Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...
On 12/8/05, Olivier Nicole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a = number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to o= ne another using Samba.=20 Advantage of Amanda, if I understand well, is that you don't need to install anything on your Windows machines. I have been using Amanda to backup various Unixes and Windows for years now and it is very satisfactory. I even wrote some web interface so that Windows user could add some shares to back-up, without any sys admin help. OK that bit has not been tested with XP... Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This information is very important, but you only say windows, but i like to know wich one...? All...? Because i want to try bacula+mysql-5 to backup 1 win2k3, 2 WinNT4 and 1 Linux box. I try once bacula on freebsd 5.4-p8 with bacula using some simple tape drive and backup the win2k3 box and it works, but my doubt is winNT4+Linux, you have some winNT4+Linux on your list with bacula or amanda...? Greetings!!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Error Can't load kernel on install boot-up
Kent Stewart wrote: On Friday 09 December 2005 10:47 am, Rene Brehmer wrote: Hi gang, I'm new here. I tried searching the archives, and although I found a post with the same subjec, I didn't find any answers. Also posted this in comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc. I downloaded the latest i386 ISOs from the freebsd.org FTP, and burned them onto CD-RWs (I used RWs cuz I want to be sure they work before burning them permanently) using Nero 6 on WinXP Pro (10x disk-at-once). I always use Nero 6 on XP to burn my CDs. They always burn at 42x. They always work. So, Nero isn't a problem. Hrm. Reading these two paragraphs together causes a wee flicker of consternation in my thought process; but, it could be because it's real late here. I want to be sure they work before burning them permanently seems to me to indicate what, IIRC, is UDF Packet Writing software, and I wouldn't be at all surprised is that was a contributing factor here; however, IANAE. The interesting thing is that the bootloader seems to load. Perhaps the SCSI card is at issue? Does sysinstall prefer da0 to ad0? Kevin Kinsey -- WARNING TO ALL PERSONNEL: Firings will continue until morale improves. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
5.4 vs. 6.0
Hi! Can someone tell me in plain words what will I gain if I upgrade my server from 5.4 to 6.0? -- Sasa Stupar ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4 vs. 6.0
Sasa Stupar wrote: Hi! Can someone tell me in plain words what will I gain if I upgrade my server from 5.4 to 6.0? Better sleep during nights. ;-) N. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4 vs. 6.0
On 10 Dec Nicklas B. Westerlund wrote: Sasa Stupar wrote: Can someone tell me in plain words what will I gain if I upgrade my server from 5.4 to 6.0? Better sleep during nights. ;-) 6.x is the future :) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 +++ The Power to Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4 vs. 6.0
From: dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10 Dec Nicklas B. Westerlund wrote: Sasa Stupar wrote: Can someone tell me in plain words what will I gain if I upgrade my server from 5.4 to 6.0? Better sleep during nights. ;-) 6.x is the future :) I realize this is neither the L-word OS or the W-word OS. But the general industry trend is that newer versions are less reliable and stable. Are there some REAL advantages of which he should be aware or is it all puff and vapor? {^_-} {o.o} ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Flash no longer displayed in Firefox
Hi, I recently upgraded my ports collection with portmanager. In the process, Firefox has been upgraded to 1.5_3,1. The problem is that Flash media is no longer displayed in Firefox (plugin is reported as missing). I have linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 and linuxpluginwrapper-20051113 installed and the linux emulator is active. I assumed the libmap.conf file could be outdated, so I did a : cp /usr/local/share/examples/linupluginwrapper/libmap.conf-FreeBSD5-stable /etc/libmap.conf Still no luck. For all it's worth, QuickTime and Windows Media content still play fine on Firefox via Mplayer. In case this may be useful : # uname -a FreeBSD .Domain 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Sun Oct 30 15:12:21 CET 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EDWARD i386 # cat /etc/libmap.conf # /etc/libmap.conf for FreeBSD 5-stable(5.3-BETA7 and later) and # 6-current(6.0 to 6.0-BETA2) # $Id: libmap.conf-FreeBSD5-stable,v 1.22 2005/11/13 01:46:14 nork Exp $ ### # Flash6 with Opera is not available. # Flash6 with Konqueror # SEE ALSO: http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/konqueror-flash.php # This configuration was integrated to following one. # Flash6 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase [/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-flashplugin6/libflashplayer.so] libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/flash6.so libdl.so.2 pluginwrapper/flash6.so libz.so.1 libz.so.2 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3libstdc++.so.4 libm.so.6 libm.so.3 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/flash6.so ### # Acrobat with Opera is not available. # Acrobat5 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase #[/usr/local/Acrobat5/Browsers/intellinux/nppdf.so] #libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/acrobat.so # Acrobat7 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase [/usr/compat/linux/usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so] libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/acrobat.so # Japanese Acrobat7 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase [/usr/local/Acrobat7/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so] libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/acrobat.so ### # Helix RealPlayer with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase [/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-mozilla/plugins/nphelix.so] libstdc++.so.5 libstdc++.so.4 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/realplayer.so ### # Java3D # NOTE: THESE ARE SAMPLES. PLEASE SEE ALSO INSTALL MESSAGES # OF java/java3d PORT. [/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/libJ3D.so] libdl.so.2 pluginwrapper/java3d.so libm.so.6 libm.so.3 libnsl.so.1 pluginwrapper/java3d.so libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/java3d.so libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/java3d.so [/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/libj3daudio.so] libm.so.6 libm.so.3 libnsl.so.1 pluginwrapper/java3d_snd.so libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/java3d_snd.so libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/java3d_snd.so [/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/libJ3DUtils.so] libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/java3d.so libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/java3d.so ### # Java Advanced Imaging (JAI) API # NOTE: THIS IS A SAMPLE. PLEASE SEE ALSO INSTALL MESSAGES # OF java/jai PORT. [/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/libmlib_jai/libmlib_jai.so] libm.so.6 libm.so.3 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/jai.so ### # JAI Image I/O Tools # NOTE: THIS IS A SAMPLE. PLEASE SEE ALSO INSTALL MESSAGES # OF java/jai-imageio PORT. [/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/libclib_jiio.so] libm.so.6 libm.so.3 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/jai.so ### # Photo Image Print System (for EPSON bubble jet printers driver) #[/usr/local/lib/pips/] #libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/pips.so #libdl.so.2 pluginwrapper/pips.so # firefox Gtk-Qt theme engine warning: Could not open /proc/6705/cmdline This may cause problems for the GNOME window manager Any clue what could be missing ? Thanks, Edward ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: BSD vs Linux Threads
-Original Message- From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 5:20 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Cody Holland; Kris Kennaway; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSD vs Linux Threads MySQL has identified that there are some serious issues with FreeBSD at the moment. As somebody with a foot in both camps, I'm keeping an open mind about where the problem is, but certainly the threading libraries are an issue. I wish I could make a specific recommendation. Postgres? Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4 vs. 6.0
jdow wrote: From: dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10 Dec Nicklas B. Westerlund wrote: Sasa Stupar wrote: Can someone tell me in plain words what will I gain if I upgrade my server from 5.4 to 6.0? Better sleep during nights. ;-) 6.x is the future :) I realize this is neither the L-word OS or the W-word OS. But the general industry trend is that newer versions are less reliable and stable. Are there some REAL advantages of which he should be aware or is it all puff and vapor? {^_-} FreeBSD 6.0 is no less stable than 5.4. It's also quite a lot faster. If anyone is installing a new machine, the choice is a no-brainer: 6.0. If you're upgrading, then you'll have to balance the time and effort needed and the downtime for your servers against the benefits you can gain. 6.0 generally looks pretty good in that comparison. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4 vs. 6.0
--On 10. december 2005 10:37 +0100 Nicklas B. Westerlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sasa Stupar wrote: Hi! Can someone tell me in plain words what will I gain if I upgrade my server from 5.4 to 6.0? Better sleep during nights. ;-) N. I allready sleep good with 5.4 :) -- Sasa Stupar ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD 6 and Mysql
Hi, Is the problem with mysql freebsd threads still remaining ? Regards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6 and Mysql
mohammad babaei schrieb: Is the problem with mysql freebsd threads still remaining ? Which problem? Björn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4 vs. 6.0
On Saturday, December 10, 2005 4:09:29 AM, Sasa Stupar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 5.4 vs. 6.0 Wrote these words of wisdom: Hi! Can someone tell me in plain words what will I gain if I upgrade my server from 5.4 to 6.0? -- Sasa Stupar * REPLY SEPARATOR * On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied: This is only my personal opinion, but from what I have been reading on this forum regarding problems with 6.0, a great deal of which can obviously be construed as the result of learning a new technology, I feel it is best to wait until 6.1 is released. I am sure that there are several minor but never-the-less significant problems that will have been addressed in that release. -- Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life is to short to dance with ugly women. Anonymous ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: openoffice-2 openssl-beta-0.9.8a
