RE: When Unix Stops Being Fun
I think what you are going through is something people go through no matter what their career path is. I would say when you reach that point is when you have to decide is this something I want to do for the next n years. The first part of my life I was a musician and did all sorts of gigs from recording, touring, casuals. After many years I hit the same point you are at now. Music just became a job it wasn't fun anymore and that is when I got into computers. I hit the same point with computers after about four or five years and went back to music. After I year I was missing computer work and returned to IT work. I have been there ever since. That is about ten years now. I would say your doing the right thing, talking through it. If you like computers a lot maybe you just need to find a specialty to peak your interest and make it exciting again. If you are not sure you want to continue, well try something else out in the background and see if it excites you. Take some night classes in what you would like to do instead of being an SA. See if after a few months of classes and learning a new career if it still excites you. If it doesn't you haven't lost your job in the computer industry. Last some people a job is just a job, a way to pay the bills and make money so they can enjoy life when not at work. They become very good at what they do, and they keep there skills up to keep being a valuable employee. They do work they enjoy, but they don't look for work to excite them. They leave work and enjoy their family, friends, and hobbies. Maybe you fall into that category. Being an SA is just an job you enjoy and you need to find new things to do when off work that interest you. Good Luck, Steve B. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Vollenweider Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 8:50 PM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: When Unix Stops Being Fun This has nothing to do with technical problems, but rather it's more of a request for moral support. This may seem disjointed, so bear with me. I've been using FreeBSD for over six months now, but I've been using Unix-like operating systems for almost two years. I started with Red Hat Linux back when Red Hat was making and selling their consumer-grade version of Red Hat Linux, then switched to Debian before going to FreeBSD last March. I now also run NetBSD on one of my machines. Through all this, I've developed a passion for this type of OS, seeing the elegance, performance, and sheer power of Unix. This has affected me to the point of me changing my career path. Before I got into these OSs, I wanted to get into radio. Now I'd rather either be a system administrator or run my own consulting business for entities that use these types of OSs. But herein lies the problem I've been having lately: while searching around for what I'd need to know to become a system administrator, I came across this page: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/8/13/131727/462 and I'm overwhelmed by the sheer amount of knowledge I'd have to gain. It took me almost two years to get to where I am today, and it looks like I've barely scratched the surface of what I'd need to know. But now, I feel like instead of learning things on my own for fun, I have to learn other things I don't really have a need to learn for myself or that I want to, just so that I can apply that to oth er peoples' situations. The result is that lately learning these OSs has become more of a chore than a fun hobby, and I'm still intimidated by what I need to learn to get to where I want to go. It almost seems like it's not worth it. Now, being that I know there are some very experienced people on this list, I'm betting that I'm not the only one that has experienced this, that learning new things in Unix-like OSs becomes more of a chore than something to do for fun. My question is, what advice would you have for dealing with this? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 10/1/2004 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IP address conflicts
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bart Silverstrim Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IP address conflicts On Oct 2, 2004, at 2:27 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: The problem is that if the attacker has a modicum of intelligence they will have done this to someone elses' system. Yet you say this is taking place in colleges... :-) ROTFL This is a college. For example, someone in a dorm room just surfing the web gets up to take a piss. As soon as they walk out the door and go down the hall, some joker down the hall runs into their room and in a few seconds changes the IP number of their PC to that of the mailserver then runs out. Bullshit like this happens all the time. Funny how just yesterday there was some slash story about users not being careful with security. My systems this wouldn't be effective. Screen saver is hot cornered and password protected. In the school office, control-alt-del-k. When I was in college, there was this thing where your friends would steal your mattress...mattress police. They would hide it somewhere on campus. Never happened to my roommate and I, because we carried our keys with us and locked the bedroom when we weren't there (or in the living room connected to the hallway); no reason to leave the door open if we weren't there, and our community belongings were already outside of that room for the other roommates and friends to use. Yup. This is self-defense in any college setting, there's too many juveniles around. We try to have a policy where I work where if your account is used to do something against the rules, like browse porn, you must have given that person your account password or you left your account logged in and walked away. There's no way to prove who the body was sitting at that console, so it is assumed to be you. You get in trouble for it. We try to have a policy where I work of what you call common courtesy. That is, the stuff on someone's desk is their property and if you have to touch it, you don't damage it. Every once in a while we run across someone who don't understand this, they get away with this for a while but sooner or later we reach out and fire them. Apparently, they all go to work at your place. You allowed it, you were irresponsible, and you're going to get hassled for it until you learn to take responsibility for your belongings (including your identity) within reason. It is not unreasonable to expect people to not give their passwords out and to log off of a console when they're done using it. I think the double negatives there are a bit too much for most people. It is unreasonable to expect people to have to act like they are in kindergarden when they are in the middle of a network room that has a sum total of 20 people who can access it, all of whom are paid more than 50K a year. Naturally, if your working with a system in an insecure area, you follow secure procedures. For example if your at a customer site you assume that their machine is infected with a key logger, and don't touch anything at the mothership that isn't password-aged regularly. Same goes if your traveling and using something like an Internet kiosk. But people should not have to be looking over their shoulders where they live, eat, sleep. This is a college, not a kindergarden. Your logic is of the variety of well, the security scanners at the airports didn't do what they were supposed to be doing, so we deserved to have the WTC collapsed. In other words, it only appears on the surface to be reasonable, and that is because the problems don't involve people dying. But it is fatally flawed. If the world really operated like you seem to think, it would be anarchy. Your reactions are your policies and your rules; if they work for you, that's all and good. If students continue to play stupid and allow things like this to happen to their computers, then so be it. Or you can nail them a couple times and have them wise up for it. Much, much better to nail up the actual criminals not the victims. The only solution is to use managed switches with a modicum of intelligence to where you can build a MAC filter that disallows packets that originate from the end users that have the same MAC as the mailserver, (to block spoofers) and that allows you to dump the internal MAC table. This is a good infrastructure to the network change and it would also solve the problem. I thought he was having money troubles and needed a quick solution to try solving the problem, while this solution would be done in the future once funds are released and time can be allocated to switch things over. It sounded like his network was somewhat in shambles at the moment. He is having money troubles. However, just because he is
Re: When Unix Stops Being Fun
On Saturday 02 October 2004 08:50 pm, Dave Vollenweider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has nothing to do with technical problems, but rather it's more of a request for moral support. This may seem disjointed, so bear with me. I've been using FreeBSD for over six months now, but I've been using Unix-like operating systems for almost two years. I started with Red Hat Linux back when Red Hat was making and selling their consumer-grade version of Red Hat Linux, then switched to Debian before going to FreeBSD last March. I now also run NetBSD on one of my machines. Through all this, I've developed a passion for this type of OS, seeing the elegance, performance, and sheer power of Unix. This has affected me to the point of me changing my career path. Before I got into these OSs, I wanted to get into radio. Now I'd rather either be a system administrator or run my own consulting business for entities that use these types of OSs. But herein lies the problem I've been having lately: while searching around for what I'd need to know to become a system administrator, I came across this page: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/8/13/131727/462 and I'm overwhelmed by the sheer amount of knowledge I'd have to gain. It took me almost two years to get to where I am today, and it looks like I've barely scratched the surface of what I'd need to know. But now, I feel like instead of learning things on my own for fun, I have to learn other things I don't really have a need to learn for myself or that I want to, just so that I can apply that to oth er peoples' situations. The result is that lately learning these OSs has become more of a chore than a fun hobby, and I'm still intimidated by what I need to learn to get to where I want to go. It almost seems like it's not worth it. Now, being that I know there are some very experienced people on this list, I'm betting that I'm not the only one that has experienced this, that learning new things in Unix-like OSs becomes more of a chore than something to do for fun. My question is, what advice