File owner name not updated.

2003-03-25 Thread Kevin Stevens
I had this problem several months ago, submitted a bug report on it, 
and promptly forgot about it.  I'm now seeing the same issue in 5.0, 
and want to delve a little deeper to see if this is expected behavior 
or not.

I created a user, let's call him fred, which was assigned uid 503.  The 
user directory was created and assigned to owner fred and group wheel.  
All ok.  Later that evening, root changed the uid for fred to 502 (for 
compatibility with other systems).  The problem isn't that the 
directory owner didn't automatically change to uid 502 - I expected to 
have to change it manually.  What I wasn't prepared for is that a ls 
-al still showed the owner as fred, which was now assigned to uid 502.  
ls -lan properly showed the owner as still being 503.

So, I'm open to correction, but it seems to me that something's broken. 
 If user fred used to be 503, but is now 502 (there is no user 503 
now), I don't see how it can be correct for ls to still report fred as 
the owner of files/directories.  I expected the reporting to change to 
just show the numeric uid, but I'm not picky about that.

I have no idea whether this is a problem with the ls command, with the 
filesystem, with some index of ownership/permissions, or something else 
entirely.  Suggestions?

KeS

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Re: File owner name not updated.

2003-03-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:55:03PM -0800, Kevin Stevens wrote:
 I had this problem several months ago, submitted a bug report on it, 
 and promptly forgot about it.  I'm now seeing the same issue in 5.0, 
 and want to delve a little deeper to see if this is expected behavior 
 or not.
 
 I created a user, let's call him fred, which was assigned uid 503.  The 
 user directory was created and assigned to owner fred and group wheel.  
 All ok.  Later that evening, root changed the uid for fred to 502 (for 
 compatibility with other systems).  The problem isn't that the 
 directory owner didn't automatically change to uid 502 - I expected to 
 have to change it manually.  What I wasn't prepared for is that a ls 
 -al still showed the owner as fred, which was now assigned to uid 502.  
 ls -lan properly showed the owner as still being 503.
 
 So, I'm open to correction, but it seems to me that something's broken. 
  If user fred used to be 503, but is now 502 (there is no user 503 
 now), I don't see how it can be correct for ls to still report fred as 
 the owner of files/directories.  I expected the reporting to change to 
 just show the numeric uid, but I'm not picky about that.
 
 I have no idea whether this is a problem with the ls command, with the 
 filesystem, with some index of ownership/permissions, or something else 
 entirely.  Suggestions?

Two things occur to me:

i) Did root use vipw(8) to edit the passwd database, or otherwise
   run:

# cap_mkdb /etc/master.passwd

   when the UID was changed?  It's the value in the hashed
   database cap_mkdb(1) builds that is used by the system.
   Updating that should have instantaneous effect.

   ii) You haven't said anything about what the source of your
   password data is, which probably means you're just using the
   flat file password database and not anything like NIS or LDAP.
   If you are using a distributed database, then a degree of
   latency while changes get propagated around the servers is to
   be expected.  However, that shouldn't take any more than a few
   minutes in a well configured system.

The problem is not with the ls(1) command per se.  It's the underlying
system library functions such as getpwuid(3) which do the translation
between numeric UIDs and usernames that are the seat of the problem.
You can see that by running some other command that uses getpwuid(3), eg:

% perl -e 'print scalar getpwuid(503), \n;'

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: File owner name not updated.

2003-03-25 Thread Kevin Stevens
On Tuesday, Mar 25, 2003, at 23:29 US/Pacific, Matthew Seaman wrote:

Two things occur to me:

i) Did root use vipw(8) to edit the passwd database, or otherwise
   run:
# cap_mkdb /etc/master.passwd

   when the UID was changed?  It's the value in the hashed
   database cap_mkdb(1) builds that is used by the system.
   Updating that should have instantaneous effect.
Just used the pw command.  However, note that this symptom persisted 
for over 24 hours.  Last time it happened (on a 4.7 system) it 
persisted for several days if I recall, before I noticed/corrected it.

   ii) You haven't said anything about what the source of your
   password data is, which probably means you're just using the
   flat file password database and not anything like NIS or LDAP.
Correct.

   If you are using a distributed database, then a degree of
   latency while changes get propagated around the servers is to
   be expected.  However, that shouldn't take any more than a few
   minutes in a well configured system.
Right, and this is a standalone system (which is why I'm manually 
syncing up the uids in the first place).

The problem is not with the ls(1) command per se.  It's the underlying
system library functions such as getpwuid(3) which do the translation
between numeric UIDs and usernames that are the seat of the problem.
You can see that by running some other command that uses getpwuid(3), 
eg:

% perl -e 'print scalar getpwuid(503), \n;'
Got it.  I think what I'll do is create a dummy user with the same 
conditions and let it persist for awhile so we can experiment with it.

KeS

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Re: File owner name not updated.

2003-03-25 Thread Kevin Stevens
On Tuesday, Mar 25, 2003, at 23:29 US/Pacific, Matthew Seaman wrote:

Two things occur to me:

i) Did root use vipw(8) to edit the passwd database, or otherwise
   run:
# cap_mkdb /etc/master.passwd

   when the UID was changed?  It's the value in the hashed
   database cap_mkdb(1) builds that is used by the system.
   Updating that should have instantaneous effect.
Just tried running that after creating a dummy user and changing his 
uid from 1005 to 1010.  No change.

The problem is not with the ls(1) command per se.  It's the underlying
system library functions such as getpwuid(3) which do the translation
between numeric UIDs and usernames that are the seat of the problem.
You can see that by running some other command that uses getpwuid(3), 
eg:

% perl -e 'print scalar getpwuid(503), \n;'
bash-2.05b# perl -e 'print scalar getpwuid(1010), \n;'
fred
bash-2.05b# perl -e 'print scalar getpwuid(1005), \n;'
fred
bash-2.05b# grep fred /etc/master.passwd
fred:*:1010:1005:User :/home/fred:/bin/sh
KeS

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rl(4): autoselect/manual media == no carrier at boot time?

2003-03-25 Thread Olivier Dony
Hello, that's me again :)

rl0: RealTek 8139 10/100BaseTX port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xdf00-0xdfff irq 10 
at device 5.0 on pci0
rl0: Realtek 8139B detected. Warning, this may be unstable in autoselect mode
 ^^   ^^
This is my detected NIC. It has always been detecting 100baseTX half-duplex,
when I am actually plugged into a cool 100Mbps switch. So after a couple of
tests, I decided that full-duplex was going fine and appended media 100baseTX
mediaopt full-duplex to the ifconfig_rl0 line in my rc.conf, just in case.
The card was actually working fine in this mode. Also given that rl(4) isn't
so happy with autoselect mode if the proper PHY chip is not present (or
something), I thought this would be a good thing.

Now it happened that the server rebooted after a kernel panic (this is 5.0, I
will be taking *this* subject to -current), but the problem here is that rl(4)
detected no carrier :
kernel: rl0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
kernel: inet 666.666.222.35 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 666.666.222.255
kernel: ether 00:50:fc:97:41:b4 
kernel: media: Ethernet 100baseTX full-duplex
kernel: status: no carrier 

My ISP says that they have not touched the UTP cable. After they rebooted the
server again while trying to find why it was down, the same no carrier
appears in the dmesg, so after a normal boot too. They claim that after this
second reboot they unplugged and then plugged back the UTP connection and the
NIC's led came to life and the network was up again (and still is, 
full-duplex).

My question is, is it possible that setting the media to 100baseTX
full-duplex could cause problems for carrier detection at boot time? Or is
my ISP lying and they unplugged the network just right during the kernel panic
and only plugged it back after a while? This doesn't sound likely...
I do not feel like rebooting again right now just to see if using autoselect
works, I'd rather not have to call them today to fix it once more ;-)

Thanks in advance

Olivier, always learning more thanks to you!

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Re: rl(4): autoselect/manual media == no carrier at boot time?

2003-03-25 Thread Alexander Haderer
At 15:01 25.03.2003 +0100, Olivier Dony wrote:
Hello, that's me again :)
[... realtek has no carrier...]
My question is, is it possible that setting the media to 100baseTX
full-duplex could cause problems for carrier detection at boot time? Or is
my ISP lying and they unplugged the network just right during the kernel panic
and only plugged it back after a while? This doesn't sound likely...
I do not feel like rebooting again right now just to see if using autoselect
works, I'd rather not have to call them today to fix it once more ;-)
Sounds like that at the other end of the patchcable autoselect still is 
active and is unable to agree with the fixed media realtek card. So I 
would suggest to check the router/switch at the other end of the patchcable 
and to also switch off autoselect there. tcpblast from the ports is a handy 
tool to check tcp troughput. To be on the safe side you should tcpblast in 
both directions. Expect about 10 Mbytes/s with no other network load.

Btw.: I have no experience with Realtek hardware, so there may be other 
things here causing the error.

with best regards

Alexander

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Re: gcc bug?

2003-03-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 09:25:41PM -0800, milo wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 09:00:30PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
  Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 21:00:30 -0800
  From: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: milo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: gcc bug?
  
  On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 08:36:05PM -0800, milo wrote:
   
   so i need to build/install gcc first before can build the rest?
   
   i'm not sure how to just build contrib/gcc. i tried make contrib/gcc; make 
   install contrib/gcc but failed in lib/libcom_err.
  
  Update your entire source tree and perform the upgrade procedure
  documented in the handbook.
 that's what i did and am trying to do but failing as i reported to begin with.

OK, It wasn't clear to me that's what you were doing.

 supposedly because my gcc is one minor revision behind, libbz2 won't build.
 so i'm trying to rebuild gcc.

This is not necessary, because gcc is rebuilt early in the buildworld
process and the new version is automatically used thereafter.  If
you're having compiler failures it's probably due to failing hardware
and not a bug in FreeBSD.

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Re: [PATCH2] PPP in -direct mode does not execute any chat scripts

2003-03-25 Thread Brian Somers
Hi,

Yes, this looks fine, although I think this shows that the -direct
description is wrong.  Perhaps this is more appropriate:

-direct
   This is used for communicating over an already established connection,
   usually when receiving incoming connections accepted by getty(8).  ppp
   ignores the ``set device'' line and uses descriptor 0 as the link.  ppp
   will ignore any configured chat scripts unless the ``force-scripts''
   option has been enabled.

   If callback

Do you agree with this description ?  If so, I'll go ahead and commit the
changes.  Just to be picky, I'll re-sort the OPT_ variables too :*P

And thanks for the patches.

On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:45:37 -0800, Maksim Yevmenkin wrote:
 Dear Brian and Hackers,
 
 Please find updated proposed version of the patch. As suggested by
 Warner option has been renamed to 'force-sripts' and now works for
 both 'direct' and 'dedicated' modes. Also as suggested by Terry the
 man page has been updated to document side effect of 'direct'.
 
 -direct
This is used for receiving incoming connections.  ppp ignores the
``set device'' line and uses descriptor 0 as the link.  ppp will
never use any configured chat scripts unless ``force-scripts''
option has been enabled.
 
If callback is configured, ppp will use the ``set device'' infor-
mation when dialing back.
 