On Friday 09 December 2005 15:36, Benjamin Thelen wrote: On Friday 09 December 2005 12:15, Benjamin Thelen wrote: You FreeBSD guys, This is a kind of reposting, I got no response to this question (Why? Is there something wrong how I write my my question(s)?), whether list (archives) nor google told me something _really_ helpful - just stupid work arounds -sorry. I suppose there are many of you using the OpenOffice-2.0 package from http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ which requires openssl-beta-0.9.8a to be installed (I don't understand why). Installing openssl-beta from ports at first doesn't hurt. But at the stage of portupgrading next time it starts to be a pain, so I end up removing openoffice-2 and openssl-beta _before_ I do a portupgrade. If I don't remove both ports, any port that requires openssl is built with openssl-beta instead of openssl from the base system. If I add WITH_OPENSSL_BASE=yes, which seemd to be a good solution, net-snmp (required for kdeutils) complains that it cannot build if there is a newer openssl version installed by a port. There we are again, byebye openssl-beta/openoffice, portupgrade, reinstall both. I'm a bit of a loss, no answer, no help by google, but I can't be the only one who faces this problem. How are you dealing with this? Do I overlook something? Thanks, Ben Mike, Thanks for your answer. You allready have the answer, you said it works when you build from ports. If you don't want to always rebuild openoffice when you upgrade ports mark it as ignored in pkgtools.conf. I already did - just because I don't want to compile OOo. Building OOo-2 on a PIII/1,13 isn't very funny. :-). OOo-1.1 was a little nightmare, especially because it took me a while to succeed - you'd surely find on google ;-). Last but not least, I don't have 9 free GBs. Really. :-) I just don't understand why the package I mentioned requires openssl, because I can't see any dependency on openssl, neither for building nor for running. A third way would be to use the ports openssl-beta as systems default? Ben -Mike Your better off leaving openssl set to the one in base and building from source anything that depends on openssl. The problem with packages is you are at the mercy of how someone else built them. Mike, Yes, but this case is a little strange, isn't it? Nobody else is wondering, there actually is no dependency on openssl, using the ports openssl, even a beta may be a litte uncommon (?) and I think this URL I mentioned is the main source for getting OOo as a package. Despite the problem I face, thanks to Nakata Maho at this point for his work. I also don't see where the openssl dependency is comming from and have to take your word for it the package of open office you tried had one. Short and clear ;-): [EMAIL PROTECTED] pkg_add /data/software/freebsd/OOo_2.0m143_FreeBSD60Intel_install_de.tbz pkg_add: could not find package openssl-beta-0.9.8a ! If your installed open office was built by you and works I highly recommend you back it up, something like pkg_create -b /var/db/pkg/openoffice.org-2.0.0_1 and save the resulting openoffice.org-2.0.0_1.tgz somewhere safe. Now if in the future yoy want to upgrade it again from source and it doesn't work you always have a known good copy to fall back on. That sounds interesting. I never used pkg_create. Thanks for your hint, I'll have a look at this and look for a fast compiling machine :-)! Thanks for your response! Best, Ben -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: openoffice-2 openssl-beta-0.9.8a
Hi Benjamin, I had the same problem. The solution to this problem for me was the portupgrade -o option to replace openssl-beta with openssl-stable and update all the dependencies. Have a look in the portupgrade man page. There is an example how to use this option. For me it looked something like 'portupgrade -o security/openssl-stable openssl-beta' to get rid of the beta dep. Actually I don't know at what point openssl is important to openoffice and if this might lead to some issues. However, I didn't have any problems so far. Greetings, Mike Benjamin Thelen wrote: You FreeBSD guys, This is a kind of reposting, I got no response to this question (Why? Is there something wrong how I write my my question(s)?), whether list (archives) nor google told me something _really_ helpful - just stupid work arounds -sorry. I suppose there are many of you using the OpenOffice-2.0 package from http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ which requires openssl-beta-0.9.8a to be installed (I don't understand why). Installing openssl-beta from ports at first doesn't hurt. But at the stage of portupgrading next time it starts to be a pain, so I end up removing openoffice-2 and openssl-beta _before_ I do a portupgrade. If I don't remove both ports, any port that requires openssl is built with openssl-beta instead of openssl from the base system. If I add WITH_OPENSSL_BASE=yes, which seemd to be a good solution, net-snmp (required for kdeutils) complains that it cannot build if there is a newer openssl version installed by a port. There we are again, byebye openssl-beta/openoffice, portupgrade, reinstall both. I'm a bit of a loss, no answer, no help by google, but I can't be the only one who faces this problem. How are you dealing with this? Do I overlook something? Thanks, Ben ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD vs Linux Threads
On 12/9/05, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [resequenced] On Friday, 2 December 2005 at 22:27:51 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: On Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:36 PM, Cody Holland wrote: Well in the past it was stated that on a MySQL server installed using Linux threads was faster than using the native BSD threads. I'm in the process of building a new MySQL 5 server with FreeBSD 5.4 and was wanting to know if using the Linux threads was still faster. It probably is because mysql is optimized for the Linux threading implementation. Also keep in mind that freebsd filesystems are mounted async by default, not sync by default like Linux, as a result FreeBSD always does worse in these stupid bakeoffs you read about in the trade rags. Somebody else has pointed out that this was stated the wrong way round. But what we've seen so far is probably not related to the way the file systems are mounted. You can install the linux threading package under FreeBSD's linux emulation and try it that way. I don't think this is a useful option. Linuxthreads might be, though. Keep in mind also that you are talking minute performance differences on the newest multi-gigahertz systems. It would be nice if this were true. We've seen claims of performance differences in the order of 3:1. Furthermore I will point out that unless your database is smaller than physical memory of the server, then the argument between mysql threading and non-threading is a completely moot issue since the hits to the disk will be the bottleneck. Many database systems are CPU-bound. Well yes they are, normally due to poor or zero tuning of the queries etctuning RDBMS's is a science in itself andcan be quite specific tothe RDBMS in question MySQL has identified that there are some serious issues with FreeBSD at the moment. As somebody with a foot in both camps, I'm keeping an open mind about where the problem is, but certainly the threading libraries are an issue. I wish I could make a specific recommendation. COuld well be that the mysql is optimised for lunix threading. Given it also run on Solaris etc I wonder it performs on the tradition commericial Unix variants? -- martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pptp for net install
I am trying to do a net install of 6.0 over DSL, for which I need pptp. Could somebody tell me if 'base' install is enough to install/compile/run pptp and is all I need is to compile pptp from sources. Iavor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash no longer displayed in Firefox
On Saturday 10 December 2005 01:44 am, edward wrote: Hi, I recently upgraded my ports collection with portmanager. In the process, Firefox has been upgraded to 1.5_3,1. The problem is that Flash media is no longer displayed in Firefox (plugin is reported as missing). I have linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 and linuxpluginwrapper-20051113 installed and the linux emulator is active. I assumed the libmap.conf file could be outdated, so I did a : cp /usr/local/share/examples/linupluginwrapper/libmap.conf-FreeBSD5-stable /etc/libmap.conf Still no luck. For all it's worth, QuickTime and Windows Media content still play fine on Firefox via Mplayer. In case this may be useful : # uname -a FreeBSD .Domain 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Sun Oct 30 15:12:21 CET 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EDWARD i386 # cat /etc/libmap.conf # /etc/libmap.conf for FreeBSD 5-stable(5.3-BETA7 and later) and # 6-current(6.0 to 6.0-BETA2) # $Id: libmap.conf-FreeBSD5-stable,v 1.22 2005/11/13 01:46:14 nork Exp $ ### # Flash6 with Opera is not available. # Flash6 with Konqueror # SEE ALSO: http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/konqueror-flash.php # This configuration was integrated to following one. # Flash6 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase [/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-flashplugin6/libflashplayer.so] libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/flash6.so libdl.so.2 pluginwrapper/flash6.so libz.so.1 libz.so.2 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3libstdc++.so.4 libm.so.6 libm.so.3 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/flash6.so ### # Acrobat with Opera is not available. # Acrobat5 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase #[/usr/local/Acrobat5/Browsers/intellinux/nppdf.so] #libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/acrobat.so # Acrobat7 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase [/usr/compat/linux/usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so] libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/acrobat.so # Japanese Acrobat7 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase [/usr/local/Acrobat7/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so] libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/acrobat.so ### # Helix RealPlayer with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase [/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-mozilla/plugins/nphelix.so] libstdc++.so.5 libstdc++.so.4 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/realplayer.so ### # Java3D # NOTE: THESE ARE SAMPLES. PLEASE SEE ALSO INSTALL MESSAGES # OF java/java3d PORT. [/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/libJ3D.so] libdl.so.2 pluginwrapper/java3d.so libm.so.6 libm.so.3 libnsl.so.1 pluginwrapper/java3d.so libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/java3d.so libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/java3d.so [/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/libj3daudio.so] libm.so.6 libm.so.3 libnsl.so.1 pluginwrapper/java3d_snd.so libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/java3d_snd.so libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/java3d_snd.so [/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/libJ3DUtils.so] libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/java3d.so libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/java3d.so ### # Java Advanced Imaging (JAI) API # NOTE: THIS IS A SAMPLE. PLEASE SEE ALSO INSTALL MESSAGES # OF java/jai PORT. [/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/libmlib_jai/libmlib_jai.so] libm.so.6 libm.so.3 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/jai.so ### # JAI Image I/O Tools # NOTE: THIS IS A SAMPLE. PLEASE SEE ALSO INSTALL MESSAGES # OF java/jai-imageio PORT. [/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/libclib_jiio.so] libm.so.6 libm.so.3 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/jai.so ### # Photo Image Print System (for EPSON bubble jet printers driver) #[/usr/local/lib/pips/] #libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/pips.so #libdl.so.2 pluginwrapper/pips.so # firefox Gtk-Qt theme engine warning: Could not open /proc/6705/cmdline This may cause problems for the GNOME window manager Any clue what could be missing ? Thanks, Edward Linuxpluginwrapper is borked. Here's what you need to do: ## Workaround for broken port linuxpluginwrapper. ## Before building linuxpluginwrapper: rm -R /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins
Re: Projects List page
pete wright wrote: Saw the newly posted list of projects that need volunteers. One project in particular caught my eye: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/#p-pxeinstaller (FreeBSD PXE Install support) I do not see an email contact regarding this, has anyone started working something like this? In the bottom is a list of people associated with a group of projects, so I guess you can write to one of them and ask and/or volunteer. I don't know what exactly they have in mind, they write good PXE knowledge is required, but I see the main task to provide a good UI. I see two things to do: 1) preconfiguring a server 2) configuring the pxe-install 1) is the easy part: You just need the live disk to be preinstalled with isc-dhcpd (or similar) and tftp preconfigured. I guess ftp-install would be the viable method using an external ftp-server, else a native ftp server should be preconfigured and populated with install files. The problem is 2) It's fairly easy to create a memory disk boot image that is fetched with tftp. The problem is that this contains the script file that scripts the installation and that script should be customizeable. The script is a sysinstall script and sysinstall is largely undocumented in this regard. Further sysinstall, AFAIK, is regularly suggested for an overhaul, and it is at least listed for a minor update on the project list. So, in my point of view, the obvious solution would be to work on sysinstall, adding an option save configuration which would generate the script. Then we only need to save it in the memory disk image. I don't know if the listed network people are reading this, or maybe those who are not yet responsible for sysinstall. But I would be interested in working on this... (well, not exactly sysinstall as much as the easy parts :-) Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD5.4 - GUI fails
hello, I will be as brief as i can on explaining my problem: 1.) here is my architecture: i.)AMD64 - processor ii.)ASUS K8V-MX - motherboard iii.)LG 17'' Studioworks 775N - monitor HorizSyns = 30-70 kHz Vertsync = 50-160 Hz Resolution Max. = 1280x1024 @ 60 Hz IV.) i do not know about video-card but when FC-4 istallation uses anaconda to probe the video-card of my system, it shows: vesa driver (generic) 2.) I have FreeBSD-5.4 CDs for x86 architecture. regarding this i posted the question on FreeBSD mailing-list many people told me that these same CDs will work on AMD64 because AMD64 is backward compatible with 32 bit computing. 3.) PROBLEM: I tried to install it on my system and got the following results: i.)FreeBSD is installed (i did all ports/packages installation) but some packages (total 6) could not be installed,it says installation failed, they are: a.) php b.) apache c.) 1 more package related to apache c.) apache-mod+perl d.) bash e.) 1 dependency of bash all of these raise error-code 1. except these 6 everything else like GNOME, KDE, emacs, xpdf, gv is installed without any problem ii.)FreeBSD boots with login prompt: only in shell mode,no GUI at all. ( in freeBSd handbook section 2.9.12 i came to know that X server configuration fascility has been removed since 5.3 release, so i go to chapter 5 to configure X myself) iii.)I configure GUI by using: Xorg -configure. It creates a file named xorg.conf.new in my current directory which is root's home directory. Next if i try to: Xorg -config xorg.conf.new, my screen goes blank with the message OUT OF FREQUENCY with message something like: Frequency: HF 75 Hz ( i do know whether it is Hz, KHz or GHz) VF 60 Hz operating frequency: HF 30-70 Hz (again i do not know) VF 50-160 Hz iv.)What i do is 1st add the lines HorizSyns 30-70, VertRefresh 50-160 (fom monitor-manual) into monitor section Modes 1024x768 into display section of xorg.conf.new then use the same command to configure it. it works and shows a yellowish desktop with 1an X and X moves as i move my cursor. v.) Then i use xdm command to enter into GUI, of course it enters into GUI with prompt box names Welcome to 1 with login name password , i enter both of then then i press enter. screen goes off for a second and reappears with same Welcome 1 box. I enter login name and password again and same thing happens. i press ctrl+Alt+backspace 2 times and go back to shell mode. vi.) i came to know in section 5.7 that GNOME is disabled by default,so i enable it by adding gdm_enable=YES into /etc/rc.conf and then reboot my machine, after that i again use xdm and same thing i explained in previous step, happens. (but FreeBSD Handbook says no further configuration is required, after enabling GNOME, it will work without any problem BUT i do have a problem) vii.) I tried another thing ( to use GNOME directly)as explained in 'chapter 5 of FreeBSD handbook. i create .xsession file rather than .xinitc (as freeBSD uses xdm). I put a line /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session into it. then i enter into shell the following command # % echo #!/bin/sh ~/.xsession after pressing enter it says /bin/sh: event not found. ( i made a check into /bin directory, sh file is present there). anyway i use startx and it takes me to a yellowish desktop with one login shell and 2 xterm shells (all are like bash shell). but no menu, no icons, no GNOME or real desktop thing. i enter commands emacs, ggv, gv etc.) and all of these application open in GUI mode but it is disgusting. also icons of this desktop are too small to be seen. i reboot and the try xdm and same thing Welcome to 1 as in step v happens but no GNOME. May you please help on this? Please tell me whether this is a hardware issue or do i need to do some configuration. thanks in advance. arnuld -- the great intellectuals ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash no longer displayed in Firefox
On Saturday 10 December 2005 04:15, Beecher Rintoul wrote: On Saturday 10 December 2005 01:44 am, edward wrote: Hi, I recently upgraded my ports collection with portmanager. In the process, Firefox has been upgraded to 1.5_3,1. The problem is that Flash media is no longer displayed in Firefox (plugin is reported as missing). I have linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 and linuxpluginwrapper-20051113 installed and the linux emulator is active. I assumed the libmap.conf file could be outdated, so I did a : cp /usr/local/share/examples/linupluginwrapper/libmap.conf-FreeBSD5-stable /etc/libmap.conf Still no luck. For all it's worth, QuickTime and Windows Media content still play fine on Firefox via Mplayer. In case this may be useful : # uname -a FreeBSD .Domain 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Sun Oct 30 15:12:21 CET 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EDWARD i386 # cat /etc/libmap.conf # /etc/libmap.conf for FreeBSD 5-stable(5.3-BETA7 and later) and # 6-current(6.0 to 6.0-BETA2) # $Id: libmap.conf-FreeBSD5-stable,v 1.22 2005/11/13 01:46:14 nork Exp $ ### # Flash6 with Opera is not available. # Flash6 with Konqueror # SEE ALSO: http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/konqueror-flash.php # This configuration was integrated to following one. # Flash6 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase [/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-flashplugin6/libflashplayer.so] libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/flash6.so libdl.so.2 pluginwrapper/flash6.so libz.so.1 libz.so.2 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3libstdc++.so.4 libm.so.6 libm.so.3 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/flash6.so ### # Acrobat with Opera is not available. # Acrobat5 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase #[/usr/local/Acrobat5/Browsers/intellinux/nppdf.so] #libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/acrobat.so # Acrobat7 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase [/usr/compat/linux/usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so ] libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/acrobat.so # Japanese Acrobat7 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase [/usr/local/Acrobat7/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so] libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/acrobat.so ### # Helix RealPlayer with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase [/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-mozilla/plugins/nphelix.so] libstdc++.so.5 libstdc++.so.4 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/realplayer.so ### # Java3D # NOTE: THESE ARE SAMPLES. PLEASE SEE ALSO INSTALL MESSAGES # OF java/java3d PORT. [/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/libJ3D.so] libdl.so.2 pluginwrapper/java3d.so libm.so.6 libm.so.3 libnsl.so.1 pluginwrapper/java3d.so libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/java3d.so libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/java3d.so [/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/libj3daudio.so] libm.so.6 libm.so.3 libnsl.so.1 pluginwrapper/java3d_snd.so libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/java3d_snd.so libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/java3d_snd.so [/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/libJ3DUtils.so] libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/java3d.so libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/java3d.so ### # Java Advanced Imaging (JAI) API # NOTE: THIS IS A SAMPLE. PLEASE SEE ALSO INSTALL MESSAGES # OF java/jai PORT. [/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/libmlib_jai/libmlib_jai.so] libm.so.6 libm.so.3 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/jai.so ### # JAI Image I/O Tools # NOTE: THIS IS A SAMPLE. PLEASE SEE ALSO INSTALL MESSAGES # OF java/jai-imageio PORT. [/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/libclib_jiio.so] libm.so.6 libm.so.3 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/jai.so ### # Photo Image Print System (for EPSON bubble jet printers driver) #[/usr/local/lib/pips/] #libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/pips.so #libdl.so.2 pluginwrapper/pips.so # firefox Gtk-Qt theme engine warning: Could not open /proc/6705/cmdline This may cause problems for the GNOME window manager Any clue what could be missing ? Thanks, Edward Linuxpluginwrapper is borked. Here's what you need to do: ## Workaround for broken