would you have for dealing with this? Well, I can only tell you about my own experience, but perhaps it will help. I have always been a techie, getting my first computer at the age of 14 - an Apple IIe. Learned some Basic, some peeks and pokes and even some assembly. But I found that I also liked music, and tended more to that side of things for the latter half of my teens and into my 20s, though I never went to college (started a few times, but didn't know what I wanted to do). Somehow I ended up doing web design for a band in my mid 20s, and even though the band broke up, I was good enough at it that it became my career in 2000, right when the dot-com bubble started to burst. I was 30, just starting my career with no degree but making $50k (not great, but not bad), and worked for three different failed companies in the course of a year and a half. Most of this time I was using Windows, but I used various flavors of *nix during the course of my work, mostly Red Hat, plus I installed SuSE at home and used it occasionally. My specialty was front-end web development - I found it increasingly difficult to find work from 2001 onward, especially because I had no strong programming skills, but could do JavaScript and some other scripting, and I also didn't have credentials as a graphic designer, even though I could do it by gut instinct (which sometimes isn't good enough). Eventually I came to hate doing web design, partially because I couldn't find paying work, but mostly because it's not the right discipline for me anyway - it sort of fell in my lap, and I made a go of it. I've been bouncing around between low paying jobs since then, wondering how the hell to get my career started again without going back to school for four years to get a computer science degree, when I discovered FreeBSD. That was last spring. I now know exactly what I want to do, which is to get that computer science degree and then some, specializing in systems administration, and to go into teaching at the college level. First, I know this is a hard road, especially at the age of 34, but I am tired of not *really* knowing my stuff, so to speak. I've been a techie my whole life and even made some money at it, but I've gotten by without having the deep knowledge required to really understand the workings of an *nix OS such as FreeBSD, which I very much want to do, and plus it's time to get serious. I've also found that the systems administration/network end of the spectrum is what suits me best, but I don't care about getting paid big money as much as wanting to teach others (and, concurrently, also have the time and resources to devote to projects such as FreeBSD). It's not a particularly glorious career choice, and if I were a bit different I might want to really go for the corporate path and a fat salary, but honestly I'm happier not
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Re: When Unix Stops Being Fun
Ironically, I'm switching to FreeBSD because I'm already tired. My bones are aching from years of abuse. I'm tired of.. ..being told what I can and can't do with my computers. Did you know many scanners and photocopiers cannot reproduce money? Apparently the US government has worked with the hardware manufactures to perform this feat. What's next? Probably not being able to listen to music that I'm not certified as owning. Or being able to rip a DVD I purchased. ..of not being in control of my computer. The two straws that broke my Wincamel's back were SP2 killing my machine (which I eventually solved with a BIOS update), and then (less seriously) not being able to set the theme of the task bar to the Win 2000 theme. Now I'm going to run GNOME and FVWM2, which I will be in full control of my desktop. No weird crap anymore. ..of skills becoming outdated. I was a master of the Commodore. I was a master of AmigaDOS. I was a master of MS-DOS. I was a master of Win95. I was a master of Windows NT4. Then a funny thing happened, I realized if I spent the time to learn UNIX, I could run it for the rest of life, without having to learn a new OS every time Microsoft needed to keep their stock price up. ..of GUI's. What a marvelous thing to be able to shell in to my own computer, from anywhere in the world, from many kind of computers - and check my mail, read newsgroups, write programs, etc. ..of having to enter serial numbers for tons of software I legitimately purchased. The worst is having to type in Microsoft's 44-digit activation codes anytime I want to change my HD, say from RAID 0 to RAID 1. Normally this involves a call to India. ..of purchasing software. Why drive to CompUSA and purchase WordPerfect, when I go to my ports directory and install OpenOffice? Actually I've done both, and going to the directory was a lot cheaper. Why buy MS-SQL or Sybase when I can get Interbase, MySQL, or PostreSQL for free? ..of stupid software. Firefox is so much better than IE, it's hard to where to begin. Throw in the Adblock extension, and it's the perfect tabbed browsing experience. IE is a nightmare of fear and chaos, Hey someone sent me a cool JPEG to view, OH ITS A VIRUS! ..of Linux distributions with fatal flaws. I went on a giant search to pick the perfect Linux distro, and I ended up selecting FreeBSD. Every single distro had some aspect I didn't like. ..of proprietary formats. All the emails I lost over the years that were in some kind of Outlook format that at the time I was either too lazy or too ignorant, to make a back up of. ..of malware. UNIX has been secure since it supported multiple users, which was a very long time ago. Windows has never been, and likely will never be, secure. I bought my brother a Mac, he sometimes calls to see if he needs to be concerned about the latest virus making the rounds. No., I tell him. My point is, the knowledge you gain about UNIX is your's forever. The freedom is forever. The control is forever. If want to be a sysadmin, you don't have to be master of everything. You just need to be on the path - and you are. thx! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
python 2.2.3
Got a problem; my server was upgraded, and now runs python 2.2.1. BUT, that vesion has a bug. The attempt to upgrade to the next and presumably repaired version failed. My friend and mentor reccomeded this on icq: Well. You can always go to FreeBSD.org. Find out who the package maintainer is for the ports collection for python /usr/ports/lang/python and ask about a FreeBSD 4.6 Makefile for python 2.2.3. So here I am. May I have a Makefile please? -- -Blessed Be! Kirk Bailey kniht http://www.tinylist-org/ Freedom software +-+ Free list services -http://www.listville.net/ | BOX | http://www.howlermonkey.net/ - Free Email service +-+ In HER Service- http://www.pinellasintergroupsociety.org/ think http://www.sacredelectron.org/ - my personal screed pit. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IP address conflicts
Well, you could move all of the servers onto a separate network to any of the individual client machines (and make sure that the server network isn't accessible from any of the network ports your clients have access to, clearly). That way, even if one of your pet idiots decides to 'borrow' a server IP address, the network routing means that all they are going to do is hurt themselves. Think of this for a second. Right now he has maybe 4-5 different servers that people are putting the IP numbers on. Once you move all those servers onto a separate subnet, now all the little twits have to do is put the IP number of the gateway router onto their systems, then the entire subnet that ALL the servers are on becomes inaccessible. if you have 20 buildings, you must create 20 subnets as minimun. try to isolate the public ports (any one can conect) like computers labs rooms from the used by people that work in the school (administratives offices) also, try to isolate floors or rooms so you can arrive to this room and review the pc that are connected (the subnet may be of 32 or 64 hosts) put an special area (on his own subnet) by building to allow students to connect his cumputers. request help from the labs administrators and the workers of the school to watch for person that get pc or laptop inside labs (maybe must search inside bags) and if the problem happen, at least you know some faces. maps ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenOffice 1.1.3 package
Hi all I just installed OpenOffice 1.1.3, via a package, on -CURRENT from a few days ago. pkg_add complained about not being able to find XFree86 and imake 4.3.0 (I think) and perl - which is odd because I do have perl installed - so I used -f to force it. However, when I try and run openoffice-1.1.3 or openoffice-1.1.3-setup it just sits there using 100% CPU time in soffice.bin or setup.bin; I have to kill the process off using -KILL. Is this a known problem? I also tried compiling from source on 5.3-BETA5 before I updated to CURRENT and that failed, although I forgot to look why. Thanks ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vinum
drive a device /dev/ad0 drive b device /dev/ad3 ... ** 1 Can't initialize drive a: Operation not supported by device ... illuminating. Is this a common problem? How do I fix it? I've made sure that the disks in question have been labeled using disklabel -e as vinum volumes. What else? I suspect the problem is that you are supposed to specify the vinum volume; not the drive. That is, a vinum drive is a vinum partition on a physical device, not the physical device itself. So try specifying /dev/ad0s1a or /dev/ad0a or whatever is the name of your vinum labled partition. -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.scode.org ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: When Unix Stops Being Fun
