libGL. Please, set WITH_NEW_XORG and update your ports. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4-workspace. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-themes/kdeartwork4. + p deskutils/kdeplasma-addons + pkg install deskutils/kdeplasma-addons Updating repository catalogue pkg: No packages matching 'deskutils/kdeplasma-addons' available in the repositories + cd /usr/ports/deskutils/kdeplasma-addons + make BATCH=yes install ===Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/libkworkspace.so in /usr/ports/x11/kde4-workspace === kde-workspace-4.11.9 requires modern libGL. Please, set WITH_NEW_XORG and update your ports. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4-workspace. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/deskutils/kdeplasma-addons. + p x11-clocks/kdetoys4 + pkg install x11-clocks/kdetoys4 Updating repository catalogue pkg: No packages matching 'x11-clocks/kdetoys4' available in the repositories + cd /usr/ports/x11-clocks/kdetoys4 + make BATCH=yes install === Staging for kdetoys-4.12.5 ===Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/ktux in /usr/ports/x11-clocks/ktux ===Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/libkworkspace.so in /usr/ports/x11/kde4-workspace === kde-workspace-4.11.9 requires modern libGL. Please, set WITH_NEW_XORG and update your ports. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4-workspace. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-clocks/ktux. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-clocks/kdetoys4. + p x11/kde4-workspace + pkg install x11/kde4-workspace Updating repository catalogue pkg: No packages matching 'x11/kde4-workspace' available in the repositories + cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4-workspace + make BATCH=yes install === kde-workspace-4.11.9 requires modern libGL. Please, set WITH_NEW_XORG and update your ports. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4-workspace. + p net/kget + pkg install net/kget Updating repository catalogue kg: No packages matching 'net/kget' available in the repositories + cd /usr/ports/net/kget + make BATCH=yes install ===Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/libkworkspace.so in /usr/ports/x11/kde4-workspace === kde-workspace-4.11.9 requires modern libGL. Please, set WITH_NEW_XORG and update your ports. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4-workspace. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/kget. + p net/krdc + pkg install net/krdc Updating repository catalogue pkg: No packages matching 'net/krdc' available in the repositories + cd /usr/ports/net/krdc + make BATCH=yes install === Building for krdc-4.12.5 [ 83%] Built target krdc /usr/ports/net/krdc/work/krdc-4.12.5/vnc/vncclientthread.cpp: In member function 'void VncClientThrea d::clientSetKeepalive()': /usr/ports/net/krdc/work/krdc-4.12.5/vnc/vncclientthread.cpp:610: error: 'TCP_KEEPIDLE' was not decla red in this scope /usr/ports/net/krdc/work/krdc-4.12.5/vnc/vncclientthread.cpp:616: error: 'TCP_KEEPINTVL' was not decl ared in this scope
Re: kde4 packages, WITHOUT_NEW_XORG fails
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Patrick Powell papow...@astart.com wrote: I have run into a problem trying to recompile the KDE4 packages with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG=YES. From the CHANGES file: 20140416: AFFECTS: users of x11/xorg graphics/dri graphics/libGL and related ports AUTHOR: x...@freebsd.org The default xorg version has been switched on FreeBSD 10-STABLE and FreeBSD 9-STABLE. To upgrade graphics/libGL, graphics/dri and related MESA ports, it is necessary to first remove the old versions of those ports. No special upgrade procedure is needed for xorg ports but it is necessary to recompile all xorg drivers (xf86-*) and other ports that depend on the xserver version, including emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions. Portrevisions have been bumped where needed, but users of drivers not in the ports tree will need to recompile those. If it is important to stay on the old versions, it is possible to specify WITHOUT_NEW_XORG= in /etc/make.conf to get the old xorg distribution. My make.conf file: WITH_PKGNG=yes WITHOUT_NEW_XORG=yes I did portsnap fetch update, and then did: # cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4 # make missing /tmp/missing_files I massaged the /tmp/missing_files to use pkg to try to download a package if it was in the repository. If they were not, I then tried to use 'make BATCH=YES install' to compile and install the port. Unfortunately, many ports have been updated with calls to the Mesa API that do not exist in the WITHOUT_NEW_XORG version of Mesa. As a result, you can no longer build/run recent version of those ports WITHOUT_NEW_XORG. KDE is probably the bast known of these. That leaves two options: 1. Move to the new Xorg versions (which may not support some older hardware) 2. Use an old (and possibly vulnerable) version of KDE The Xorg and KDE folks simply don't provide any other options that I am aware of. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kde4 packages, WITHOUT_NEW_XORG fails
