Re: nvidia drivers

2005-09-18 Thread Bob Johnson
On 9/15/05, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am using a test system and have been try to get the nvidia drivers 
 working.
 
 I am running freebsd 5.3 release, nvidia ultra 6800 256mb, and tried 
 installing the drivers using the port.
 

I have installed the nvidia driver a few times and it has worked, but
I've gone to the nvidia website and followed their directions, rather
than using the port.

 Went through all the info I can find and tried various things and no luck.

Have you read nvidia's README at
http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_1.0-7676.html ?

In the default version distributed by nVidia, you have to disable
FreeBSD's AGP support or the nvidia driver will refuse to load.  I
don't know if the port builds it with that configuration or not.

- Bob
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Re: CUPS, Foomatic, and HPIJS?

2005-09-18 Thread Bob Johnson
On 9/16/05, Eric Pretorious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What do I have to do to install/use HPIJS without devoting my life to 
 becoming a FreeBSD+CUPS expert?! (Setting up CUPS+foomatic+HPIJS was a 
 breeze under Gentoo!)

I find that apsfilter is a lot easier to install and configure than is
CUPS, and it appears that the HPIJS driver got installed on my system
when I installed apsfilter.  I don't use CUPS unless I really need the
Internet Printing Protocol.

- Bob
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Re: Problem at first boot

2005-09-18 Thread Nick Larsen
I have the following directories on seperate partitions partitions:
/
/var
/tmp
/usr
/data

/dev shouldn't have a partition mounted to it, as it wastes space. if you do 
a df -h you will see /dev is always 100% full and has a size of 0

On 9/15/05, Rein Kadastik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 BTW the reason of the booting problem is that kernel mounts / partition
 and expects to find /bin/sh from there but as the /bin is on separate
 partiton, then it fails.
 
 -- Rein
 

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RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-18 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of P.U.Kruppa
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 9:44 PM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: Garrett Cooper; FreeBSD Questions
Subject: RE: IE in FreeBSD?


On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:


 My opinion on WINE is that it merely harms people who are writing
 software
 for FreeBSD.  If I write a wordprocessor for Linux or FreeBSD
and try to
 sell it, why would a customer buy it when he can just use his
Microsoft
 Word under Wine?
Don't forget Wine, Qemu, etc. are pieces of software themselves,
written by great programmers and hackers for Linux and FreeBSD.
They weren't discouraged from anything: They do contribute
to the open source community.


I don't but there's so much other stuff that needs programming attention
that I think it's too bad that all that talent isn't working on that
instead.

Ted

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Boot Loader Problem

2005-09-18 Thread John Do
Hi guys

I still can't boot BSD :(

I have tried everything I can and bla bla read etc etc
:(

Here is the setup (I boot off ad0)

ad0 - boot loader and Windows XP
ad2 slice 2 - FreeBSD Install

Exactly from the emergency shell do I need to type to
configure the bootloader so it gives the option of
booting to ad2 slice 2?

I have tried commands like:

boot0cfg -B -s 5 ad0
boot0cfg -B -s 2 ad2

but no change in the boot menu

I still see no change in the menu

It shows 2 options


Drive 1

Both options will boot Windows XP

Please help thx!






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The FreeBSD Diary: 2005-08-28 - 2005-09-17

2005-09-18 Thread Dan Langille
The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical 
examples and how-to guides.  This message is posted weekly
to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people
know what's available on the website.  Before you post a question
here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list 
archives http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists 
and/or The FreeBSD Diary http://www.freebsddiary.org/. 

These are the articles posted during this period:

11-Sep : New York City BSD Conference
 Speakers have been finalized 
 http://freebsddiary.org/nycbsdcon-2005-speakers.php?2

8-Sep : Moving your wireless gateway
 out with the new, in with the old! 
 http://freebsddiary.org/ipsec-wireless-move.php?2


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Re: Boot Loader Problem

2005-09-18 Thread Glenn Dawson

At 12:00 AM 9/18/2005, John Do wrote:

Hi guys

I still can't boot BSD :(

I have tried everything I can and bla bla read etc etc
:(

Here is the setup (I boot off ad0)

ad0 - boot loader and Windows XP
ad2 slice 2 - FreeBSD Install

Exactly from the emergency shell do I need to type to
configure the bootloader so it gives the option of
booting to ad2 slice 2?

I have tried commands like:

boot0cfg -B -s 5 ad0
boot0cfg -B -s 2 ad2

but no change in the boot menu

I still see no change in the menu

It shows 2 options


Drive 1

Both options will boot Windows XP

Please help thx!


Output from the following commands would be most useful in helping to 
solve your problem.  With the info you've provided so far, any 
suggestions would be mostly guesswork.


fdisk /dev/ad0
fdisk /dev/ad2
bsdlabel /dev/ad0
bsdlabel /dev/ad2
boot0cfg -v /dev/ad0
boot0cfg -v /dev/ad2

-Glenn

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HP Deskjet 720c won't print ...

2005-09-18 Thread Kiffin Gish
I've been trying to get my hp deskjet 720c to print but nothing happens.

I've followed step-by-step the instructions in the handbook, but when I
run 'lptest  /dev/lpt0' nothing happens.

Here's my setup:

ppc0: ECP parallel printer port port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq
3 on acpi0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold
ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0

And the '/boot/device.hints' file:

hint.ppc.0.irq=7

What's wrong?

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Gouda, The Netherlands



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RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-18 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frank Jahnke
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 9:58 AM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: IE in FreeBSD?



 An alternative always exists.

It depends on how far you want to go with alternatives.  Sure, you could
keep a Windows box around.  You could not do the task.  Those too are
alternatives.  But if you are looking to do certain tasks on a BSD
desktop, I will say that in many cases there is no alternative, at least
no alternative that is workable.

One example: how do you suggest that complex forms in PDF format are
filled out and saved on a FreeBSD system?


PDF doesn't belong in complex forms that are filled out online.  I use
PDF at my job and we use it for one use only - contracts.  A contract
must be in paper with a human's signature on it to have any validity
whatsoever in a court of law, despite what you may read otherwise.  The
PDF forms we send out are NOT intended to be filled out and printed, they
are designed to be printed only, then the printout filled out and signed
by hand.  And we have alternative formats available (such as word doc)
for those who don't have Acrobat loaded.  I'd send these out in .png
format
if I figured the user could print them off without botching the printout.
Or in PostScript to be fed directly to the printer.

Every other type of form we deal with that doesn't have to stand up to
legal scrutiny (ie: needs a siggy) we have long ago migrated to online
webforms.



 Look at Macintosh software sometime, the UI for most apps is little
 different
 than what it was under System 7 except more colorful and glitzy.  Most
 Mac users don't even know UNIX is involved with their OS.
The Mac isn't
 a gateway to UNIX by any means.  Apple made it easy for Mac users to
 continue to be stone stupid, and the Mac users by and large chose to
 stay stone stupid.  Apple knows it's customer base that's for sure.

I find this attitude to be very distressing, but remarkably common.
Sure, users are not as informed as they might be, and they can do stupid
things.  But they use the computer as a tool to do certain tasks, and
they shouldn't have to know about how the computer works to accomplish
those tasks.


Yah yah yah.  I hear the same thing about cars - we shouldn't need to
know how a car works to drive it  Sure - sounds great.  Let's put a
bunch
of drivers on the road that don't understand bullcrap about automobile
suspensions and how they work then watch them kill themselves the first
time it snows and freezes up.  Oh I forgot, that's what we already have.
Great attitude!

My own work is in biological physical chemistry -- that's what pays the
bills.  Should I require my IT people to be conversant with that area,
and understand the experiments that we do?

Yes.  There's a big difference between being 'conversant' in a field
and being 'qualified' in a field.  I would expect the IT people that
are servicing an accounting company to have a basic idea of accounting,
and the IT people supporting a food company to have a basic understanding
of how the food industry works.  Otherwise how can they possibly be
effective at providing applications to the users that the users need?

You may as a car driver not be qualified to take apart the front
suspension of a vehicle and repair it.  You may not even be qualified
to diagnose something as simple as a wheel shimmy caused by a loose
tie rod.  You might not know the difference between a tie rod and a
tied shoe.  But you don't need any of that to understand some basic
things like if the tire isn't straight up and down that it's not
gripping the road well enough, (ie: front end misalignment) and that if
the
vehicle has a lift kit on it and is jacked up into God's ass that it's
probably a lot easier to roll it over (ie: center of gravity) and
that a locked up tire skidding has less traction than a turning
tire that's braking (ie: Antilock Braking Systems)

  Unless you understand the basics of how the suspension
works, your a hazard to yourself and other drivers when your on the
road.  And that is true even if it's broad daylight sunny weather.


Indeed, the tools I am developing are designed so that the user does not
have to know all of the details about how they work.  They put stuff in,
and get useful information out.

If they don't know how these tools work then how do they know if the tool
is working properly?

If I had to hire Maxwell's demons to do
the work, the users wouldn't care.  It is my job to do the hard work and
tailor it to their needs.

And as the tool user it's their job to have enough understanding of what
your tools are supposed to be spitting out as to recognize when you screw
it up and your tools give out bogus results.

It's like teaching mathematics in school.  You can teach the kids to do
addition, subtraction, multiplication and division by hand, so they
understand
what is going on, or you 

Re: how to rename a file with !, ?, and other strange chars?

2005-09-18 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Gary Kline thusly...

 I scarfed up a slew of php files that are around 100 bytes in
 strlen and with \  and other non-shell-friendly bytes.  Is there
 a way to use perl to chop off the first N bytes?
 
 For example, a file many be named 1\ 2xyz\?3=Test.php.
 What's the most logical way to perl this file to Test.php?

Perl:
  http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=303814
  http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=277174

Other:
  
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22file+name%22+unusal+OR+weird+characters+group%3Acomp.unix.*
  
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=rename+unusal+OR+weird+characters+group%3Acomp.unix.*


  - Parv

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gmake/make dependency problem

2005-09-18 Thread Harlan Stenn
I have a package that uses automake and autoconf.

I have a single copy of the source code, and I build in machine-specific
subdirectories (using NFS).

I have a master machine which has all of the tools I need; I build
there first and then build on the other machines.

One these other machines is an x86 FreeBSD-5.4 machine, and it has the
stock 'make' on it.

When I try to build on this machine (after a successful build on the
master machine) make says that there is an out-of-date source file
and tries to run some tools to produce the source file.

This source file is present in the VPATH.  The timestamps on all of
the files are correct.  make says a file cannot be found and the file
is clearly there.

I'm open to suggestions on how to find/fix this problem.

H
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Re: Downgrading from amd64 to i386

2005-09-18 Thread Andrew P.
On 9/18/05, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Subhro wrote:
  Andrew P. sat at his 'puter and typed on 9/18/2005 1:49:
 
  Hello!
 
  I use FreeBSD/amd64 6.0 as the only OS on my desktop
  PC. Having carefully thought over pros and cons, I decided
  to downgrade to i386 for the time being.
 
 
  What on earth does this mean? This is simply not possible. amd64 is a
  completely different platform. i386 is a 32 bit platform and amd64 is a
  64 bit one. You can upgrade or downgrade from one version to other
  provided the platform remains constant. But upgrading from one patform
  to other involves buying and assembling physically different hardware
  holding different copies of OS.
 
  Thanks
  S.
 
 
 But the AMD hardware, for example I have a dual Opteron, can run in
 64(amd64) or 32(i386) bit mode.
 So could you upgrade i386 to amd64 on such a system?
 Sounds interesting.
 

Well, theoretically, it sure as hell is possible. I mean I have
cross-compiled dozens of programs, and they worked fine.
There are just too few people that have tried cross-upgrading,
so I guess I'll have to stick to the backup-clean-install path.
What a pity.
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what was it ?

2005-09-18 Thread dick hoogendijk
I know it is off topic, but I trust you guys in this group to just
remember it.

I'm building an old msdos machine for a little kid (very nostalgic).
But I seem to rememeber that there was an issue about the space of the
harddrive. Some kind of limit I don't remember. How large can a ms-dos
partition be?

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osx-fbsd-winxp

2005-09-18 Thread dick hoogendijk
What is the best way to let the winxp machine communicate with the
mac/osx? And what about the fbsd machine. Is there a protocol I can use
for all three of them?

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Re: what was it ?

2005-09-18 Thread Yuri van Overmeeren

dick hoogendijk wrote:


I know it is off topic, but I trust you guys in this group to just
remember it.

I'm building an old msdos machine for a little kid (very nostalgic).
But I seem to rememeber that there was an issue about the space of the
harddrive. Some kind of limit I don't remember. How large can a ms-dos
partition be?

 

Depends on the filesystem you use, FAT16 has a 2GB limit, FAT32 (in 
theory) supports very large partitions but I think you could get in 
trouble at 127GB or 137GB with MS-Dos. Newer MS-Dos (or other doses) 
support FAT32.