bsdfsse said the following on 10/3/2004 3:12 AM: Ironically, I'm switching to FreeBSD because I'm already tired. My bones are aching from years of abuse. I'm tired of.. MuchSnippage Hear Hear!! ..of Linux distributions with fatal flaws. I went on a giant search to pick the perfect Linux distro, and I ended up selecting FreeBSD. Every single distro had some aspect I didn't like. I started with FreeBSD in the Fall of 2000, when I started at Lumeta. I loved it so much that when I built my personal server, I used it (and Wing's now running on 4.10-STABLE, and when 5.3 is out of BETA I'll most likely upgrade it...). I had played with RedHat (3 or 4.. I still have the CDs somewhere!), I had used Unix System V (on a Unix PC (ATT PC 7300) no less!) in the early 90's, but had ended up working with Windows mostly at my jobs, and thus, at home. Every time there was a new version of Windows, there were new idiosyncracies and more bullshit to cram into my head. When I started at Lumeta, I found those old Unix skills creeping back out of my memory--and they STILL WORKED! *gasp* ;) Things that attracted me to FBSD: 1) The ease of the Ports collection. No messy rpm commands to have to memorize or read man pages on--just cd /usr/ports/tree/package make install clean -- Wow. How much easier can it get? Oh I know... when you don't want the port anymore? cd /usr/ports/tree/package make deinstall ;) 2) The support in the community--I've never lacked at being able to find help. Granted, this is more Unix-oriented than FBSD-oriented.. But I have to admit that the mailing lists have been a *HUGE* help when I've needed it. 3) Finding that O'Reilly hosted articles about *BSD (Like Dru Lavigne's many articles discussing the ports tree and other nifty things in FreeBSD, and how to maintain keep them in tip-top shape)! 4) Finding that I could actually *run* more than, say, 2 or 3 services on a particular server! (The first FBSD server I helped configure at Lumeta served as our: general development, Samba-shared, user home, network print server, DNS, DHCP, Apache, RT, email server--I was amazed you could run all that on one box without it crashing daily, like Windows would at the time!) 5) The ease with which I was able to take an existing port (misc/instant-workstation) and make a Lumeta package which would run over the course of a weekend, hands-free, and build a developer's workstation to our specs! For free! I didn't need to learn any weird packaging script language (read: InstallShield), nor did I have to worry incessantly about how many licenses do we have left for ... like I had to with our Windows boxen. (There are others, of course, but these are what come to mind immediately...) ..of proprietary formats. All the emails I lost over the years that were in some kind of Outlook format that at the time I was either too lazy or too ignorant, to make a back up of. Yeah--early on I switched from Outcrack to Eudora, which, though better, still wasn't perfect--but at least it was in a Unix-like format! :) My point is, the knowledge you gain about UNIX is your's forever. The freedom is forever. The control is forever. If want to be a sysadmin, you don't have to be master of everything. You just need to be on the path - and you are. It's not all about what you have memorized. It's knowing where to look for the information. I have *no* qualms telling people in interviews, when they ask me a question I don't know the answer to off the top of my head, that I could easily find that information via man command or a Google search. In general, I have found that if the person interviewing you Has Clueage, that's better to them than someone sitting there scratching their head going Um.. let me think... um... for a few minutes. Myself, I am preparing to migrate my home PC from WinXP to FreeBSD 5.x soon. Mostly because I'm sick of the stupid driver conflicts, spontaneous reboots where M$ blames my NVidia drivers, and software that ceases to work because of SP2 (my screensavers, no less. And--do they cease to work gracefully? Noo--that'd be too polite--it just locks the PC with a black screen and a mouse pointer which is the only thing that responds to anything, forcing a reboot. Nice eh?). I'm already using Firefox, Thunderbird, and OO.o, so the switch shouldn't be too bad :) Best, Glenn -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: When Unix Stops Being Fun
Ted Mittelstaedt [Sat, Oct 02, 2004 at 10:46:05PM -0700]: As an analogy - there's lots of people that know how to pull into a service station and add air to their car tires. But out of all those people that have learned how to do this only a tenth of them know that tire pressure rises when the tire gets warmer, and of those people, only another tenth WOULD ASSUME THAT THIS WOULD BE THE CASE IF THEY THOUGHT ABOUT IT because they actually understand what gas pressure is. And if one of the people in that group had never added air in his life to a tire, and you told him to go do it, he would not only be able to go do it, he would be able to add exactly the correct amount of air needed for the tire. I really liked that part about a sciencist! On the other hand, I think it is too enthusiastic, applying theory to practice needs a few things more... :) -- m ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: When Unix Stops Being Fun
Hi, I had a glance at that list you refer to and the article it refers to. Don't worry, you don't need to know and learn all that: copy files to and from a floppy disk?? I don't even remember when I had a computer with a floppy drive. On the other hand, the vi editor? Well, I have known people who wrote a 200 page astronomy thesis in latex using vi, but in most cases you won't use vi. So why is it important? Because it is so simple, it is one of the few things that you can rely on when your system has crashed. But even then, I actually know one SA whose Digital Unix crashed so hard that it could only run ed. Some things you want at almost all costs to avoid, NIS for example, and NIS+ in particular, I have found that most manuals say if you don't REALLY (and I mean REALLY) need it, don't use it. LDAP can replace NIS and solve many other problems at the same time, yet it's not on the list. Some of the things, you really already know: launch an application from the commandline? from GNOME? And some things you just can't learn before you need to: Basic trouble- shooting - what to do when your system just works?? :-) Mostly this list summarizes the tasks and tools you will likely be doing or using if you follow a path as SA. You don't need to know it all, it is far more important that you know where to look and can learn as needed. One thing I find missing though is security aspects which has been reduced to basic security. Today there are so many tools for system administration that this is not that complicated a task. There are only few to manage security. There's much to learn, so don't waste your time learning the things you don't need, often you will also be more motivated having a real problem to solve. I have found that the most valuable skill a good SA has is LAZINESS! Yup, but beware, there are two kinds: You can be lazy in the sence that you only do what is absolutely necessary and postpone it as much as posible - this is the negative kind. Then, on the other hand, you can be clever! Being clever allows you to minimize the work involved in any task and still get it done on time. So, when I refer to laziness, it's the second kind. For this reason, I'd recommend you to learn the tools, not the tasks. The tasks changes much more often than the tools. Learn the most power- full tools first, they'll get you far. Secondly, learn in general the differences between like products, know what are their strengths and weaknesses. This way you can choose the right tool to the right problem. Perl is a good hammer and bangs many nails quickly, but sometimes you need a screwdriver for the problem you have. Btw, Perl AFAIK is the true product of the clever laziness. It took me almost two years to get to where I am today, and it looks like I've barely scratched the surface of what I'd need to know. But now, I feel like instead of learning things on my own for fun, I have to learn other things I don't really have a need to learn for myself or that I want to, just so that I can apply that to other peoples' situations. Most work involves solving other peoples problems. When it comes to SA, I think it is much more fun to adminster real users. On my home network, I have three users, me, myself and my mirror image. I have to go look in the mirror to meet any of my users, and eventually I found that I just don't have enough problems to keep me occupied - that is now, after I switched to FreeBSD, before with RedHat linux, I could always do the occasional reinstall or sit down and try to trace the dependencies and with Windows I needed an assistant :-) On a real network you become the hero of the day and the one people love to hate. You get a big screen so you can hide behind it and your office appears empty. You get a huge number of interesting and very different tasks, and what you have tried at home you get to try on a much bigger scale - you can actually test things with real workload and not just simulate. You get access to tons of equipment - your servers may be a cluster or blade whatever, and not that old Pentium 133Mhz. You will likely be buying new equipment to test and play with, and if things works well, buy more to install. All that is fun. Then you will have users who will complain everyday about the same problems and who feel you should serve them first. There are tons of aspects to good system administration, not only the technical stuff. As the SA, you will be the one who enables people to communicate, you will be in the center of that communication, you will know things you don't want to know, and things you shouldn't. All these things makes it more interesting than your home network, I'd say. So keep up the good work ;-) and don't worry if you don't have the answer at hand - you can always say 42 .. :-) Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID:
Mail server questions (SMTP Auth, Imap and virtual domains)
Hi all, I've got a mail setup doing virtualhosts as described at http://www.penguinpowered.org/documentation/exim_virtualhosting.html My users can pull their mail down with POP, but have to use their ISP's SMTP server for outgoing mail. I'd like to do two things at this stage, and I'd appreciate any advice on pointers to help me achieve these: 1. Setup SMTP Auth with Exim so that they can use my boxes for outgoing SMTP. This would allow me to setup SPF on their domains as well, which would be a plus. 2. Setup a webmail solution. I'm currently using Squirrelmail for users that exist in /etc/passwd (not very many!), and am considering a migration to Horde/IMP. Near as I can tell though it's not the webmail client that matters, but the imap server. Does anyone know of an imap server that will do 'virtual mailboxes' like vm-pop3d does ? Thanks in advance, -- Wayne Pascoe(gpg --keyserver www.co.uk.pgp.net --recv-keys 79A7C870) A good sysadmin always carries around a few feet of fiber. If he gets lost, he simply drops the fiber on the ground, waits 10 minutes and asks the backhoe operator for directions - Bill Bradford ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache - how to redirect page not found
On Sunday 03 October 2004 00:10, David Banning wrote: I notice on some web sites when you try to load a page that does not exist, it directs the users browser to another page. How do I set that up in apache? If you have PHP installed, you can use the following PHP code: ?php header(Location: http://www.newurl.com;); ? Of course this has the beauty that you can set up a PHP script as a 404 handler, and if you know the old location of a page, then it is very trivial to automatically re-direct to this new location (since you know the path that was requested). We use something like this on the KDE web site: http://webcvs.kde.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/www/media/includes/classes/class_handler404.inc?rev=1.4 e.g. ?php include(handler.inc); $handler = new Handler404(); $handler-add(/anoncvs.html,http://developer.kde.org/source/anoncvs.html;); $handler-add(/family.html,/family/); ? where the 1st parameter to add() is the requested original URL, and the 2nd parameter is the URL to redirect to. -- Cheers, Chris Howells -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP ID: 0x33795A2C KDE/Qt/C++/PHP Developer: http://www.kde.org pgpiRW8odZkkW.pgp Description: PGP signature