On 07/04/14 09:56, Kevin Oberman wrote: On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Patrick Powell papow...@astart.com mailto:papow...@astart.com wrote: I have run into a problem trying to recompile the KDE4 packages with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG=YES. From the CHANGES file: 20140416: AFFECTS: users of x11/xorg graphics/dri graphics/libGL and related ports AUTHOR: x...@freebsd.org The default xorg version has been switched on FreeBSD 10-STABLE and FreeBSD 9-STABLE. To upgrade graphics/libGL, graphics/dri and related MESA ports, it is necessary to first remove the old versions of those ports. No special upgrade procedure is needed for xorg ports but it is necessary to recompile all xorg drivers (xf86-*) and other ports that depend on the xserver version, including emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions. Portrevisions have been bumped where needed, but users of drivers not in the ports tree will need to recompile those. If it is important to stay on the old versions, it is possible to specify WITHOUT_NEW_XORG= in /etc/make.conf to get the old xorg distribution. My make.conf file: WITH_PKGNG=yes WITHOUT_NEW_XORG=yes I did portsnap fetch update, and then did: # cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4 # make missing /tmp/missing_files I massaged the /tmp/missing_files to use pkg to try to download a package if it was in the repository. If they were not, I then tried to use 'make BATCH=YES install' to compile and install the port. Unfortunately, many ports have been updated with calls to the Mesa API that do not exist in the WITHOUT_NEW_XORG version of Mesa. As a result, you can no longer build/run recent version of those ports WITHOUT_NEW_XORG. KDE is probably the bast known of these. That leaves two options: 1. Move to the new Xorg versions (which may not support some older hardware) 2. Use an old (and possibly vulnerable) version of KDE The Xorg and KDE folks simply don't provide any other options that I am aware of. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com mailto:rkober...@gmail.com OK, then could they please update the CHANGES file and state that? And/or put a warning in the UPDATING or CHANGES ports file: WITHOUT_NEW_XORG option not supported I appreciate the problems, I was just hoping that there was a trivial solution to them... ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kde4 packages, WITHOUT_NEW_XORG fails
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Patrick Powell papow...@astart.com wrote: On 07/04/14 09:56, Kevin Oberman wrote: On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Patrick Powell papow...@astart.com wrote: I have run into a problem trying to recompile the KDE4 packages with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG=YES. From the CHANGES file: 20140416: AFFECTS: users of x11/xorg graphics/dri graphics/libGL and related ports AUTHOR: x...@freebsd.org The default xorg version has been switched on FreeBSD 10-STABLE and FreeBSD 9-STABLE. To upgrade graphics/libGL, graphics/dri and related MESA ports, it is necessary to first remove the old versions of those ports. No special upgrade procedure is needed for xorg ports but it is necessary to recompile all xorg drivers (xf86-*) and other ports that depend on the xserver version, including emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions. Portrevisions have been bumped where needed, but users of drivers not in the ports tree will need to recompile those. If it is important to stay on the old versions, it is possible to specify WITHOUT_NEW_XORG= in /etc/make.conf to get the old xorg distribution. My make.conf file: WITH_PKGNG=yes WITHOUT_NEW_XORG=yes I did portsnap fetch update, and then did: # cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4 # make missing /tmp/missing_files I massaged the /tmp/missing_files to use pkg to try to download a package if it was in the repository. If they were not, I then tried to use 'make BATCH=YES install' to compile and install the port. Unfortunately, many ports have been updated with calls to the Mesa API that do not exist in the WITHOUT_NEW_XORG version of Mesa. As a result, you can no longer build/run recent version of those ports WITHOUT_NEW_XORG. KDE is probably the bast known of these. That leaves two options: 1. Move to the new Xorg versions (which may not support some older hardware) 2. Use an old (and possibly vulnerable) version of KDE The Xorg and KDE folks simply don't provide any other options that I am aware of. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com OK, then could they please update the CHANGES file and state that? And/or put a warning in the UPDATING or CHANGES ports file: WITHOUT_NEW_XORG option not supported I appreciate the problems, I was just hoping that there was a trivial solution to them... I have no commit bit, but perhaps someone who does will put a note in CHANGES. I certainly think it would be a good idea. This discussion begs the question of why won't WITH_NEW_XORG work for you? I am aware of some pretty old hardware that simply has no support in recent Xorg servers, but these are pretty old by now. And, as time passes, the bit rot will make more and more things fail with the old code. I am far from an X expert, but a post to x11@ of the failure you see WITH_NEW_XORG including the Xorg.0.log, /etc/make.conf, /etc/src.conf and any Xorg.conf you are using might get things working (and might not). x11@ is a far better place to ask any of the questions about X issues. I should also recommend that, if you have not already tried, move your Xorg.conf aside and let X try to configure itself. It is very rare to require a full configuration these days. Most only need things for added fonts and extra modules. The xorg.conf on my laptop is only about 27 lines long and mostly added fonts. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kde4 packages, WITHOUT_NEW_XORG fails