 -dedicated
This option is designed for machines connected with a dedicated
wire.  ppp will always keep the device open and will never use
any configured chat scripts unless ``force-scripts'' option has
been enabled.
 
 force-scripts
Default: Disabled. Forces execution of the configured chat
scripts in direct and dedicated modes.
 
 Please find attached patch that adds new option to the PPP.
 
 run-scripts-in-direct-mode
 Default: Disabled. This allows to run chat scripts in
 direct mode.
 
 did i miss anything? objections? comments? reviews?
  
  
  First comment: run it past Brian Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED]; it's
  his baby, and he's the active maintainer.
 
 I have sent him e-mail.
 
  Rest of comments:
  
  Actually, why doesn't -direct allow a chat script by default?
  The man page doesn't document that as a side-effect of -direct,
  only of -dedicated, but it's been there since the import.
  
  Should this really be a negotiate section command, rather than
  just a command or a set command?
  
  Also, there are only two other commands even have a - in them,
  and both of them only have one (just seems a little long, compared
  to, say, rsid or direct-with-script, or even force-script).
  
  Personal preference: don't make it conditional on -direct, let
  it also work with -dedicated, and call it force-script or
  something, instead.
 
 done
 
  The man page should be updated -- including the undocumented
  side-effect of -direct disabling scripts).
 
 done
 
 thanks
 max
 


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Re: [OT] file synchronization between two machines

2003-03-25 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 25), Louis LeBlanc said:
 That sounds right, but what if the file last changed on the remote
 machine?  Will rsync copy the newer remote copy to the local machine
 when necessary and copy the newer local copy to the remote machine
 when necessary?  This is the problem, really.  Running rsync on both
 machines won't do any good, because the remote machine can't come
 thru the firewall.

You run it on one machine twice, once for each direction.  From the
manpage:

  To synchronize my samba source trees I use the following:
  rsync -avuzb --exclude '*~' samba:samba/ .
  rsync -Cavuzb . samba:samba/
 

The only drawback is rsync will never delete files; you have to
manually remove them from both machines manually.

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libX11 too old?

2003-03-25 Thread David Banning
compiling gtk2 I get the folllowing error;

checking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11... no
configure: error: *** libX11 not found. Check 'config.log' 

config log states that is looking in the right place;

 $ ./configure --enable-static --x-libraries=/usr/X11R6/lib --x-includes=/usr/X
11R6/include --prefix=/usr/X11R6 --target=i386-unknown-freebsd4.7

and the library is there;

root# ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11*
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  1344166 Feb 27 00:14 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.a
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   11 Mar  7 00:25 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so - libX11.so.6
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   866767 Feb 27 00:14 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6

and ldconfig knows it's there;

root# ldconfig -r | grep libX11
72:-lX11.6 = /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
117:-lX11.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6
root# 




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Re: [OT] file synchronization between two machines

2003-03-25 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 25), John Straiton said:
  The only drawback is rsync will never delete files; you have to 
  manually remove them from both machines manually.
 
 It wouldn't be near as neat a utility if that were true (unless I
 misunderstood your statement).

You might have.  For correct two-way replication, you need a history
file that records the state of the filesystem as of the last time the
replication ran.  Otherwise you won't know whether the file1 is on
serverA but not on ServerB case is due to the user creating a new
file1 on serverA, or deleting an old file1 from ServerB.

Rsync doesn't keep a history file, so all it can do it copy file1 over
to serverB.

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Re: [PATCH2] PPP in -direct mode does not execute any chat scripts

2003-03-25 Thread Maksim Yevmenkin
Hello Brian,

Yes, this looks fine, although I think this shows that the -direct
description is wrong.  Perhaps this is more appropriate:
-direct
   This is used for communicating over an already established connection,
   usually when receiving incoming connections accepted by getty(8).  ppp
   ignores the ``set device'' line and uses descriptor 0 as the link.  ppp
   will ignore any configured chat scripts unless the ``force-scripts''
   option has been enabled.
   If callback

Do you agree with this description ?  If so, I'll go ahead and commit the
yes, this is more accurate description. i missed it.

changes.  Just to be picky, I'll re-sort the OPT_ variables too :*P
no problem :)

And thanks for the patches.
thank you for reviewing them :)
max


On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:45:37 -0800, Maksim Yevmenkin wrote:

Dear Brian and Hackers,

Please find updated proposed version of the patch. As suggested by
Warner option has been renamed to 'force-sripts' and now works for
both 'direct' and 'dedicated' modes. Also as suggested by Terry the
man page has been updated to document side effect of 'direct'.
-direct
  This is used for receiving incoming connections.  ppp ignores the
  ``set device'' line and uses descriptor 0 as the link.  ppp will
  never use any configured chat scripts unless ``force-scripts''
  option has been enabled.
  If callback is configured, ppp will use the ``set device'' infor-
  mation when dialing back.
-dedicated
  This option is designed for machines connected with a dedicated
  wire.  ppp will always keep the device open and will never use
  any configured chat scripts unless ``force-scripts'' option has
  been enabled.
force-scripts
  Default: Disabled. Forces execution of the configured chat
  scripts in direct and dedicated modes.

Please find attached patch that adds new option to the PPP.

run-scripts-in-direct-mode
  Default: Disabled. This allows to run chat scripts in
  direct mode.
did i miss anything? objections? comments? reviews?


First comment: run it past Brian Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED]; it's
his baby, and he's the active maintainer.
I have sent him e-mail.


Rest of comments:

Actually, why doesn't -direct allow a chat script by default?
The man page doesn't document that as a side-effect of -direct,
only of -dedicated, but it's been there since the import.
Should this really be a negotiate section command, rather than
just a command or a set command?
Also, there are only two other commands even have a - in them,
and both of them only have one (just seems a little long, compared
to, say, rsid or direct-with-script, or even force-script).
Personal preference: don't make it conditional on -direct, let
it also work with -dedicated, and call it force-script or
something, instead.
done


The man page should be updated -- including the undocumented
side-effect of -direct disabling scripts).
done

thanks
max





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port to convert comma delimited file

2003-03-25 Thread Dru

Hello,

I have a comma delimited file with approximately 7000 rows and 5 columns.
I have absolutely no database skills and and almost as much HTML skill,
yet I need to convert this file into an HTML table. Is there something in
the ports collection that will do this for me, a sort of converter for
dummies? Barring that, is there any port that will do this, hopefully with
docs so I can learn as I go?

Dru
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Re: port to convert comma delimited file

2003-03-25 Thread Martin Karlsson
* Dru [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-03-25 20.51 -0500]:
 
 Hello,

Hi,

 I have a comma delimited file with approximately 7000 rows and 5 columns.
 I have absolutely no database skills and and almost as much HTML skill,
 yet I need to convert this file into an HTML table. Is there something in
 the ports collection that will do this for me, a sort of converter for
 dummies? Barring that, is there any port that will do this, hopefully with
 docs so I can learn as I go?

I couldn't find anything like that in the ports collection, but there
seems to be alternatives on the web, e.g. csv2html
URL:http://watson-wilson.ca/computer/csv2html.html.

Hint: search the web for csv (comma separated values) and html.

 Dru

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Re: port to convert comma delimited file

2003-03-25 Thread Simon Barner
Hi,

 I have a comma delimited file with approximately 7000 rows and 5 columns.
 I have absolutely no database skills and and almost as much HTML skill,
 yet I need to convert this file into an HTML table. Is there something in
 the ports collection that will do this for me, a sort of converter for
 dummies? Barring that, is there any port that will do this, hopefully with
 docs so I can learn as I go?

You will not need the ports collection.

All you need is the perl programming language, and that's in the base system
(at least, if you are running 4.x, for 5.x you will have to install a port
indeed).

Have a look at the 'split' function.
Your perl script will perform the following algorithm:

print (TABLE);
Read the input file line-wise
   for each line, do the following
  print (TR);
  split the line (with comma as separator) and put the result into an array
  
  for each component of the array (see the 'shift' function)
 print (TD);
 now print the element
 print (/TD);
 
  print (/TR);
  
print (/TABLE);

There are lots of perl tutorials around the 'net, but if you perfer books, I'd
recommend Lerning Perl (Oreily), which I found very helpful.

Btw.: Some perl knowledge can never harm in a UN*X environment. Your task is an
ideal motivation to get to now this mighty language.

Simon


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Re: port to convert comma delimited file

2003-03-25 Thread Dru


On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Martin Karlsson wrote:

 * Dru [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-03-25 20.51 -0500]:
 
  Hello,

 Hi,

  I have a comma delimited file with approximately 7000 rows and 5 columns.
  I have absolutely no database skills and and almost as much HTML skill,
  yet I need to convert this file into an HTML table. Is there something in
  the ports collection that will do this for me, a sort of converter for
  dummies? Barring that, is there any port that will do this, hopefully with
  docs so I can learn as I go?

 I couldn't find anything like that in the ports collection, but there
 seems to be alternatives on the web, e.g. csv2html
 URL:http://watson-wilson.ca/computer/csv2html.html.

 Hint: search the web for csv (comma separated values) and html.


Wow, that was quick. For the curious, the downloadable perl script does
the trick nicely :-)

Dru
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Re: port to convert comma delimited file

2003-03-25 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2003-03-25 20:51, Dru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a comma delimited file with approximately 7000 rows and 5
 columns.  I have absolutely no database skills and and almost as
 much HTML skill, yet I need to convert this file into an HTML
 table. Is there something in the ports collection that will do this
 for me, a sort of converter for dummies? Barring that, is there any
 port that will do this, hopefully with docs so I can learn as I go?

Someone mentioned Perl.  Try the following little Perl snippet:

#!/usr/bin/perl

print TABLE\n;
while (defined($line = STDIN)) {
chomp $line;
print TRTD . join(/TDTD, split(/;/, $line)) .
/TD/TR\n;
}
print /TABLE\n;

Save this to a file called csv2html.pl and then run it like this:

$ perl csv2html.pl  filename.csv  filename.html

The power of Unix as an environment comes from the ability to write
small, throw-away programs like this one, in one of the dozens of
scripting languages that are usually available.  Why hunt for a port
to do something so simple[1] ?

[1] For some definintion of `simple'.

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Re: LVM / Vinum

2003-03-25 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 26), Greg 'groggy' Lehey said:
 On Tuesday, 25 March 2003 at  8:40:26 +, james wrote:
  I'll look into that, but will stick to Vinum for now. I actually
  work for Veritas so it's a shame VM isn't on freebsd :)
 
 What important VxVM functionality is missing in Vinum?

The two things I can think of off the top of my head are full-stripe
writes on RAID-5 plexes, and automatic rebuild of a failed RAID-1 or
RAID-5 disk.

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Re: port to convert comma delimited file

2003-03-25 Thread Simon Barner
 Someone mentioned Perl.  Try the following little Perl snippet:
 
   #!/usr/bin/perl
 
   print TABLE\n;
   while (defined($line = STDIN)) {
   chomp $line;
   print TRTD . join(/TDTD, split(/;/, $line)) .
   /TD/TR\n;
   }
   print /TABLE\n;

Yes, this is exactly what I was thinking about :-)

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RE: Moving Disks to new PC Machines

2003-03-25 Thread Brent Wiese
 Joseph Maxwell wrote:
  Hello,
  I need to move my system ( actually 2 hard disk) to another 
 machine w/ 
  different MotherBoard and CPU. The disks have been configured as a 
  bootablesyetm disk and the other data storage. How can I 
 reconfigure 
  to achieve this with the minimum amount of perturbation.
 