Freebsd Theme Song
We are promoting a new punk rock band the is being developed as I write this email. We are looking for ways to get the bands name knowing to more. As far as I know Freebsd doesn't have a theme song? If intrested you could listen to some live recordings of the band at http://www.skudpuppetz.com/audio.php Chance ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
devd.conf question
i have such : # $FreeBSD: src/etc/devd.conf,v 1.26.2.1 2005/09/03 22:49:22 sam Exp $ # # Refer to devd.conf(5) and devd(8) man pages for the details on how to # run and configure devd. # # NB: All regular expressions have an implicit ^$ around them. # NB: device-name is shorthand for 'match device-name' options { # Each directory directive adds a directory the list of directories # that we scan for files. Files are read-in in the order that they # are returned from readdir(3). The rule-sets are combined to # create a DFA that's used to match events to actions. directory /etc/devd; directory /usr/local/etc/devd; pid-file /var/run/devd.pid; # Setup some shorthand for regex that we use later in the file. #XXX Yes, these are gross -- imp set scsi-controller-regex (aac|adv|adw|aha|ahb|ahc|ahd|aic|amd|amr|asr|bt|ciss|ct|dpt|\ esp|ida|iir|ips|isp|mlx|mly|mpt|ncr|ncv|nsp|stg|sym|trm|wds)\ [0-9]+; }; attach 0 { device-name da[0-9]+; action /usr/sbin/chown root:umass $device-name;chmod 660 $device-name; }; after inserting USB DataTraveller this action isn't performed and i still needs to be root to access it. what's wrong? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: devd.conf question
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 04:01:03PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: snip attach 0 { device-name da[0-9]+; action /usr/sbin/chown root:umass $device-name;chmod 660 $device-name; }; after inserting USB DataTraveller this action isn't performed and i still needs to be root to access it. Such things are better handled in /etc/devfs.rules. Put the following ruleset in /etc/devfs.rules: [localrules=10] add path 'da*s*' mode 0660 group usb And activate the ruleset in /etc/rc.conf devfs_system_ruleset=localrules Of course, you can choose any ruleset label instead of localrules. Roland -- R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt pgpXBOE3c7gHl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Flash no longer displayed in Firefox
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 06:36:28 -0800 Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good information! To automate this with portmanager you can add the following two lines to pm-020.conf: #below must be on one line STOP|/www/linuxpluginwrapper rm STOP|-R /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins| YEAH, the information is good, except for the symlinked browser_plugins. You should not do this. That is, when I'd done this this week, mozilla wouldn't start anymore. Error 76 on X. It stook me quite some time to find out that the symlinked plugins dir was to blame. I removed the browser_linux_plugins and mozilla worked again. All plugins just are in browser_plugins. Having a REAL browser_linux_plugin dir does not harm the system. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 ++ The Power to Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
root wrote: We are promoting a new punk rock band the is being developed as I write this email. We are looking for ways to get the bands name knowing to more. As far as I know Freebsd doesn't have a theme song? If intrested you could listen to some live recordings of the band at http://www.skudpuppetz.com/audio.php Chance Great ... Now we'll have a set of songs like the ones OpenBSD has. Then, the list will become Theo-ized, users will then begin to be flamed and dissed for the sake of tweaking a few egos, the list will become non-useful, FreeBSD developers will cease to produce, the OS will falter, Gates will buy out FreeBSD and incorporate his dream of OpenWindows, The Ozone layer will widen, allowing the aliens to snatch away all the idiots and lame-assed users, causing the unemployment rate throughout the world to drop, hunger will cease, wars will stop, and mankind will move to the Star Trek society, and the nay-sayers will call it glorified communism, then the world will end the next day... There ... Are you happy now? Is this what you really want to do?! -- Best regards, Chris Never be first to do anything. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
resolve appends domain section of hostname to non-existent domains
Hi all, Could anyone let me know what's misconfigured here: When I ping from say server2 # ping jkhdsfkhdsafhjsahfdhksa.com I get the following reply : PING jkhdsfkhdsafhjsahfdhksa.com.mydomain2.com (ip.of.server.1): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from ip.of.server.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.594 ms 64 bytes from ip.of.server.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.427 ms The same happens from server1; it appends it's domain name to the incorrect domain # ping jkhdsfkhdsafhjsahfdhksa.com PING jkhdsfkhdsafhjsahfdhksa.com.mydomain1.com (ip.of.server.1): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from ip.of.server.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.594 ms 64 bytes from ip.of.server.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.427 ms Server2 is running multiple jails behind ipf/ipnat on 5.4-Release. Server1 is not running jails or ipf/nat. on 5.2.1-Current Server1 responds on both systems, which are in the same subnet at the same colo. A dig from both systems does reply correctly, stating that jkhdsfkhdsafhjsahfdhksa.com does not exist. Which leads me to feel that it would most probably be hosts file related. As the hosts file on both systems are not doing anything weird i.e.: Server2: ip.natted.lan server2 server2.mydomain2.com server2.mydomain2.com. Server1: ip.static.wan server1 server1.mydomain1.com server2.mydomain2.com. Although, as dns has already taken place (on existing domains it does resolve correctly), it would seem that something is happening after hosts-dns- (not using nis). So I'm pretty much at a loss here. Any help is very much appriciated. Regards, Ruben ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
I vote for Look what they've done to my song, Ma - a commentary on the destruction of the (formally) world's best operating system. --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: root wrote: We are promoting a new punk rock band the is being developed as I write this email. We are looking for ways to get the bands name knowing to more. As far as I know Freebsd doesn't have a theme song? If intrested you could listen to some live recordings of the band at http://www.skudpuppetz.com/audio.php Chance Great ... Now we'll have a set of songs like the ones OpenBSD has. Then, the list will become Theo-ized, users will then begin to be flamed and dissed for the sake of tweaking a few egos, the list will become non-useful, FreeBSD developers will cease to produce, the OS will falter, Gates will buy out FreeBSD and incorporate his dream of OpenWindows, The Ozone layer will widen, allowing the aliens to snatch away all the idiots and lame-assed users, causing the unemployment rate throughout the world to drop, hunger will cease, wars will stop, and mankind will move to the Star Trek society, and the nay-sayers will call it glorified communism, then the world will end the next day... There ... Are you happy now? Is this what you really want to do?! -- Best regards, Chris Never be first to do anything. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4 vs. 6.0
--- Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jdow wrote: From: dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10 Dec Nicklas B. Westerlund wrote: Sasa Stupar wrote: Can someone tell me in plain words what will I gain if I upgrade my server from 5.4 to 6.0? Comparing 5.4 and 6.0 is like taking 2 hideously ugly girls and asking which one is uglier. Until they get it right, its simply a moot issue. DT __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64bit
--- RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 06 December 2005 05:33, K P wrote: hello, i just got AMD Athlon 64bit but i want to know that FreeBSD for AMD64 port will work at 64bit mode or it is 32bit and just will work in 64bit arch? i386 works in 32-bit mode, AMD64 works in 64 bit mode. If it's going to be a desktop, be aware that some important ports don't work on the latter. I've yet to see any real evidence that 64-bit mode has any advantage at all, and I've seen lots of evidence that its a lot slower than 32-bit mode. It may be one of those things like putting 32 tires on your car; It might seem like a good idea on paper but in practice it falls on its face. I suspect that that larger data structures reduce the usefulness of the caches and the negatives end out signficantly outweighing the positives. Unless you just need to do some 64bit multiplication of course. DT __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash no longer displayed in Firefox
On Saturday 10 December 2005 08:10, dick hoogendijk wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 06:36:28 -0800 Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good information! To automate this with portmanager you can add the following two lines to pm-020.conf: #below must be on one line STOP|/www/linuxpluginwrapper rm -R /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins| #second line www/linuxpluginwrapper|WITH_PLUGINS=1| YEAH, the information is good, except for the symlinked browser_plugins. You should not do this. That is, when I'd done this this week, mozilla wouldn't start anymore. Error 76 on X. It stook me quite some time to find out that the symlinked plugins dir was to blame. I removed the browser_linux_plugins and mozilla worked again. All plugins just are in browser_plugins. Having a REAL browser_linux_plugin dir does not harm the system. The symlinks are working for me but I agree it is a bad idea. Would be much better if the www/linuxpluginwrapper put things where they belong that way they will be properly cleaned up when the port is deinstalled. My point though, was if things have to be manually fixed up before or after installing a port there is a way to automate that so on the next upgrade hopefully things will keep working. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A stupid 64bit question ... but ...
