Re: teTeX/TeXLive: powerdot still missing ...

2008-09-19 Thread Alexey Shuvaev
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 02:03:01PM +, O. Hartmann wrote:
 Still using teTeX, but as we all know, development has been canceld by  
 Thomas Esser. I'm looking for a working 'powerdot' which is part of  
 TeXLive now, but there is no TeXLive-port available for FreeBSD.  
 Searching for that matter brings up some informations released a year  
 ago and I'm wondering about the fact that there is no support for 
 FreeBSD.
 Is there a workaround or 'master plan' how to bring TeXLive to a FreeBSD  
 bx in a clean way? Can TeXLive coexists with teTeX.

Not about porting TeXLive to FreeBSD actually.
After a quick look at 'powerdot' class I can suggest you using 'beamer'
as a workaround. It is in the teTeX.
Porting of TeXLive is a todo anyway, I think.

Alexey.
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Re: teTeX/TeXLive: powerdot still missing ...

2008-09-19 Thread Diego Depaoli
2008/9/19 Alexey Shuvaev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 02:03:01PM +, O. Hartmann wrote:
 Still using teTeX, but as we all know, development has been canceld by
 Thomas Esser. I'm looking for a working 'powerdot' which is part of
 TeXLive now, but there is no TeXLive-port available for FreeBSD.
 Searching for that matter brings up some informations released a year
 ago and I'm wondering about the fact that there is no support for
 FreeBSD.
 Is there a workaround or 'master plan' how to bring TeXLive to a FreeBSD
 bx in a clean way? Can TeXLive coexists with teTeX.

 Not about porting TeXLive to FreeBSD actually.
 After a quick look at 'powerdot' class I can suggest you using 'beamer'
 as a workaround.
or ConTeXT which provides support for FreeBSD.

Regards
--
Diego Depaoli
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Re: teTeX/TeXLive: powerdot still missing ...

2008-09-19 Thread Pietro Cerutti

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O. Hartmann wrote:
| Still using teTeX, but as we all know, development has been canceld by
| Thomas Esser. I'm looking for a working 'powerdot' which is part of
| TeXLive now, but there is no TeXLive-port available for FreeBSD.
| Searching for that matter brings up some informations released a year
| ago and I'm wondering about the fact that there is no support for FreeBSD.
| Is there a workaround or 'master plan' how to bring TeXLive to a FreeBSD
| bx in a clean way? Can TeXLive coexists with teTeX.
|
| Thank you very much for your patience ...

Hi Oliver,

I currently have a local working installation of TeXLive. However, there
are a few problems which prevent me to commit the port to the ports tree.

I am planning to gather feedback and do something about it in the near
future, so stay tuned :)

| Regards,
Best regards,

| Oliver

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teTeX/TeXLive: powerdot still missing ...

2008-09-18 Thread O. Hartmann
Still using teTeX, but as we all know, development has been canceld by 
Thomas Esser. I'm looking for a working 'powerdot' which is part of 
TeXLive now, but there is no TeXLive-port available for FreeBSD. 
Searching for that matter brings up some informations released a year 
ago and I'm wondering about the fact that there is no support for FreeBSD.
Is there a workaround or 'master plan' how to bring TeXLive to a FreeBSD 
bx in a clean way? Can TeXLive coexists with teTeX.


Thank you very much for your patience ...

Regards,
Oliver
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Re: powerdot

2007-07-26 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:38:25 -0700
Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Victor,
Hi Predrag,
( My name is @ end of this email...the quote was from Victor Hugo :) )

 I apologize if I offended anybody. I had best of intentions when I send 
 the first mail.

all good :) 

 I wish, I had knowledge to do the port myself. It never thought of that 
 but could you direct me to a documents from which I could learn how to 
 do ports

You can check the porters handbook : 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html

This document should also be available locally in your FreeBSD installation - 
mine is in (EN version) /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook

If I understand correctly from the latest emails on the *tex ports, it seems 
like it is a very big job. It may be a good idea to start with a smaller port 
to get used to it first.

Best,
_
{Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome

The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into 
greatness...
 This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first 
appears he is a protector.
   Plato

I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. 
Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been 
Warned.
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Re: powerdot

2007-07-26 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Norberto Meijome wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:05:52 -0700
Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
Well, I hope that they are aware but it seems that nobody is acting on 
these issues(or at least not fast enough).



Predrag, 
as good as your intentions seem to be, the results  would be better if you  provided help porting the apps you are interested in, or testing them, or helping.in the lists, or donating money to developers / ports / FreeBSD Foundation. Maybe you do already, and we thank you for that.


In the meantime, you and many of us will have to wait patiently for those that 
are generous enough and have the time to provide the resources 
(code/fixes/ports) for us to use FreeBSD for fun and profit.

Best regards,
_
{Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome

 An invasion of armies can be resisted, 
  but not an idea whose time has come.

  Victor Hugo

I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. 
Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been 
Warned.
  

Dear Victor,
I apologize if I offended anybody. I had best of intentions when I send 
the first mail.
I wish, I had knowledge to do the port myself. It never thought of that 
but could you direct me to a documents from which I could learn how to 
do ports.


Sincerely,
Predrag Punosevac
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Re: powerdot

2007-07-25 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:05:52 -0700
Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, I hope that they are aware but it seems that nobody is acting on 
 these issues(or at least not fast enough).

Predrag, 
as good as your intentions seem to be, the results  would be better if you  
provided help porting the apps you are interested in, or testing them, or 
helping.in the lists, or donating money to developers / ports / FreeBSD 
Foundation. Maybe you do already, and we thank you for that.