 While the disks are in the old machine, verify that your 
 current kernel has compiled-in support for all the devices 
 needed on the new machine. If necessary, make a new kernel.  
 Then move the disks to the new machine and you're ready to go.
 

An easier option is just copy the generic kernel back into place... Or just
specify it at boot.

That way, if you're not sure of what devices you'll need, you can verify
using dmesg.

You did keep a copy of it around for emergencies, right? :)

Brent


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Re: CVSUP help

2003-03-25 Thread Toomas Aas
Hello!

 Im running a few FBSD systems doing a number of things from webhosting
 mail etcmost of the machines are  Duel P3 450 w/ 512 MB ram (kinda old
 butohwell)
 My question is thisI have done a full system update of a FBSD system
 on a older system 4.1 FBSD..however im getting ready to update my servers
 (currently running 4.5 release) to the either 5.0 release  or 4.7 stable.
 Which of these should i go to ? (personally id like to run the 5.0 seeing
 its suppose to have better SMP support... is this true ??)

It is my understanding that SMPng is still not quite polished and given 
that many parts of 5.0-RELEASE still contain a lot of debugging code I 
doubt that you would see any performance gain. I am not a developer of 
course, so have a grain of salt with that.

Anyhow, I in your shoes would read the Early Adopter's Guide from 
FreeBSD website, and then think deeply about it. Unless there is 
something in 5.0 that you *absolutely* can't live without, I would stay 
to 4.7 for now.

 Anywho ...the process of doing a cvsup ...has it changed or are there
 better methods that the guys at FBSD would recommend ? 

I personally wasn't even around when 4.1 was released, but since 4.3 
there haven't been much changes. Maybe in the times of 4.1 they still 
used the make world target instead of make buildworld + make 
installworld as is done now... Anyway, all the details are in the 
Handbook, chapter 21. Have fun :-)
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Re: FW: FW: Retrieving web based mail?

2003-03-25 Thread Toomas Aas
 The new powers that be have decided to turn of the POP2 server. There
 suggested alternative is a miserable web based mail access (Lotus Notes, I
 think, if it matters). 

Lotus Domino server (while being miserable indeed g) contains POP3 
and IMAP server. Maybe you can persuade the admins to turn it on.
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Re: Sendmail questions

2003-03-25 Thread Andreas Widerøe Andersen
At 02:09 25.03.2003 +0200, you wrote:
On 2003-03-24 15:14, Andreas Wider?e Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've got two questions:

 1. I've been getting this error all day on both of my FreeBSD
 servers (different physic location and version - 4.7 STABLE and 4.8
 RC): ... did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to
 MTA. I'm seing this in my /var/log/maillog file and since the
 problems occured around 04.30 this morning I haven't received any
 mails. Can anyone please explain to me what's going on? Both servers
 have been delivering mail for a long problem-free time. I'm running
 Sendmail 8.12.7 (patched) and 8.12.8.
What's the deal with the two different version numbers?  Are you
running two different Sendmail versions on the same machine?
No, they are on 2 different servers.

 2. When the mail server isn't sending out mail or relaying, all mail
 sent from localhost end up in here: /var/spool/clientmqueue. How can
 I manually send these mails off later?
It looks like one of the sendmail processes that should runn on your
system for mail to work somehow dies.
What does this show?

# ps xauww | grep sendmail


root 484  0.0  0.3  2784 1660  ??  Ss6:07PM   0:03.47 sendmail: 
accepting connections (sendmail)
smmsp495  0.0  0.3  2656 1552  ??  Is6:08PM   0:00.05 sendmail: 
Queue [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 for /var/spool/clientmqueue (sendmail)

I got the problem solved.
What solved the problem for me was to remove all the dnsbl
blacklistings, recompile the cf file and restart my Sendmail. Now it
works fine again. I will let things calm down before I start adding
those dnsbls again.
I wasn't the only one getting this problem, and all of us got it fixed by 
removing dnsbl features.

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Re: LVM / Vinum

2003-03-25 Thread james
Hi Greg

Thanks for the reply, appreciate it!

On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

  I'm very used to using LVM on Linux, AIX, HP/UX etc, and I want to be able
  to similar stuff on fbsd. I've had a play with Vinum, and I'm just
  wondering if there are any other alternatives?
 
 There's also RAIDFrame.

I'll look into that, but will stick to Vinum for now. I actually work for 
Veritas so it's a shame VM isn't on freebsd :)

  I like the LVM way of having a pool of physical volumes, and having
  the LVM subsystem take care of physical placement of logical
  volumes. In Vimun, it seems to me that you have to explicitly state
  what disks you would like to use for a volume.
 
 Yes, correct.  I don't think of this as a problem.

True, just means I'll have to actually plan things which can only be a 
good thing.

  Also, is it possible to extend / shrink volumes once they have been
  created?
 
 Yes.  Add or remove subdisks to/from a plex.

Is this also true for striped volumes? It seems this is not possible from 
the documentation I've found on the web, but I know that documentation can 
be out of date.

Cheers

James


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Re: Okano Mouse

2003-03-25 Thread CARTER Anthony
Try disabling the touchpad from the BIOS of the laptop. With Windows drivers, 
I believe that the touchpad gets disabled if a detection on the PS/2 port is 
detected, but I don't know if FreeBSD does...

Anthony

On Monday 24 March 2003 20:59, Pierrick Brossin wrote:
 Hey!

   Wheel still not working under X.
 
  Weird...
  Does the output from dmesg mention the mouse at all? Maybe we can
  identify it from there...

 Ok, while I was in the train I thought I forgot to tell you something :)

 The computer in question is a SONY laptop which has a touchpad and I'm
 connecting the new
 mouse to the PS2. So I think XFree doesn't the external mouse but the mouse
 can send signal. no ?
 My touchpad has two real buttons but no scroll. Only the external mouse has
 a scroll.

 That's maybe why !

 Any idea ?

 Thanx

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Portupgrading all

2003-03-25 Thread CARTER Anthony
Hi,

Is there anyway to portupgrade all the installed applications that I have on 
my FreeBSD box?

Anthony

portupgrade -rRN pkgconfig???would this do?

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Re: Portupgrading all

2003-03-25 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 10:33, CARTER Anthony wrote:
 Hi,

 Is there anyway to portupgrade all the installed applications that I have
 on my FreeBSD box?

I think portupgrade -Rra qhould do it.

Antoine


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Re: Portupgrading all

2003-03-25 Thread Marcel Stangenberger
 Is there anyway to portupgrade all the installed applications that I have on
 my FreeBSD box?


portupgrade -v -all

that should do the trick :-)

Marcel

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Re: Question

2003-03-25 Thread CARTER Anthony
Take a normal DOS boot disk with fdisk on it and do:

fdisk /mbr

That will get your NT back...

Now boot FreeBSD and add the loader, if you so wish. Please note, PQMagic ver 
7 does not recognise FBSDs filesystem (don't know about version 8).

Anthony

On Tuesday 25 March 2003 12:23,   wrote:
 Hello!
 I need help.
 After installing fBSD 5.0 release on drive with configuration
 ntfs - ad0s1
 ntfs - ad0s2
 fBSD - ad0s3 = new slice, after bios setup process i see messagentloader
 is missing, press ctr+alt+del. Trying fix it with FIXMBR and FIXBOOT of
 the win recovery console, take no effect. PQ Partition magic shows in this
 case error instead of partition table, ntldr file in ad0s1 is OK, booting
 from other disk with win2k i see normal partitions 1,2 and 3. During the
 install process, i choosen leave MBR untoched. Checking this disk with
 windows checker- no bad results. It's second time this situation takes
 place. What to do?how to repair it, and how not to do it in the future?
 Thank You.

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Re: 5.0 Release frequently asked questions

2003-03-25 Thread P. U. Kruppa
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, taxman wrote:


 Hi, due to the multiple questions that users have regarding 5.0, and not
 reading the documentation, I whipped up a quick version specific FAQ, that I
 think will be useful at least until 5.1 is released or 5-stable is created.
   We seem to get up to 5 questions a day on the questions mailing list from
 people that didn't read the early adopters guide and assumed the 5.0 was
 another production quality release.
   Please comment on this and let me know if you think it needs wider release.
 Mike Meyer was nice enough to host it for me.

 http://www.mired.org/5.0-not-production.html
Ok. I think I have got two nice and typical 5.0-nonProduction
questions for you:
1) What do these messages
   calcru: negative time of -67779 usec ...
   messages mean? They don't seem to do any harm, but frequently
   fill up my console.
2) What has become out of the /modules directory?

Regards,


Uli.



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Upgrading mobos...raid 1 to no raid?

2003-03-25 Thread Zach Thompson
I've been using raid 1 on an Abit kr7a-133r motherboard and am planning
to upgrade to a different mobo without raid (for the time being.)
Considering this is just mirroring, I should be able to drop down to one
drive, right? Also, when and how should I change the mount points for
the file systems, e.g. via an install cd, before I switch mobos, etc.?

Thanks,
Zach

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Re: 5.0 Release frequently asked questions

2003-03-25 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
Please, don't Cc: the doc@ list with general questions...

On 2003-03-25 14:53, P. U. Kruppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok. I think I have got two nice and typical 5.0-nonProduction
 questions for you:

 1) What do these messages
calcru: negative time of -67779 usec ...
messages mean? They don't seem to do any harm, but frequently
fill up my console.

This is described in the FAQ, IIRC.  Here it is:

http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#CALCRU-NEGATIVE

 2) What has become out of the /modules directory?

The /usr/src/UPDATING file says:

: 2905:
: The boot loader has been updated.  The new default kernel is
: now /boot/kernel/kernel.ko.  The new default module location
: is /boot/kernel.
:
: You *MUST* upgrade your boot loader and kernel at the same time.
: The easiest way to do this is to do the buildworld/buildkernel/
: installkernel/installworld dance.
:
: Furthermore, you are urged to delete your old /modules directory
: before booting the new kernel, since kldload will find stale
: modules in that directory instead of finding them in the correct
: path, /boot/kernel.  The most common complaint that this cures
: is that the linux module crashes your machine after the update.
:
: if [ ! -d /boot/kernel.old ]; then
: mv /modules.old /boot/kernel.old
: chflags noschg /kernel.old
: mv /kernel.old /boot/kernel.old/kernel.ko
: chflags schg /boot/kernel.old/kernel.ko
: fi


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Re: Upgrading mobos...raid 1 to no raid?

2003-03-25 Thread Zach Thompson
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 06:55, Zach Thompson wrote:
 Also, when and how should I change the mount points for
 the file systems, e.g. via an install cd, before I switch mobos, etc.?

Sorry, really meant the device as this is what will be changing.


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RE: 5.0 In-stalls

2003-03-25 Thread John Straiton
 But the install breaks telling me that the filesystem
 is full while trying to complete an extract. I
 allocate 128MB for the root mount, but when I allocate
 more, it still breaks but on a later extract, so the
 install seems to proceed futher. I know I'm missing
 something obvious.

Sounds to me that you've got the problem already narrowed down. Have you
tried using a much bigger / just to test (doesn't take long to get to
that point of the install)?