Old MS-Dos machines used FAT16, if the hardware is from that time 
period you also might run into the hardware limitation that BIOS can not 
adress more then a 32GB harddisk, most drives however have a capactiy 
limit jumper setting for this reason. (limits drive at 32GB).


have fun :)

- yuri -
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Re: what was it ?

2005-09-18 Thread Michael Dale

FAT16, 2gb partition if I remember correctly.


On 18/09/2005, at 9:34 PM, dick hoogendijk wrote:


I know it is off topic, but I trust you guys in this group to just
remember it.

I'm building an old msdos machine for a little kid (very nostalgic).
But I seem to rememeber that there was an issue about the space of the
harddrive. Some kind of limit I don't remember. How large can a ms-dos
partition be?

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Re: HP Deskjet 720c won't print ...

2005-09-18 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 10:18:51AM +0200, Kiffin Gish wrote:
 I've been trying to get my hp deskjet 720c to print but nothing happens.
 
 I've followed step-by-step the instructions in the handbook, but when I
 run 'lptest  /dev/lpt0' nothing happens.

The handbook assumes that printers can print plain test. Het 720C
can't. You need to install a printing formatter/spooler like
apsfilter. You'll also need the pnm2ppa port.

See http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_720C
and
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-February/077001.html

Roland
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Re: nvidia drivers

2005-09-18 Thread Gregory Nou

Bob Johnson wrote:




In the default version distributed by nVidia, you have to disable
FreeBSD's AGP support or the nvidia driver will refuse to load.  I
don't know if the port builds it with that configuration or not.

 

I do not agree. I now compile the kernel without agp, but I used to 
compile with it until recently and never had such problems. Iirc, 
nvidia-drivers do not care about which version (i mean, freebsd's or 
nvidia's one) you have of agp.ko. It even give you the choice of which 
you want to use. (only if you load the native agp in module, not if it 
is statically compiled). That's in the X configuration file, something 
like NvAgp, and should be set to 0,1 or 2 (it's explained in the 
documentation).

I'd like to add that the port nvidia-driver works just fine.

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icecast, ices

2005-09-18 Thread Cristian Mijea
Hello there,

Trying to build a live music broadcast server on freebsd. So far I
used (at least I gave it a try) Icecast for broadcast and ices to
supply icecast with the actual stream. As I said I never heard a sound
broadcasted.  Somehow ices cannot cope with icecast on my machine.
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone did this before (or using something
else) and if anyone can give me some ideas on this.

Tks,
Cristian
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Re: osx-fbsd-winxp

2005-09-18 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 01:36:14PM +0200, dick hoogendijk wrote:
 What is the best way to let the winxp machine communicate with the
 mac/osx? And what about the fbsd machine. Is there a protocol I can use
 for all three of them?

Depends on when you mean with communicate. 

For exchanging files, all three support SMB/CIFS. Install
/usr/ports/net/samba on FreeBSD. You can then publish a 'share' from the
FreeBSD that the others can connect to.

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frequency is out of range

2005-09-18 Thread Who Dat
I HAVE A GEFORCE 6600  HAD THE SAME PROBLEM...WENT TO ADVANCED SETTINGS 
THEN TO THE ADVANCE THEN TO THE GEFORCE SETTINGS...THEN ON THE SIDEBAR DOWN
TO DISPLAY MODE TIMING  WHEN YOU CLICK HERE A SCREEN WILL POP UP TO THE
RIGHT  AT THE LOWER CONNER (LEFT) YOU'LL SEE ENABLE DOUBLE SCAN FOR LOWER
RES. MODE...UNCHECK THIS  THE PROBLEM SHOULD STOP...

PRAY THIS WILL HELP?

JAMES

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Make movie from many captures in FBSD!

2005-09-18 Thread Carstea Catalin
  I want to make one presentation in FreeBSD and for this i want to
capture for n minutes all events, images, screeens ,. from my O.S
in one movie ( avi, mpg).
  How can i do this ( in KDE ) ?
  


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Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Status of mrprject port

2005-09-18 Thread stan
I was building a new machine, and I wanted to install mrprojetc.
I can't seem to find the port for this. 

Can anyone tell me th status of this port?

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Re: what was it ?

2005-09-18 Thread Michael Abbott

On Sun, 18 Sep 2005, dick hoogendijk wrote:

I'm building an old msdos machine for a little kid (very nostalgic).
But I seem to rememeber that there was an issue about the space of the
harddrive. Some kind of limit I don't remember. How large can a ms-dos
partition be?


Depends on how far back you're going.  If you go back to DOS 3 (my first 
DOS machine) then you're limited to 32MB (M, not G, of course).  My first 
hard disk was so enormous it had to be split into a 32MB C: partition and 
an 8MB D: partition.

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Re: gmake/make dependency problem

2005-09-18 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-09-18 10:07, Harlan Stenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a package that uses automake and autoconf.

 I have a single copy of the source code, and I build in machine-specific
 subdirectories (using NFS).

 I have a master machine which has all of the tools I need; I build
 there first and then build on the other machines.

 One these other machines is an x86 FreeBSD-5.4 machine, and it has the
 stock 'make' on it.

 When I try to build on this machine (after a successful build on the
 master machine) make says that there is an out-of-date source file
 and tries to run some tools to produce the source file.

 This source file is present in the VPATH.  The timestamps on all of
 the files are correct.  make says a file cannot be found and the file
 is clearly there.

 I'm open to suggestions on how to find/fix this problem.

Does the system-clock of the NFS client machine agree with the one on
the NFS server system?

I've had problems with 'outdated' targets in the past whenever an NFS
server's ntpd died (and the system-clock started going off).

Now, I know that posting what seems like an NTP-related to someone with
an email address at ntp.isc.org is as close as I can get to 'herecy',
but I have to ask :)

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Re: Boot Loader Problem

2005-09-18 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
Glenn Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

boot0cfg -B -s 5 ad0
boot0cfg -B -s 2 ad2

I don't remember who asked what before, but you should also try:

boot0cfg -B -s 5 -o packet ad0
boot0cfg -B -s 2 -o packet ad2

 fdisk /dev/ad0
 fdisk /dev/ad2
 bsdlabel /dev/ad0

I wouldn't bother if you don't have BSD on that disk.

 bsdlabel /dev/ad2

and

bsdlabel /dev/ad2s1
bsdlabel /dev/ad2s2
bsdlabel /dev/ad2s3
bsdlabel /dev/ad2s4
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Re: take MS memory stick

2005-09-18 Thread Lowell Gilbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I use FreeBsd 5 generic Kernel. I have a takeMS mem drive 2.0 , 1G
 capacity , for USB . The system recognizes the USB port but when i
 plug the device in i get an error message after 20-30 seconds. The
 device is not listed within the hardware compatibility list of the
 USB Mass-Storage daemon ( umass) and i guess this is the
 problem. The support cdrom that came with the device doesn't mention
 anything about BSD drivers. In fact it is recognized by the linux
 kernel and Win 2k etc. so there only is an install pack for Win
 98. The drivers download page at takeMS homepage is hyronicaly under
 construction.What can i do ?

What version of FreeBSD are you running exactly?  Quirks of specific
devices are understood and better handled all the time, and it's quite
likely that updating your system would get a specific memory disk
working... 
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Re: Bluetooth-related question

2005-09-18 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Andrew Pogrebennyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi! Recently I've bought USB-Bluetooth-adapter and made the following
 changes to setup it in FreeBSD: added ng_ubt_load=YES
 to /boot/loader.conf,
 cp'ed /usr/share/examples/netgraph/bluetooth/rc.bluetooth
 to /etc/rc.bluetooth, chmod'ed 555 /etc/rc.bluetooth and
 changed wrote next lines in /etc/rc.local: 
 
 $ cat /etc/rc.local 
 #!/bin/sh 
 if [ -f /etc/rc.bluetooth ]; 
   then /etc/rc.bluetooth start ubt0 
 fi
 
 Daemons like hcsecd and sdpd will be added to /etc/rc.local when needed.
 Everything works fine but the question is why I'm recieving following
 warning (they're white-colored) during startup: 
 WARNING: attempt to net_add_domain(bluetooth) after domainfinalize() 
 WARNING: attempt to net_add_domain(netgraph) after domainfinalize()
 
 Besides, ubt0: D-Link DBT-122, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2 appears also
 twice. Did I managed everything right, perphaps I should move startup
 of bluetooth stack from rc.local to a more early script? Here's that
 part of dmesg output:
 
 $ dmesg
 Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
 The Regents of the University of California. All rights
 reserved. FreeBSD 6.0-BETA4 #0: Wed Sep 14 12:27:36 EEST 2005
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NEUTRINO
 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
 CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 1700+ (1459.51-MHz 686-class CPU)
   Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0x681  Stepping = 1
 /* stripped */
 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
 sio1: port may not be enabled
 vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on
 isa0 ubt0: D-Link DBT-122, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2
 ubt0: D-Link DBT-122, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2
 ubt0: Interface 0 endpoints: interrupt=0x81, bulk-in=0x82, bulk-out=0x2
 ubt0: Interface 1 (alt.config 4) endpoints: isoc-in=0x83, isoc-out=0x3;
 wMaxPacketSize=64; nframes=5, buffer size=320 ums0: Microsoft Microsoft
 5-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM), rev 1.10/3.00, addr 3, iclass 3/1
 ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. Timecounter TSC frequency 1459506295 Hz
 quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
 ad0: 76319MB Seagate ST380011A 3.06 at ata0-master UDMA100
 acd0: CDROM PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-54TA/1.00 at ata1-master UDMA33
 acd1: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable
 acd1: CDRW ATAPI COMBO52XMAX/VER 1.10 at ata1-slave UDMA33
 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
 pflog0: promiscuous mode enabled
 WARNING: attempt to net_add_domain(bluetooth) after domainfinalize()
 WARNING: attempt to net_add_domain(netgraph) after domainfinalize()
   Regards, Andrew

Do you have anything else using netgraph?
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Re: what was it ?

2005-09-18 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
Yuri van Overmeeren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Depends on the filesystem you use, FAT16 has a 2GB limit, FAT32 (in theory) 
 supports very large partitions but I think
 you could get in trouble at 127GB or 137GB with MS-Dos. Newer MS-Dos (or 
 other doses) support FAT32.

Old is relative, huh?  I recall the big hurdle for a long time was the
BIOS INT 13 limits of 1024/16/63 C/H/S ~= 504 MB.

The minicomputer at work a few years before that had 14 (?) disk
packs of several platters each which held either 5 or 10 MB.

Then there was my first CP/M PC with 48 or 64k RAM and 50k floppies.

And embedded systems that fit in 2k RAM.
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Re: what was it ?

2005-09-18 Thread Sebastien Chassot
On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 13:48 +0200, Yuri van Overmeeren wrote:

 
 Old MS-Dos machines used FAT16, if the hardware is from that time 
 period you also might run into the hardware limitation that BIOS can not 
 adress more then a 32GB harddisk, most drives however have a capactiy 
 limit jumper setting for this reason. (limits drive at 32GB).
 

In BIOS or jumper setting it's call LBA for Large Block Addressing.



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Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: Bluetooth-related question

2005-09-18 Thread Andrew Pogrebennyk
On 18 Sep 2005 09:39:41 -0400
Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Andrew Pogrebennyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Hi! Recently I've bought USB-Bluetooth-adapter and made the
  following changes to setup it in FreeBSD: added ng_ubt_load=YES
  to /boot/loader.conf,
  cp'ed /usr/share/examples/netgraph/bluetooth/rc.bluetooth
  to /etc/rc.bluetooth, chmod'ed 555 /etc/rc.bluetooth and
  changed wrote next lines in /etc/rc.local: 
  
  $ cat /etc/rc.local 
  #!/bin/sh 
  if [ -f /etc/rc.bluetooth ]; 
  then /etc/rc.bluetooth start ubt0 
  fi
  
  Daemons like hcsecd and sdpd will be added to /etc/rc.local when
  needed. Everything works fine but the question is why I'm recieving
  following warning (they're white-colored) during startup: 
  WARNING: attempt to net_add_domain(bluetooth) after
  domainfinalize() WARNING: attempt to net_add_domain(netgraph) after
  domainfinalize()
  
  Besides, ubt0: D-Link DBT-122, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2 appears also
  twice. Did I managed everything right, perphaps I should move
  startup of bluetooth stack from rc.local to a more early script?
  Here's that part of dmesg output:
  
  $ dmesg
  Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
  Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993,
  1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights
  reserved. FreeBSD 6.0-BETA4 #0: Wed Sep 14 12:27:36 EEST 2005
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NEUTRINO
  Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
  CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 1700+ (1459.51-MHz 686-class CPU)
Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0x681  Stepping = 1
  /* stripped */
  sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
  sio1: port may not be enabled
  vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on
  isa0 ubt0: D-Link DBT-122, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2
  ubt0: D-Link DBT-122, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2
  ubt0: Interface 0 endpoints: interrupt=0x81, bulk-in=0x82,
  bulk-out=0x2 ubt0: Interface 1 (alt.config 4) endpoints:
  isoc-in=0x83, isoc-out=0x3; wMaxPacketSize=64; nframes=5, buffer
  size=320 ums0: Microsoft Microsoft 5-Button Mouse with
  IntelliEye(TM), rev 1.10/3.00, addr 3, iclass 3/1 ums0: 5 buttons
  and Z dir. Timecounter TSC frequency 1459506295 Hz quality 800
  Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 76319MB Seagate ST380011A
  3.06 at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CDROM PLEXTOR CD-ROM
  PX-54TA/1.00 at ata1-master UDMA33 acd1: DMA limited to UDMA33,
  device found non-ATA66 cable acd1: CDRW ATAPI COMBO52XMAX/VER
  1.10 at ata1-slave UDMA33 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
  pflog0: promiscuous mode enabled
  WARNING: attempt to net_add_domain(bluetooth) after domainfinalize()
  WARNING: attempt to net_add_domain(netgraph) after domainfinalize()
  Regards,
  Andrew
 
 Do you have anything else using netgraph?