--- Parv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Guillaume R. thusly... 2005/12/5, David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 06:50:55PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: I didn't realize that the newer Xeon's were 64bit ... now, I've just built perl 5.8.7, and its reporting: # perl -v This is perl, v5.8.7 built for i386-freebsd-64int ... Perl won't be reporting a 64-bit capable machine, when running a 32-bit OS. Look in /var/run/dmesg for 'AMD Features' to report 'LM' (long mode). So why there is a 64int? We can suppose that perl has seen that Marc's proc is a 64 one no? I asked that cause I got a 64bits (amd) which run on a 32 bits mode and I got oftenly such i386-freebsd-64amd By chance any of you built the Perl w/ USE_64_BIT_INT option? See perl -V. 64 bit integers are a data type and have zippo to do with 64bit mode operations. Of course a 64bit processor can handle a 64bit integer in one operation whereas its more complicated on a 32bit CPU, but the entire point of a compiler or interpretor is to make such things transparent to the user. All the message means is that PERL is compiled to recognize the data type. DT __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PAE kernel build error
Can't build PAE kernel. make buildkernel KERNCONF=PAE generate error: I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm -I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -ffreestanding -Werror /usr/src/sys/dev/fdc/fdc_pccard.c cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm -I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -ffreestanding -Werror /usr/src/sys/dev/hptmv/entry.c /usr/src/sys/dev/hptmv/entry.c: In function `fOsBuildSgl': /usr/src/sys/dev/hptmv/entry.c:2476: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size /usr/src/sys/dev/hptmv/entry.c: In function `hpt_io_dmamap_callback': /usr/src/sys/dev/hptmv/entry.c:2606: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size /usr/src/sys/dev/hptmv/entry.c: In function `OsSendCommand': /usr/src/sys/dev/hptmv/entry.c:2758: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PAE. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCI-E 1x network adapter
--- Ian Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:17 2005-12-09, Jiri Mikulas wrote: Hello I'm looking for PCI-Express 1x network adapter for FBSD-6 I found adpaters only for PCI-X in documentation, on google I didn't find much more :(... Is there any PCI-E adapter supported ? Could you recommend me any adapter, plase ? Thanks for reply. Jiri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We use Intel's dual ports gigabit adapters in dell's servers with freebsd 6 without any problem. They are supported by the em driver Note that 1x PCI-E isn't fast enough to fully support gigabit speeds. Its about equivalent to running on a 32bit bus performance-wise. You need 4x to get full gig performance. In other words, if your MB has a PCI-X bus also, use it instead. Danial __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
Danial Thom wrote: I vote for Look what they've done to my song, Ma - a commentary on the destruction of the (formally) world's best operating system. So far I'm finding 6.x a heck of a lot better than 5.x. The mousewheel just works, a lot more of the ports just work, sound works ... you still have to fiddle with /boot/loader.conf to get the sound to go, which is completely braindead, but I'm sure it'll be up to the standard of Linux distros 2001. I would suggest a song about Pokemon sex toys. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:09:38 + David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danial Thom wrote: I vote for Look what they've done to my song, Ma - a commentary on the destruction of the (formally) world's best operating system. I would go for an alteration of Ballad of a Thin Man. Maybe Mr. Jones could be Mr. Gates. Rob. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- http://home.comcast.net/~europa100 A SETI-like Search for Intelligent Life in Central Pa. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
I was referring to 4.x vs 5.x+ of course --- David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danial Thom wrote: I vote for Look what they've done to my song, Ma - a commentary on the destruction of the (formally) world's best operating system. So far I'm finding 6.x a heck of a lot better than 5.x. The mousewheel just works, a lot more of the ports just work, sound works ... you still have to fiddle with /boot/loader.conf to get the sound to go, which is completely braindead, but I'm sure it'll be up to the standard of Linux distros 2001. I would suggest a song about Pokemon sex toys. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
On Saturday, December 10, 2005 11:17:07 AM Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song Wrote these words of wisdom: root wrote: We are promoting a new punk rock band the is being developed as I write this email. We are looking for ways to get the bands name knowing to more. As far as I know Freebsd doesn't have a theme song? If intrested you could listen to some live recordings of the band at http://www.skudpuppetz.com/audio.php Chance Great ... Now we'll have a set of songs like the ones OpenBSD has. Then, the list will become Theo-ized, users will then begin to be flamed and dissed for the sake of tweaking a few egos, the list will become non-useful, FreeBSD developers will cease to produce, the OS will falter, Gates will buy out FreeBSD and incorporate his dream of OpenWindows, The Ozone layer will widen, allowing the aliens to snatch away all the idiots and lame-assed users, causing the unemployment rate throughout the world to drop, hunger will cease, wars will stop, and mankind will move to the Star Trek society, and the nay-sayers will call it glorified communism, then the world will end the next day... There ... Are you happy now? Is this what you really want to do?! -- Best regards, Chris Never be first to do anything. * REPLY SEPARATOR * On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied: Just wonderful. Next, someone will want a FreeBSD flower. Actually though, your comment on Gates and OpenWindows is rather funny. -- When authorities warn you of the sinfulness of sex, there is an important lesson to be learned. Do not have sex with the authorities. Matt Groening ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
Danial Thom wrote: --- David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danial Thom wrote: I vote for Look what they've done to my song, Ma - a commentary on the destruction of the (formally) world's best operating system. So far I'm finding 6.x a heck of a lot better than 5.x. The mousewheel just works, a lot more of the ports just work, sound works ... you still have to fiddle with /boot/loader.conf to get the sound to go, which is completely braindead, but I'm sure it'll be up to the standard of Linux distros 2001. I was referring to 4.x vs 5.x+ of course Ah, of course! I agree. But 6.x is sucking a lot less than 5.x for me. Haven't tried the linux-compat yet. I would suggest a song about Pokemon sex toys. I still think we need this. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
partion and fs advice...