My installed 5.0 machines only use 51M of the / partition once up, but I
don't have any with less than 500MB in / so I can't say what the minimum
is to install.

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Re: 5.0 In-stalls

2003-03-25 Thread CARTER Anthony
As default during install i believe that root is 256MB...maybe try that...

Anthony

On Tuesday 25 March 2003 15:53, John Straiton wrote:
  But the install breaks telling me that the filesystem
  is full while trying to complete an extract. I
  allocate 128MB for the root mount, but when I allocate
  more, it still breaks but on a later extract, so the
  install seems to proceed futher. I know I'm missing
  something obvious.

 Sounds to me that you've got the problem already narrowed down. Have you
 tried using a much bigger / just to test (doesn't take long to get to
 that point of the install)?

 My installed 5.0 machines only use 51M of the / partition once up, but I
 don't have any with less than 500MB in / so I can't say what the minimum
 is to install.

 John Straiton
 Jks @clickcom.com
 Clickcom, Inc
 704-365-9970x101



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Hide mouse pointer with Xwindows

2003-03-25 Thread Emilio Manuel
Hi...

I need to hide mouse pointer (the big X) with Xwindows. I have read man 
XF86Config but I cann't find anything related and I don't know any 
program/command/option that can do it.

I want hide mouse pointer just at Xwindows starts, and probably, I don't 
show it again.

¿Do you know how to do it?

Thank you in advanced

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[no subject]

2003-03-25 Thread bush
I am testing this out. That's right, Bush needs FreeBSD to survive!

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RE: OpenSSL obstacle to PostgreSQL Installation

2003-03-25 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tamir Halperin [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 It appears that a symlink solved the problem. I did try someone else's symlink 
 suggestion but it didn't point to the /usr/lib directory like Dmitry's did.
 
 A brief conversation with Dmitry Morozovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in the 
 pgsql-admin list produced the following:
 DM So, possibly, quick hack like 'ln -s 
 DM /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so /usr/lib' may
 DM help you.

Right. That's a good symlink to do. The question is, why did ports
think you should have /usr/lib/libcrypto.so when you didn't have one?
Either you didn't install the crypto distribution, or you didn't build
it when you upgarded to a system that had it.

 He brings up a good point. I'm running something that's over a year behind and I 
 think it would benefit me to be at 4.8 or at least 4.7.
 Can you point me to a concise document that discusses the upgrade procedure?

I don't know of one. Upgrading a binary distribution is
straightforward, though. Boot the 4.8 CDROM, and select
ugprade. That will give you a long warning about how dangerous all
this is - which you should ignore, because you've backed up your
system prior to doing this. Go through the upgrade procedure, then use
the copy of your config files that it saved - I forget where - to
modify the new versions that were installed so your config files are
up to date.

Alternatively for that last step, you can copy the your version back,
and run /usr/sbin/mergemaster to merge in the config file changes
from 4.8. But getting your config files up to date is the only part
that's not simple.

If you want to do a source upgrade, the handbook covers that in the
cutting edge. But the sequence is:

# cvsup # to get new sources.
# cd /usr/src
# make buildworld
# make kernel KERNCONF=whatever # use your kernel config file name here
# shutdown -r   # reboot new kernel in single user mode.

Then, in single user mode

# fsck -p
# mount -a
# cd /usr/src
# make installworld
# /usr/sbin/mergemaster

And again, it should all just work, except for the mergemaster step.

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Open Source

2003-03-25 Thread Don Juan
Hey. I was wondering if FreeBSD Linux is open source (source code)
I want to see how it is build up and stuff.
If it is Open source, do you think you can tell me how to get it???=)

Greatings Dan Gaute
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Re: Open Source

2003-03-25 Thread Andreas Widerøe Andersen
At 03:10 25.03.2003 -0500, Don Juan wrote:
Hey. I was wondering if FreeBSD Linux is open source (source code)
FreeBSD is not Linux, but an alternative preferred by many.

I want to see how it is build up and stuff.
If it is Open source, do you think you can tell me how to get it???=)
Install FreeBSD with full source. You can see all source under /usr/src.

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Question

2003-03-25 Thread
Hello!
I need help.
After installing fBSD 5.0 release on drive with configuration
ntfs - ad0s1
ntfs - ad0s2
fBSD - ad0s3 = new slice, after bios setup process i see messagentloader is missing, 
press ctr+alt+del.
Trying fix it with FIXMBR and FIXBOOT of the win recovery console, take no effect. PQ 
Partition magic shows in this case error instead of partition table, ntldr file in 
ad0s1 is OK, booting from other disk with win2k i see normal partitions 1,2 and 3. 
During the install process, i choosen leave MBR untoched. Checking this disk with 
windows checker- no bad results. It's second time this situation takes place. What to 
do?how to repair it, and how not to do it in the future?
Thank You.

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Re: multi-port serial IO support

2003-03-25 Thread Tom Limoncelli
On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 01:38  PM, Douglas K. Rand wrote:

** Jim Pazarena [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:38:01 -0800
** in [multi-port serial IO support] writes:
Jim Can anyone suggest a reliable multi-port serial system which has
Jim native support for FreeBSD (without the linux compat module) ?
We use the Comtrol RocketPort cards. I've had good luck with both the
16 and 32 port variations. The only problem I've ever had was trying
to get two RocketPort cards to work in the same box. (Although I've
not tested it, I suspect that the driver that comes with FreeBSD 4.7
might fix this, we are still back at 4.5 on that box.)
We especially like that they are rack mountable and come in high
densities.
I'm also a fan of the RocketPort card.  I am a little concerned that 
the first time you use it, the driver logs to dmesg:

WARNING: driver rp should register devices with make_dev() (dev_t = 
#rp/0x10082)

Has the driver been updated since FreeBSD 4.5?  (Yeah, our RocketPorts 
are on older machines... a testament to how reliable FreeBSD 4.x is :-) 
...we haven't needed to upgrade them).

My other concern is that the RocketPorts have RJ45 connectors and 
finding the right cable is sometimes difficult.  They look like modern 
Cisco RJ45 serial ports, but they aren't compatible.  I wish there was 
a vendor that I could call and say, Hi!  I have this weird device... 
here's my credit-card #... send me the right cable for my console 
server.

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[OT] file synchronization between two machines

2003-03-25 Thread Louis LeBlanc
Hey all.  Sorry for the OT question, but here goes.

I have several documents that I modify on two different machines.  Of
course, before I start work on one machine, I have to remember where I
last modified it, and if necessary, copy it over.

I'd like to automate this process.  I know rdist is supposed to do
something like this, but as I understand it, it only works for files
modified in a centralized location.

To further complicate things, communication between the two machines
is strictly one sided.  One machine is behind a firewall that doesn't
have an opening for the second.  I haven't yet had time to set up a
tunnel between the two to remedy that, but ssh access the other way is
trivial.

Anyone know of a tool or method that can check the last modification
date of two files under these conditions and keep them in sync?

Thanks
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Re: [OT] file synchronization between two machines

2003-03-25 Thread Doug Hardie
On Tuesday, Mar 25, 2003, at 08:01 US/Pacific, Louis LeBlanc wrote:

Hey all.  Sorry for the OT question, but here goes.

Anyone know of a tool or method that can check the last modification
date of two files under these conditions and keep them in sync?
I've never tried this, but you might give rsync with the -u option a 
try (test it first on unimportant files).  I believe you would need to 
run it on both machines as it would only update in one direction.

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Re: [OT] file synchronization between two machines

2003-03-25 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2003-03-25 11:01, Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey all.  Sorry for the OT question, but here goes.

 I have several documents that I modify on two different machines.  Of
 course, before I start work on one machine, I have to remember where I
 last modified it, and if necessary, copy it over.

 I'd like to automate this process.  I know rdist is supposed to do
 something like this, but as I understand it, it only works for files
 modified in a centralized location.

 To further complicate things, communication between the two machines
 is strictly one sided.  One machine is behind a firewall that doesn't
 have an opening for the second.  I haven't yet had time to set up a
 tunnel between the two to remedy that, but ssh access the other way is
 trivial.

 Anyone know of a tool or method that can check the last modification
 date of two files under these conditions and keep them in sync?

If these documents are text-only or at least test-based (no binary
formats, like .doc, .pdf or whatever), this is a situation that
screams Use CVS! Use CVS! :)

- Giorgos


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RE: [OT] file synchronization between two machines

2003-03-25 Thread Yonatan Bokovza
 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Hardie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 18:10
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [OT] file synchronization between two machines
 
 
 
 On Tuesday, Mar 25, 2003, at 08:01 US/Pacific, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
 
  Hey all.  Sorry for the OT question, but here goes.
 
  Anyone know of a tool or method that can check the last modification
  date of two files under these conditions and keep them in sync?
 
 I've never tried this, but you might give rsync with the -u option a 
 try (test it first on unimportant files).  I believe you 
 would need to 
 run it on both machines as it would only update in one direction.

rsync (from ports/net/rsync) does not need a peer on the other side.
You can think of is as a clever scp- you can copy to/from one server
to/from another server, only rsync can sync files on the block level, 
so it's supposed to be more efficient than merely copying the files over.
For your case, I'd say run a cron job at the firewalled machine to rsync
the files over to the other one.

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Re: [OT] file synchronization between two machines

2003-03-25 Thread Adam Maas
- Original Message - 
From: Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FreeBSD Questions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:01 AM
Subject: [OT] file synchronization between two machines


 Hey all.  Sorry for the OT question, but here goes.
 
--SNIP--
 
 Anyone know of a tool or method that can check the last modification
 date of two files under these conditions and keep them in sync?
 
 Thanks
 Lou
 -- 

Try rsync.

Adam


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Re: [OT] file synchronization between two machines

2003-03-25 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 03/25/03 06:40 PM, Yonatan Bokovza sat at the `puter and typed:
  On Tuesday, Mar 25, 2003, at 08:01 US/Pacific, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
  
   Hey all.  Sorry for the OT question, but here goes.
  
   Anyone know of a tool or method that can check the last modification
   date of two files under these conditions and keep them in sync?
  
  I've never tried this, but you might give rsync with the -u option a 
  try (test it first on unimportant files).  I believe you 
  would need to 
  run it on both machines as it would only update in one direction.
 
 rsync (from ports/net/rsync) does not need a peer on the other side.
 You can think of is as a clever scp- you can copy to/from one server
 to/from another server, only rsync can sync files on the block level, 
 so it's supposed to be more efficient than merely copying the files over.
 For your case, I'd say run a cron job at the firewalled machine to rsync
 the files over to the other one.

That sounds right, but what if the file last changed on the remote
machine?  Will rsync copy the newer remote copy to the local machine
when necessary and copy the newer local copy to the remote machine
when necessary?  This is the problem, really.  Running rsync on both
machines won't do any good, because the remote machine can't come
thru the firewall.

I had already thought of another recommendation to use CVS, but that
wouldn't work because the files are M$ Word (eww).

Thanks everyone for your replies

Lou
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RE: OpenSSL obstacle to PostgreSQL Installation

2003-03-25 Thread Tamir Halperin
I have a few questions and I'll jump right into this.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:50 AM
 To: Tamir Halperin
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OpenSSL obstacle to PostgreSQL Installation
 
 Right. That's a good symlink to do. The question is, why did ports
 think you should have /usr/lib/libcrypto.so when you didn't have one?
 Either you didn't install the crypto distribution, or you didn't build
 it when you upgarded to a system that had it.