Nothing at all.

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mail From control?

2005-09-18 Thread stan
I'm trying to set up a 4.11 STABLE machine to act as a mail host
for sevral virtual domains. 

I've got i moslty working, but I'm still strugling with SPF. I
_think_ the problem is that the messages coming from a user in
a virtual domain still contain a From header with the real name
of the machine. For example, using mutt I sent a message abck
to myself on this box, It contains the following:

From: stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
which is the virtual domain, and ahs an SPF record.

But it _also_ has this header:

From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep 18 11:03:14 2005

Which is the machine _real_ name. There is presently no SPF
record for this doamin.

sid-milter has this to say about this message:

Authentication-Results: ops2.ivo.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]; sender-id=softfail; 
spf=neutral

I tried turing on the masqurade envolope feature in sendmail, but it did
not seem to change anything.

How can I force the outgoing mesage to appear to be from the virtual doamin
in all espects?

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Re: icecast, ices

2005-09-18 Thread Mark Kane

Cristian Mijea wrote:

Hello there,

Trying to build a live music broadcast server on freebsd. So far I
used (at least I gave it a try) Icecast for broadcast and ices to
supply icecast with the actual stream. As I said I never heard a sound
broadcasted.  Somehow ices cannot cope with icecast on my machine.
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone did this before (or using something
else) and if anyone can give me some ideas on this.

Tks,
Cristian


Hi. Are you trying to stream files from your computer to the Icecast 
server, or do you mean live audio from a soundcard input?


If you want to stream files, then Ices should work pretty good. If you 
want to stream live from the soundcard input, then I would try a program 
called MuSE. It's in ports (/usr/ports/audio/muse), and it is best run 
from the command line (the GUI gave some weird sound skipping problems 
for me). I use it for live shows and it works really well.


-Mark

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Re: mail From control?

2005-09-18 Thread Chuck Swiger

stan wrote:
[ ... ]

I tried turing on the masqurade envolope feature in sendmail, but it did
not seem to change anything.

How can I force the outgoing mesage to appear to be from the virtual doamin
in all espects?


Consider the combination of the following features:

FEATURE(`allmasquerade')dnl
FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')dnl
FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain')dnl

...and use this with some care, although this will work with a virtusertable 
and virtual domains, since this makes tracking down mailing loops difficult 
since you are re-writing so much of the header information.


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Re: osx-fbsd-winxp

2005-09-18 Thread Robert Slade
On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 12:36, dick hoogendijk wrote:
 What is the best way to let the winxp machine communicate with the
 mac/osx? And what about the fbsd machine. Is there a protocol I can use
 for all three of them?

Dick,

You could use VNC one each of the machines to export their desktops.

Rob

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Re: Boot Loader Problem

2005-09-18 Thread John Do
Hi Gary and Glen,

I have the output.  It was sure tiring to write out
and then type back though :)

bsdlabel /dev/ad2s1:

No Valid Label

bsdlabel /dev/ad2s2:

8 partitions

#   size offset  fstype   [fsizebsize   
bps/cpg]

a:  8191983  0   4.2BSD   2048  16384   
28552
b:  2047155  8191983 swap - --
c:  10239138 0   unused   0 0   
#'raw' part don't edit

bsdlabel /dev/ad2s3:
No Valid Label

bsdlabel /dev/ad2s4:
No Such File Or Disk

bsdlabel /dev/ad2:
No Valid Label

bsdlabel /dev/ad0:
No Valid Label


fdisk /dev/ad0
** Working on device /dev/ad0 **
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=39709 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008
blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS partitions not in
cyl 1 parameters to 
be used for BIOS calculations are:

cylinders=39703 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008
blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector
numbering starts with sector 1

Information from DOS bootblock is:

The data for partition 1 is:

sysid 7 (0x07), (OS/2 HPFS, NTFS, QNX-2 (16bit) or
Advanced Unix)
 start 63, size 40001787 (19532 Meg), flag
80(active)
 beg: cyl 0 /head1 /sector 1
 end: cyl 1023 /head 254 /sector 63

The data for partition 2 is:
UNUSED

The data for partition 3 is:
UNUSED

The data for partition 4 is:


fdisk ad2:

** Working on device /dev/ad2 **
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008
blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not
in cyl 1 to be used for BIOS 

calculations are:

cylinders=155061 heads=61 sectors/track=63 (1008
blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:

The data for partion 1 is:

sysid 7(0x07), (OS/2 HPFS, NTFS, QNX-2 (16bit) or
Advanced Unix)
start 63, size 133114527 (64997 Meg), flag 0
  beg: cyl 0 /head 1/ sector 1;
  end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63

The data for partition 2 is:

sysid 165(0xa5), (FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 133114590, size 10239138 (4999 Meg), flag 0
   beg: cyl 986/head 2 /sector 1;
   end: cyl 903/head 15 /sector 63

The data for partion 3 is:
sysid 131 (0x83), (Linux Native)
start 143364060, size 48195 (23 meg), flag 0
   beg: cyl 1023/head 254/sector 63;
   end: cyl 1023/head 254/sector 63

The data for partition 4 is:
UNUSED



boot0cfg -v /dev/ad0

#   flag | start  chs  |   type| end chs  
   |   offset  |  size
1   0x80   0:   1:10x07  1023
254:63  63 40001787

boot0cfg -v /dev/ad2

#   flag | start  chs  |   type| end chs  
   |   offset  |  size
1   0x00   0:   1:10x07  1023
254:63  63 133114527
2   0x00 986:   2:10x05   903 
15:63   133114590 10239138
3   0x001024 254:630x83  1023
254:63   143364060 48195

--- Gary W. Swearingen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Glenn Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 boot0cfg -B -s 5 ad0
 boot0cfg -B -s 2 ad2
 
 I don't remember who asked what before, but you
 should also try:
 
 boot0cfg -B -s 5 -o packet ad0
 boot0cfg -B -s 2 -o packet ad2
 
  fdisk /dev/ad0
  fdisk /dev/ad2
  bsdlabel /dev/ad0
 
 I wouldn't bother if you don't have BSD on that
 disk.
 
  bsdlabel /dev/ad2
 
 and
 
 bsdlabel /dev/ad2s1
 bsdlabel /dev/ad2s2
 bsdlabel /dev/ad2s3
 bsdlabel /dev/ad2s4
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Install GRUB for FreeBSD

2005-09-18 Thread John Do
Anyone know how to install GRUB for FreeBSD when you
can't boot to it?

I am totally lost now guys with the booting.

FreeBSD bootloader has me so frustrated

Linux GRUB is simple and intuitive to use and BSD
loader has me lost after weeks :(

I even installed GRUB into MBR and the BSD bootloader
won't go away! :(

Someone please tell me what the best way to install
grub is

I guess you need it in the MBR but where will the
menu.lst be stored?

Please help thx






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Re: osx-fbsd-winxp

2005-09-18 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On 18 Sep Roland Smith wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 01:36:14PM +0200, dick hoogendijk wrote:
  What is the best way to let the winxp machine communicate with the
  mac/osx? And what about the fbsd machine. Is there a protocol I can
  use for all three of them?
 
 Depends on when you mean with communicate. 
 
 For exchanging files, all three support SMB/CIFS. Install
 /usr/ports/net/samba on FreeBSD. You can then publish a 'share' from
 the FreeBSD that the others can connect to.

Right. ;-) That one is easy.. But the share needs to be on the fbsd
machine then. Can I also share parts of the XP / OSX to each other or
will this be hard to do. My daughter is on osx, her brother on xp and
they do not always want me (fbsd) in the middle ;-)

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gmake can't find Makefile

2005-09-18 Thread dave
Hello,
I've created my first port. It depended on another port, which i
uninstalled first, then tried an install of mine. I issued a
make install
which pulled in the dependent port and installed it. When it returned to the
build of my port gmake failed with an error code2, can not find Makefile and
it stopped. I've confirmed that my Makefile is there, portlint shows no
errors in it. Compiling the package out of it's tarballform requires gmake
for the make and make install process so in my makefile i defined:
USE_GMAKE=yes
variable.
Any advice?
Thanks.
Dave.

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Congestion-management tools

2005-09-18 Thread Carstea Catalin
 i want to use some congestion-management tools to raise the priority
of a http flow but i don't know how.
 i use FBSD 4.11-RELEASE, with ipfw enable . 
 My box is the router of my network.
 
...
 if u say ALTQ - give me some links for documentation.  
 
.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
regards,
Carstea Catalin
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Re: what was it ?

2005-09-18 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On September 18, 2005 1:34:29 PM +0200 dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



I know it is off topic, but I trust you guys in this group to just
remember it.

I'm building an old msdos machine for a little kid (very nostalgic).
But I seem to rememeber that there was an issue about the space of the
harddrive. Some kind of limit I don't remember. How large can a ms-dos
partition be?


It's been a long time, but ISTR that there was a 540MB limit at one time.

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University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
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Re: Install GRUB for FreeBSD

2005-09-18 Thread jonas
hi!

On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 12:08:08 -0400 (EDT)
John Do [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone know how to install GRUB for FreeBSD when you
 can't boot to it?

you need at least one bootable operating system. try a livecd if youre
system doesnt boot at all.

 I even installed GRUB into MBR and the BSD bootloader
 won't go away! :(

make sure you install it to the correct disk!

 
 Someone please tell me what the best way to install
 grub is
 
 I guess you need it in the MBR but where will the
 menu.lst be stored?

AFAIK grub has problems with reading ufs (please correct me if i'm
wrong! maybe it's just because my grub version is a bit old ;) ).
you can get around this by putting the grub config on a partition grub
can read (like ext2fs or fat32) and then just chainload the freebsd
loader installed into the freebsd partition. of course this is not the
best solution but it works for me :)

greets,
jonas
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sendmail not creating pid file

2005-09-18 Thread stan
I was working on sendmail on a 4.11 STABLE amchine today, and I've
been doing various make stop, make start, and make restarts's
in /etc/mail. Now I've noticed that the make stop's are complaining 
baout not finding the PID file, and indeed there is no /var/run/sendmail.pid
file, after a make start But sendmail _does_ seem to be running.

Where should I start looking for this?

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Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-18 Thread Mario Hoerich
# Ted Mittelstaedt:
 # On Behalf Of Frank Jahnke
  
 filled out and saved on a FreeBSD system?
 
 
 PDF doesn't belong in complex forms that are filled out online.  I use
 PDF at my job and we use it for one use only - contracts.  A contract
 must be in paper with a human's signature on it to have any validity
 whatsoever in a court of law, despite what you may read otherwise.

In Germany, electronic signatures conforming to the conditions in
§17 SiG (signature law) and §15 Annex 1 SigV (signature decree)
are as valid as a hard signature and can (for example) be used for
communication with government departments.

The world doesn't end on US borders.


 The Mac isn't
  a gateway to UNIX by any means.  Apple made it easy for Mac users to
  continue to be stone stupid, and the Mac users by and large chose to
  stay stone stupid.  Apple knows it's customer base that's for sure.

*Shrug*.  I'm a CS + Math student and I've used FreeBSD since 3.3 
(Linux before).  I don't think I'm stone stupid.  Yet I happen to
like my Powerbook.


 I find this attitude to be very distressing, but remarkably common.

Yup.

 Sure, users are not as informed as they might be, and they can do stupid
 things.  But they use the computer as a tool to do certain tasks, and
 they shouldn't have to know about how the computer works to accomplish
 those tasks.
 
 Yah yah yah.  I hear the same thing about cars - we shouldn't need to
 know how a car works to drive it  Sure - sounds great.  

Cars != computers.  With cars, failure to understand their basic
features is likely to get people killed.  I don't see that kind
of risk with ordinary PCs.  The analogy is thus pointless.