On 4-7-2014 22:49, Kevin Oberman wrote: On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Patrick Powell papow...@astart.com wrote: On 07/04/14 09:56, Kevin Oberman wrote: On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Patrick Powell papow...@astart.com wrote: I have run into a problem trying to recompile the KDE4 packages with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG=YES. From the CHANGES file: 20140416: AFFECTS: users of x11/xorg graphics/dri graphics/libGL and related ports AUTHOR: x...@freebsd.org The default xorg version has been switched on FreeBSD 10-STABLE and FreeBSD 9-STABLE. To upgrade graphics/libGL, graphics/dri and related MESA ports, it is necessary to first remove the old versions of those ports. No special upgrade procedure is needed for xorg ports but it is necessary to recompile all xorg drivers (xf86-*) and other ports that depend on the xserver version, including emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions. Portrevisions have been bumped where needed, but users of drivers not in the ports tree will need to recompile those. If it is important to stay on the old versions, it is possible to specify WITHOUT_NEW_XORG= in /etc/make.conf to get the old xorg distribution. My make.conf file: WITH_PKGNG=yes WITHOUT_NEW_XORG=yes I did portsnap fetch update, and then did: # cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4 # make missing /tmp/missing_files I massaged the /tmp/missing_files to use pkg to try to download a package if it was in the repository. If they were not, I then tried to use 'make BATCH=YES install' to compile and install the port. Unfortunately, many ports have been updated with calls to the Mesa API that do not exist in the WITHOUT_NEW_XORG version of Mesa. As a result, you can no longer build/run recent version of those ports WITHOUT_NEW_XORG. KDE is probably the bast known of these. That leaves two options: 1. Move to the new Xorg versions (which may not support some older hardware) 2. Use an old (and possibly vulnerable) version of KDE The Xorg and KDE folks simply don't provide any other options that I am aware of. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com OK, then could they please update the CHANGES file and state that? And/or put a warning in the UPDATING or CHANGES ports file: WITHOUT_NEW_XORG option not supported I appreciate the problems, I was just hoping that there was a trivial solution to them... I have no commit bit, but perhaps someone who does will put a note in CHANGES. I certainly think it would be a good idea. This discussion begs the question of why won't WITH_NEW_XORG work for you? I am aware of some pretty old hardware that simply has no support in recent Xorg servers, but these are pretty old by now. And, as time passes, the bit rot will make more and more things fail with the old code. I am far from an X expert, but a post to x11@ of the failure you see WITH_NEW_XORG including the Xorg.0.log, /etc/make.conf, /etc/src.conf and any Xorg.conf you are using might get things working (and might not). x11@ is a far better place to ask any of the questions about X issues. I should also recommend that, if you have not already tried, move your Xorg.conf aside and let X try to configure itself. It is very rare to require a full configuration these days. Most only need things for added fonts and extra modules. The xorg.conf on my laptop is only about 27 lines long and mostly added fonts. ports/UPDATING states: 20140218: AFFECTS: users of KDE SC 4 AUTHOR: k...@freebsd.org KDE SC ports have been updated to 4.12.2. kdeadmin, kdenetwork, kdesdk, and kdetoys ports have been split due to upstream changes. KDE Workspace port has been updated to 4.11.6. It requires modern Mesa libraries, provided by WITH_NEW_XORG knob. To update Xorg ports to newer version follow instructions at https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics So it not possible anymore to run KDE4 with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG. -Koop ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kde4 packages, WITHOUT_NEW_XORG fails
On 07/04/14 14:23, Koop Mast wrote: On 4-7-2014 22:49, Kevin Oberman wrote: On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Patrick Powell papow...@astart.com wrote: On 07/04/14 09:56, Kevin Oberman wrote: On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Patrick Powell papow...@astart.com wrote: I have run into a problem trying to recompile the KDE4 packages with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG=YES. From the CHANGES file: 20140416: AFFECTS: users of x11/xorg graphics/dri graphics/libGL and related ports AUTHOR: x...@freebsd.org The default xorg version has been switched on FreeBSD 10-STABLE and FreeBSD 9-STABLE. To upgrade graphics/libGL, graphics/dri and related MESA ports, it is necessary to first remove the old versions of those ports. No special upgrade procedure is needed for xorg ports but it is necessary to recompile all xorg drivers (xf86-*) and other ports that depend on the xserver version, including emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions. Portrevisions have been bumped where needed, but users of drivers not in the ports tree will need to recompile those. If it is important to stay on the old versions, it is possible to specify WITHOUT_NEW_XORG= in /etc/make.conf to get the old xorg distribution. My make.conf file: WITH_PKGNG=yes WITHOUT_NEW_XORG=yes I did portsnap fetch update, and then did: # cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4 # make missing /tmp/missing_files I massaged the /tmp/missing_files to use pkg to try to download a package if it was in the repository. If they were not, I then tried to use 'make BATCH=YES install' to compile and install the port. Unfortunately, many ports have been updated with calls to the Mesa API that do not exist in the WITHOUT_NEW_XORG version of Mesa. As a result, you can no longer build/run recent version of those ports WITHOUT_NEW_XORG. KDE is probably the bast known of these. That leaves two options: 1. Move to the new Xorg versions (which may not support some older hardware) 2. Use an old (and possibly vulnerable) version of KDE The Xorg and KDE folks simply don't provide any other options that I am aware of. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com OK, then could they please update the CHANGES file and state that? And/or put a warning in the UPDATING or CHANGES ports file: WITHOUT_NEW_XORG option not supported I appreciate the problems, I was just hoping that there was a trivial solution to them... I have no commit bit, but perhaps someone who does will put a note in CHANGES. I certainly think it would be a good idea. This discussion begs the question of why won't WITH_NEW_XORG work for you? I am aware of some pretty old hardware that simply has no support in recent Xorg servers, but these are pretty old by now. And, as time passes, the bit rot will make more and more things fail with the old code. I am far from an X expert, but a post to x11@ of the failure you see WITH_NEW_XORG including the Xorg.0.log, /etc/make.conf, /etc/src.conf and any Xorg.conf you are using might get things working (and might not). x11@ is a far better place to ask any of the questions about X issues. I should also recommend that, if you have not already tried, move your Xorg.conf aside and let X try to configure itself. It is very rare to require a full configuration these days. Most only need things for added fonts and extra modules. The xorg.conf on my laptop is only about 27 lines long and mostly added fonts. ports/UPDATING states: 20140218: AFFECTS: users of KDE SC 4 AUTHOR: k...@freebsd.org KDE SC ports have been updated to 4.12.2. kdeadmin, kdenetwork, kdesdk, and kdetoys ports have been split due to upstream changes. KDE Workspace port has been updated to 4.11.6. It requires modern Mesa libraries, provided by WITH_NEW_XORG knob. To update Xorg ports to newer version follow instructions at https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics So it not possible anymore to run KDE4 with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG. -Koop Ahhh!!! I missed that. If this is the case, then perhaps the default for generating the PKGNG repository should be WITH_NEW_XORG? Then we could use the PKGNG respository for KDE4 applications. OR: we could have two repositories: one which uses WITHOUT_NEW_XORG and has the old Xorg drivers and no KDE4 support and one with WITH_NEW_XORG which has the new Xorg drivers and KDE4 support. I think I read some discussion about this possibility but I can't recall the outcome. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kde4 packages, WITHOUT_NEW_XORG fails
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Patrick Powell papow...@astart.com wrote: On 07/04/14 14:23, Koop Mast wrote: [...] On 4-7-2014 22:49, Kevin Oberman wrote: This discussion begs the question of why won't WITH_NEW_XORG work for you? I am aware of some pretty old hardware that simply has no support in recent Xorg servers, but these are pretty old by now. And, as time passes, the bit rot will make more and more things fail with the old code. I am far from an X expert, but a post to x11@ of the failure you see WITH_NEW_XORG including the Xorg.0.log, /etc/make.conf, /etc/src.conf and any Xorg.conf you are using might get things working (and might not). x11@ is a far better place to ask any of the questions about X issues. I should also recommend that, if you have not already tried, move your Xorg.conf aside and let X try to configure itself. It is very rare to require a full configuration these days. Most only need things for added fonts and extra modules. The xorg.conf on my laptop is only about 27 lines long and mostly added fonts. ports/UPDATING states: 20140218: AFFECTS: users of KDE SC 4 AUTHOR: k...@freebsd.org KDE SC ports have been updated to 4.12.2. kdeadmin, kdenetwork, kdesdk, and kdetoys ports have been split due to upstream changes. KDE Workspace port has been updated to 4.11.6. It requires modern Mesa libraries, provided by WITH_NEW_XORG knob. To update Xorg ports to newer version follow instructions at https://wiki.freebsd.org/ Graphics So it not possible anymore to run KDE4 with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG. -Koop Ahhh!!! I missed that. If this is the case, then perhaps the default for generating the PKGNG repository should be WITH_NEW_XORG? Then we could use the PKGNG respository for KDE4 applications. OR: we could have two repositories: one which uses WITHOUT_NEW_XORG and has the old Xorg drivers and no KDE4 support and one with WITH_NEW_XORG which has the new Xorg drivers and KDE4 support. I think I read some discussion about this possibility but I can't recall the outcome. Your timing is MOST excellent. Koop just announced those repositories were available a few hours ago. http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=306646+0+current/freebsd-announce The repositories cover 9.x and 10.x for i386 and amd64. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