1a. As I proceed with the full upgrade how do I confirm that crypto is installed and 
running properly so that I can remove the symlink and get the system into a 
configuration that is more supportable and relying more on default settings?

1b. How do I get rid of the symlink? I looked at man ln and it wasn't very clear. I 
have so much to learn :(

  He brings up a good point. I'm running something that's 
 over a year behind and I think it would benefit me to be at 
 4.8 or at least 4.7.
  Can you point me to a concise document that discusses the 
 upgrade procedure?

 I don't know of one. Upgrading a binary distribution is
 straightforward, though. Boot the 4.8 CDROM, and select
 ugprade. That will give you a long warning about how dangerous all
 this is - which you should ignore, because you've backed up your
 system prior to doing this. Go through the upgrade procedure, then use
 the copy of your config files that it saved - I forget where - to
 modify the new versions that were installed so your config files are
 up to date.

You may not know of one but you sure did create one for me here. Thx.

I'll download the 4.8 cdimage and burn a cd.

2. I do not know how to do a back up. I hope there's some program in the system that 
will allow me to simply back up only the system related config files since those are 
the only thinga that aren't application specific that I've modified from time to time.

I can easily get burn those on to a cd as well or copy them as a backup volume to my 
other machine for later restoration.

 Alternatively for that last step, you can copy the your version back,
 and run /usr/sbin/mergemaster to merge in the config file changes
 from 4.8. But getting your config files up to date is the only part
 that's not simple.

3a. An interestingly sounding alternative but I'm not sure what you mean by copy your 
version back.

3b. What does my version pertain to?
Are you limiting that term to my version of the config files in the sense that I 
restore them back to their original locations and a program called mergmaster 
automagically updates them all with 4.8 settings where appropriate?

 If you want to do a source upgrade, the handbook covers that in the
 cutting edge. But the sequence is:
 
 # cvsup   # to get new sources.
 # cd /usr/src
 # make buildworld
 # make kernel KERNCONF=whatever   # use your kernel

4a. Where will I find the file that needs to be referenced in place of the word 
whatever? If you know the directory the KERNCONF file is stored in, great. But some 
hints as to the name will go a long way as well if you don't.

 config file name here

4b. This one eludes me as well.

 # shutdown -r # reboot new kernel in single user mode.
 
 Then, in single user mode
 
 # fsck -p
 # mount -a
 # cd /usr/src
 # make installworld
 # /usr/sbin/mergemaster
 
 And again, it should all just work, except for the mergemaster step.

I'll read up on mergemaster and formulate my next round of questions when I know more 
about it.

   mike

Thanks again.

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RE: [OT] file synchronization between two machines

2003-03-25 Thread Yonatan Bokovza
 -Original Message-
 From: Louis LeBlanc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 18:57
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [OT] file synchronization between two machines
 
 
 On 03/25/03 06:40 PM, Yonatan Bokovza sat at the `puter and typed:
   On Tuesday, Mar 25, 2003, at 08:01 US/Pacific, Louis 
 LeBlanc wrote:
   
Hey all.  Sorry for the OT question, but here goes.
   
Anyone know of a tool or method that can check the last 
 modification
date of two files under these conditions and keep them in sync?
   
   I've never tried this, but you might give rsync with the 
 -u option a 
   try (test it first on unimportant files).  I believe you 
   would need to 
   run it on both machines as it would only update in one direction.
  
  rsync (from ports/net/rsync) does not need a peer on the other side.
  You can think of is as a clever scp- you can copy to/from one server
  to/from another server, only rsync can sync files on the 
 block level, 
  so it's supposed to be more efficient than merely copying 
 the files over.
  For your case, I'd say run a cron job at the firewalled 
 machine to rsync
  the files over to the other one.
 
 That sounds right, but what if the file last changed on the remote
 machine?  Will rsync copy the newer remote copy to the local machine
 when necessary and copy the newer local copy to the remote machine
 when necessary?  This is the problem, really.  Running rsync on both
 machines won't do any good, because the remote machine can't come
 thru the firewall.
 
 I had already thought of another recommendation to use CVS, but that
 wouldn't work because the files are M$ Word (eww).

Read it's man page:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=rsyncapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+Ports+4.7-RELEASEformat=html

you can do this at the firewalled machine
(examples only, not real commands) :
rsync -u [EMAIL PROTECTED]:file file
rsync -u file [EMAIL PROTECTED]:file

This will guarantee that file is the same on both machines.

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usb device driver skeleton?

2003-03-25 Thread David Rio
Hi all:

I want to port a linux device driver that I did to *BSD. I would 
like to know if there is some source of information to develope
usb device drivers in freebsd. Handbook talks about usb in general,
an about device drivers but not about usb device drivers. My last
option is to read some usb DD already coded but before that I would like
know if there is some other beginner source of information.

Thanks in advance... this list rocks.

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RE: file system help needed

2003-03-25 Thread John Straiton
I'd think something like this should work for you (please give your own
consideration on which filesystem you'd like to use otherwise)

Make a backup of /etc/namedb of course first  stop bind..

mkdir /usr/www/etc
cp -Rp /etc/namedb /usr/www/etc/
rm -r /etc/namedb
ln -s /usr/www/etc/namedb /etc/namedb

Now start bind again. 

You could use a similar method to just install another HD with a slice
named /etc/namedb

John Straiton
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Clickcom, Inc
704-365-9970x101 


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arie J. Gerszt
 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:15 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: file system help needed
 
 
 Hi Everybody
 
 I have a huge problem as you see ...
 
 Filesystem  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Mounted on
 /dev/ad0s1a 9918396309-5060   106%/
 /dev/ad0s1e   5458605  2866595  215532257%/usr
 /dev/ad0s1g  17876344  1085421 15360816 7%/usr/www
 /dev/ad0s1f   4465853   212592  3895993 5%/var
 procfs  440   100%/proc
 
 This server is a production server and I can't add any dns 
 zonefiles or passwords, because they sit in /etc which is 
 full, evidently.
 
 What can I do to solve that rather quickly? The disk ad0 has 
 free space:
 
 caramba# fdisk /dev/ad0
 *** Working on device /dev/ad0 ***
 parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
 cylinders=3649 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)
 
 Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 
 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: 
 cylinders=3649 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)
 
 Media sector size is 512
 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
 Information from DOS bootblock is:
 The data for partition 1 is:
 sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
 start 63, size 58621122 (28623 Meg), flag 80 (active)
 beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
 end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
 The data for partition 2 is:
 UNUSED
 The data for partition 3 is:
 UNUSED
 The data for partition 4 is:
 UNUSED
 caramba#
 
 
 -- but i am not sure what to do, because I can't have any long 
 -- downtime,
 understandibily.
 Thanks for help,
 
 Arie
 
 
 
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RE: [OT] file synchronization between two machines

2003-03-25 Thread John Straiton
 The only drawback is rsync will never delete files; you have
 to manually remove them from both machines manually.

It wouldn't be near as neat a utility if that were true.

From the man page for rsync:

--deletedelete files that don't exist on
the sending side
--delete-excluded   also delete excluded files on the
receiving side
--delete-after  delete after transferring, not
before
--ignore-errors delete even if there are IO
errors

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RE: [OT] file synchronization between two machines

2003-03-25 Thread John Straiton
 The only drawback is rsync will never delete files; you have to 
 manually remove them from both machines manually.

It wouldn't be near as neat a utility if that were true (unless I
misunderstood your statement).

From the man page for rsync:

--deletedelete files that don't exist on
the sending side
--delete-excluded   also delete excluded files on the
receiving side
--delete-after  delete after transferring, not
before
--ignore-errors delete even if there are IO
errors

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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some questions about FreeBSD 5.x

2003-03-25 Thread Alex
Hi everybody!

I was so much enthusiastic about kernel threads implemented in 5.x but 
some ugly rumors spoiled my dreams :0)
So I want to get if these rumors are myths or not.

1.Is it true that kernel threads are more heavy than userspace 
ones (pthread) and hence application with hundreds of threads will work 
evidently slower than that using pthreads due to more switching penalties?

2.Is it true that even 5.x has no implementation for inter-process 
semaphores that are blocking calling thread only not the whole process 
as usually in FreeBSD?

Alex

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RE: OpenSSL obstacle to PostgreSQL Installation

2003-03-25 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tamir Halperin [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:50 AM
  To: Tamir Halperin
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: OpenSSL obstacle to PostgreSQL Installation
  
  Right. That's a good symlink to do. The question is, why did ports
  think you should have /usr/lib/libcrypto.so when you didn't have one?
  Either you didn't install the crypto distribution, or you didn't build
  it when you upgarded to a system that had it.
 1a. As I proceed with the full upgrade how do I confirm that crypto is installed and 
 running properly so that I can remove the symlink and get the system into a 
 configuration that is more supportable and relying more on default settings?

Make sure you select any cryptography distributions that show up.

 1b. How do I get rid of the symlink? I looked at man ln and it wasn't very clear. I 
 have so much to learn :(

Just rm /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.

 
 2. I do not know how to do a back up. I hope there's some program in the system that 
 will allow me to simply back up only the system related config files since those are 
 the only thinga that aren't application specific that I've modified from time to 
 time.

The upgrade process will back up the system related config files for
you. Like I said, I'm not sure where it backs them up to, as I haven't
done a binary upgrade in a while.

 I can easily get burn those on to a cd as well or copy them as a backup volume to my 
 other machine for later restoration.
  Alternatively for that last step, you can copy the your version back,
  and run /usr/sbin/mergemaster to merge in the config file changes
  from 4.8. But getting your config files up to date is the only part
  that's not simple.
 3a. An interestingly sounding alternative but I'm not sure what you mean by copy 
 your version back.
 3b. What does my version pertain to?

The upgrade process copies all your old system config files to a safe
place before it installs the new ones. That's your version of them.

 Are you limiting that term to my version of the config files in the sense that I 
 restore them back to their original locations and a program called mergmaster 
 automagically updates them all with 4.8 settings where appropriate?

Sort of. Mergemaster isn't completely automatic. It will ask you if
you want to udpate files, and gives you the option to examine both
files and then merge them under your control. If you haven't modified
very many of the files, it might be easier to do this the other way
around.

  If you want to do a source upgrade, the handbook covers that in the
  cutting edge. But the sequence is:
  
  # cvsup # to get new sources.
  # cd /usr/src
  # make buildworld
  # make kernel KERNCONF=whatever # use your kernel
 4a. Where will I find the file that needs to be referenced in place of the word 
 whatever? If you know the directory the KERNCONF file is stored in, great. But 
 some hints as to the name will go a long way as well if you don't.
  config file name here
 4b. This one eludes me as well.

Those are the same thing. If you haven't configured a custom kernel,
then you can just do make kernel and leave off the KERNCONF=
stuff. If you have configured a custom kernel, you should know the
name of the kernels config file, and that's the whatever to use.

mike
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Re: [OT] file synchronization between two machines

2003-03-25 Thread Oliver Braun
* Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-03-25 11:01 -0500]:
 Anyone know of a tool or method that can check the last modification
 date of two files under these conditions and keep them in sync?