HP LaserJet 1000
. HP LaserJet 1000 (USB) System FreeBSD 5.2.1 printer HP LaserJet 1000 PIII-1000/RAM 128/HDD 80/CD-ROM/ CUPS 1.1.21 cat sihp1000.dl /dev/ulpt0 input/output error lpinfo -v network socket network http network ipp network lpd direct parallel:/dev/lp1 serial serial:/dev/ttyS1?baud=115200 serial serial:/dev/ttyS2?baud=115200 direct usb:/dev/ulpt0 direct usb:/dev/unlpt Hello. I ask you to help with adjustment of printer HP LaserJet 1000 (USB) System FreeBSD 5.2.1 printer HP LaserJet 1000 PIII-1000/RAM 128/HDD 80/CD-ROM/ CUPS 1.1.21 At attempt cat sihp1000.dl/dev/ulpt0 The system gives out input/output error lpinfo-v network socket network http network ipp network lpd direct parallel:/dev/lp1 serial serial:/dev/ttyS1? baud=115200 serial serial:/dev/ttyS2? baud=115200 direct usb:/dev/ulpt0 direct usb:/dev/unlpt Lebedev Andrew ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tips for Teachers Issue 226
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plone 2.0.4
Hi All, Once I upgraded ports on my 4.10 server and installed from ports plone-2.0.4, I login as admin and try to click on the sharing tab, I get an error: You do not have sufficient privileges to view this page. If you believe you are receiving this message in error, please send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any help will be highly appreciated. Thank you ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Addendum: When Unix Stops Being Fun
I thank you all for your responses so far. I actually meant to post my original message to FreeBSD Newbies, but I posted it here by mistake. Since the damage has been done, I may as well continue. I just wanted to clarify a few things about where I'm coming from: 1) I'm not actually going for the RHCE certification. That page which talked about what would be required was just something I came across when I was Googling for tips on how to start a SA career. I mention it because most of the responses to the original question dealt more with system adiministration in general, and I thought it was worth paying attention to for that reason. 2) The one job I have right now that entails system administration is a volunteer job at my alma mater's student run radio station. They have four Windows boxes, a NetBSD box that I set up, and a Mac that I also want to put NetBSD on as soon as I can get it to boot the installer. Right now the problems I have to deal with mainly have to do with the automation software for two of the Windows boxes and getting at least one of the network cards for the NetBSD box registered with the university so that it can be on their network. My apologies for posting to the wrong list; that was dumb of me, I know. - Dave ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: When Unix Stops Being Fun
On 10/2/2004 at 10:50 PM Dave Vollenweider wrote: | I came across this page: | http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/8/13/131727/462 and | I'm overwhelmed by the sheer amount of knowledge I'd have to gain. = That page is ridiculous. You do not need to know all those items. You may not even need to know a third of them. What you do need is a basic knowledge of how *nix works, common troubleshooting skills, a curiosity to learn, and an ability to learn. When I hire people to work in my engineering department, I do not have a checklist of skills needed, I am more interested in a person's base knowledge, curiosity, and ability to learn. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: When Unix Stops Being Fun
On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 01:57:11PM +0200, Erik Norgaard wrote: I have found that the most valuable skill a good SA has is LAZINESS! Yup, but beware, there are two kinds: You can be lazy in the sence that you only do what is absolutely necessary and postpone it as much as posible - this is the negative kind. Then, on the other hand, you can be clever! Being clever allows you to minimize the work involved in any task and still get it done on time. So, when I refer to laziness, it's the second kind. You forgot about impatience and hubris; also important virtues for anyone working with computers. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgpy4diyedblK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: When Unix Stops Being Fun - some advice
Some Advice, There are many things in life that seem like daunting tasks, some of them worthwhile, some not. But its the goal beyond the task that should be the deciding factor. Learning unix is not a reason. Its like saying you want to have children just for the sake of having them. Why do you want to learn unix? To enable yourself to start a business? To develop some great product idea? To enpower yourself to advance your career? Those are worthwhile reasons. There are lots of ways to occupy your mind. But its the ones with the really good reasons to learn it who are the best at it. Its also important to always remember (in life generally), that no matter how knowledgable you become, there will always be someone more knowledgeable, so don't be discouraged by others, or the fact that you are behind. Those others are the way you catch up, by listening to them, separating fact from bullshit, and advancing your own knowledge. The top of the bell curve is when you can spot the posers, the know-it-alls who really know nothing at all. Thats when you'll know you are on your way. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SMTP Authentication
How do I tell sendmail to provide an authentication string when I ask it to send messages to my ISP (a cable provider)? They use PLAIN authentication, and I did not have too much trouble getting the base 64 string by snooping with Ethereal when I sent mail from Evolution, and can send out emails by hand or from an Expect script. The relevant part of my sendmail config file is: define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.broadband.rogers.com') set SASL options TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl define(`confDEF_AUTH_INFO', `/etc/mail/auth-info')dnl There doesn't seem any way to tell it what my userid and password for the ISP should be. I have tried reading various documentation, but haven't been able to find what is required. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xorg DPMS weirdness with laptop
I had to patch the trident driver which does the whole turn off backlight thing for the CyberBlade (which is what my laptop, unfortuantly, has) and this works with xset dpms force off/suspend/standby. However, if I just leave it alone it's still doing it's old behavior of making the screen black but leaving the backlight on. Any ideas as to why this might be? I have Options DPMS in my xorg.conf... maybe i'm forgetting something stupidly simple :-) No doubt the case. Thanks ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thunderbird not displaying mails in IMAP-folder
Hello everyone, I recently set up a Courier-IMAP server (version 3.0.5) in my local network. I want to use Thunderbird 0.7.3 running on FreeBSD 5.2.1 to connect to the server. Basically, this works. But when new mails arrive in the mailbox, Thunderbird only indicates them in the folder tree, when I click on the folder, I sometimes see the new messages, sometimes they remain invisible. Sometimes switching to another folder in my mailbox and then back will help - sometimes not. Sometimes I can see the messages after some time, sometimes I have to restart Thunderbird. Is this rather a Thunderbird-problem or an IMAP-problem? (Courier is running on NetBSD 1.6.2, if that matters - Courier's log files did not show any helpful messages) Sylpheed 0.9.12 did not show this behaviour. However, I'd prefer Thunderbird for its ability to read both email and news. Thanks a lot, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
portversion / ruby is broken after updating ports
I update my ports every couple of days, and there were only a small amount today that needed to be updated, so I ran the cvsup to update ports file I then typed `portsdb -Uu` and this came up: server# portsdb -Uu Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..*** Error code 1 1 error Before reporting this error, verify that you are running a supported version of FreeBSD (see http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/) and that you have a complete and up-to-date ports collection. (INDEX builds are not supported with partial or out-of-date ports collections -- in particular, if you are using cvsup, you must cvsup the ports-all collection, and have no refuse files.) If that is the case, then report the failure to [EMAIL PROTECTED] together with relevant details of your ports configuration (including FreeBSD version, your architecture, your environment, and your /etc/make.conf settings, especially compiler flags and WITH/WITHOUT settings). Note: the latest pre-generated version of INDEX may be fetched automatically with make fetchindex. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports. failed to generate INDEX! portsdb: index generation error server# so I tried to run `portversion` and this came up: server# portversion [Updating the portsdb format:bdb1_btree in /usr/ports ... - 11735 port entries found .100 0.2000.3000.4000.5000.6000.7000.8000/us r/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:587: [BUG] Segmentation fault ruby 1.8.2 (2004-07-29) [i386-freebsd5] Abort (core dumped) server# What can I do? Why is ruby doing this now? Thanks. -- robg [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice 1.1.3 package
On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 11:24:34AM +0100, Markie wrote: Hi all I just installed OpenOffice 1.1.3, via a package, on -CURRENT from a few days ago. pkg_add complained about not being able to find XFree86 and imake 4.3.0 (I think) and perl - which is odd because I do have perl installed - so I used -f to force it. This must be an old package, because 4.3.0 hasn't been in the ports collection for some months now. Kris pgpD5s9VOR6NY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Thunderbird not displaying mails in IMAP-folder