You could just as well demand that anyone ever using mathematics
knows the entire theory behind it.  Next time you assume that
1*(1 + 1) = 2 (in |R), please take a brief moment to remind
yourself that the result is guaranteed to exist solely because |R
is a field and thus both (|R, +) and (|R, *) form abelean groups,
i.e. |R is closed under both addition and multiplication.  
Please remember as well the proof that 1 is uniquely identified,
2 defined as 1+1 and thus 2 is uniquely identified as well.
Don't forget that 1 is also the neutral element of (|R, *)
and thus you can safely assume that 1*(1+1) = (1+1).

And sure as hell hope you never need \pi, because that's a
rather unpleasant series, even using the simple Leibniz
formula.


 It's like teaching mathematics in school.  You can teach the kids to do
 addition, subtraction, multiplication and division by hand, so they
 understand what is going on, 

No, they don't.  Mathematics in school is nothing but a desktop
for real mathematics.  With just school mathematics, you don't
understand the slightest thing of what's going on, but you've
learned how to use it.  The above example is *very* basic (this
is the stuff you usually learn at the very beginning of your
first math-lecture at a university), but you won't learn any
of that in school.  At least not around here.

A more advanced example are integrals.  You learn how to integrate,
but you haven't got the slightest clue an integral is really defined
as (from the top of my head)

\int f := \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} f_k

where each f_k is a step function, i.e. an element of the
vector space \mathcal{F}_{ST}(|R,|R) spanned by the elementary
functions g_i. That is:
f_k := \sum_{i=1}^{k} \lamda_i g_i
with
g_i(x) := \begin{cases}1  x \in [a,b[ \\ 0  otherwise\end{cases}

There's a *lot* of theory behind those few lines and believe me,
it ain't pretty or simple.  However, there's no reason anyone
but a mathematician should care about this.

That's why the desktop school mathematics exists.  So people
who aren't interested in mathematics won't have to deal with
its intricacies.

I think this is a better analogy than yours, because in both cases
  i) the matters involved are widely considered complicated.
  
 ii) the users have to deal with virtual quantities, i.e. they
 can't touch them.  This tends to be a problem for many people.
 
iii) the risks involved are pretty much the same.

None of this applies to cars.


 It seems that you are arguing the BSDs (Free, Net, Open and so on)
 should be used only for servers (and perhaps a few other applications
 like embedded systems), and to leave the desktop to the Mac and Windows.
 
 No, you are missing the point totally.  I'm arguing that the so-called
 desktop isn't important.

For you.  There's other needs than yours and they're of no less
importance.

 The desktop needs to serve as a portal to the real applications
 and processing, which is centralized.  It is a means to an end,
 not an end itself.  The servers in the center that are doing the
 Really Important Work are of course all FreeBSD. 

This doesn't exactly make sense for home PCs.  I'll certainly not
stick another machine in my single room appartment so I have a
server.


[ data on notebooks ]
 Move the data to a central location and the notebook 

Re: what was it ?

2005-09-18 Thread dgmm
On Sunday 18 September 2005 12:34, dick hoogendijk wrote:
 I'm building an old msdos machine for a little kid (very nostalgic).
 But I seem to rememeber that there was an issue about the space of the
 harddrive. Some kind of limit I don't remember. How large can a ms-dos
 partition be?

How old?

32MB is one number which comes to mind from MS-DOS 3.2 days.

I've just repaired an old PC for a friend (Pentium 133MMX).  While testing, I 
used an old 10GB HDD I had lying around.  The BIOS would only see it as 8GB  
It didn't understand the existing 10GB bootable Win98 partition/OS on it.

-- 
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RE: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-18 Thread Frank Jahnke

 
 One example: how do you suggest that complex forms in PDF format are
 filled out and saved on a FreeBSD system?
 
 
 PDF doesn't belong in complex forms that are filled out online.  

I didn't say these were filled on on line -- that can be done just fine
with OSS or the free Adobe Reader products.  What I was talking about
was downloading PDF forms, filling them out locally, and saving them.
Right now OSS and other free products can fill out forms and have them
printed -- they cannot be saved.  When the forms are 45 pages or more,
treating the computer as a simple typewriter is just silly.  You need to
be able to go back and edit them.  I know of no way to do that with
anything other than a proprietary product, such as Acrobat.  I have that
running under Wine on BSD.

 I use
 PDF at my job and we use it for one use only - contracts.  A contract
 must be in paper with a human's signature on it to have any validity
 whatsoever in a court of law, despite what you may read otherwise.  The
 PDF forms we send out are NOT intended to be filled out and printed, they
 are designed to be printed only, then the printout filled out and signed
 by hand.  And we have alternative formats available (such as word doc)
 for those who don't have Acrobat loaded.  I'd send these out in .png
 format
 if I figured the user could print them off without botching the printout.
 Or in PostScript to be fed directly to the printer.
 
 Every other type of form we deal with that doesn't have to stand up to
 legal scrutiny (ie: needs a siggy) we have long ago migrated to online
 webforms.

That's fine: the documents I'm describing are downloaded, completed
locally, signed, copied, and submitted (an original and six to eight
copies).  That your company does it differently is wonderful.  I don't
have a choice in this matter, if I wish to do business with this
concern.  And I do -- there are $24 billion in proposals that are funded
annually that I would like to take part in.

In many ways, this sums up the entire disagreement: I'm saying I have a
need that I have to deal with.  You are saying I shouldn't have that
need if they did it properly.  In this case, they don't.  So I need
to deal with it, and some Windows applications work just fine.  I'd just
like to run them on the computer where I do the majority of my work.
 

 No, you are missing the point totally.  I'm arguing that the so-called
 desktop isn't important.  The desktop needs to serve as a portal to
 the real applications and processing, which is centralized.  It is a
 means to an end, not an end itself.  The servers in the center that are
 doing the Really Important Work are of course all FreeBSD.  If Microsoft
 wants to spend it's life writing goopy gimpy winders that runs on the
 latest Far East dreck, more power to them as long as they put a decent
 networking stack in the thing so that my xterms don't get disconnected
 all the time.

So here we are at the crux of it, and I haven't missed that point at
all.  As I said, I have no issue with a server-client architecture, and
I'll extend that all the way to having a mainframe and terminals.  For
many situations, it is a better or at least a reasonable way to go.  If
the only issue is how much local power or intelligence remains, that's
fine.  

I do think that there will remain a lot processing that is done locally,
like the web browsing that started this whole thread off, particularly
for smaller concerns such as mine.  For smaller companies having
desktops works well enough, and is probably a better use of resources.
It is in my case, where the needs are rather diverse and complex.

 One example: an
 electronic laboratory notebook that complies with FDA tracability and
 data integrity requirements.
 
 
 You see this is a perfect example once again.  Why do you need
 traceability and
 data integrity on a notebook?  Because there's data there!!  Move the
 data to a central location and the notebook becomes a dumb window with
 no data on it, and there's no need to pay attention to the notebook.

A laboratory notebook is a term of art that describes the legal
documentation of laboratory work which is ultimately used for patent
prosecution and FDA approvals, among others.  An electronic laboratory
notebook is simply its electronic version, and there are companies who
have tailored products to fulfill patenting and FDA requirements.  These
are specialized databases where access and modification rights (among
other things) are handled carefully, and yes, they are all server-client
based, though the client end does process a lot of data from diverse
sources (like LIMs-- laboratory information management systems) before
it is approved and entered to the central database.

Nowhere did I say anything about a notebook computer.

I was pointing out the need for a certain kind of software that is
available for Windows that will not be filled by the OSS community.
Whether the application will be ported by an ISV I have no way of

Re: mail From control?

2005-09-18 Thread stan
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 12:04:09PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 stan wrote:
 [ ... ]
 I tried turing on the masqurade envolope feature in sendmail, but it did
 not seem to change anything.
 
 How can I force the outgoing mesage to appear to be from the virtual doamin
 in all espects?
 
 Consider the combination of the following features:
 
 FEATURE(`allmasquerade')dnl
 FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')dnl
 FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain')dnl
 
 ...and use this with some care, although this will work with a 
 virtusertable and virtual domains, since this makes tracking down mailing 
 loops difficult since you are re-writing so much of the header information.

Thansk for the quick reply.

I added those lines, and I've got  the follwing in /etc/mail/genericstable

stan[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and this in generics-domains

which I;ve defined with this

GENERICS_DOMAIN_FILE(`/etc/mail/generics-domains')

in the .mc file, but a test mesage aftere restartign sendmail still
has:

From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep 18 12:26:57 2005
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In the headers.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?





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Changing Console Video Modes

2005-09-18 Thread Harout S. Hedeshian
Users,

This is my first time on this list so I hope I am posting in the
right place. I have been a Linux user for some time and I am trying out
FreeBSD as some people recommended it. In my previous Mandrake (now
Mandriva) Linux system, I could pass a kernel parameter in the LILO
configuration file to set the console video mode (like vga=xxx). I ran it
at 1024x768 and sometimes 1280x1024 (depending on the computer) to allow
more text on the console. I am trying to do the same for my FreeBSD system.
A quick Google search brought up this tutorial:
http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/. But, I'm not sure it does what I
want. It takes parameters in terms of character-cell dimensions and not
pixel dimensions. My question is, how do you tell the kernel to use 1024x768
as the video mode without having to deal with fonts? Is there an easy way to
do it, or am I crazy to even ask?

 

Oh, and one more thing, in Linux, the console is colorful. For example, if
you type ls, directories are blue, executables are green, symlinks are
teal etc. Is there a way to make the console (or at least ls) colorful in
FreeBSD?

 

Thanks,

Harout Hedeshian

 



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mounting UFS under Linux

2005-09-18 Thread Eugene M. Minkovskii
Hello, please tell me, how can I (if I can) mount UFS2 partition
under Linux (I install gentoo Linux 2005.1).

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Setting up routes correctly for FBSD box to access WAN

2005-09-18 Thread Garrett Cooper

Hello,
I am currently trying to use a network bridge via my Mac for my  
FreeBSD machine and Windows machine to access the outside world  
because I have not purchased a wireless PCI card for my FreeBSD box  
and the only means to connect is via wireless.

So my network topology looks like this:

| FBSD | - | Mac | - | Outside world |

What I want to do is setup the routes correctly such that all  
packets are forwarded from the Mac to the FreeBSD machine, and vice  
versa. I got this working last night but I fubared my routing tables  
and had to restart my machine, such that I thought I failed.
So my question is, how do I properly set the value for gateway  
for the FBSD machine or use the route command to create a static  
route for all IP values not 192.168.1.0/20?

Thanks,
-Garrett
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Re: what was it ?

2005-09-18 Thread Boris Karloff
On Sunday 18 September 2005 12:34, dick hoogendijk wrote:
 I'm building an old msdos machine for a little kid (very
nostalgic).
 But I seem to rememeber that there was an issue about the
space of the
 harddrive. Some kind of limit I don't remember. How large
can a ms-dos
 partition be?

How old?

32MB is one number which comes to mind from MS-DOS 3.2
days.

I've just repaired an old PC for a friend (Pentium 133MMX).
 While testing, I 
used an old 10GB HDD I had lying around.  The BIOS would
only see it as 8GB  
It didn't understand the existing 10GB bootable Win98
partition/OS on it.

-- 
Dave

When IDE drives were first introduced, they stored
information in CMOS as to their size. Sectors were always
512 bytes in size, and they were limited to 1024 cylinders,
255 heads and 63 sectors. Multiplying this out, you get
about 504Mb (some manufacturers claimed 528Mb, because they
were counting a megabyte as 1,000,000 bytes instead of the
programming standard of 1,048,576 bytes). 

To break this barrier, Logical Block Addressing (LBA) was
instituted about 1994. Some refer to this as int13
extensions, because it translated cylinder, head and sector
(CHS) values to 28 bit values. This translated value was
then used to map the location on the hard disk.

MS DOS and Windows 3.1 used FAT16 architecture, which was
unable to address a partition larger than 2Gb (2047Mb).
Windows 95 was originally released with this limitation
also. Since there are exactly 4 primary partitions on any
hard disk, this limited the size of the hard disk to 8Gb
(some called this the 8.4Gb barrier).

About 1998, Windows 95(B) and later changed to a FAT32
architecture. In theory, this should be able to address 2
Terabytes, but BIOS limitations with int13 limited this to
8.4Gb per partition. This created a limitation of about 32Gb
(some manufacturers refer to this as a 37Gb limit). For the
most part, however, Windows 95(B), Windows 98 and Windows Me
could not efficiently use even 32Gb, since the minimum space
allocated for a file was also increased, and the time to
calculate the free space at startup and retrieval slowed
with increasing size. Windows 2000 claimed to be built on
Windows NT, but it recognized FAT32 as well as NTFS (Windows
NT4.0 did not recognize FAT partitions). As a result, it was
easy to set up Windows 2000 with really sluggish behavior
(thus the phrase 'Windoze').