Try unison[1][2]. I love it.

Regards,
 Olli

1. http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/
2. ${PORTSDIR}/net/unison/
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Re: [OT] file synchronization between two machines

2003-03-25 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 03/25/03 12:23 PM, John Straiton sat at the `puter and typed:
  The only drawback is rsync will never delete files; you have to 
  manually remove them from both machines manually.
 
 It wouldn't be near as neat a utility if that were true (unless I
 misunderstood your statement).
 
 From the man page for rsync:
 
   --deletedelete files that don't exist on
 the sending side
 --delete-excluded   also delete excluded files on the
 receiving side
 --delete-after  delete after transferring, not
 before
   --ignore-errors delete even if there are IO
 errors

Cool.  It also occurred to me that a flag that tells rsync not to copy
files if they aren't already at the destination would be useful.
--existing will do it.

Looking thru the manpage, I see that the -C flag is a cvs style
exclusion.  Is there any reason for using an explicit exclusion in one
command and a CVS style exclusion in the other?
  rsync -avuzb --exclude '*~' samba:samba/ .
  rsync -Cavuzb . samba:samba/

Other than this, I think you've all helped me solve this problem.
Thank you!

Lou
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RE: OpenSSL obstacle to PostgreSQL Installation

2003-03-25 Thread Tamir Halperin
I did do a custom kernel only it wasn't me and the person that did this for me is no 
longer available to refer the question to.

I remember clearly that he was interested in shrinking down the size of the kernel for 
the sake of saving memory but I don't remember the details of how he achieved this.

What are some typical things to look for and where when trying to hunt down a config 
file for a custom kernel.


 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:39 PM
 To: Tamir Halperin
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OpenSSL obstacle to PostgreSQL Installation
 
 
 In [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
 Tamir Halperin [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
   -Original Message-
   From: Mike Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:50 AM
   To: Tamir Halperin
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: OpenSSL obstacle to PostgreSQL Installation
   
   Right. That's a good symlink to do. The question is, why did ports
   think you should have /usr/lib/libcrypto.so when you 
 didn't have one?
   Either you didn't install the crypto distribution, or you 
 didn't build
   it when you upgarded to a system that had it.
  1a. As I proceed with the full upgrade how do I confirm 
 that crypto is installed and running properly so that I can 
 remove the symlink and get the system into a configuration 
 that is more supportable and relying more on default settings?
 
 Make sure you select any cryptography distributions that show up.
 
  1b. How do I get rid of the symlink? I looked at man ln and 
 it wasn't very clear. I have so much to learn :(
 
 Just rm /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.
 
  
  2. I do not know how to do a back up. I hope there's some 
 program in the system that will allow me to simply back up 
 only the system related config files since those are the only 
 thinga that aren't application specific that I've modified 
 from time to time.
 
 The upgrade process will back up the system related config files for
 you. Like I said, I'm not sure where it backs them up to, as I haven't
 done a binary upgrade in a while.
 
  I can easily get burn those on to a cd as well or copy them 
 as a backup volume to my other machine for later restoration.
   Alternatively for that last step, you can copy the your 
 version back,
   and run /usr/sbin/mergemaster to merge in the config 
 file changes
   from 4.8. But getting your config files up to date is the 
 only part
   that's not simple.
  3a. An interestingly sounding alternative but I'm not sure 
 what you mean by copy your version back.
  3b. What does my version pertain to?
 
 The upgrade process copies all your old system config files to a safe
 place before it installs the new ones. That's your version of them.
 
  Are you limiting that term to my version of the config 
 files in the sense that I restore them back to their original 
 locations and a program called mergmaster automagically 
 updates them all with 4.8 settings where appropriate?
 
 Sort of. Mergemaster isn't completely automatic. It will ask you if
 you want to udpate files, and gives you the option to examine both
 files and then merge them under your control. If you haven't modified
 very many of the files, it might be easier to do this the other way
 around.
 
   If you want to do a source upgrade, the handbook covers 
 that in the
   cutting edge. But the sequence is:
   
   # cvsup   # to get new sources.
   # cd /usr/src
   # make buildworld
   # make kernel KERNCONF=whatever   # use your kernel
  4a. Where will I find the file that needs to be referenced 
 in place of the word whatever? If you know the directory 
 the KERNCONF file is stored in, great. But some hints as to 
 the name will go a long way as well if you don't.
   config file name here
  4b. This one eludes me as well.
 
 Those are the same thing. If you haven't configured a custom kernel,
 then you can just do make kernel and leave off the KERNCONF=
 stuff. If you have configured a custom kernel, you should know the
 name of the kernels config file, and that's the whatever to use.
 
   mike
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CVSUP help

2003-03-25 Thread Brent Bailey
hello,
Im running a few FBSD systems doing a number of things from webhosting
mail etcmost of the machines are  Duel P3 450 w/ 512 MB ram (kinda old
butohwell)
My question is thisI have done a full system update of a FBSD system
on a older system 4.1 FBSD..however im getting ready to update my servers
(currently running 4.5 release) to the either 5.0 release  or 4.7 stable.
Which of these should i go to ? (personally id like to run the 5.0 seeing
its suppose to have better SMP support... is this true ??)
Anywho ...the process of doing a cvsup ...has it changed or are there
better methods that the guys at FBSD would recommend ? And what are the
newer proceedures for this ?
Thank you for any and all help

Brent




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RE: OpenSSL obstacle to PostgreSQL Installation

2003-03-25 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tamir Halperin [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 I did do a custom kernel only it wasn't me and the person that did this for me is no 
 longer available to refer the question to.
 
 I remember clearly that he was interested in shrinking down the size of the kernel 
 for the sake of saving memory but I don't remember the details of how he achieved 
 this.
 
 What are some typical things to look for and where when trying to hunt down a config 
 file for a custom kernel.

/usr/src/sys/i386/conf. That should have GENERIC and LINT in
it. Anything else there is a custom kernel, and can be used as the
value of the KERNCONF= parameter to make kernel.

mike
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FW: FW: Retrieving web based mail?

2003-03-25 Thread stan


The company I worked for is in the process of being merged. Lot's of fun
:-(

In any case one of the results of this is a huge problem for me in mail
retrieval. I use a freeBSD laptop as my primary machine. I had been using
fetchmail to retrieve my email, and passing the mail on to sendmail on the
local machine. 

The new powers that be have decided to turn of the POP2 server. There
suggested alternative is a miserable web based mail access (Lotus Notes, I
think, if it matters). 

Now, I was wondering if someone had cobbled together something (perl
script), to essentially screen scrape email of w web interface? I am hoping
to replace the fetchmail part of my setup with something.

Suggestions?

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neither liberty nor safety.
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Re: Can't get PCI128 sound card to be recognized

2003-03-25 Thread Steve Willoughby
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 Perhaps you should change your BIOS settings to no PnP OS

No, I looked there first.  The BIOS doesn't appear to have any such
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Re: FW: FW: Retrieving web based mail?

2003-03-25 Thread Stephen Hovey

I feel for ya - we used to call this the result of 'damagement' :)

On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, stan wrote:

 
 
 The company I worked for is in the process of being merged. Lot's of fun
 :-(
 
 In any case one of the results of this is a huge problem for me in mail
 retrieval. I use a freeBSD laptop as my primary machine. I had been using
 fetchmail to retrieve my email, and passing the mail on to sendmail on the
 local machine. 
 
 The new powers that be have decided to turn of the POP2 server. There
 suggested alternative is a miserable web based mail access (Lotus Notes, I
 think, if it matters). 
 
 Now, I was wondering if someone had cobbled together something (perl
 script), to essentially screen scrape email of w web interface? I am hoping
 to replace the fetchmail part of my setup with something.
 
 Suggestions?
 
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Re: Problem with soundcard fm801 under 4.8RC1

2003-03-25 Thread Willie Viljoen
On Thursday 20 March 2003 19:33, someone, possibly Whyking, typed:
 Hi,
 my problem is still not fixed. I'm pretty sure by the time that the
 driver maybe just broken. When noone of you has an idea what the problem
 could be I gonna fill out a bug report. So any hints would be
 appreciated.

 Cheers,
 Whyking

I've been having a similar problem with an FM801 since 4.7-STABLE some time. 
I filed a report on GNATS but it seems to have never been delivered. I'll 
mail the maintaner of the driver and see if we can get him to take a quick 
look.

Will

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 Whyking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sorry, i forgot. I ran mergemaster and just reran MAKEDEV all. Still
  doesn't work.
 
  On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:56:51 -0500
 
  Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   [please wrap your lines to a reasonable length]
  
   Whyking wrote:
Hello,
I have a huge problem trying to get my soundcard working. It worked
perfectly
   
 before I upgraded my system to 4.8RC1. Since I compiled the new
 kernel I always get /dev/dsp: Device not configured. It's a
 terratec 512i with an fm 801 chip (pci). I tried compiling the
 kernel with and without pcm support build in. The module loads
 without complaints and I see the soundcard in pciconf -l.
   
Thanks in advance,
  
   Did you run cd /dev; MAKEDEV all after the upgrade?  It will do
   this for you automatically when you run mergemaster.
  
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RE: Upgrading mobos...raid 1 to no raid?

2003-03-25 Thread Brent Wiese
It depends on the RAID chip.

I believe (don't quote me on this tho) that the Promise raid chips in
mirroring mode uses a master drive, then mirrors that to the secondary
drive as it can (I'm sure using some complicated methodolgy). In theory, you
should just be able to use the regular wd driver and let the system boot up,
assuming you didn't pull that from your kernel...

Of course, the best thing to do is to backup the drive first before
attempting.

There are lots of new boards out there that have the raid chips on them. Why
not stick to one of those? They're not much pricier and the convenience of
mirroring when a drive dies is so nice... :) Just make sure its the same
chip... Promise and Highpoint are the 2 most common and they don't mix. I
had a stripe on a promise and moved it to a highpoint (figuring I'd have to
break and rebuild it). The highpoint claimed to recognize it and the o/s saw
the stripe, but everything was corrupted on disk checks and such, so don't
let it fool you!

brent

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 Sorry, really meant the device as this is what will be changing.
 
 
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IPFW - Why Doesn't This Rule Match?

2003-03-25 Thread Drew Tomlinson
I am using the following rules to match traffic on my home network with a
FBSD 4.8 firewall.  The first rule matches but the second doesn't.  Here's
the rules:

# Match this specific traffic
00700288 329708 count ip from 192.168.1.3 8080 to any

# Match everything else
00800  0  0 count ip from not 192.168.1.3 8080 to any

Can anyone tell me what I am missing?

Thanks,

Drew


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RE: FW: Retrieving web based mail?

2003-03-25 Thread Brent Wiese

 The company I worked for is in the process of being merged. 
 Lot's of fun :-(
 
 In any case one of the results of this is a huge problem for 
 me in mail retrieval. I use a freeBSD laptop as my primary 
 machine. I had been using fetchmail to retrieve my email, and 
 passing the mail on to sendmail on the local machine. 
 
 The new powers that be have decided to turn of the POP2 
 server. There suggested alternative is a miserable web based 
 mail access (Lotus Notes, I think, if it matters). 
 