On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 08:43:41PM +0200, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: Hello everyone, I recently set up a Courier-IMAP server (version 3.0.5) in my local network. I want to use Thunderbird 0.7.3 running on FreeBSD 5.2.1 to connect to the server. Basically, this works. But when new mails arrive in the mailbox, Thunderbird only indicates them in the folder tree, when I click on the folder, I sometimes see the new messages, sometimes they remain invisible. Sometimes switching to another folder in my mailbox and then back will help - sometimes not. Sometimes I can see the messages after some time, sometimes I have to restart Thunderbird. Is this rather a Thunderbird-problem or an IMAP-problem? (Courier is running on NetBSD 1.6.2, if that matters - Courier's log files did not show any helpful messages) Sylpheed 0.9.12 did not show this behaviour. However, I'd prefer Thunderbird for its ability to read both email and news. You'll need to configure courier-imap with: --enable-workarounds-for-imap-client-bugs to make Mozilla/Thunderbird work. -Radek ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portversion / ruby is broken after updating ports
On Sunday 03 October 2004 11:45 am, robg wrote: I update my ports every couple of days, and there were only a small amount today that needed to be updated, so I ran the cvsup to update ports file I then typed `portsdb -Uu` and this came up: server# portsdb -Uu Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..*** Error code 1 1 error When I did a cvsup of ports-all, what I saw on a make index was the following # make index Generating INDEX - please wait..test: : unexpected operator Warning: Duplicate INDEX entry: freeciv-gtk2-1.14.1 Warning: Duplicate INDEX entry: fvwm-imlib-2.4.18 Done. It appears that make index, which is what portsdb -U runs, doesn't like your setup. Do you have any ports that you refuse. Before reporting this error, verify that you are running a supported version of FreeBSD (see http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/) and that you have a complete and up-to-date ports collection. (INDEX builds are not supported with partial or out-of-date ports collections -- in particular, if you are using cvsup, you must cvsup the ports-all collection, and have no refuse files.) If that is the case, then report the failure to [EMAIL PROTECTED] together with relevant details of your ports configuration (including FreeBSD version, your architecture, your environment, and your /etc/make.conf settings, especially compiler flags and WITH/WITHOUT settings). Note: the latest pre-generated version of INDEX may be fetched automatically with make fetchindex. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports. failed to generate INDEX! portsdb: index generation error server# so I tried to run `portversion` and this came up: server# portversion [Updating the portsdb format:bdb1_btree in /usr/ports ... - 11735 port entries found .100 0.2000.3000.4000.5000.6000. 7000.8000/us r/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:587: [BUG] Segmentation fault ruby 1.8.2 (2004-07-29) [i386-freebsd5] Abort (core dumped) server# What can I do? Why is ruby doing this now? Since make index died, it is anybodys guess. When all of the problems occured, I added the following to /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf ENV['PKG_DBDRIVER'] = bdb_hash ENV['PORTS_DBDRIVER'] = bdb_hash I thought this problem was fixed but I was only vacation during that time and my email machine had a HD crash. Webmail didn't let me sort things out :). Kent Thanks. -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PHP5-GD and X11 requirement
I'm trying to add GD support into my PHP5 install and I'm utterly confused by one thing. For some reason, GD has a dependency on X. Why is that? This is a server that doesn't even have a monitor plugged in, what features of X does the PHP GD module require? It seems rather ridiculous to me that there would that requirement. What's the reasoning behind it? What features of the X libraries does GD make use of? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMTP Authentication
On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 11:02:08AM -0400, Mike Jeays wrote: How do I tell sendmail to provide an authentication string when I ask it to send messages to my ISP (a cable provider)? They use PLAIN authentication, and I did not have too much trouble getting the base 64 string by snooping with Ethereal when I sent mail from Evolution, and can send out emails by hand or from an Expect script. The relevant part of my sendmail config file is: define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.broadband.rogers.com') set SASL options TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl define(`confDEF_AUTH_INFO', `/etc/mail/auth-info')dnl That's fine as it goes, but that's mostly to do with the server side of SMTP AUTH. There doesn't seem any way to tell it what my userid and password for the ISP should be. I have tried reading various documentation, but haven't been able to find what is required. This is what the /etc/mail/authinfo file is for. This is the page you need to read -- specifically the second half: http://www.sendmail.org/m4/smtp_auth.html (or see the section Providing SMTP AUTH Data when sendmail acts as Client in /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README, which is basically the same text.) The define(`confDEF_AUTH_INFO', `/etc/mail/auth-info')dnl stuff is actually deprecated, but it still works for the time being. However, to be completely up to date and for maximum future proofing, instead of that line, you should use: FEATURE(`authinfo', `hash -o /etc/mail/authinfo')dnl Then edit the file /etc/mail/authinfo adding text as shown in the documentation: AuthInfo:other.dom U:user I:user P:secret R:other.dom M:DIGEST-MD5 AuthInfo:more.dom U:user P=c2VjcmV0 Then process that file into the db hash type read by Sendmail: # makemap hash authinfo.db authinfo and make sure that the authinfo data is properly secured: # chown root:wheel authinfo* # chmod 600 authinfo* Then restart sendmail and try a few tests. Note that if you're using PLAIN authentication you should also use privacy options 'goaway' to help prevent the password being trivially disclosed: define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,goaway')dnl You can use this method (with certain small modifications) to authenticate your MSP sendmail instance to your MTA sendmail -- search for 'msp-authinfo' in /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgprqVmzpvSc4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Firewalk Port Broken
I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1. I tried to install the firewalk port and this is what I got. I got the dependencies of libdnet and libnet-devel installed before trying firewalk. %pwd /usr/ports/security/firewalk %sudo make === Building for firewalk-5.0_1 Making all in src cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../include -I/usr/local/include -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -Wall -c init.c init.c: In function `fw_init_net': init.c:156: error: `BIOCIMMEDIATE' undeclared (first use in this function) init.c:156: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once init.c:156: error: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/firewalk/work/Firewalk/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/firewalk/work/Firewalk. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/firewalk. % I've already looked for answers, but no luck. I found that someone else posted this same exact problem back in February or March of this year to a FreeBSD mailing list, but no one responsed with how to fix it. Also, I cvsuped the ports collection before doing this. Let me know what you think the problem is. Thanks. Phusion ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thunderbird not displaying mails in IMAP-folder
Radek Kozlowski wrote: You'll need to configure courier-imap with: --enable-workarounds-for-imap-client-bugs to make Mozilla/Thunderbird work. -Radek Thanks a lot! Seems to work now. =) Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PHP5-GD and X11 requirement
On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 12:44:54PM -0700, Roop Nanuwa wrote: I'm trying to add GD support into my PHP5 install and I'm utterly confused by one thing. For some reason, GD has a dependency on X. Why is that? This is a server that doesn't even have a monitor plugged in, what features of X does the PHP GD module require? It seems rather ridiculous to me that there would that requirement. What's the reasoning behind it? What features of the X libraries does GD make use of? xpm or X PixMap -- an image format provided with X windows. You can avoid having to install the whole X client libraries by installing graphics/gd with the following flags: # cd /usr/ports/graphics/gd # make install WITH_XPM=yes WITHOUT_X11=yes which will cause a standalone xpm library to be used. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0vmq1cXwGj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: IP address conflicts
On Oct 3, 2004, at 2:11 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: locking your dorm room Yup. This is self-defense in any college setting, there's too many juveniles around. Well, that's the point of college today...real life without the real life consequences :-) It's training for taking responsibility, though. We try to have a policy where I work where if your account is used to do something against the rules, like browse porn, you must have given that person your account password or you left your account logged in and walked away. There's no way to prove who the body was sitting at that console, so it is assumed to be you. You get in trouble for it. We try to have a policy where I work of what you call common courtesy. That is, the stuff on someone's desk is their property and if you have to touch it, you don't damage it. You'd think this is a simple rule. Good luck. Every once in a while we run across someone who don't understand this, they get away with this for a while but sooner or later we reach out and fire them. Apparently, they all go to work at your place. I work in public education. I think the double negatives there are a bit too much for most people. It is unreasonable to expect people to have to act like they are in kindergarden when they are in the middle of a network room that has a sum total of 20 people who can access it, all of whom are paid more than 50K a year. You'd THINK so. Listen, chances are that you can, in rural areas, get away with never locking your door. Nothing happens...no one marches in and robs you. What are the chances an average thief notices your doors aren't locked? Or that someone comes in and assaults you? Yet you still get the person on the news saying we never had to lock our doors before...I guess it's just getting too dangerous a world to not do that anymore... I'd rather go through that extra five second hassle and *take my keys with me* and *lock the friggin' door*. Just so I can say I wasn't an idiot for inviting the problem in the first place. Maybe it would never happen. Maybe nothing will, and chances are that if someone really wanted to break into my house