I've just recieved a new laptop and need (yes actually need) to run both winxp and freebsd. I've got software on both systems and need to be able to access data on one of the other. I have a 100GB hard drive with XP installed onthe first 20 GB and my question is this: What file systems can I choose from to be able to create a partition I can read/write from both FreeBSD and WinXP. It's been too long since I've tried to have my cake and eat it too and I'm not sure if there are drivers out there for reading extfs from win32 and vice-versa. I need to have a common (hopefully *NOT* a DOS partition) place for data (databases, scripts, etc.) and would like to have two partions for the OSes so something like, 20GB - windows xp 20GB - freebsd 60GB - data/scripts/etc (would be the D drive for winxp and the /usr/home for freebsd) The laptop has 2gb ram (not sure if that's important) and a real niec lcd screen and more ports than i've ever seen on a machine (sager 3880) I'll need lots of space for compiling ports (GRASS, postgis, R, etc.) and really, REALLY, *REALLY* don't want to use cygwin anymore. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jeff. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ifconfig can't remove aliases
hello, i have a problem with ifconfig: it refuses to delete an ipv6 alias for an incomprehensible reason. here's what i'm doing : $ uname -a FreeBSD homer.cload.net 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #4: Sun Nov 27 19:01:40 CET 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HOMER i386 $ ifconfig dc0 dc0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 options=8VLAN_MTU inet6 fe80::248:54ff:fe12:76fb%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet6 2001:7a8:b138::1 prefixlen 64 inet 192.168.2.253 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 inet6 2001:7a8:b138:caca:caca:caca:caca:1 prefixlen 64 inet6 2001:7a8:b138::caca:1 prefixlen 48 ether 00:48:54:12:76:fb media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active $ sudo ifconfig dc0 inet6 -alias 2001:7a8:b138::1 ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCDIFADDR): Can't assign requested address other ipv6 addresses can't be removed too. is it a bug ? what can cause this error ? -- Matthieu Michaud - EPITA 2007 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Projects List page
On 12/10/05, Erik Nørgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pete wright wrote: Saw the newly posted list of projects that need volunteers. One project in particular caught my eye: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/#p-pxeinstaller (FreeBSD PXE Install support) I do not see an email contact regarding this, has anyone started working something like this? In the bottom is a list of people associated with a group of projects, so I guess you can write to one of them and ask and/or volunteer. saw that, but did not see an obvious contact, unless this is related to rel. NGin anyevent I guess I'll just keep working on what I use on my cluster and keep an eye open for any traffic -p -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Help mounting my CD rewritable drive and floppy drive in KDE desktop
Lowell Gilbert wrote: Enrique Nieves Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tried mounting my CD rewritable disk from the KDE desktop by right-clicking and following the path - create new - link to device - CD writer device. When I successfully place the CD Writer icon on the desktop and tried to mount, I got the following error message: Could not mount device The reported error was: mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0 input/output error I get the same thing when attempting to mount my floppy drive. Note: I'm trying to read CDs with jpegs copied from a Windows XP box. Can you do it from the command line? Do you get the same errors? Are the devices present? I was able to mount the cd rom on the KDE desktop, and it work. It only needed to point to the /dev/acd0 in the Device tap of the icon. However, I can't do this with the floppy. I can't find where the mount point is on the Device tab. Also, I can't mount he floppy from the command line. When I use % mount /dev/fd0 /floppy, I get /floppy: no such directory. I tried the same command with /media instead of /floppy since that's where the hard drive and cd rom are, but I get the same message. I can't seem to find the floppy device anywhere. I appreciate your help with this. Enrique I'm using the KDE environment in a PCBSD distro of FreeBSD. The hard drive and the cdrom seem to be present in the /media directory. There's an fd folder with three files 0, 1, and 2 on the /dev directory, but these seem to be empty. Also there's an fd0 file in the /dev, but it's also empty. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help mounting my CD rewritable drive and floppy drive in KDE desktop
Enrique Nieves Jr. wrote: Lowell Gilbert wrote: Enrique Nieves Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tried mounting my CD rewritable disk from the KDE desktop by right-clicking and following the path - create new - link to device - CD writer device. When I successfully place the CD Writer icon on the desktop and tried to mount, I got the following error message: Could not mount device The reported error was: mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0 input/output error I get the same thing when attempting to mount my floppy drive. Note: I'm trying to read CDs with jpegs copied from a Windows XP box. Can you do it from the command line? Do you get the same errors? Are the devices present? I was able to mount the cd rom on the KDE desktop, and it work. It only needed to point to the /dev/acd0 in the Device tap of the icon. However, I can't do this with the floppy. I can't find where the mount point is on the Device tab. Also, I can't mount he floppy from the command line. When I use % mount /dev/fd0 /floppy, I get /floppy: no such directory. I tried the same command with /media instead of /floppy since that's where the hard drive and cd rom are, but I get the same message. I can't seem to find the floppy device anywhere. I appreciate your help with this. Enrique I'm using the KDE environment in a PCBSD distro of FreeBSD. The hard drive and the cdrom seem to be present in the /media directory. There's an fd folder with three files 0, 1, and 2 on the /dev directory, but these seem to be empty. Also there's an fd0 file in the /dev, but it's also empty. From a console and as root: cd / mkdir floppy -- Best regards, Chris Unless you intend to kill him immediately; never kick a man in the balls, not even symbolically or perhaps especially not symbolically. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Copying kernel and OS
Hi Thank's. Is there an easy way to install ports on slow machine using nfs after portupgrade on fast machine? For one port I guess you could do a nfs mount of faster machine ports after doing make on ithe port and just do install on slower machine? Thank's Damon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Copying kernel and OS
On 12/10/05, Damon Blom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank's. Is there an easy way to install ports on slow machine using nfs after portupgrade on fast machine? For one port I guess you could do a nfs mount of faster machine ports after doing make on ithe port and just do install on slower machine? Check out pkg_create. You could use that to create packacges from installed ports on the fast maschine, and then installing those packages on the slower machine(s). Using some creative scripting, this could be done pretty transparently. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4 vs. 6.0
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 10:09:29AM +0100, Sasa Stupar wrote: Hi! Can someone tell me in plain words what will I gain if I upgrade my server from 5.4 to 6.0? An improvement in filesystem performance of up to an order of magnitude, depending on your hardware. Kris pgppxeWPbP2oP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 06:00:42PM +, David Gerard wrote: Danial Thom wrote: --- David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danial Thom wrote: I vote for Look what they've done to my song, Ma - a commentary on the destruction of the (formally) world's best operating system. So far I'm finding 6.x a heck of a lot better than 5.x. The mousewheel just works, a lot more of the ports just work, sound works ... you still have to fiddle with /boot/loader.conf to get the sound to go, which is completely braindead, but I'm sure it'll be up to the standard of Linux distros 2001. I was referring to 4.x vs 5.x+ of course Ah, of course! I agree. The thing you have to remember about Denial is that the ONLY THING he cares about in an OS is how fast it can route network packets. The major improvements in other areas of FreeBSD are of absolutely no interest to him, therefore the whole thing is a waste of time. But anyway, FreeBSD 6.0 is hugely superior to 5.4 and 4.11 in filesystem performance. I have been measuring this carefully for the past couple of months and hope to have the paper out soon. Kris pgpRaSC8jdiQE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
Kris Kennaway wrote: The thing you have to remember about Denial is that the ONLY THING he cares about in an OS is how fast it can route network packets. The major improvements in other areas of FreeBSD are of absolutely no interest to him, therefore the whole thing is a waste of time. Huh. But I found 5.x vastly annoying in all sorts of little ways when 4.x seemed to Just Work. I realise this is entirely subjective, but it was noticeable. But anyway, FreeBSD 6.0 is hugely superior to 5.4 and 4.11 in filesystem performance. I have been measuring this carefully for the past couple of months and hope to have the paper out soon. And wifi? Considering mine's the household server and I want to make it all wifi to get rid of the damn cat5 everywhere, I really should get to it ;-) - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 09:02:40PM +, David Gerard wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: The thing you have to remember about Denial is that the ONLY THING he cares about in an OS is how fast it can route network packets. The major improvements in other areas of FreeBSD are of absolutely no interest to him, therefore the whole thing is a waste of time. Huh. But I found 5.x vastly annoying in all sorts of little ways when 4.x seemed to Just Work. I realise this is entirely subjective, but it was noticeable. Fair enough. I notice that you don't troll about it, so that's fine :) But anyway, FreeBSD 6.0 is hugely superior to 5.4 and 4.11 in filesystem performance. I have been measuring this carefully for the past couple of months and hope to have the paper out soon. And wifi? Considering mine's the household server and I want to make it all wifi to get rid of the damn cat5 everywhere, I really should get to it ;-) I don't use this, but 6.0 is probably the way to go there too since there were architectural improvements that could not be merged back to 5.x. Kris pgpZe1TBpNsCc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
--- Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 06:00:42PM +, David Gerard wrote: Danial Thom wrote: --- David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danial Thom wrote: I vote for Look what they've done to my song, Ma - a commentary on the destruction of the (formally) world's best operating system. So far I'm finding 6.x a heck of a lot better than 5.x. The mousewheel just works, a lot more of the ports just work, sound works ... you still have to fiddle with /boot/loader.conf to get the sound to go, which is completely braindead, but I'm sure it'll be up to the standard of Linux distros 2001. I was referring to 4.x vs 5.x+ of course Ah, of course! I agree. The thing you have to remember about Denial is that the ONLY THING he cares about in an OS is how fast it can route network packets. The major improvements in other areas of FreeBSD are of absolutely no interest to him, therefore the whole thing is a waste of time. But anyway, FreeBSD 6.0 is hugely superior to 5.4 and 4.11 in filesystem performance. I have been measuring this carefully for the past couple of months and hope to have the paper out soon. Kris Well thats just hogwash Kris. Pure bridging performance is a measure of the efficiency of the kernel to do rote tasks like respond to interrupts, and the latencies in performing those tasks. Its the best way, IMO, to exercise and measure the efficiency of an isolated kernel. It requires no userland activity, so your results aren't muddled by millions of system calls. Its a way to compare apples to apples, which is how good testing is done. As long as you don't have your filesystem on a network, you're in good shape. But thats not even the point. The point is that the purpose of tearing apart 4.x was to go MP, and MP performance is dismill across the board. I would expect some things to be a lot better with the 3 years of work, but the goal of having an efficient MP O/S is as far away as it was with 5.1. DT __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 01:14:18PM -0800, Danial Thom wrote: Well thats just hogwash Kris. Pure bridging performance is a measure of the efficiency of the kernel to do rote tasks like respond to interrupts, and the latencies in performing those tasks. Its the best way, IMO, to exercise and measure the efficiency of an isolated kernel. It requires no userland activity, so your results aren't muddled by millions of system calls. Its a way to compare apples to apples, which is how good testing is done. As long as you don't have your filesystem on a network, you're in good shape. But thats not even the point. The point is that the purpose of tearing apart 4.x was to go MP, and MP performance is dismill across the board. This statement is simply false. It's actually quite funny to read. For the readers at home: Denial is once again taking his narrow view of the world (everything about the OS is accurately measured by how fast the kernel routes network packets!) and extrapolating it to infinity, then jumping up and down about it. Kris pgpDOmNEmEJGG.pgp Description: PGP signature
CardBus panics
I have an IBM T22 thinkpad running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8. I have the CardBus devices in the current kernel. When I insert a CardBus device, A Xircom RealPort CardBus Ethernet I get a kernel panic like so; Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: cbb alloc res fail Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: cardbus1: Can't get memory for IO ports Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: dc0: Xircom X3201 10/100BaseTX port 0-0x7f mem \ 0x8800-0x880007ff,0x88000800-0x88000fff at device 0.0 on cardbus1 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: cbb alloc res fail Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: dc0: couldn't map ports/memory Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: fault virtual address = 0x30 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: fault code= supervisor write, pag\ e not present Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc07b01f2 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: stack pointer = 0x10:0xd5428c10 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: frame pointer = 0x10:0xd5428c14 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfff\ ff, type 0x1b Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IO\ PL = 0 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: current process = 38 (cbb1) Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: trap number = 12 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: panic: page fault Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Uptime: 35s Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined. Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on t\ he console to abort Any ideas How I can fix this? The suggested sysctl, hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range, does not seem to exist in the kernel. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 5.4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Micro$oft free world | Berkeley, Ca. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6 and Mysql
On Saturday, 10 December 2005 at 12:16:10 +0100, Bjrn Knig wrote: mohammad babaei schrieb: Is the problem with mysql freebsd threads still remaining ? Which problem? There have been some performance issues with MySQL on newer versions of FreeBSD. A very few people have also documented stability problems. It's only a guess that either is related with threads. Many more people are using MySQL and FreeBSD 6 with no problems. If you have problems of this nature, please let me know, offline if you prefer. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpyLhHj7vDRC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Error Can't load kernel on install boot-up
At 01:18 10/12/2005, Kevin Kinsey wrote: Kent Stewart wrote: On Friday 09 December 2005 10:47 am, Rene Brehmer wrote: Hi gang, I'm new here. I tried searching the archives, and although I found a post with the same subjec, I didn't find any answers. Also posted this in comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc. I downloaded the latest i386 ISOs from the freebsd.org FTP, and burned them onto CD-RWs (I used RWs cuz I want to be sure they work before burning them permanently) using Nero 6 on WinXP Pro (10x disk-at-once). I always use Nero 6 on XP to burn my CDs. They always burn at 42x. They always work. So, Nero isn't a problem. Hrm. Reading these two paragraphs together causes a wee flicker of consternation in my thought process; but, it could be because it's real late here. I want to be sure they work before burning them permanently seems to me to indicate what, IIRC, is UDF Packet Writing software, and I wouldn't be at all surprised is that was a contributing factor here; however, IANAE. I don't use UDF or Packet Writing ... keep them permanently turned off as I never use them and they're more problems than they're worth. I burn on CD-RWs, but with closed sessions, to test if the images work. I don't wanna waste CD-Rs on broken images. Normally I've never had any problems using CD-RWs for bootdisks, this is the first time. The interesting thing is that the bootloader seems to load. Yeah, the bootloader loads, then seems to try and load the kernel, and then fails. But it doesn't do it with a bunch of corrupted characters like a lot of other reports. Rene -- Rene Brehmer aka Metalbunny We have nothing to fear from free speech and free information on the Internet but pop-up advertising! http://metalbunny.net/ References, tools, and other useful stuff... Check out the new Metalbunny forums at http://forums.metalbunny.net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash no longer displayed in Firefox
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 05:10:21PM +0100, dick hoogendijk wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 06:36:28 -0800 Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good information! To automate this with portmanager you can add the following two lines to pm-020.conf: #below must be on one line STOP|/www/linuxpluginwrapper rm STOP|-R /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins| YEAH, the information is good, except for the symlinked browser_plugins. You should not do this. That is, when I'd done this this week, mozilla wouldn't start anymore. Error 76 on X. It stook me quite some time to find out that the symlinked plugins dir was to blame. I removed the browser_linux_plugins and mozilla worked again. All plugins just are in browser_plugins. Having a REAL browser_linux_plugin dir does not harm the system. Ya know, I'm almost to the point where I'd pay real money to be able to play real, windows, and mp? files ((audioo)) with mozilla andor firefox. It's hopeless. Even on my ubuntu testbox, the config messes up. When realplayer can play dog/doze media, they get 5 gold stars. (*sigh*) gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Removing a port without upsetting dependencies
Hi, I have mplayer installed and at one stage I installed the mplayer-skins port as well. Then I got sick of dealing with the skins port being broken a lot because the source files are often unfetchable, so I removed the port (I can't remember what method I used to do that now). Ever since, when I do a portupgrade mplayer or various ports that it is a dependency of get updated, my ports database gets upset because those ports are marked as having mplayer-skins as a stale dependency. For example, today I have: Stale dependency: mplayerplug-in-3.17 -- mplayer-skins-1.1.2_1 -- manually run 'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force. I generally either delete the dependency or link it to mplayer-gtk-esound, but the dependency comes back next time mplayerplug-in gets updated. I assume I've just used the wrong method for deleting the mplayer-skins port I need to re-install delete it the correct way. If I'm right, how should I do that? If not, is there a way I can permanently remove the mplayer-skins port and not have it appear as a dependency of other ports? Cheers, -- Ian gpg key: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~imoore/no-spam.asc pgpbRysYmUBDh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ad_attach panic 6.0-RELEASE AMD64
On Friday 02 December 2005 08:08 pm, Anish Mistry wrote: I'm getting the following panic after I install 6.0-RELEASE. This doesn't occur if I install 5.4-STABLE-SNAP009. Fatal trap 18: integer divide fault while in kernel mode instruction pointer = 0x8:0x801a447f stack pointer = 0x10:0x80674ae0 frame pointer = 0x10:0x80674be0 code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 0 (swapper) [thread pid 0 tid 0 ] Stopped at ad_attach+0x3ef:divq%rsi,%eax db bt Tracing pid 0 tid 0 td 0x805845e0 ad_attach() at ad_attach+0x3ef device_attach() at device_attach+0x292 bus_generic_attach() at bus_generic_attach+0x18 ata_identify() at ata_identify+0xe6 ata_boot_attach() at ata_boot_attach+0x50 run_interrupt_driven_config_hooks() at run_interrupt_driven_config_hooks+0x2a mi_startup() at mi_startup+0xc9 btext() at btext+0x2c http://am-productions.biz/docs/kev-amd64-pciconf.txt.gz http://am-productions.biz/docs/kev-acpidump.txt.gz http://am-productions.biz/docs/kev-dmesg.txt.gz I worked around the problem by removing in device ataraid from my kernel for 6.0. The ataraid is disabled in the bios, but I guess something is buggy with the disabling. -- Anish Mistry pgpIzZKB1N6Jk.pgp Description: PGP signature
How to build package without installing it?
What parameter(s) one needs to use to make a package without installing it? I have some ports I installed on one machine and want to make packages to install in others. The default make package tries to install. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash no longer displayed in Firefox
On Saturday 10 December 2005 07:10 am, dick hoogendijk wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 06:36:28 -0800 Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good information! To automate this with portmanager you can add the following two lines to pm-020.conf: #below must be on one line STOP|/www/linuxpluginwrapper rm STOP|-R /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins| YEAH, the information is good, except for the symlinked browser_plugins. You should not do this. That is, when I'd done this this week, mozilla wouldn't start anymore. Error 76 on X. It stook me quite some time to find out that the symlinked plugins dir was to blame. I removed the browser_linux_plugins and mozilla worked again. All plugins just are in browser_plugins. Having a REAL browser_linux_plugin dir does not harm the system. I'm running Firefox and don't have Mozilla on any of my boxes. The idea for the symlink was so plugins would install in the proper directory and save several steps in having to move them. Seems the proper thing would be to just remove the symlink after installing pluginwrapper. In a perfect world that port would just be patched to do the right install (including paths), but that is beyond my programming abilities. Beech -- --- Beech Rintoul - System Administrator - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | NorthWind Communications \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://akparadise.byethost33.com --- pgpC5kNvLMhH4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD on Intel SE7500wv2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can any one install FreeBSD on Intel SE700WV2 with dual Xeon? I was rebuild kernel with options SMP, but after reboot I see one Xeon with 2 ligical CPU (HT). In boot time BIOS say that I have 2xXeon 2.8GHz. What happens when you try FreeBSD 6.0? Help please... I install FreeBSD 6.0 in custom config with src and ports, than I rebuild kernel with options SMP, reboot, but system dont see second CPU. This is a problem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to build package without installing it?