 Now, I was wondering if someone had cobbled together 
 something (perl script), to essentially screen scrape email 
 of w web interface? I am hoping to replace the fetchmail part 
 of my setup with something.
 
 Suggestions?

If you're able to get a copy of the webmail pages, you may be able to
decipher the calls that log you in/present your new mail/etc. Then, just
build a perl script to connect to the web server and run the relevant
commands and parse the results as you see fit.

Lotus Notes also has a stand-alone client. Not sure what protocol it uses,
but maybe they have it enabled and you can find something that will
interface with it. Like maybe it uses IMAP or something. Lotus is known
for its abilty to replicate (techies, of course, would use the more accurate
term synch), so there is probably a way to interface with that...

Never know, if you come up w/ something good enough, you could submit it to
the ports and help the other poor people that are subjected to Notes use...

Brent


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RE: Freebsd - restarting itself - followup

2003-03-25 Thread Brent Wiese
 Right now I have the exact same thing happening to one machine.  It is
 located offsite (naturally) and about 10 days ago it had a random
 shutdown (did not come back up) followed by a random reboot a couple
 days later.  It had been running 50-60 days previous.  The shutdown
 occurred just after business hours, the reboot at about 4am.  
 I now have
 the machine emailing me at specific intervals to try to narrow things
 down.
 
 I have a couple ideas for the both of us.  One is that maybe 
 the machine
 is plugged into a faulty power line, something that is borking the
 current enough to cause reboots.  Another is that maybe the 
 PSU is dying
 prematurely (3mos old for me).
 
 I wish us both good luck.
 
 -Derrick

Almost certainly heat related. Even really good cpu/ps fans in a clean
environment will only last a year or so running 24/7. Most just weren't
built with this kind of use in mind. I made a habit of checking fans yearly
and replacing as needed.

However, I've never had box shutdown, only reboot. Did it really shut down,
or was it maybe hung on boot wanting a manual fsck or something? If it
actually shutdown, and you're not connected to a ups running a shutdown
daemon, I would suspect someone did it accidentally or intentionally...
Maybe something like kill 1? :)

I was also never a power supply snob in the past, but I can honestly say now
that I will not buy generic p/s anymore. I went thru 2 generic p/s on my
home machine before buying the nice $100 antec... I haven't had any problems
since... No lockups/reboots/etc. It definitely turned my thinking around.

Brent


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freebsd_spreading

2003-03-25 Thread Silvestre Crispim
Hi, FreeBSD brothers

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I am using of the FreeBSD and would like to receive for e_mail the images 
(marks) the FreeBSD, to help to divulge the system in my country. Any 
illustration for impression in shirts. Phrases, symbols, mascotes, etc.
 original

Sou usuário do FreeBSD e gostaria de receber por e_mail as imagens (marcas) 
do FreeBSD, para ajudar a divulgar o sistema em meu país. Qualquer 
ilustração para impressão em camisas.
Frases, símbolos, mascotes, etc.

by Silvestre
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Re: IPFW - Why Doesn't This Rule Match?

2003-03-25 Thread Dan Pelleg
Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am using the following rules to match traffic on my home network with a
 FBSD 4.8 firewall.  The first rule matches but the second doesn't.  Here's
 the rules:
 
 # Match this specific traffic
 00700288 329708 count ip from 192.168.1.3 8080 to any
 
 # Match everything else
 00800  0  0 count ip from not 192.168.1.3 8080 to any
 
 Can anyone tell me what I am missing?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Drew

Probably because the not applies just to the address, and not to the port
number.

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wavelan lucent

2003-03-25 Thread Jose Weyne Nunes Marcelino
Hi. I am trying install Wavelan Lucent (pcmcia orinoco silver) in 
freebsd 4.5 but I donït have sucesss. On boot arise the follow message:

pccardd[42]: No card in database for (null)((null))
pccardd[42]: pccardd started


Thanks some help.

Ceara


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/kernel: file: table is full

2003-03-25 Thread Worth Bishop
I'm running FreeBSD 4.2, Apache Webserver, and send ~20k e-mails to opt-in 
subscribers daily. I am regularly seeing the message /kernel: file: table is 
full in my messages log.

Can anyone tell me what this signifies and how to correct this condition?

Thanks,

Worth Bishop

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Re: /kernel: file: table is full

2003-03-25 Thread Francesco Casadei
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 04:41:27PM -0500, Worth Bishop wrote:
 I'm running FreeBSD 4.2, Apache Webserver, and send ~20k e-mails to opt-in 
 subscribers daily. I am regularly seeing the message /kernel: file: table is 
 full in my messages log.
 
 Can anyone tell me what this signifies and how to correct this condition?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Worth Bishop
 
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This is a FAQ:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#FILE-TABLE-FULL

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Re: /kernel: file: table is full

2003-03-25 Thread Philip Hallstrom
play around with and read up on...

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On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Worth Bishop wrote:

 I'm running FreeBSD 4.2, Apache Webserver, and send ~20k e-mails to opt-in
 subscribers daily. I am regularly seeing the message /kernel: file: table is
 full in my messages log.

 Can anyone tell me what this signifies and how to correct this condition?

 Thanks,

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Re: /kernel: file: table is full

2003-03-25 Thread Jim Mock
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 at 16:41:27 -0500, Worth Bishop wrote:
 I'm running FreeBSD 4.2, Apache Webserver, and send ~20k e-mails to
 opt-in subscribers daily. I am regularly seeing the message /kernel:
 file: table is full in my messages log.
 
 Can anyone tell me what this signifies and how to correct this
 condition?

Increase maxusers in your kernel config and recompile.  Search the mail
archives and/or Google for more info.

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send-pr to different smtp server

2003-03-25 Thread Khairil Yusof
Is there a setting/environment variable so that send-pr uses a different
smtp server (eg. my isp?) other than local sendmail?

This is so I can send-pr, without it getting rejected.

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Re: send-pr to different smtp server

2003-03-25 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2003-03-26 07:12, Khairil Yusof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a setting/environment variable so that send-pr uses a
 different smtp server (eg. my isp?) other than local sendmail?

 This is so I can send-pr, without it getting rejected.

The correct fix is to configure your mail transfer agent properly.
Are you getting failure notices back when you send-pr?  What is the
exact message that the failure notice contains?

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Re: /usr/share/man - Rules for showing/gernerating manual pages

2003-03-25 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2003-03-25 14:48, parv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Could somebody tell me what are the rules for showing/generating man
 pages in (man|cat)? directories (in /usr/share/man)?

 Given that i upgrade from source, are some of the man pages in
 /usr/share/man available only pre-formatted (in cat? directories not
 in man?)?

 (I am cleaning up /usr, so i want to throw out the rotten things.)

Manpages are an integral part of the program source for many of the
base system utilities.  Therefore, it's difficult to run just `one'
command and have all the manpages that `installworld' gives you.

But you can safely delete (or simply move away) the existing
/usr/share directory right before `make installworld'...

Try this:

# cd /usr
# mv share share.old
# mtree -deU  /etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist

and then run `make installworld' in /usr/src.  After installworld
finishes successfully, you can delete share.old.  It's no longer
needed (unless you have manually installed stuff in there).

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Re: LVM / Vinum

2003-03-25 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Tuesday, 25 March 2003 at  8:40:26 +, james wrote:
 Hi Greg

 Thanks for the reply, appreciate it!

 On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

 I'm very used to using LVM on Linux, AIX, HP/UX etc, and I want to be able
 to similar stuff on fbsd. I've had a play with Vinum, and I'm just
 wondering if there are any other alternatives?

 There's also RAIDFrame.

 I'll look into that, but will stick to Vinum for now. I actually work for
 Veritas so it's a shame VM isn't on freebsd :)

What important VxVM functionality is missing in Vinum?

 Also, is it possible to extend / shrink volumes once they have been
 created?

 Yes.  Add or remove subdisks to/from a plex.

 Is this also true for striped volumes? It seems this is not possible
 from the documentation I've found on the web, but I know that
 documentation can be out of date.

No, this is still not possible.

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printing worked fine yesterday, today prints junk

2003-03-25 Thread chip wiegand
Yesterday, I was printing .jpg images just fine, from XV. Today I try to
print some more and all I get are pages with a little bit of junk on the
first line, many many pages like this. I reset the printer, clear the
queue, even unplug/plug in the usb cable. No good. 

Any ideas why this is?

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Re: usb device driver skeleton?

2003-03-25 Thread taxman
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 12:15 pm, David Rio wrote:
 Hi all:

 I want to port a linux device driver that I did to *BSD. I would

That would be great.

 like to know if there is some source of information to develope
 usb device drivers in freebsd. Handbook talks about usb in general,
 an about device drivers but not about usb device drivers. My last
 option is to read some usb DD already coded but before that I would like
 know if there is some other beginner source of information.

Yep, the thing you need is the developers handbook.  You can get to it from 
the other docs page.  Here is the USB section:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/usb.html

Beyond that, the source of other drivers will be what you need.  I think 
you'll want to look at the ugen(4) manpage and code too,

Good luck

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Re: dmesg Analysis

2003-03-25 Thread Bob Perry

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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: dmesg Analysis



 - Original Message -
 From: taxman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Bob Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Josh Paetzel
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:13 PM
 Subject: Re: dmesg Analysis


  On Monday 24 March 2003 09:48 pm, Bob Perry wrote:
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 09:08:31PM -0500, Bob Perry wrote:
 I recently upgraded/reinstalled 4.7 RELEASE and apparently lost
use
 of
   my
 SCSI tape backup system.  The dmesg command indicates that FreeBSD
 found
   the
 controller and tape but I don't understand much more than that.

 Does anyone know where I might find some documentation which would
   explain
 output resulting from running dmesg?  For instance, one of the
lines
   reads:
 sa0 at adv0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
   
I don't know of any docs that really explain reading a dmesg in
 detail,
  
   but
  
I'd be willing to help you sort your issues if you posted your
dmesg.
  
   Thanks Josh,
  
   I have a SCSI Seagate TapeStor system that worked fine under 4.5
 RELEASE.
   It worked equally as well when I tried a binary upgrade to 4.7.  There
 were
   too many other problems with the upgrade so later I did a complete
 install
   of 4.7.  This is where I found that my tape system no longer responded
 to
   any mt commands.
 
  What errors do you get?  Its always good to include those.

 The errors are:
 w/tape inserted Input/Output error
 wo/tape inserted Device not configured
 
   I ran the command dmesg | grep sa0 for the tape device and got the
   following:
   sa0 at adv0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
   sa0: Seagate STT2N 6451 Removable Sequential Access
SCSI-2
   device
   sa0: 10,000 MB/s transfers (10,000 MHz, offset 15)
  
   Also ran dmesg | grep adv0 for the controller:
   adv0: AdvanSys Ultra SCSI Host Adapter SCSI ID 7, queue depth
 240
   adv0: AdvanSys ASC3030/50 SCSI controller port 0xb400-0xb4ff
 mem
   0x500-0xd5ff irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0
  
   My  kernel SCSI controller data reads:
   adv0at isa?
   My kernel SCSI peripheral data reads:
   saSequential Access (tape, etc)
  
   The best I can pull from this is that FreeBSD finds the tape and
 controller
   when it boots.
 