BIOS programmers then applied LBA technology to newer
drives, and drives larger than 32Gb were now available for
Windows. This adaptation allowed drives as large as 128Gb to
be used (137Gb barrier). However, a limitation of FAT32
prevented a single file from being larger than 4Gb. 

Starting with Windows NT, and the default in Windows XP is
the NTFS file system; which addresses some of these limits.
These use a 32 bit architecture, which places the limits in
the 2 Terabyte range. Other limitations prevent this from
being realized, however. 

To answer the question originally placed:

Early versions of MSDOS cannot utilize a drive larger than
2Gb (4 partitions of 504Mb). MSDOS 5 and 6 could handle
drives up to 8.4Gb (4 partitions of 2047Mb). Old machines
that only run MSDOS usually have a BIOS limitation hard
wired, but using LBA helps if available.

Many old computers with these limitations will not recognize
a drive larger than 8.4Gb at all. Generally, if the computer
relies on int13 extensions, a drive larger than 8.4Gb will
not be detected during powerup, and 'no bootable drive
present' is reported.

This, of course, assumes you are using an IDE drive, not one
of the other variants that MSDOS was notorious for (like
ESDI,MFM or RLL). Using a SCSI controller allowed larger
drives to be used, but still FAT16 couldn't address larger
partitions.

The question to ask you is: WHY would you want to use
MSDOS??
FreeBSD 4.11 has minimum hardware requirements that rival
most DOS systems, and its more stable, more robust, and more
powerful. WHY perpetuate the arcane in the new
generation? Encourage your youth to learn a real OS
(like BSD) from the start.

Harold.



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laptop question...

2005-09-18 Thread Jeff D. Hamann
I'm about to purchase a sager np3880 laptop:

http://www.discountlaptops.com/index.php?section=specsmodel_id=1176category_id=category_theme=c1

and want to know if there might be any problems with the hardware
especially the usb and video. Has anyone been able to get wuxga (1900x1200
screen sizes) while running freebsd? I'm in the middle of purchasing new
machines and I'm struggling with the concept of running wine so I can run
MS Windows apps (ms office access+vba) or should I not bother with freebsd
(5.4/6.0) and stick with xp?

The video data is

PCI Express x16 3D Accelerator
128MB DDR2 PCI-e nVIDIA GeForce Go 6600 Video Memory

and what is the experience with power management. I've seen lots of
complaints about laptops going to sleep and never waking up...

Jeff.



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Updating SendMail

2005-09-18 Thread Gerard Seibert
I currently have Sendmail 8.13.3 installed. If I do a:

make buildworld
make installworld

will that update Sendmail to 8.13.5 (the latest version) I did notice
that version in the ports tree, but I think I read somewhere that, that
is not the correct way to update Sendmail on FreeBSD.

I have FreeBSD 5.4 installed.

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Re: gmake can't find Makefile

2005-09-18 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-09-18 12:12, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 I've created my first port. It depended on another port, which i
 uninstalled first, then tried an install of mine. I issued a
 make install
 which pulled in the dependent port and installed it. When it returned to the
 build of my port gmake failed with an error code2, can not find Makefile and
 it stopped. I've confirmed that my Makefile is there, portlint shows no
 errors in it. Compiling the package out of it's tarballform requires gmake
 for the make and make install process so in my makefile i defined:
 USE_GMAKE=yes
 variable.
 Any advice?

Can you post a tarball of the two ports online somewhere, so we can test
their build too?

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Re: vinium

2005-09-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sean wrote:
 I was just wanted to ask if anyone is using vinium on a standalone 
system?


 I was reading about it in Greg Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD and am
 wondering if it is something that might be beneficial?

We used vinum on our production server for RAID 1 (2 x 36 GB SCSI) under 
4.x. Everything went fine for 2-3 years, even exchange of one of the 
HDDs that broke.


Now with 5.4 we use gmirror for RAID 1 (2 x 73 GB SCSI). So far 
everything is fine.


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Re: Updating SendMail

2005-09-18 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-09-18 15:11, Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I currently have Sendmail 8.13.3 installed. If I do a:

 make buildworld
 make installworld

 will that update Sendmail to 8.13.5 (the latest version)

Yes.  This will update the base system version of Sendmail too :-)

Make sure you run 'mergemaster' to merge any changes to the /etc/mail
files, update your local /etc/mail/hostname.mc file, install the new
*.cf files and restart Sendmail.

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Konfabulator widget knockoffs?

2005-09-18 Thread Louis LeBlanc
Crazy question here maybe, but I'm pretty fascinated by the
Konfabulator and MacOS X widgets that are becoming more and more
popular.  Very cool little clients.  The what to do widget is just
great, and there's tons of other excellent widgets, like the weather
and search utilities.

I've looked at the ports directory, and can't find anything that looks
like these little gadgets.  Does anyone have any idea if such a thing
is available for FreeBSD/Linux?

Lou
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Re: what was it ?

2005-09-18 Thread Eric Schuele

dick hoogendijk wrote:

I know it is off topic, but I trust you guys in this group to just
remember it.

I'm building an old msdos machine for a little kid (very nostalgic).
But I seem to rememeber that there was an issue about the space of the
harddrive. Some kind of limit I don't remember. How large can a ms-dos
partition be?



Per KB Article 118335
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q118335/

Microsoft MS-DOS versions 4.0 and later allow FDISK to partition hard 
disks up to 4 gigabytes (GB) in size. However, the MS-DOS file 
allocation table (FAT) file system can support only 2 GB per partition. 
Because of this fact, a hard disk between 2 and 4 GB in size must be 
broken down into multiple partitions, each of which does not exceed 2 GB.


FAT file system is limited to 65,525 clusters. The size of a cluster 
must be a power of 2 and less than 65,536 bytes--this results in a 
maximum cluster size of 32,768 bytes (32K). Multiplying the maximum 
number of clusters (65,525) by the maximum cluster size (32,768) equals 
2 GB.


Note that the hard disk drive must be supported by the computer's ROM 
BIOS APIs, which have a 1024-cylinder limitation, in order for FDISK to 
partition the hard disk.


HTH

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Re: what was it ?

2005-09-18 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:09:23 +0100
dgmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How old?
 
 32MB is one number which comes to mind from MS-DOS 3.2 days.
 
 I've just repaired an old PC for a friend (Pentium 133MMX).  While testing, I 
 used an old 10GB HDD I had lying around.  The BIOS would only see it as 8GB  
 It didn't understand the existing 10GB bootable Win98 partition/OS on it.

In replying to this messages I want to thank all of you who responded
to my OT question. I'm using msdos-6.22 therefore fat32 is a no go (it
was supported as of dos7). At the moment I have a 1.4Gb drive in the
machine which works ;-) (2gb limit) I'll replace it with a 10Gb drive :
2Gb for dos and 8Gb for win98. It should run all the kid will need on
his old P.I-166.

I lost quite some hours today in replaying some old games I used to
play a lot years ago. Kyrandia i.e. has some music that used to
hypnotise me. Never did again until today. I found one of those old
original soundblaster-16 isa cards. Boy o boy, it was like everything
came back..

I *never* understood why those modern soundcards are NOT able to
imitate that old soundblaster-16 isa-sound. They don't even come close.
The sb16 sound is unique and only the real thing brought back quite
some memories. What a sound.

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laptop question...

2005-09-18 Thread Boris Karloff
I'm Curious,

Why did you select this laptop over other, more common
brands (HP, Sony, Toshiba, etc)? Prices are similar.

http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCategory.asp?SubCategory=32

My vote is to abandon Windows XP, and, for that matter, MS
office. OpenOffice is really becoming a formidable
contender, and its price is right. Depending on which VBA
you mean (is this the Visual Basic purchased separately, or
the Visual Basic for Applications that came packaged with
Office, a different animal), there are interpreters for
Basic available for *nix environments; but more powerful
programming languages are more common. People often
originally learned Basic as a simple way to get a specific
task done, but MS has lost this concept, rolling their
programming language into an all-encompassing beast of a
package they call .NET. Now, to get even a simple
computational result, you have to perform all this overhead.
*nix has many compilers that remain simple to use. MS really
shot themselves in the foot with that one, didn't they?

If you feel you must be on the bleeding edge, then be sure
to avoid Windows XP home. It doesn't have a full complement
of networking components. You may not need it today, but
someday you might. 

The hardware you spec'd should run freeBSD fine. Check on an
option to purchase the computer without an OS, sometimes
this is cheaper. Be wary of win-modems (soft modems) and
more recently, win-printers (soft printers). These depend on
part of the firmware being available in the OS, which means
they only work with recent versions of Windows. Many
Win-modems have been ported to Linux, notably the ones based
on the Lucent chipset. Win-printers haven't been so
fortunate. You can usually recognize these from the specs,
since they don't list support for PCL, postscript, or other
printer language in their specs. These are not wise
purchases. 

Harold.


I'm about to purchase a sager np3880 laptop:

http://www.discountlaptops.com/index.php?section=specsmodel_id=1176category...

and want to know if there might be any problems with the
hardware
especially the usb and video. Has anyone been able to get
wuxga (1900x1200
screen sizes) while running freebsd? I'm in the middle of
purchasing new
machines and I'm struggling with the concept of running wine
so I can run
MS Windows apps (ms office access+vba) or should I not
bother with freebsd
(5.4/6.0) and stick with xp?

The video data is

PCI Express x16 3D Accelerator
128MB DDR2 PCI-e nVIDIA GeForce Go 6600 Video Memory

and what is the experience with power management. I've seen
lots of
complaints about laptops going to sleep and never waking
up...

Jeff.



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Re: frequency is out of range

2005-09-18 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:46:42 -0500
Who Dat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I HAVE A GEFORCE 6600  HAD THE SAME PROBLEM...WENT TO ADVANCED SETTINGS 
 THEN TO THE ADVANCE THEN TO THE GEFORCE SETTINGS...THEN ON THE SIDEBAR DOWN
 TO DISPLAY MODE TIMING  WHEN YOU CLICK HERE A SCREEN WILL POP UP TO THE
 RIGHT  AT THE LOWER CONNER (LEFT) YOU'LL SEE ENABLE DOUBLE SCAN FOR LOWER
 RES. MODE...UNCHECK THIS  THE PROBLEM SHOULD STOP...
 
 PRAY THIS WILL HELP?

I take it you're using the nvidia drivers with freeBSD5.4 with this?
At the moment I use nv on a normal Xorg configuration. I have no need
for the qualities of my GForce 6600 on freeBSD (I use it on XP for
games.. well, at least my family is). I DO want to act Xorg as stable
as can be. So I don't get it when all of a sudden the frequency is out
of range As I understand it this should not happen, but if I
understand you correctly you want me to use nvidia drivers and make the
necessary adjustments???

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Re: how to rename a file with !, ?, and other strange chars?

2005-09-18 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 04:57:35AM -0400, Parv wrote:
 in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 wrote Gary Kline thusly...
 
  I scarfed up a slew of php files that are around 100 bytes in
  strlen and with \  and other non-shell-friendly bytes.  Is there
  a way to use perl to chop off the first N bytes?
  
  For example, a file many be named 1\ 2xyz\?3=Test.php.
  What's the most logical way to perl this file to Test.php?
 
 Perl:
   http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=303814
   http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=277174
 

I've just signed aboard as a novice perlmonk...

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CD Burning problem

2005-09-18 Thread Beecher Rintoul
Since upgrading a couple of times I'm now seeing this error when burning to a 
CD:

Sep 18 11:43:36 stargate kernel: acd0: WARNING - READ_BUFFER read data overrun 
30724
Sep 18 11:43:36 stargate kernel: acd0: WARNING - MODE_SENSE_BIG read data 
overrun 13616
Sep 18 11:43:36 stargate kernel: acd0: WARNING - MODE_SENSE_BIG read data 
overrun 13616
Sep 18 11:43:36 stargate kernel: acd0: WARNING - READ_TOC read data overrun 
404
Sep 18 11:43:36 stargate kernel: acd0: WARNING - READ_TOC read data overrun 
4028
Sep 18 11:45:30 stargate kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 
0, blkno: 83845, size: 4096
Sep 18 11:46:10 stargate last message repeated 2 times
Sep 18 11:46:30 stargate kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 
0, blkno: 83845, size: 4096

uname:
FreeBSD stargate 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #6: Sat Sep 17 05:36:55 AKDT 
2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/STARGATE  i386

The box in question has 256Mb of ram and 256M Swap X2 (256Mb on each drive).

I have not seen this error before, k3b will no longer verify the disk (errors 
out) and the box becomes unresponsive till the CD finishes.  The CD seems to 
be ok. Any suggestions?

TIA,

Beech
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FreeBSD not booting after RAID array rebuild

2005-09-18 Thread Bob Ababurko

Hello-

I am working on getting a box running with a NetRAID 3 (D4943) card.  I 
have had a few issues so far, so I am hoping that I can work through 
this one as well.