they're going to find a way. But I don't want them to have it so easy as to just walk through the bloody door. Want my data? Steal the CPU. You'll need to get the hard drive out. It's always in a state where either I'm at the console or it's asking for a password. Besides, it helps me remember my passwords to be using them all the time :-) You just never know when someone will want to pull a little prank that you won't have patience or time for. But people should not have to be looking over their shoulders where they live, eat, sleep. This is a college, not a kindergarden. True, and all security is a tradeoff. People should realize that the five seconds it takes to lock and unlock a console is not a huge detriment to their schedule, and that taking reasonable precautions against theft and vandalism will save them time down the road that one time that someone decides to do something to them for giggles. Yes, it's a college. And like humans everywhere else, they act like giant kids. Hell, they use college as an EXCUSE to act like idiots. You know...all that PRESSURE they're under. The tests. The essays. The reports. The heavy drinking. They have to vent SOMEHOW. Besides, how high does a Dell monitor bounce from the third floor dorm window?? Your logic is of the variety of well, the security scanners at the airports didn't do what they were supposed to be doing, so we deserved to have the WTC collapsed. In other words, it only appears on the surface to be reasonable, and that is because the problems don't involve people dying. But it is fatally flawed. If the world really operated like you seem to think, it would be anarchy. What, that people will be people and it's better to take the five seconds to take reasonable precautions is out of line? I see it as taking responsibility for my belongings (and in college, those of my roommate's as well). My roommate and I got into a habit of carrying our keys...it kept us from being locked out of our cars, it kept our belongings from disappearing from our college apartment. Nothing would probably have happened if we didn't do this, but it was insurance. I don't *expect* my house to burn down, but I am insured for it. Your parallel doesn't quite cut it. Smuggling things onboard a plane that is contraband is a little different than playing pranks and using your computer in an unauthorized manner. It crosses many lines. I am taking responsibility for my data when I take a few seconds to lock the console. To search someone for every possible danger they may pose to a plane not only crosses into crossing personal space and privacy, but is impossible against someone who is *determined* to cause a problem. Maybe I'm not quite seeing what you are arguing in the comparison...how the conclusion
Re: When Unix Stops Being Fun
On Oct 2, 2004, at 11:50 PM, Dave Vollenweider wrote: This has nothing to do with technical problems, but rather it's more of a request for moral support. This may seem disjointed, so bear with me. Alt.sysadmin.recovery? :-) I've been using FreeBSD for over six months now, but I've been using Unix-like operating systems for almost two years. I started with Red Hat Linux back when Red Hat was making and selling their consumer-grade version of Red Hat Linux, then switched to Debian before going to FreeBSD last March. I now also run NetBSD on one of my machines. Sounds like the path many administrators start out on :-) Through all this, I've developed a passion for this type of OS, seeing the elegance, performance, and sheer power of Unix. This has affected me to the point of me changing my career path. Before I got into these OSs, I wanted to get into radio. Now I'd rather either be a system administrator or run my own consulting business for entities that use these types of OSs. But herein lies the problem I've been having lately: while searching around for what I'd need to know to become a system administrator, I came across this page: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/8/13/131727/462 and I'm overwhelmed by the sheer amount of knowledge I'd have to gain. It's a good overview, but man oh man...you can't memorize all of that. Worse, things change over time. The Linux way to accomplish something changes depending on the distro, the release version,... the important thing is that you can *look it up* and are able to understand the fundamentals. You may not know precisely how to sit down and get that new printer to print first time through and have it going in ten minutes, but you should be familiar enough to know that it may have something to do with configuring LPR and/or SMB sharing or CUPS to not be scratching your head over what to look for next. You should be able to google with decent search terms and be able to follow howtos. The stuff from the courses are pretty specific. Good to know, yes. Only thing to know? NO. You need to be flexible because in two years that test will be outdated and not of extreme use when you're trying to figure out how to install apache on FreeBSD properly...they don't have ports on Red Hat :-) (heresy, I know, old schoolers are chanting *install from source! install from source!* and everyone should have had to try that at some point in their learning process...) Also, there's sub niches in learning system administration. You can't be a great jack of all trades, but you can be familiar with the areas and be really good at one or two. I hate hardware. I can make Cat5 patches, but I don't enjoy it. I know people that would love to spend all their time punching drops and if put in support would rather punch users. Some people spend more time getting adept at diagnosing network problems, or setting up servers and maintaining them. Some people get stuck in niches and never adapt or grow (ever find people who think Netware is the ultimate server OS for everything under the sun? Could you at least consider that maybe a small Linux machine could have handled that without the cost??). Some people truly enjoy helping users with training or minor tech support, like a lab support person. That list is daunting. Find what you like. After setting up five or six machines, you get exposed to that stuff in due time. If you're a fast learner and good at googling for information, it'll all be okay :-) It took me almost two years to get to where I am today, and it looks like I've barely scratched the surface of what I'd need to know. But now, I feel like instead of learning things on my own for fun, I have to learn other things I don't really have a need to learn for myself or that I want to, just so that I can apply that to oth er peoples' situations. Um...yeah. That happens. Surest way to kill a passion is to make it a job :-) Just make sure the benefits outweigh the hassles. You'll hang in there. You'll have to learn a lot of gotcha's along the way, that's just the way life is. Especially in technology. The result is that lately learning these OSs has become more of a chore than a fun hobby, and I'm still intimidated by what I need to learn to get to where I want to go. It almost seems like it's not worth it. That's a decision only you can make. You know, you don't need to stay in one profession your whole life. Why not combine radio with technology? Start a radio show about technology. Work as a consultant for stations. Start an Internet radio show like Radio Tiki did. Most departments in businesses aren't just one person. If you start a consultation business, take in employees or a partner. Or if you go into the real world, there's usually other people working with you. You have to have a support system for learning, and in my experience, two people can easily complement each
Re: When Unix Stops Being Fun
On Oct 3, 2004, at 3:12 AM, bsdfsse wrote: Ironically, I'm switching to FreeBSD because I'm already tired. My bones are aching from years of abuse. I'm tired of.. ..being told what I can and can't do with my computers. Did you know many scanners and photocopiers cannot reproduce money? Apparently the US government has worked with the hardware manufactures to perform this feat. What's next? Probably not being able to listen to music that I'm not certified as owning. Or being able to rip a DVD I purchased. (Somewhat OT...sorry...) I agree with your post 100%, and I remember frequent discussions about this (scanning money being hardware crippled), but sitting here and reading your post reminded me my wallet was on the desk and my new scanner is sitting here...well, thought I'd test it. Must be my scanner's broken, because I just scanned and printed the face side of a $20 bill. Almost 11 long on the printout, but still looks like a giant $20. Just curious if it would work or not. Excuse me while I shred it before the Secret Service comes knocking on my door... -Bart ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: When Unix Stops Being Fun
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Re: OpenOffice 1.1.3 package
- Original Message - From: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Markie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: Re: OpenOffice 1.1.3 package On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 11:24:34AM +0100, Markie wrote: Hi all I just installed OpenOffice 1.1.3, via a package, on -CURRENT from a few days ago. pkg_add complained about not being able to find XFree86 and imake 4.3.0 (I think) and perl - which is odd because I do have perl installed - so I used -f to force it. This must be an old package, because 4.3.0 hasn't been in the ports collection for some months now. Kris Do you think that might be the cause of my infinate 100% CPU loop thing? Should I try hunting around for something done using X.org instead? Sorry if the formatting is a bit crummy. Outlook Express Thanks ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: When Unix Stops Being Fun
On Sun, 2004-10-03 at 17:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/3/04 4:31:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Excuse me while I shred it before the Secret Service comes knocking on my door... Is the secret service in charge of counterfiting now? (as you can see no formal education is required to be an SA) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anti-counterfeiting was one of the original purposes for which the Secret Service was formed. Be really careful about doing things like this - it is possible to get into a lot of trouble even with no criminal intent. As a purely theoretical question - is it possible to be guilty of an offence by being in possession of a digital image of a currency bill? At what resolution does it become an offence? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NDISulator (aka. Project Evil) wmp54gs w. bcm4306
--- Eric Schuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 01 October 2004 03:46 pm, K. Greenwood
wrote:
Quick question. Where do queries regarding Bill
Paul's NDISulator go? I have seen some to
current,
hardware, mobile.