On Saturday 10 December 2005 15:18, Francisco Reyes wrote: What parameter(s) one needs to use to make a package without installing it? I have some ports I installed on one machine and want to make packages to install in others. The default make package tries to install. If the port is allready installed then use pkg_create -b {portname in var/db/pkg} to make a package of it. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
On Dec 10, 2005, at 2:16 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: But anyway, FreeBSD 6.0 is hugely superior to 5.4 and 4.11 in filesystem performance. I have been measuring this carefully for the past couple of months and hope to have the paper out soon. For instance in 5.4 the fastest I could write to my /usr/ partition on a simple default-partitioned UDMA100 drive was 16 MB/sec with a 2.8 GHz P4 while it was capable of reading at over 40 MB/sec. Saw RELENG_6 writing on that partition at over 40 MB/sec recently. Unscientific tests using systat -v and moving big files. A gvinum striped volume on two SATA150 drives routinely produces 70 MB/sec reads and writes. Its nice that FreeBSD is now close to the hardware's performance. One nit is that with such a large sustained access other small accesses are starved. Probably a scheduler issue, and I'm sure the scheduler is being worked on. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash no longer displayed in Firefox
On Saturday 10 December 2005 15:21, Beecher Rintoul wrote: On Saturday 10 December 2005 07:10 am, dick hoogendijk wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 06:36:28 -0800 Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good information! To automate this with portmanager you can add the following two lines to pm-020.conf: #below must be on one line STOP|/www/linuxpluginwrapper rm STOP|-R /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins| YEAH, the information is good, except for the symlinked browser_plugins. You should not do this. That is, when I'd done this this week, mozilla wouldn't start anymore. Error 76 on X. It stook me quite some time to find out that the symlinked plugins dir was to blame. I removed the browser_linux_plugins and mozilla worked again. All plugins just are in browser_plugins. Having a REAL browser_linux_plugin dir does not harm the system. I'm running Firefox and don't have Mozilla on any of my boxes. The idea for the symlink was so plugins would install in the proper directory and save several steps in having to move them. Seems the proper thing would be to just remove the symlink after installing pluginwrapper. In a perfect world that port would just be patched to do the right install (including paths), but that is beyond my programming abilities. Beech www/linuxpluginwrapper has a maintainer so I won't waste time trying to get it fixed but using the example provided earlier plus one more line #below must be on one line STOP|/www/linuxpluginwrapper rm -R /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins| #second line www/linuxpluginwrapper|WITH_PLUGINS=1| #third line START|/www/linuxpluginwrapper rm -f /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins| Would make the link prior to installation, at installation time libs go to the right place and after installation the link is removed... -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 05:34:23PM -0600, David Kelly wrote: But anyway, FreeBSD 6.0 is hugely superior to 5.4 and 4.11 in filesystem performance. I have been measuring this carefully for the past couple of months and hope to have the paper out soon. For instance in 5.4 the fastest I could write to my /usr/ partition on a simple default-partitioned UDMA100 drive was 16 MB/sec with a 2.8 GHz P4 while it was capable of reading at over 40 MB/sec. Saw RELENG_6 writing on that partition at over 40 MB/sec recently. Unscientific tests using systat -v and moving big files. A gvinum striped volume on two SATA150 drives routinely produces 70 MB/sec reads and writes. On this amr array with 4 disks, write performance is up to 150 MB/sec on the device with multiple processes writing to the filesystem. This makes it a good testbed because there's a lot of room to observe scaling under varying loads. Its nice that FreeBSD is now close to the hardware's performance. One nit is that with such a large sustained access other small accesses are starved. Probably a scheduler issue, and I'm sure the scheduler is being worked on. Yes, I've noticed that too. It also occurs in 4.11 and 5.4, but is about 50% less severe on 4.11. The ULE scheduler is much better in this respect, but processes run about 5-20% slower under most loads. Kris pgpNWTUBH1HIJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 05:09:38PM +, David Gerard wrote: Danial Thom wrote: I vote for Look what they've done to my song, Ma - a commentary on the destruction of the (formally) world's best operating system. So far I'm finding 6.x a heck of a lot better than 5.x. The mousewheel just works, a lot more of the ports just work, sound works ... you still have to fiddle with /boot/loader.conf to get the sound to go, which is completely braindead, but I'm sure it'll be up to the standard of Linux distros 2001. Ahemm, speaking of sound... how about a, *cough*, working MIDI sequencer? Any way to attach a MIDI device to 5.x or 6.x _and_ being able to record from it? Anything workable yet? No? Am I missing something crucial here? I would suggest a song about Pokemon sex toys. :) - d. Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Still need help getting PCBSD to read my SD card and Jumpdrive
Thanks for all your suggestions. I'm trying to get PCBSD to work properly with external media on a KDE environment. If anyone can explain why PCBSD KDE only configured my cd rom and hard drives, but left out a multi card reader (SD, CF, SM, MS) that's connected to the motherboard, although I think it's to one of the USB connections. I use a SD card from my camera, and also I can't get the USB connections on the front of the box to read my Lexar 1GB Jumpdrive. These media have Windows files. I appreciate the help I got from many of you to be able to read my floppy drive and CD ROM. Enrique ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash no longer displayed in Firefox
On Saturday 10 December 2005 02:45 pm, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 05:10:21PM +0100, dick hoogendijk wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 06:36:28 -0800 Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good information! To automate this with portmanager you can add the following two lines to pm-020.conf: #below must be on one line STOP|/www/linuxpluginwrapper rm STOP|-R /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins| YEAH, the information is good, except for the symlinked browser_plugins. You should not do this. That is, when I'd done this this week, mozilla wouldn't start anymore. Error 76 on X. It stook me quite some time to find out that the symlinked plugins dir was to blame. I removed the browser_linux_plugins and mozilla worked again. All plugins just are in browser_plugins. Having a REAL browser_linux_plugin dir does not harm the system. Ya know, I'm almost to the point where I'd pay real money to be able to play real, windows, and mp? files ((audioo)) with mozilla andor firefox. It's hopeless. Even on my ubuntu testbox, the config messes up. When realplayer can play dog/doze media, they get 5 gold stars. (*sigh*) One of the sad parts is that half of the real plugins for firefox are only available on Windows 2000/XP. You have all of these sites that don't test their web pages via a modem and then, can't understand when people are unhappy because their flash features take 5 minutes to start doing something. Last I read was that only 15% or so of the people have DSL or faster. The other 85% are being ignored. I maintain the computers in a genealogy center. I have to wait until people are through before I can become the administrator and update the virus signatures. While I am waiting, I listen to music on my mp3 player and watch what people are doing. I think most of the people start fiddling with the mouse after 20 seconds of inactivity and after 20 more seconds, you have lost them. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
Hope this saves somebody a few keystrokes: * VI * #!/bin/sh # themesong ... enables you to quickly create a singable # ode to your favorite FreeBSD pet peeve. Add it, along with # mail(1) to your crontab to really annoy list members. # # License: BSD, of course. Additions welcome, provided # the meet with the goals of the Project. if [ $OSTYPE != FreeBSD ]; then echo Wrong O.S. --- Gritch on your own project/distro's list! exit 1 fi case $1 in -c) cat /COPYRIGHT exit 0;; -C) cat /COPYRIGHT exit 0;; # let the GNU people gritch too; but they won't like this part --copyright) cat /COPYRIGHT exit 0;; esac if [ $1 ]; then echo THE BIKESHED SONG sung to 'You are my Sunshine' and humbly submitted as a candidate in the soon-to-be-announced FreeBSD Theme Song Contest (but definitely not in any code competitions...) '$1' is my bikeshed, my only bikeshed '$1' makes me happy to gritch and moan; You'll never know, friend, how much I loathe '$1' Won't you please leave my '$1' alone!? else echo Usage: themesong foo ---where 'foo' is a description of your pet peeve with this O.S., e.g. 'themesong networking' fi * DE * :D Kevin Kinsey -- THE DAILY PLANET SUPERMAN SAVES DESSERT! Plans to Eat it later ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
Kevin Kinsey sat at his 'puter and typed on 12/11/2005 11:04: Hope this saves somebody a few keystrokes: * VI * #!/bin/sh # themesong ... enables you to quickly create a singable # ode to your favorite FreeBSD pet peeve. Add it, along with # mail(1) to your crontab to really annoy list members. # # License: BSD, of course. Additions welcome, provided # the meet with the goals of the Project. if [ $OSTYPE != FreeBSD ]; then echo Wrong O.S. --- Gritch on your own project/distro's list! exit 1 fi case $1 in -c) cat /COPYRIGHT exit 0;; -C) cat /COPYRIGHT exit 0;; # let the GNU people gritch too; but they won't like this part --copyright) cat /COPYRIGHT exit 0;; esac if [ $1 ]; then echo THE BIKESHED SONG sung to 'You are my Sunshine' and humbly submitted as a candidate in the soon-to-be-announced FreeBSD Theme Song Contest (but definitely not in any code competitions...) '$1' is my bikeshed, my only bikeshed '$1' makes me happy to gritch and moan; You'll never know, friend, how much I loathe '$1' Won't you please leave my '$1' alone!? else echo Usage: themesong foo ---where 'foo' is a description of your pet peeve with this O.S., e.g. 'themesong networking' fi * DE * :D Kevin Kinsey ROFLMAO This is definitely the best of all. Well done Kevin. Simply marvelous Thanks S. -- --- \ / | Subhro Sankha Kar \./ | GSM: +919831010002 -- Fax: +919831832913 (0Y0) |MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yahoo!: subhro82 -ooO--(_)--Ooo- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
arplookup 192.168.1.254 failed: host is not on local network
ok what doing you tell me how doing setting the ip address and fail network local network ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]