Ok, the setup is this, I have the card(D4943), Biostar M7VIG 400 mobo, 
(4) WD 9.15GB 10k U2W LVD SCSI  drives, three of which are in RAID 5 and 
the last being a hotspare set to auto rebuild.  The OS is 
installed(freebsd 5.4) and running on the array.  At first I had trouble 
getting the card to boot, but I had to set the option to standard MBR in 
the install as opposed to none, which I am used to using for PC 
hardware.  The box boots fine, but the problem comes in when a drive is 
failed.


I failed a drive on purpose to make sure that this card is gonna work 
and how I was going to deal with a failed drive.  What I did to test was 
shut the box down and unplug one of the drives from the RAID5 volume.  I 
booted the box back up and the alarm started going off and the HS drive 
light went on telling me that is was rebuilding...I also checked in the 
RAID card utility and it also said the drive was rebuilding.  I could 
not get the computer to boot into the OS when the card was rebuilding. 
I was under the impression that I would have a accessible system, just 
in a degraded performance mode.  When the drive was done rebuilding and 
the volume back to optimum(shown in Raid Utility), I booted the system 
and everything looks good until the OS starts to boot.  When the dash 
starts to spin the box reboots itself.  This is at least telling me that 
something is accessed in the array, but something is making it reboot.


I did another test on a running box at a login prompt.  A drive in array 
unplugged and then the alarm goes off and hotspare starts t rebuild. 
Another problem is that I cannot log in.  I enter user/passwd and hear 
drive activity when I press enter, but no login.  I just keeps giving me 
a login prompt until an error pops up saying that getty is being run to 
fast and is going to sleep for 30s.  After rebuild still not boot.


If anyone has any idea what is happening here, I would love to hear as I 
am spending mucho time on this already and would like to at least know 
what I can or cannot do to fix this.


TIA,
Bob
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Re: what was it ?

2005-09-18 Thread Yuri van Overmeeren

dick hoogendijk wrote:


On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:09:23 +0100
dgmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


How old?

32MB is one number which comes to mind from MS-DOS 3.2 days.

I've just repaired an old PC for a friend (Pentium 133MMX).  While testing, I 
used an old 10GB HDD I had lying around.  The BIOS would only see it as 8GB  
It didn't understand the existing 10GB bootable Win98 partition/OS on it.
   



In replying to this messages I want to thank all of you who responded
to my OT question. I'm using msdos-6.22 therefore fat32 is a no go (it
was supported as of dos7). At the moment I have a 1.4Gb drive in the
machine which works ;-) (2gb limit) I'll replace it with a 10Gb drive :
2Gb for dos and 8Gb for win98. It should run all the kid will need on
his old P.I-166.

I lost quite some hours today in replaying some old games I used to
play a lot years ago. Kyrandia i.e. has some music that used to
hypnotise me. Never did again until today. I found one of those old
original soundblaster-16 isa cards. Boy o boy, it was like everything
came back..

I *never* understood why those modern soundcards are NOT able to
imitate that old soundblaster-16 isa-sound. They don't even come close.
The sb16 sound is unique and only the real thing brought back quite
some memories. What a sound.

 

You could try FreeDOS (http://www.freedos.org/), It's 100% MS-Dos 
compatible and is more modern so it supports things as large disks and 
FAT32 (amongst other things)


I've had a good deal of fun using old dos apps and playing old dos games 
on it.


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Re: Boot Loader Problem

2005-09-18 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
John Do [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

fdisk, etc, looked good.

 boot0cfg -v /dev/ad0

 #   flag | start  chs  |   type| end chs  
|   offset  |  size
 1   0x80   0:   1:10x07  1023 254:63  63 
 40001787

OK.

 boot0cfg -v /dev/ad2

 #   flag | start  chs  |   type| end chs  
|   offset  |  size
 1   0x00   0:   1:10x07  1023 254:63  63 
 133114527
 2   0x00 986:   2:10x05   903  15:63   133114590 
 10239138
 3   0x001024 254:630x83  1023 254:63   143364060 48195

The type on line 2 should be 0xa5, not 0x05, but I suspect a typo.
I don't know if one of the flag's needs to be 0x80, or not.  Both of
my disks have one marked 0x80.  It's probably OK, and just means
you don't have a default slice, eg, set with -s 2 in boot0cfg.

 I don't remember who asked what before, but you should also try:
 
 boot0cfg -B -s 5 -o packet ad0
 boot0cfg -B -s 2 -o packet ad2

You didn't say if you tried those, but it doesn't seem to be the
problem (yet).  You would need -o packet on ad2 and LBA BIOS mode, I
think since your FreeBSD slice goes past 1024 cyls.

But that 133114590 number looks right, and I see no other problem.

So it looks like the the MBR code just doesn't see the second disk.
Probably because the BIOS doesn't play well with the MBR code, and I
can't think why.  It should even have to get the geometry right since
it only has to grab the first sector of the disk.  And you know other
software can see the disk.  At this point I'd give up on boot0 and
try to find a Grub (or GAG?) floppy to boot from.  It should let you
boot both systems.  Or try a boot manager from the MSFT world.

Sorry.
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Re: gmake/make dependency problem

2005-09-18 Thread Harlan Stenn
Yes, ntp is running on that machine and the clocks are OK!

On that machine, gmake does not try and build this target, but 'make'
does.

Automake supports the BSD and GNU versions of 'make' and this is one
of the things I am trying to check.

I'm checking now to see if I have a tarball of the code that will
duplicate the problem 'outside' of my development environment.

H

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Re: Install GRUB for FreeBSD

2005-09-18 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
John Do [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Linux GRUB is simple and intuitive to use and BSD
 loader has me lost after weeks :(

I know both enough to say that BSD's is way more intuitive
and much simpler to configure and install.

 I even installed GRUB into MBR and the BSD bootloader
 won't go away! :(

I've made mine go away several times.  Note that you
shouldn't need to get rid of the MBR on the second disk,
with Grub on the first.  I don't know if Grub can be made
to boot the second disk's MBR, or not.  Probably.

 Someone please tell me what the best way to install
 grub is

 I guess you need it in the MBR but where will the
 menu.lst be stored?

It starts out on a floppy file system.  Then you either
just boot off the floppy, or you install it to the hard disk MBR,
other first-track sectors, and maybe your OS's root FS.  I don't
recall if you need a menu.lst or not.  That is, I don't know if
Grub can be installed only to the first track, or needs the
menu.lst in an FS; it seems like a bad requirement, if so.

You might search the Internet for a pre-build Grub floppy.
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Re: Boot Loader Problem

2005-09-18 Thread John Do
Hi Gary

Thanks for your help.  I am perplexed and frustrated
by BSD's bootloader :)

 boot0cfg -B -s 5 -o packet ad0
 boot0cfg -B -s 2 -o packet ad2

I did't try those yet because I wanted to see if you
could find a problem first.

I'll try those in a bit.

In the mean time I created a GRUB ISO boot CD and I
can simply boot BSD by booting with the GRUB CD and
typing:

rootnoverify (hd2,1)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot

GRUB has always been simple and intuitive for me so
I'll stick with that and stay away from the hell of
the BSD boot loader :)

This really is my only gripe about FreeBSD I think it
should include GRUB or they need to create a better
native loader.

Thanks Gary and I'll let you know what happens with
the boot0cfg
--- Gary W. Swearingen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 John Do [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 fdisk, etc, looked good.
 
  boot0cfg -v /dev/ad0
 
  #   flag | start  chs  |   type| end
 chs  
 |   offset  |  size
  1   0x80   0:   1:10x07  1023
 254:63  63 40001787
 
 OK.
 
  boot0cfg -v /dev/ad2
 
  #   flag | start  chs  |   type| end
 chs  
 |   offset  |  size
  1   0x00   0:   1:10x07  1023
 254:63  63 133114527
  2   0x00 986:   2:10x05   903 
 15:63   133114590 10239138
  3   0x001024 254:630x83  1023
 254:63   143364060 48195
 
 The type on line 2 should be 0xa5, not 0x05, but I
 suspect a typo.
 I don't know if one of the flag's needs to be 0x80,
 or not.  Both of
 my disks have one marked 0x80.  It's probably OK,
 and just means
 you don't have a default slice, eg, set with -s 2
 in boot0cfg.
 
  I don't remember who asked what before, but you
 should also try:
  
  boot0cfg -B -s 5 -o packet ad0
  boot0cfg -B -s 2 -o packet ad2
 
 You didn't say if you tried those, but it doesn't
 seem to be the
 problem (yet).  You would need -o packet on ad2 and
 LBA BIOS mode, I
 think since your FreeBSD slice goes past 1024 cyls.
 
 But that 133114590 number looks right, and I see no
 other problem.
 
 So it looks like the the MBR code just doesn't see
 the second disk.
 Probably because the BIOS doesn't play well with the
 MBR code, and I
 can't think why.  It should even have to get the
 geometry right since
 it only has to grab the first sector of the disk. 
 And you know other
 software can see the disk.  At this point I'd give
 up on boot0 and
 try to find a Grub (or GAG?) floppy to boot from. 
 It should let you
 boot both systems.  Or try a boot manager from the
 MSFT world.
 
 Sorry.
 







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Re: how to rename a file with !, ?, and other strange chars?

2005-09-18 Thread Parv
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 On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 04:57:35AM -0400, Parv wrote:

[perlmonks.org references]

 I've just signed aboard as a novice perlmonk...

You shall eventually be rewarded for your hard work and dedication.
Welcome to the cult.


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Re: Regarding packages and ports, up to dateness

2005-09-18 Thread Milscvaer

Thank you for your help answering these questions
regarding these issues. 

Is it necessary to keep ports collection up to date in
order to use portupgrade to get the latest packages?
Also, what determiines where portupgrade will download
packages from, and what whether it will download from
STABLE or RELEASE, etc. I see nothing about this in
its documentation. Can I just set sysinstall to use
STABLE and download new packages from within
sysinstall? As well when I try to run cvsup, it
complains Cannot get IP address of my own host -- is
its hostname correct?. Of course I do not have a
valid hostname, I am behind a firewall with a private
IP. I dont know why it assumes everyone has a valid
hostname. This makes cvsup quite diffcult to use for
me. 

Also, incompatabilities between programs and libraries
are a concern. Are programs always linked to specific
version of a library, is there any concern that if I
upgrade a program and it installs a new version of a
library, another program which previously used an
older version of the library will end up using the new
version and causing some sort of incompatability (they
would call this DLL-hell on Windows I believe). 

Thank you for your assistance on these matters.
 
--- Bob Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 9/17/05, Milscvaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 [...]
  However, there is room for improvement. One of the
  major issues I have is with the out of date binary
  packages available for the latest stable release
  (5.4). 
 
 The packages distributed with the release are
 current at the time of
 the release.  The package build system maintains
 up-to-date packages
 for most of the ports, so you can update to newer
 packages if you
 wish.
 
  Yes, I know that there are much more up to data
  packages in Ports, I know many people just love
  spending hours of time compiling and recompiling
 ports
  over and over agian every time they want a new
 version
  of software X, but many of us have better ways to
  spend our time and computer resources. Many of us
 do
  not have fast enough computers to make this
 possible
  (it would take a week). Please, please, please
 offer
  up to date packages compiled from the latest
 version
  of its port for the latest stable release of
 FreeBSD.
 
 Your terminology is  confusing packages and ports. 
 Packages are
 pre-compiled binaries, while ports are (usually but
 not always) source
 distributions that are compiled on your system.  For
 most ports, you
 can install the corresponding package rather than
 the port if that's
 what you wish to do.  There are several methods of
 doing so, the most
 basic method is to use the pkg_add command.  See

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html
 for more details and for instructions.  When you get
 to the page about
 installing a package (4.4.1) note the comment about
 the PACKAGESITE
 variable: if you install a FreeBSD RELEASE, then by
 default
 PACKAGESITE is set to install the packages that were
 built at the time
 of the RELEASE.  If you want more recent packages,
 you either need to
 update your RELEASE version of FreeBSD to a
 corresponding (more
 recent) STABLE version, or you need to change the
 PACKAGESITE variable
 to fetch the STABLE packages rather than the RELEASE
 packages.  It is
 done this way so that packages installed in a
 RELEASE will be
 reasonably sure to work properly.  When you install
 newer packages
 into an older system, sometimes the older libraries
 on the system
 don't work correctly with the newer package (or
 other things don't
 work right).  If you use a tool such as portupgrade
 to manage your
 packages, it can automatically update required
 libraries, etc. so this
 is usually not a problem.  Portupgrade itself is in
 the ports system,
 and can itself be installed as a package if you
 wish.  Another similar
 tool is portmanager.
 