In the meantime, you and many of us will have to wait patiently for those that 
are generous enough and have the time to provide the resources 
(code/fixes/ports) for us to use FreeBSD for fun and profit.

Best regards,
_
{Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome

 An invasion of armies can be resisted, 
  but not an idea whose time has come.
  Victor Hugo

I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. 
Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been 
Warned.
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powerdot

2007-07-24 Thread Predrag Punosevac
I would like to bring to your attention the fact that there is a new 
(actually about 3 years old) Latex class of presentations called 
powerdot which replaces obsolete  and baggy class of presentations 
called prosper  (comprehensive information about all Latex classes of 
slide presentations can be found at 
http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/bytopic.html#present).


Prosper is ported for a very long time, beamer another popular class of 
presentations is ported as well. However powerdot is not ported. The 
advantages of powerdot over beamer are plentiful
(starting with the fact that manual is about 60 pages vs beamer manual 
400pages). The only reason that beamer seems to gain more popularity is 
that fact that can be directly compiled by pdflatex while powerdot 
requires texdvipspdf. This is really not a problem since most 
integrated tex environments allow users to set the option texdvipspdf 
for compiling.


On the same note I believe that the issue of the porting of TeXLive 
(light version of course) should be reconsidered not just because of the 
fact that TeXLive includes powerdot and beamer as a standard packages 
but because teTeX will not exist for to much longer (I am not sure if 
you are familiar with the fact that teTeX is winding down activities and 
that LiveTeX is becoming standard *nix distribution).


Sincerely,
Predrag Punosevac
Department of Mathematics
The University of Arizona
(520) 578-9861
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Re: powerdot

2007-07-24 Thread Nikola Lecic
Hello Predrag,

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:02:56 -0700
Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would like to bring to your attention the fact that there is a new 
 (actually about 3 years old) Latex class of presentations called 
 powerdot which replaces obsolete  and baggy class of presentations 
 called prosper  (comprehensive information about all Latex classes of 
 slide presentations can be found at 
 http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/bytopic.html#present).
 
 Prosper is ported for a very long time, beamer another popular class
 of presentations is ported as well. However powerdot is not ported.
 The advantages of powerdot over beamer are plentiful
 (starting with the fact that manual is about 60 pages vs beamer
 manual 400pages). The only reason that beamer seems to gain more
 popularity is that fact that can be directly compiled by pdflatex
 while powerdot requires texdvipspdf. This is really not a problem
 since most integrated tex environments allow users to set the option
 texdvipspdf for compiling.
 
 On the same note I believe that the issue of the porting of TeXLive 
 (light version of course) should be reconsidered [...]

Nobody thinks that TeXLive shouldn't be ported :) What do you mean by
light version?

 not just because of the fact that TeXLive includes powerdot and
 beamer as a standard packages but because teTeX will not exist for to
 much longer (I am not sure if you are familiar with the fact that
 teTeX is winding down activities and that LiveTeX is becoming
 standard *nix distribution).

There was a small discussion related to porting TeXLive to FreeBSD 3-4
days ago, please see the archives; I'm personally interested to see it
ported (and to help), too. AFAIK hrs@ is working on it, but still no
answer from him.

Nikola Lečić
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Re: powerdot

2007-07-24 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Nikola Lecic wrote:



Nobody thinks that TeXLive shouldn't be ported :) What do you mean by
light version?

  
One of original arguments for not porting TeXLive was that the program 
is simply to big
(over 1Gb). Having downloaded TeXLive (binaries only) on several 
occasions for my friends over DSL I can confess that that is really the 
case (at least 3 hours for binaries over 1.5Mps DSL connection) .
I purpose that the program be ported in the style of Gnome. Light strip 
down version which would

be the minimal fully functional configuration,
full (English language) version with all bells, and then another port 
with the support for different languages, another port Music part of the 
TeXLive etc. The idea of dividing the port is just initial and should be 
more carefully considered by the people who know more about various 
aspects of TeX that I do not use.

Sincerely,
Predrag Punosevac
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Re: powerdot

2007-07-24 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Nikola Lecic wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:15:57 -0700
Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Nikola Lecic wrote:


Nobody thinks that TeXLive shouldn't be ported :) What do you mean
by light version?

  
  

One of original arguments for not porting TeXLive was that the
program is simply to big
(over 1Gb). Having downloaded TeXLive (binaries only) on several 
occasions for my friends over DSL I can confess that that is really

the case (at least 3 hours for binaries over 1.5Mps DSL connection) .



Binaries are 38M:

  % du -sh /usr/local/texlive/2007/bin/i386-freebsd/
   38M/usr/local/texlive/2007/bin/i386-freebsd/

(~270 binaries).

texmf-dist/: common, platform-independent resources: 972M
texmf-doc/: 136M

  

I purpose that the program be ported in the style of Gnome. Light
strip down version which would
be the minimal fully functional configuration,
full (English language) version with all bells, and then another
port with the support for different languages, another port Music
part of the TeXLive etc.



Well, yes, of course, this is the way it was done where TeXLive was
ported (OpenBSD, Debian...): as modularised as possible.

  

The idea of dividing the port is just
initial and should be more carefully considered by the people who
know more about various aspects of TeX that I do not use.



What makes you think they are not aware of this?

Nikola Lečić
  
Well, I hope that they are aware but it seems that nobody is acting on 
these issues(or at least not fast enough).


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