Or even better, a howto (the best I have seen thus
far
is:)
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-January/01948
6.html
Google:
FreeBSD NDIS
You'll get some good returns.
Here are the two best 'HowTo's' I've found:
http://tweakbsd.homeunix.org/guides/windoof-ndis-drivers.php
http://www.xl0.org/FreeBSD/ndis.txt
Here is my HowTo: (i.e. that which worked for me,
constructed from
the sites referenced above)
===
wLAN (TrueMobile 1300)
===
Download and build NDIS wrapper for Windows wLAN
drivers
# cd /usr
# cvs -d
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/ncvs co
src/sys/
modules/ndis src/sys/modules/if_ndis
src/usr.sbin/ndiscvt src/sys/
compat/ndis src/sys/dev/if_ndis
# cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/ndiscvt/ make make
install
# cd /usr/src/sys/modules/ndis make make
install
# make load
# cd /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis
# cp /path/to/windows_driver.sys
# cp /path/to/windows_driver.inf
# rename old
/usr/src/sys/dev/pccard/pccarddevs.h
# ndiscvt -i windows_driver.inf -s
windows_driver.sys -o
pccarddevs.h
# ndiscvt -i windows_driver.inf -s
windows_driver.sys -o
ndis_driver_data.h
# make install
# re-rename old
/usr/src/sys/dev/pccard/pccarddevs.h (needed for
future kernel builds)
NOTE: It appears that if you later rebuild your
kernel...
you must _rebuild_ the above as well.
Maybe just re-install?
Add to /etc/rc.conf
ifconfig_ndis0=DHCP
hostname=yourhostname
Add to /boot/loader.conf
ndis_load=YES
if_ndis_load=YES
Edit /etc/dhclient.conf
timeout 10;
retry 10;
reboot 10;
select-timeout 5;
initial-interval 2;
interface ndis0 {
send dhcp-client-identifier
unx.unxlaptop.org;
media ssid Your_SSID channel 1 wepmode on
wepkey
0x57065YourWepKey753B5;
request subnet-mask, broadcast-address,
routers,
domain-name-servers, domain-n;
}
HTH
snipped
Sorry for taking so long to respond. I went through
your steps, and everything compiles, the kld's load
(ndis if_ndis), but the ndis0 device is not created.
Clearly I have more reading to do. Thanks for the
info and the sites.
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Re: OpenOffice 1.1.3 package
On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 10:34:30PM +0100, Markie wrote: This must be an old package, because 4.3.0 hasn't been in the ports collection for some months now. Kris Do you think that might be the cause of my infinate 100% CPU loop thing? Should I try hunting around for something done using X.org instead? Could be.. Kris pgpvB0LSZ1ZrV.pgp Description: PGP signature
replacing a failed drive with hardware raid ...
never having done it before, I don't know how to do it :( vinum is easy ... replace the drive, make sure its partitioned right and start it ... I have an IIR controller, with the storcon utility from the command line ... drive 3 has failed, and I have a 'good drive' in slot 6 that is sitting idle ... the server is hot-swapable, so I should just need to pull out drive 3, put drive 6 in ... but what do I have to do in storcon to tell it to 'rebuild/start' the new drive? Thanks ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-scsi To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
making a script for folding@home
I have [EMAIL PROTECTED] and wanted to make a startup script for it. I saw another folding client in the ports, but I wanted to tweak the script a little to help my comp run quietly. If I could I would like to run my comp 24x7, but I can't do it right now because I have a hard drive that just screams its so loud and it is in my room. I got the ataidle port, but my drive will spin back up right away or in a min or so. I was hoping this would work, but it seems FreeBSD keeps using the hard drive. I rememer watching shows I downloaded and hearing the hard drive spin down(the show would fit in ram if it matters) a few months ago while running current. Also my hardrive will still spin down while I am in long games of starcraft in windows. I have 5.3 beta3 now and I want to know if it is normal for the hard drive to never spin down for other people that have acpi or apm working. I wrote my first script to create a md, put [EMAIL PROTECTED] in it, and run [EMAIL PROTECTED] out of ram. When I shutdown the script should cp the working dir back to the hard drive and get rid of the md. This script will only matter if I can get the hard disk to spin down. If you understand what I am tring to do and have some idea please let me know what you think. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD interrupt dispatch
Hello all, I am trying to do some experiments in which I need to insert some codes before an interrrupt is dispatched. But I don't know where I should insert the codes. Basically, when an interrupt arrives, the kernel needs to call the corresponding interrrupt handler. I need to insert some codes before any interrupt is dispatched. Could anyone tell me which file in the kernel (4.8) I should look at for interrupt distpatching? Thanks Haidong _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: When Unix Stops Being Fun
On Sun, Oct 03, 2004, Mike Jeays wrote: On Sun, 2004-10-03 at 17:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/3/04 4:31:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Excuse me while I shred it before the Secret Service comes knocking on my door... Is the secret service in charge of counterfiting now? (as you can see no formal education is required to be an SA) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anti-counterfeiting was one of the original purposes for which the Secret Service was formed. Yup. Counterfeiting is only allowed by the Federal Reserve. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Systems, Inc. UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``I presume you all know who I am. I am humble Abraham Lincoln. I have been solicited by many friends to become a candidate for the legistlature. My politics are short and sweet, like the old woman's dance. I am in favor of a national bank ... in favor of the internal improvements system, and a high protective tariff.'' -- Abraham Lincoln, 1832 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MPD and logging...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, I'm looking to have some better logging in MPD. Currently, it seems to log nearly everything. The only thing I can find about disabling logging in this application involves an interactive 'shell' where I can disable certain logging. I just want to know who logged in when, that's it. i.e. I only want the auth logging flag. Thanks for your help, - - Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkFglXAACgkQRAAY9knOW+r8+ACePQNuOFPBIanEB7pcfbCQ51Fg E/IAn0uQf3leUW5YOtT9G4Ns6d/gKjJr =zFHI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MPD VPN questions...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, I have MPD setup to create pptp VPN. I have a couple of questions. 1) How do I make traffic coming from a host that's connected to the VPN look like it's coming from a VPN IP address? Currently it comes from their real, i.e. public IP address. 2) I use SSL for mail retrieval currently. Right now, if I'm connected to my VPN, if I try to retrieve email, I get nothing. If I look in /var/log/messages, I see the following: Oct 3 19:43:09 grog qpopper[730]: (v4.0.5) TLSv1/SSLv3 handshake with client at 0-1pool198-217.nas2.fargo1.nd.us.da.qwest.net (67.1.198.217); new session-id; cipher: RC4-SHA (RC4-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=RC4(128) Mac=SHA1), 128 bits Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: I/O Error Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: Error writing to client Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: I/O Error Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: Error writing to client Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: I/O Error Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: Error writing to client Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: OpenSSL Error during write Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: ...SSL error: error:1409F07F:SSL routines:SSL3_WRITE_PENDING:bad write retry Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: Error writing to client Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: ecrist at 0-1pool198-217.nas2.fargo1.nd.us.da.qwest.net (67.1.198.217): -ERR POP hangup from grog.secure-computing.net Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: OpenSSL Error during write Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: ...SSL error: error:1409F07F:SSL routines:SSL3_WRITE_PENDING:bad write retry Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: Error writing to client Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: Stats: ecrist 0 0 1313 6756817 0-1pool198-217.nas2.fargo1.nd.us.da.qwest.net 67.1.198.217 Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: OpenSSL Error during write Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: ...SSL error: error:1409F07F:SSL routines:SSL3_WRITE_PENDING:bad write retry Oct 3 19:43:14 grog qpopper[730]: Error writing to client Any idea why this would be? I have a feeling it's because the server is trying to send to my public IP address, but that's being blocked by the VPN from the server side. I'm all confused now. Thanks for you help. - - Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkFgncIACgkQRAAY9knOW+oUJgCggigbs5qukKUfx/FrATkQmCRw XtYAn3ez+59mSKr4K/U9cE8M0xrR3Vi1 =Km4Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Load increase after upgrading php4
Early September I upgraded php4 using the new php port structure (that is php4 and php4-extensions). Since then I have noticed quite an increase in server load - I'd say my current load is about five times what it was before. Graph available here: http://bjorn.swift.is/tmp/hermes-uptime-year.png I suspect this being because the new way seems to compile everything as loadable modules. My question is basically whether this is just how it is and that I should compile php myself I want it built as one binary - or if this increase in load is something not to be expected. Has anyone else witnessed anything like this on their servers? What did you do ? The server is a patched FreeBSD 4.8 running php 4.3.8 and apache 1.3.31. It's not a heavy loaded one, serving an average of just over 3 req/sec, but most of the files (besides images) are rather bloated php scripts; webmail, message boards and such. The server is running Nick Lindridge's PHP Accelerator. If anyone has any tips or thoughts they would be greatly appreciated. (Would freebsd-isp perhaps be a better list for a question of this sort?) Cheers, Bjorn Swift signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