 Also, stable and release should not be used
 together to describe a
 FreeBSD version.  STABLE describes the latest
 version of the
 production FreeBSD system, and is updated pretty
 much continuously.  A
 RELEASE is a snapshot of the STABLE version on a
 particular date. 
 The RELEASE version gets extra testing and is
 distributed as a
 complete distribution on CDROMs, ISO images, etc. 
 So the correct
 terminology is to call a version of FreeBSD either
 STABLE or RELEASE,
 but not both (it could also be CURRENT, which
 essentially means it is
 an experimental version).
 
  Perhaps you can set up a system to automatically
  rebuild a binary package from its port when that
  specific port as been upgraded to a new version
 and
  put it up on the FTP sites. This would only
 require a
  particular package to have to be rebuilt when its
 port
  has been updated to a new version. This would save
 a
  lot of people a lot of time. Please.
 
 This is already done.  At one time, new packages
 were built from the
 ports every day.  I think that the number of ports
 has gotten so great
 that new 

What do these warning messages mean (READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error)?

2005-09-18 Thread bob self


I rearanged my hard drives / dvd burner and am now seeing these 
messages. The system SEEMS to run ok though.


ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267359
ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267359
ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR 
error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=119267359

g_vfs_done():ad0s1f[READ(offset=44958728192, length=45056)]error = 5
vnode_pager_getpages: I/O read error
vm_fault: pager read error, pid 808 (firefox-bin)
ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267359
ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267359
ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267519

thanks,
Bob

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Structuring Starting Order of Programs

2005-09-18 Thread Gerard Seibert
Using FreeBSD 5.4, or any other version I guess, is there any way to set 
the start order of programs in the '/usr/local/etc/rc.d' directory?


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Re: Setting up routes correctly for FBSD box to access WAN

2005-09-18 Thread Kelly D. Grills
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:24:36AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:

 So my question is, how do I properly set the value for gateway  
 for the FBSD machine or use the route command to create a static  
 route for all IP values not 192.168.1.0/20?

You need set the default router in /etc/rc.conf :

defaultrouter=NO  # Set to default gateway (or NO).

See rc.conf(5)

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Re: Structuring Starting Order of Programs

2005-09-18 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Gerard Seibert wrote:

Using FreeBSD 5.4, or any other version I guess, is there any way to 
set the start order of programs in the '/usr/local/etc/rc.d' directory?


The scripts are run in lexical order, so use the standard number 
prefix scheme 100. 200. (see for example /etc/periodic/daily).


At some point in the future, the /usr/local/etc/rc.d scripts will 
support the same rcorder conifguration options as /etc/rc.d.  See man rc 
and rcorder, and freebsd-rc archives for more info.


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Re: Setting up routes correctly for FBSD box to access WAN

2005-09-18 Thread Garrett Cooper

On Sep 18, 2005, at 3:14 PM, Kelly D. Grills wrote:


On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:24:36AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:



So my question is, how do I properly set the value for gateway
for the FBSD machine or use the route command to create a static
route for all IP values not 192.168.1.0/20?



You need set the default router in /etc/rc.conf :

defaultrouter=NO  # Set to default gateway (or NO).

See rc.conf(5)

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Excellent, that's just what I needed. Thanks!
-Garrett
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Re: Konfabulator widget knockoffs?

2005-09-18 Thread rod person
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 15:41:02 -0400
Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Crazy question here maybe, but I'm pretty fascinated by the
 Konfabulator and MacOS X widgets that are becoming more and more
 popular.  Very cool little clients.  The what to do widget is just
 great, and there's tons of other excellent widgets, like the weather
 and search utilities.
 
 I've looked at the ports directory, and can't find anything that looks
 like these little gadgets.  Does anyone have any idea if such a thing
 is available for FreeBSD/Linux?
 
 Lou

SuperKaramba it's in the ports. It's something from KDE project. I
pretty sure Konfabulator was borrowed from this...


-- 
Rod

http://www.opensourcebeef.net
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FreeBSD 5.4 NTFS Mount Bug?

2005-09-18 Thread John Do
Hi guys

I mounted an NTFS drive and in one directory I noticed
about 50% of the NTFS directories that existed were
being shown.

Does anyone know if this is an actual bug or is there
a work around for it?

In Linux I have never seen an issue like this with
mounting NTFS (not to bash but just to confirm it is
possible to properly view this drive in a non-windows
OS)

Thanks for your suggestions

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Skipping/Stuttering Sound in XMMS

2005-09-18 Thread John Do
Does anyone know why the sound skips and often
stutters in XMMS?

I don't seem to have this problem in other random
media players in FreeBSD.

I'm also wondering why it won't show MIDI support even
though it is detected for PCM sound.  I have an old
Soundblaster Live Card

Thanks for your help guys

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Re: ct Re: NMAP probing of network ports

2005-09-18 Thread Boris Karloff
Chris wrote:

 On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Boris Karloff wrote:

 Ain't you 'sposed to be dead?!

That's Bela Lugosi...

--Alex


Actually, so is Boris ---

My e-mail provider is upgrading the mail server, and
apparently someone either mistyped my name when moving my
account, or one of the employees there is making a joke. I
get that a lot.

I'm working with my e-mail provider now trying to get this
fixed. For some reason, they seem to be a little busy at the
moment -- upgrading an e-mail service isn't simple; and this
has a low priority with them.

I'm actually pleased someone noticed. Thanks guys.

Harold Karloff.

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Re: FreeBSD 5.4 NTFS Mount Bug?

2005-09-18 Thread Garrett Cooper

On Sep 18, 2005, at 5:12 PM, John Do wrote:


Hi guys

I mounted an NTFS drive and in one directory I noticed
about 50% of the NTFS directories that existed were
being shown.

Does anyone know if this is an actual bug or is there
a work around for it?

In Linux I have never seen an issue like this with
mounting NTFS (not to bash but just to confirm it is
possible to properly view this drive in a non-windows
OS)

Thanks for your suggestions


Were the directories names non-NLS based (ie Eastern Asian  
fonts, scripts)? Also, what is the directory information like (ie  
read, write, execute)?

-Garrett
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Re: Skipping/Stuttering Sound in XMMS

2005-09-18 Thread Garrett Cooper


On Sep 18, 2005, at 5:18 PM, John Do wrote:


Does anyone know why the sound skips and often
stutters in XMMS?

I don't seem to have this problem in other random
media players in FreeBSD.

I'm also wondering why it won't show MIDI support even
though it is detected for PCM sound.  I have an old
Soundblaster Live Card

Thanks for your help guys


Are you playing MP3s and if so, are you using the MAD vs MP123  
plugin? I forget which caused a problem in Linux, but I think if you  
use the libMAD it shouldn't stutter (or maybe it was vice versa).

-Garrett
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Re: FreeBSD 5.4 NTFS Mount Bug?

2005-09-18 Thread John Do
Hi Garrett

Thanks for your help again :)

All the directories are in the same style/format and
all standard English 

Since this is NTFS I don't think permissions are in
effect here are they?  For the NTFS user it is read,
write execute though.


--- Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sep 18, 2005, at 5:12 PM, John Do wrote:
 
  Hi guys
 
  I mounted an NTFS drive and in one directory I
 noticed
  about 50% of the NTFS directories that existed
 were
  being shown.
 
  Does anyone know if this is an actual bug or is
 there
  a work around for it?
 
  In Linux I have never seen an issue like this with
  mounting NTFS (not to bash but just to confirm it
 is
  possible to properly view this drive in a
 non-windows
  OS)
 
  Thanks for your suggestions
 
  Were the directories names non-NLS based (ie
 Eastern Asian  
 fonts, scripts)? Also, what is the directory
 information like (ie  
 read, write, execute)?
 -Garrett
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Re: Skipping/Stuttering Sound in XMMS

2005-09-18 Thread John Do
The plugin makes sense.I think it is the MP123
plugin that I'm using and the other players that don't
skip must be using some other plugin

I'll try to install and use libMAD like you recommend

Thanks
--- Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Sep 18, 2005, at 5:18 PM, John Do wrote:
 
  Does anyone know why the sound skips and often
  stutters in XMMS?
 
  I don't seem to have this problem in other random
  media players in FreeBSD.
 
  I'm also wondering why it won't show MIDI support
 even
  though it is detected for PCM sound.  I have an
 old
  Soundblaster Live Card
 
  Thanks for your help guys
 
  Are you playing MP3s and if so, are you using
 the MAD vs MP123  
 plugin? I forget which caused a problem in Linux,
 but I think if you  
 use the libMAD it shouldn't stutter (or maybe it was
 vice versa).
 -Garrett
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Re: gmake/make dependency problem

2005-09-18 Thread Harlan Stenn
Here's what I am seeing:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] gmake -n ntpd-opts.c
gmake: `../../ntpd/ntpd-opts.c' is up to date.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] make -n ntpd-opts.c
cd ../../ntpd  autogen ntpd-opts.def
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Segmentation fault when building kdelibs

2005-09-18 Thread Pat Maddox
I'm trying to upgrade my system, and the build of kdelibs always fails
because of some segmentation fault.  I have absolutely no idea what
all this means, so I'll try to post as much of the error as I can
determine is relevant.  Hopefully somebody can help me out.

In file included from kjanuswidget.cpp:24:
/usr/X11R6/include/qheader.h:207: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See URL:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html for instructions.
gmake[3]: *** [kjanuswidget.lo] Error 1
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.4.2/kdeui'
gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.4.2/kdeui'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.4.2'
gmake: *** [all] Error 2
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
/tmp/portupgrade31298.0 make
** Fix the problem and try again.
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
! x11/kdelibs3 (kdelibs-3.4.0_1)(segmentation fault)
---  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed
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Re: Install GRUB for FreeBSD

2005-09-18 Thread Micah



jonas wrote:

AFAIK grub has problems with reading ufs (please correct me if i'm
wrong! maybe it's just because my grub version is a bit old ;) ).
you can get around this by putting the grub config on a partition grub
can read (like ext2fs or fat32) and then just chainload the freebsd
loader installed into the freebsd partition. of course this is not the
best solution but it works for me :)

greets,
jonas


I use grub installed on a ufs filesystem and it has absolutely no 
problems reading config files, stages, or splash screens from it.


Later,
Micah
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Re: gmake/make dependency problem

2005-09-18 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-09-19 00:45, Harlan Stenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's what I am seeing:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] gmake -n ntpd-opts.c
 gmake: `../../ntpd/ntpd-opts.c' is up to date.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] make -n ntpd-opts.c
 cd ../../ntpd  autogen ntpd-opts.def
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hmmm, without seeing the makefile, it seems that some of the targets
ends up depending on nothing at all, which re-builds it every time
make runs.

I'd have to see at least the makefiles to be sure though :-(

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Re: Install GRUB for FreeBSD

2005-09-18 Thread Micah



Gary W. Swearingen wrote:

It starts out on a floppy file system.  Then you either
just boot off the floppy, or you install it to the hard disk MBR,
other first-track sectors, and maybe your OS's root FS.  I don't
recall if you need a menu.lst or not.  That is, I don't know if
Grub can be installed only to the first track, or needs the
menu.lst in an FS; it seems like a bad requirement, if so.



In order for grub to work as a menu, it requires a stage 2 loader that 
resides somewhere on your hardrive outside of the MBR.  It's my 
understanding that grub was too big to fit just in the MBR and that 
necessitated this arrangement.  If you don't mind manually typing in 
commands such as root(hdx,x,x) and kernel /boot/loader then you don't 
need grub installed anywhere other than the MBR.  Though the ufs stage 
1.5 might cause problems with freebsd in that regard. I haven't tried 
grub without /some/ aspect of it installed to a freebsd partition.


Later,
Micah
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Re: Changing Console Video Modes

2005-09-18 Thread Micah



Harout S. Hedeshian wrote:

Users,

This is my first time on this list so I hope I am posting in the
right place. I have been a Linux user for some time and I am trying out
FreeBSD as some people recommended it. In my previous Mandrake (now
Mandriva) Linux system, I could pass a kernel parameter in the LILO
configuration file to set the console video mode (like vga=xxx). I ran it
at 1024x768 and sometimes 1280x1024 (depending on the computer) to allow
more text on the console. I am trying to do the same for my FreeBSD system.
A quick Google search brought up this tutorial:
http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/. But, I'm not sure it does what I
want. It takes parameters in terms of character-cell dimensions and not
pixel dimensions. My question is, how do you tell the kernel to use 1024x768
as the video mode without having to deal with fonts? Is there an easy way to
do it, or am I crazy to even ask?

 


Oh, and one more thing, in Linux, the console is colorful. For example, if
you type ls, directories are blue, executables are green, symlinks are
teal etc. Is there a way to make the console (or at least ls) colorful in
FreeBSD?

 


Thanks,

Harout Hedeshian


Not sure about video modes (I usually use a Konsole or xterm), but for 
color make sure setenv  CLICOLOR1 is in your .cshrc.  I don't know 
if this works in other shells, but you could try an equivalent line in 
an equivalent file for your particular shell.