  Yep, that's exactly it.  So since it sees it, I don't have any idea what
 would
  cause the problem in it not working.  As I mentioned, you'll have to
 include
  the error.
  Since it's not likely a problem in how FreeBSD sees the device, the
links
 on
  how to read dmesg will not help you that much, but hopefully will be
  instructive anyway.
 
  Tim

Due to the timing of the whole event, I never gave the hardware a thorough
check.  I checked the connections but nothing more.

I forgot to check the two-week old Travan 20GB tape cartridge.  It was
broke!

I stuck in an older (3 year old) cartridge and it works just fine.

Thanks to everyone for your time and input.  I won't forget this one.

Bob


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sockets

2003-03-25 Thread Jesus Daniel Valencia Sanchez
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hello

I'm using R4.6.2 and when i try to compile anything with the file 
sys/socket.h i get tons of error messages INSIDE that file.  is there 
anything i should know about it?

any help will be very appreciated

thank you

Daniel Valencia

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Re: sockets

2003-03-25 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2003-03-25 19:07, Jesus Daniel Valencia Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm using R4.6.2 and when i try to compile anything with the file
 sys/socket.h i get tons of error messages INSIDE that file.  is
 there anything i should know about it?

 any help will be very appreciated

Show us the exact command-line options you're using to compile your
programs with and the errors you're getting.

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drive image dd booting backup question

2003-03-25 Thread trader
Hi,

I have two identical (model/size/etc.) hard drives 
in a computer, both of which are recognized by the 
PC's BIOS, both of which are listed in dmesg as ad0 
and ad1, respectively, and both of which appear as 
/dev/ad0 and /dev/ad1.  One is master, one is slave.  
The slave (ad1) is never mounted.

My goal was to install FreeBSD and set up apps 
for a user on the 'master' drive (ad0), then 'image' 
the drive over to ad1 (to produce backup media for 
the project) using the following command:

dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=512

So far, so good, everything works great.  dd 
reports that everything went smoothly.  Then I 
attempt to boot off the that slave drive, after 
performing the following steps to make what was 
once ad1 is now the primary ad0 drive:

* disengaged the drive data cable from ad0
* set ad1's jumper to a single drive
* changed the bios to recognize only one drive

When I try to boot off what was once the slave 
drive (ad1), however, I get errors that /boot/loader 
and /kernel can't be found.

 FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
boot:
Not ufs
No /kernel

Does anybody have any thoughts on what I might 
have missed?  Google and newsgroup searches have 
not produced an answer that's helpful.  Of course,
I hope I haven't committed some remedial error and 
wasted your time with this post.

Thanks,

G. Sherman


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Re: drive image dd booting backup question a non-issue

2003-03-25 Thread trader
My apologies...

The BIOS just needed a sharp smack up against the 
head, and it has booted just fine.

Old hardware... {mutters}

Thanks again,

G. Sherman

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Re: multi-port serial IO support

2003-03-25 Thread Peter Losher
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 08:29 am, Douglas K. Rand wrote:

 Tom WARNING: driver rp should register devices with make_dev() (dev_t =
 Tom #rp/0x10082)

 While I haven't tested it, I expect that this message goes away with
 FreeBSD 4.7. The rp driver got some work done to it between 4.6 and
 4.7.

Still happens on my FreeBSD 4.{6,7} console servers @work, where we use 
RocketPorts pretty widely. (We even have some old RP ISA cards floating 
around that are still in use)

WARNING: driver rp should register devices with make_dev() (dev_t = 
#rp/0x10014)

I did hear that a new rp driver (nrp?) had been written/committed in -CURRENT 
sometime late last year, and apparently made it in 5.0-RELEASE, but hadn't 
been back-ported to -STABLE yet (but patches have been floating around in 
the archives).  I haven't had a chance to test it yet, although one of the 
things the new driver apparently fixes is you are now able to use more than 
one PCI card in a box.  (we have some installs where we need a second PCI 
card to drive a third/fourth pod, where this would be useful)

 We just make our own cables and ends. Using flat satin cable, putting
 the RJ45 ends on is trivial, and Comtrol's pin out allows a cross over
 cable to be built by putting the RJ45 connector on one end of the
 cable on backwards.

That's what we do here... (tangled in a web of cat-5 and silver satin cables 
at the moment)

Best Wishes - Peter
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Re: Problems making ogle and libdvdread

2003-03-25 Thread Peter Leftwich
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Stephen Hilton wrote:
 On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:34:21 -0800 (PST), Peter Leftwich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Actually, switch the order of those.  I'm trying to make or put libdvdread
  in the right place so when I run `./configure` in the ogle-0.9.0 directory
  it won't keep complaining about libdvdread.  Can someone please comment?
 
  I emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] asking for an ogle package but I don't know
  where that request will go...  Thanks everybody, please CC replies to me.
 Peter, Have you tried using the ports/multimedia/ogle port ?
 it is working well for me on my 4.8RC box. Regards,
 Stephen Hilton
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Thank you for the idea and encouragement, but I remain anti-ports.  I
don't see any good in a process whereby the user must download all in order
to, if he or she wishes at a later date, only install or activate a
handful of those applications.  Why work from the base of the pyramid to
the tip?  That's just my rant, sorry to burden you all.

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President  Founder, Video2Video Services
Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA
http://Www.Video2Video.Com
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Re: Problems making ogle and libdvdread

2003-03-25 Thread Martin Karlsson
* Peter Leftwich [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-03-26 00.10 -0500]:
[...snip]
 Thank you for the idea and encouragement, but I remain anti-ports.  I
 don't see any good in a process whereby the user must download all in order
 to, if he or she wishes at a later date, only install or activate a
 handful of those applications.  Why work from the base of the pyramid to
 the tip?  That's just my rant, sorry to burden you all.

Hi.

You can make use of the ports collection without actually having it:
point a web browser to: URL:http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi

What I mean is that it can be useful to look at a port's Makefile (and
sometimes it's patches) and see e.g. what configure options the port of
the app in question uses.

Just a thought.

Best regards,
-- 
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HELP TV

2003-03-25 Thread
Help to settle problem with driver and installation them on equipment 
TV Eline Vision TVMaster-2000 (Chips philips saa7130)
OS Freebsd 4.6
Is it Beforehand thanked.
Aleksey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Eline Vision TVMaster-2000
 philips saa7130
OS Freebsd 4.6
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flat hippie

2003-03-25 Thread Matt Navarre

-- 
 It was a hard sell, since he's a database person, and as far as I've seen, 
once those database worms eat into your brain, it's hard to ever get anything 
practical done again. To a database person, every nail looks like a thumb. Or 
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filesystem problem resolved - /sbin/mount was causing it

2003-03-25 Thread Arie J. Gerszt
Hi Everybody

The problem cleared out. I now know what, but not why :) For those of you
interested.
I have a 2nd disk in the machine (ad3) which has a backup parition (ad3f).
This partition
is mounted to a mountpoint (guess: in root) to /mnt/vol1.

For strange reasons (who knows why?) mount fails (see below), therefor the
volume gets
not mounted and the backup sits in the mountpoint directory, filling up...
/.

Btw: I moved all /modules /sbin /bin to their right places back.

Now the mount fails as showed here. The backup partition is not mountalbe,
but another,
on the same disk, is...

caramba# mount /dev/ad3f /mnt/vol1
mount: /dev/ad3f: Operation not permitted
caramba# mount /dev/ad3f /backup/slice1
mount: /dev/ad3f: Operation not permitted
caramba#

here another partition:

caramba# mount
/dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local)
/dev/ad0s1e on /usr (ufs, local)
/dev/ad0s1g on /usr/www (ufs, local)
/dev/ad0s1f on /var (ufs, local)
procfs on /proc (procfs, local)
/dev/ad3e on /mnt/vol1 (ufs, local)

caramba# umount /mnt/vol1/
caramba#

the disklabel entry:

caramba# disklabel ad3
# /dev/ad3c:
type: ESDI
disk: ad3s1
label:
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 63
tracks/cylinder: 16
sectors/cylinder: 1008
cylinders: 31206
sectors/unit: 31456593
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0   # milliseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
drivedata: 0

8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  c: 314565930unused0 0 # (Cyl.0 -
31206*)
  e:  419430404.2BSD 1024  819216   # (Cyl.0 -
4161*)
  f: 12582912  41943044.2BSD 1024  819216   # (Cyl. 4161*-
16644*)
  g: 12582912 167772164.2BSD 1024  819216   # (Cyl. 16644*-
29127*)
  h:  2096465 293601284.2BSD 1024  819216   # (Cyl. 29127*-
31206*)
caramba#


-- no, i can stop backups for the moment, or repoint them to another
partition, e.g.
ad3g, but why does mount not work on that respectively give operation not
permitted?

Thanks
Arie


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Re: filesystem problem resolved - /sbin/mount was causing it

2003-03-25 Thread Subhro Sankha Kar
Arie J. Gerszt writes: 

Hi Everybody 

The problem cleared out. I now know what, but not why :) For those of you
interested.
I have a 2nd disk in the machine (ad3) which has a backup parition (ad3f).
This partition
is mounted to a mountpoint (guess: in root) to /mnt/vol1. 

For strange reasons (who knows why?) mount fails (see below), therefor the
volume gets
not mounted and the backup sits in the mountpoint directory, filling up...
/. 

Btw: I moved all /modules /sbin /bin to their right places back. 

Now the mount fails as showed here. The backup partition is not mountalbe,
but another,
on the same disk, is... 

	caramba# mount /dev/ad3f /mnt/vol1
	mount: /dev/ad3f: Operation not permitted
	caramba# mount /dev/ad3f /backup/slice1
	mount: /dev/ad3f: Operation not permitted
	caramba# 

here another partition: 

	caramba# mount
	/dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local)
	/dev/ad0s1e on /usr (ufs, local)
	/dev/ad0s1g on /usr/www (ufs, local)
	/dev/ad0s1f on /var (ufs, local)
	procfs on /proc (procfs, local)
	/dev/ad3e on /mnt/vol1 (ufs, local) 

	caramba# umount /mnt/vol1/
	caramba# 

the disklabel entry: 

caramba# disklabel ad3
# /dev/ad3c:
type: ESDI
disk: ad3s1
label:
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 63
tracks/cylinder: 16
sectors/cylinder: 1008
cylinders: 31206
sectors/unit: 31456593
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0   # milliseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
drivedata: 0 

8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  c: 314565930unused0 0 # (Cyl.0 -
31206*)
  e:  419430404.2BSD 1024  819216   # (Cyl.0 -
4161*)
  f: 12582912  41943044.2BSD 1024  819216   # (Cyl. 4161*-
16644*)
  g: 12582912 167772164.2BSD 1024  819216   # (Cyl. 16644*-
29127*)
  h:  2096465 293601284.2BSD 1024  819216   # (Cyl. 29127*-
31206*)
caramba# 

-- no, i can stop backups for the moment, or repoint them to another
partition, e.g.
ad3g, but why does mount not work on that respectively give operation not
permitted? 

Thanks
Arie
Hi,
Are you trying to mount the backup volume as root? By default only root is 
allowed to mount and unmount volumes. Also check if the mount pouint is 
having write permissions when you try to mount the volume. 

Subhro Sankha Kar
IIIT-Calcutta 

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