lpd remote printing
I have two FreeBSD v5.2.1 systems and a Windows XP system. The first FBSD system (192.168.1.1) is acting as the print server and using apsfilter as the filtering software. The Windows XP box prints to the .1 system through SAMBA. Both the FBSD .1 server and the Windows box print fine. Text is good, images are good, everything is good. The problem I'm having is with printing from the second FBSD system which I'll identify as 192.168.1.2. The FBSD .2 system is sending print jobs to the FBSD .1 system using remote lpd printing. The jobs are making it to the remote FBSD system (192.168.1.1), but the text and images are about 50% larger than what is printed from the FBSD .1 system itself, or the windows XP system. Can anyone help me resolve this problem? My printcap entries are as follows: 192.168.1.1 PRINTCAP ENTRY (the FBSD print server) -- HP1300|PS;r=600x600;q=medium;c=full;p=letter;m=auto:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:\ :if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/HP1300:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/HP1300/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/HP1300/acct:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: 192.168.1.2 PRINTCAP ENTRY (the other FBSD machine) --- HP1300:lp=:rm=192.168.1.1:rp=HP1300:sd=/var/spool/lpd/qdir By the way, the HP1300 is the only printer attached to the FBSD .1 machine and there are no other printers on either of the other systems. Jon ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: When Unix Stops Being Fun (pushing the thread even more OT)
it was said: As a purely theoretical question - is it possible to be guilty of an offence by being in possession of a digital image of a currency bill? At what resolution does it become an offence? Hello, This exactly answers your questions: http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/banknotes/legislation/repro.html Seems like possession of _any_ digital image of Canadian paper currency is a crime. To see what the rules are for other countries: http://www.rulesforuse.org For an interesting news item on this topic: http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/10/01/copying.dollars.ap/index.html HTH, Stheg ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Port Freeze
Hi, I thought this port freeze was only supposed to last 2 weeks from Sept 3rd. Just wondering what is taking so long. - Raman ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nfs server not responding / is alive again
I'm using an nfs mount to get at the underlying file system on a system that uses unionfs mounts ... instead of using nullfs, which, last time I used it over a year ago, caused the server to crash to no end ... But, as soon as there is any 'load', I'm getting a whack of: Oct 3 22:46:16 neptune /kernel: nfs server neptune.hub.org:/vm: not responding Oct 3 22:46:16 neptune /kernel: nfs server neptune.hub.org:/vm: is alive again Oct 3 22:48:30 neptune /kernel: nfs server neptune.hub.org:/vm: not responding Oct 3 22:48:30 neptune /kernel: nfs server neptune.hub.org:/vm: is alive again in /var/log/messages ... I'm running nfsd with the standard flags: nfs_server_flags=-u -t -n 4 Is there something that I can do to reduce this problem? increase number of nfsd processes? force a tcp connection? The issue is more prevalent when I have 4 processes trying to read from the nfs mounts ... should there be one mount per process? the process(es) in question are rsync, if that helps ... they tend to be a bit more 'disk intensive' then most processes, which is why I thought of increasing -n ... Thanks ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Port Freeze
Raman wrote: Hi, I thought this port freeze was only supposed to last 2 weeks from Sept 3rd. Just wondering what is taking so long. Until portmanager says so. 5.3 is still being tested, so when things settle down, things are as they are for the time being... ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Booting to CD and the handing off to HD
Hello, I'm going to be working on a firewall box where I want to boot to CD and run an integrity check on the Hard Drive. If the Hard Drive checks out OK, I want the CD to then hand off to the hard drive and boot the hard drive. Is that possible? What man pages and/or web pages should I read to make it happen? Thanks! Cristobal ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IP address conflicts
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bart Silverstrim Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 12:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IP address conflicts On Oct 3, 2004, at 2:11 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: locking your dorm room Yup. This is self-defense in any college setting, there's too many juveniles around. Well, that's the point of college today...real life without the real life consequences :-) It's training for taking responsibility, though. We try to have a policy where I work where if your account is used to do something against the rules, like browse porn, you must have given that person your account password or you left your account logged in and walked away. There's no way to prove who the body was sitting at that console, so it is assumed to be you. You get in trouble for it. We try to have a policy where I work of what you call common courtesy. That is, the stuff on someone's desk is their property and if you have to touch it, you don't damage it. You'd think this is a simple rule. Good luck. Every once in a while we run across someone who don't understand this, they get away with this for a while but sooner or later we reach out and fire them. Apparently, they all go to work at your place. I work in public education. I think the double negatives there are a bit too much for most people. It is unreasonable to expect people to have to act like they are in kindergarden when they are in the middle of a network room that has a sum total of 20 people who can access it, all of whom are paid more than 50K a year. You'd THINK so. Listen, chances are that you can, in rural areas, get away with never locking your door. Nothing happens...no one marches in and robs you. What are the chances an average thief notices your doors aren't locked? Or that someone comes in and assaults you? Yet you still get the person on the news saying we never had to lock our doors before...I guess it's just getting too dangerous a world to not do that anymore... Not a correct analogy. To be correct, you would have to say that I built a tight fence around me and my 20 rural neighbors, all of us have a key to get through this fence, and none of us lock the doors of our homes that are -inside- this fence. I'd rather go through that extra five second hassle and *take my keys with me* and *lock the friggin' door*. You just never know when someone will want to pull a little prank that you won't have patience or time for. I would actually rather have the prank happen - you know why? Because if it does, then one of that 20 needs to be fired, simply because they cannot be trusted. It is worth it to me to suffer some inconvenience/dataloss/whatever to discover that one of that 20 is a prankster so we can fire them. People entrust their precious data with us. If we cannot even trust amongst ourselves we certainly don't deserve the trust of our customers. But people should not have to be looking over their shoulders where they live, eat, sleep. This is a college, not a kindergarden. True, and all security is a tradeoff. People should realize that the five seconds it takes to lock and unlock a console is not a huge detriment to their schedule, and that taking reasonable precautions against theft and vandalism will save them time down the road that one time that someone decides to do something to them for giggles. Where I work there's no tolerance for even that one time You simply do not damage other people's data, whether they be co-workers or customers or the general public. If someone in our group cannot even control themselves with their co-workers data, imagine what they are doing with customer data! Yes, it's a college. And like humans everywhere else, they act like giant kids. Hell, they use college as an EXCUSE to act like idiots. You know...all that PRESSURE they're under. The tests. The essays. The reports. The heavy drinking. They have to vent SOMEHOW. Besides, how high does a Dell monitor bounce from the third floor dorm window?? Well, college dorms are a different environment than a corporate datacenter. I certainly expect this, after living in a dorm myself. If I was in the OP's position I would ASSUME that students in the dorms would be pulling this kind of stunt with regularity. BUT, I would EXPECT that they WOULD NOT do it. And I would tell them so. And when inevitably some of them figured I was some dumbfuck squarehead and pulled their tricks anyway, I would see to it that they got expelled, and I would let the rest of them know that this is the consequence of choosing to pull a trick like this. I would not, however, punish innocent victims, even if they walked off and left their systems logged in. This is counterproductive and just unites the troublemakers and their victims against you. I know perfectly well that
FreeBSD4.4,Maxtor 200Gb: slice extends beyond end of disk
Hi, FreeBSD zloy 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #14: Mon Jan 26 10:36:37 MSK 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/vasa i386 Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 200Gb ATA133 HDD Sep 30 13:43:48 zloy /kernel: ad1: 131071MB Maxtor 6Y200P0 [266305/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA100 .. Sep 30 13:47:30 zloy /kernel: ad1s1: slice extends beyond end of disk: truncating from 398283417 to 268435392 sectors Please help correct this problem. -- Vasa V. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