Later,
Micah

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Re: gmake/make dependency problem

2005-09-18 Thread Harlan Stenn
I could try and post fragments, but I'd probably mess it up.

The full tarball is at:

 http://ntp.isc.org/~stenn/ntp-4.2.0b.tar.gz

and I to duplicate the problem I recommend:

 % tar xzf ...
 % cd ntp-4.2.0b
 % mkdir A.foo
 % cd A.foo
 % ../configure
 % make

and it will soon die in ntpd/, at which point:

 % cd ntpd
 % make -n ntpd-opts.c

should show it trying to run autogen to produce ../../ntpd/ntpd-opts.c
(which exists and should have proper timestamps with respect to its
dependencies), and:

 % gmake ntpd-opts.c

should say the target is up-to-date.

If you want me to try and help debug this another way I would be happy
to do so.

Thanks a bunch...

H
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Sendmail genericstable help, please

2005-09-18 Thread stan
I;m trying to set up a 4.11 STABLE machine to act as the mailhost
for a buch of virtual doamins. I'm planning on having users on
the machien for each user/doaimn pair. I've got the incoming 
side of this working well with the Sendmail that came with 4.11
(Not the ports version if it matters). I've done this with
/etc/mail/virtusertable and appropruate configuration in the.mc file.

Now, I;m trying to get the outbound side of it workig, and I'm
not having much luck. 

I've crate /etc/mail/genericstable and it looks like this:

stan[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'v also created /etc/mail/generics-domains it looks like this:

i-v-o.net

I've added the following to both ops2.ivo.net.mc and ops2.ivo.net.submit.mc

MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`ops2.i-v-o.net')
FEATURE(`genericstable', `hash -o /etc/mail/genericstable')
GENERICS_DOMAIN_FILE(`/etc/mail/generics-domains')
FEATURE(`allmasquerade')
FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')
FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain')


I've dome a make ; make install ; make restart sequence in /etc/mail, and
I've set up muut to use a From of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yet still the message
(sent from the machine to the machine) contains:

From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep 18 15:44:49 2005
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from ops2.ivo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by ops2.ivo.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j8IJijnE070566
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 15:44:45 -0400 (EDT)
(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])

ops2.ivo.net is the machines real name.

Can anyone see anything I'm doing wrong, this is driving me nuts :-(


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Re: gmake/make dependency problem

2005-09-18 Thread Harlan Stenn
This may help:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] make -ndm ntpd-opts.c
Examining ntpd-opts.def...modified 04:01:00 Aug 30, 2005...up-to-date.
Examining ntpdbase-opts.def...modified 03:57:02 Aug 26, 2005...up-to-date.
Examining ntpd-opts.c...non-existent...modified before source...out-of-date.
cd ../../ntpd  autogen ntpd-opts.def
update time: 23:06:28 Sep 18, 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

At least several of those are not true...

H
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RE: Changing Console Video Modes

2005-09-18 Thread Harout S. Hedeshian
 Users,
 
 This is my first time on this list so I hope I am posting in
the
 right place. I have been a Linux user for some time and I am trying out
 FreeBSD as some people recommended it. In my previous Mandrake (now
 Mandriva) Linux system, I could pass a kernel parameter in the LILO
 configuration file to set the console video mode (like vga=xxx). I ran
it
 at 1024x768 and sometimes 1280x1024 (depending on the computer) to allow
 more text on the console. I am trying to do the same for my FreeBSD
system.
 A quick Google search brought up this tutorial:
 http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/. But, I'm not sure it does what
I
 want. It takes parameters in terms of character-cell dimensions and not
 pixel dimensions. My question is, how do you tell the kernel to use
1024x768
 as the video mode without having to deal with fonts? Is there an easy way
to
 do it, or am I crazy to even ask?
 
  
 
 Oh, and one more thing, in Linux, the console is colorful. For example,
if
 you type ls, directories are blue, executables are green, symlinks are
 teal etc. Is there a way to make the console (or at least ls) colorful in
 FreeBSD?
 
  
 
 Thanks,
 
 Harout Hedeshian

Not sure about video modes (I usually use a Konsole or xterm), but for 
color make sure setenv  CLICOLOR1 is in your .cshrc.  I don't know 
if this works in other shells, but you could try an equivalent line in 
an equivalent file for your particular shell.

[Harout S. Hedeshian] 
Thanks, I added setenv  CLICOLOR1 to /etc/csh.cshrc file and it works
perfectly. Does anyone know about the video resolution? 



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Re: Install GRUB for FreeBSD

2005-09-18 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
Micah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In order for grub to work as a menu, it requires a stage 2 loader
 that resides somewhere on your hardrive outside of the MBR.  It's my
 understanding that grub was too big to fit just in the MBR and that
 necessitated this arrangement.  If you don't mind manually typing in

Yeah, but I definitely remember that Grub installs stuff on other
sectors of the first track, probably staring with the second sector.
So it should be able to store the menu stuff there too, but I don't
know if it actual can (I also had it using the menu file in
/boot/boot/grub, I think it was for some odd reason).
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Intranet/Internet Gateway - Intranet requests to Internet ip time out

2005-09-18 Thread Thomas Dimson
Hi,

I've posted here about getting a gateway working and everyone was a
great help. There is just one thing left to fix before everything
works 100%.

I have my routes set up as thus: any requests to 127.97.0.0 is routed
through network card #2, (127.97.245.108)  within my university
network for high speeds. Any other traffic is routed through network
card #1 (192.168.1.110) to 192.168.1.1, which is a router with a cable
modem attached. Everything works beautifully - my original problem was
that natd wasn't enabled on my university network IP.

Here is my problem: whenever a person on the internal network tries to
connect to my web server (or anything else) on my public IP, the
request times out. I type in www.presidenturkel.com (my domain name)
on any computer in my university and it appears like it exists, but
does not return any signals. If I manually type in the ip
127.97.245.108, it works perfectly. My guess is that the computer is
not expecting a request to return through the university network.

My question is: is there anyway to make any requests from the internal
network to my public ip work? It is going to be irritating if I make
people memorize two domain names based on whether they are inside or
not.

I realize this is complicated, so here is my netstat -r output:
netstat -r
Routing tables

Internet:
DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs  Use  Netif Expire
default192.168.1.1UGS 0   128500vr0
localhost  localhost  UH  0  208lo0
129.97 cn-rtrev-res15net. UGS 0 2490vr1
129.97.245/24  link#2 UC  00vr1
cn-rtrev-res15net. 00:04:9b:1e:20:00  UHLW20vr1443
rn-revwca12.uwater 00:0b:db:e4:20:48  UHLW1  560vr1   1134
rn-revwca14.uwater 00:0a:e6:88:ac:a2  UHLW1  448vr1941
rn-revwca22.uwater 00:14:38:10:c5:4a  UHLW1  332vr1   1041
rn-revwca23.uwater 00:11:09:70:2b:f5  UHLW1  308vr1   1003
rn-revwcb03.uwater 00:0f:b0:73:5c:a7  UHLW1  320vr1   1150
rn-revwcb13.uwater 00:13:d4:88:c1:30  UHLW1  152vr1589
rn-revwcb14.uwater 00:11:d8:73:3a:c1  UHLW1  228vr1   1086
rn-revwcb15.uwater 00:11:2f:5c:32:8d  UHLW1   24vr1   1147
rn-revwcb18.uwater 00:0a:e4:d6:08:0e  UHLW1   74vr1
rn-revwcb19.uwater 00:50:ba:82:fc:24  UHLW1   74vr1981
rn-revwcb20.uwater 00:0a:e6:55:4b:19  UHLW1  306vr1991
rn-revwcb23.uwater 00:40:f4:68:0a:8f  UHLW1  332vr1   1068
rn-revwda02.uwater 00:0a:e4:d0:27:2c  UHLW1  104vr1602
rn-revwda15.uwater 00:07:95:31:51:26  UHLW1   98vr1   1066
rn-revwda23.uwater 00:0f:b0:8c:2b:28  UHLW1  126vr1   1068
rn-revwda24.uwater 00:c0:9f:b0:95:56  UHLW1   34vr1   1068
rn-revwdb02.uwater 00:11:25:47:bf:7a  UHLW1  132vr1774
rn-revwdb03.uwater 00:a0:d1:20:0f:ba  UHLW1  224vr1   1068
rn-revwdb04.uwater 00:11:25:d6:ff:0b  UHLW1  308vr1983
rn-revwdb07.uwater 00:12:3f:e2:5d:c5  UHLW1  306vr1   1173
rn-revwdb09.uwater 00:10:dc:ff:94:f2  UHLW132424vr1   1102
rn-revwdb12.uwater 00:0f:b0:83:a0:d4  UHLW1   50vr1692
rn-revwdb22.uwater 00:13:20:2a:80:3e  UHLW1  100vr1   1089
rn-revwea07.uwater 00:0f:b0:8c:54:6f  UHLW1  150vr1968
rn-revwea09.uwater 00:12:3f:db:c9:3f  UHLW1  144vr1   1055
rn-revwea13.uwater 00:0d:87:9d:18:af  UHLW1  330vr1907
rn-revwea15.uwater 00:13:d4:36:49:c0  UHLW1  126vr1986
rn-revwea17.uwater 00:0d:56:ad:32:93  UHLW1  124vr1   1068
rn-revwea19.uwater 00:14:51:15:1c:fe  UHLW1   66vr1364
rn-revwea21.uwater 00:c0:9f:c1:2f:61  UHLW1  258vr1   1177
rn-revweb01.uwater 00:0a:e4:37:0b:2b  UHLW1   26vr1   1079
rn-revweb03.uwater 00:01:4a:5f:46:08  UHLW1   46vr1774
rn-revweb07.uwater 00:0a:e6:a3:d2:3c  UHLW1  332vr1   1078
rn-revweb09.uwater 00:12:3f:e2:1d:bb  UHLW1   96vr1   1198
rn-revweb17.uwater 00:02:3f:7d:52:f0  UHLW1   50vr1   1077
rn-revweb23.uwater 00:11:09:b7:a0:f6  UHLW1   12vr1   1055
129.97.245.255 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff  UHLWb   1 5552vr1
192.168.1  link#1 UC  00vr0
192.168.1.100:20:78:ce:cb:b4  UHLW2 5017vr0   1161
192.168.1.107  00:11:95:5d:0b:7f  UHLW140152vr0   1157
192.168.1.255  ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff  UHLWb   1  117vr0

I am not entirely sure why there are so many things in the middle
there, I don't know what they are and they never used to show up...

And my ifconfig output:
vr0: 

Re: Skipping/Stuttering Sound in XMMS

2005-09-18 Thread John Do
Does anyone know how to load and configure another MP3
player instead of lib123.so in XMMS?

I have libmad and others installed but I have no other
options for MP3 playing other than lib123

I still can't figure out how to enable MIDI sounds for
my soundcard 


--- John Do [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The plugin makes sense.I think it is the MP123
 plugin that I'm using and the other players that
 don't
 skip must be using some other plugin
 
 I'll try to install and use libMAD like you
 recommend
 
 Thanks
 --- Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  
  On Sep 18, 2005, at 5:18 PM, John Do wrote:
  
   Does anyone know why the sound skips and often
   stutters in XMMS?
  
   I don't seem to have this problem in other
 random
   media players in FreeBSD.
  
   I'm also wondering why it won't show MIDI
 support
  even
   though it is detected for PCM sound.  I have an
  old
   Soundblaster Live Card
  
   Thanks for your help guys
  
   Are you playing MP3s and if so, are you using
  the MAD vs MP123  
  plugin? I forget which caused a problem in Linux,
  but I think if you  
  use the libMAD it shouldn't stutter (or maybe it
 was
  vice versa).
  -Garrett
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Re: mounting UFS under Linux

2005-09-18 Thread Shantanoo Mahajan
+++ Eugene M. Minkovskii [freebsd] [18-09-05 22:08 +0400]:
| Hello, please tell me, how can I (if I can) mount UFS2 partition
| under Linux (I install gentoo Linux 2005.1).

IIRC, 2.6 kernel supports mounting of UFS. Was able to do so with
Knoppix livecd with 2.6. Don't know what to do in case of 2.4 though.
Don't remember the exact thing righht now, but you can find details in
manual page of man. Look for ufs and ufstype (44bsd).

Regards,
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Re: mounting UFS under Linux

2005-09-18 Thread pete wright
On 9/18/05, Eugene M. Minkovskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello, please tell me, how can I (if I can) mount UFS2 partition
 under Linux (I install gentoo Linux 2005.1).



I'd start by asking a Linux mailing list, I guess gentoo as that is the OS 
you need support for.
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Re: mounting UFS under Linux

2005-09-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 10:08:11PM +0400, Eugene M. Minkovskii wrote:
 Hello, please tell me, how can I (if I can) mount UFS2 partition
 under Linux (I install gentoo Linux 2005.1).

Ask your Linux support question on a Linux support list ;-)

Kris


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