How to overwrite openssl base with the one from ports?
Hello list, I seem to have some problems overwriting openssl base. I have tried building security/openssl with OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES but to no success. After i run: make OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES install clean i get the port installed in /usr/local/bin and lib ok, but i'm left with openssl in /usr/bin and lib too. Do i have to make buildworld/installworld with NO_OPENSSL in /etc/make.conf in order not to have openssl from base and then install it from port ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Regular Expression Editor
Carmel wrote: On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:38:41 -0800 Randal L. Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com replied: You need to be specific about the kind of regex. While most regexp engines have common things like . and * and ^ and $, the meanings may vary a bit, and the more exotic things are certainly going to vary. (For example, despite the name, Perl Compatible [sic] Regular Expressions are *not* Perl compatible.) What tool are you using your regexes with? OK, I was using RegExp Buddy http://www.regexbuddy.com/ on a Windows machine. I would like to find something similar to it for a FreeBSD environment. The expressions I create are used primarily with 'sieve' in conjunction with Dovecot. I am also thinking of possibly creating a few for use with Postfix. I believe dovecot simply uses the standard posix 'extended regular expression' syntax as seen in programs like grep(1). [See: http://ietfreport.isoc.org/idref/draft-ietf-sieve-regex ] In principle, this means you can write your test data into a file, and test it by running it through grep(1) using the -E flag: grep -E 'foo@(bar|baz)\.org' testdata.txt Postfix uses PCRE by default. You can do the same sort of trick there: just run 'pcregrep' rather than 'grep -E' However, note that the regexes in dovecot sieve scripts are subject to a level of shell expansion. (Not sure what happens with postfix.) This means various special characters are going to need to be escaped by preceding them with a *pair* of backslashes. So, in the example above, the bit that says '\.' (meaning override the usual meaning of '.' as a wildcard that will match any character, and instead match a literal '.') would have to be entered into your sieve script as '\\\.' If in doubt, simply pound on the backslash key a few more times... Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How to overwrite openssl base with the one from ports?
Andrei Brezan wrote: Hello list, I seem to have some problems overwriting openssl base. I have tried building security/openssl with OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES but to no success. After i run: make OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES install clean i get the port installed in /usr/local/bin and lib ok, but i'm left with openssl in /usr/bin and lib too. Do i have to make buildworld/installworld with NO_OPENSSL in /etc/make.conf in order not to have openssl from base and then install it from port ? There's no such option as 'OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE' in a current ports tree[*]. There is only WITH_OPENSSL_BASE=yes which means link any ports against the version of the OpenSSL libs installed by the base system, or WITH_OPENSSL_PORTS=yes which means link any ports against the version of OpenSSL installed from ports. Applications that use SSL in the base system are always linked against the base system version of OpenSSL, and the ports system will throw an exception if you say 'WITH_OPENSSL_PORTS' but the ABI version number of the shlibs in the base system is greater than the ones from the ports. So defining WITHOUT_OPENSSL in /etc/src.conf[+] is not advisable either. Cheers, Matthew [*] Despite its appearance in the mail/dkim-milter and mail/dk-milter ports. That's a bug. It won't do anything. [+] Assuming you're running 7.x or later. -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How to overwrite openssl base with the one from ports?
Matthew Seaman wrote: Andrei Brezan wrote: Hello list, I seem to have some problems overwriting openssl base. I have tried building security/openssl with OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES but to no success. After i run: make OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES install clean i get the port installed in /usr/local/bin and lib ok, but i'm left with openssl in /usr/bin and lib too. Do i have to make buildworld/installworld with NO_OPENSSL in /etc/make.conf in order not to have openssl from base and then install it from port ? There's no such option as 'OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE' in a current ports tree[*]. There is only WITH_OPENSSL_BASE=yes which means link any ports against the version of the OpenSSL libs installed by the base system, or WITH_OPENSSL_PORTS=yes which means link any ports against the version of OpenSSL installed from ports. Applications that use SSL in the base system are always linked against the base system version of OpenSSL, and the ports system will throw an exception if you say 'WITH_OPENSSL_PORTS' but the ABI version number of the shlibs in the base system is greater than the ones from the ports. So defining WITHOUT_OPENSSL in /etc/src.conf[+] is not advisable either. Cheers, Matthew [*] Despite its appearance in the mail/dkim-milter and mail/dk-milter ports. That's a bug. It won't do anything. [+] Assuming you're running 7.x or later. Thank you, will use then WITH_OPENSSL_PORTS when needed. You were right in assuming 7.x or later. Regards, Andrei ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
geli problem (???)
I have Intel DG45ID + Core2 machine with USB keyboard and I want to use geom_eli to encrypt my entire freebsd partition. My FreeBSD version is freebsd 8.0p2, my Drive is SATA and I have USB keyboard and mouse. I intend to boot via USB flash disk and attach the partition at boot. Everything works as described in the documentation, except for a nasty problem. When I try to attach my encrypted partition at boot, it seems that my enter key on the keyboard gets stuck and keep sending LF to my console continuously. The keyboard and the key though are 100% ok (tested on windows). I'm not getting this problem when I use geli to attach the partition after boot, only at boot time (geom_eli_load=YES in loader.conf). I'm not quite sure that the problem isn't the USB keyboard itself or to be more exactly the USB support for that keyboard. For example when I go to mountroot prompt (screwed fstab) I can't type a thing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Rss feed
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Spen Bilquis has invited you to Dropbox
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FreeBSD + exFAT
I know that this was asked approximately 1 year ago; however, I was wondering if there had been any movement on it. Specifically, getting FreeBSD to recognize the 'exFAT' format. It is becoming a very common format for use on removable drives. URLs: http://bhandler.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!70F64BC910C9F7F3!5216.entry?w http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa914353.aspx http://support.microsoft.com/kb/955704 -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | Advice to young men: Be ascetic, and if you can't be ascetic, then at least be aseptic. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Regular Expression Editor
Chad == Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com writes: Chad I don't know if I've just overlooked your presence before, or if this is Chad actually the first time I've seen a comment from you on this mailing Chad list, but hi, Randal. It might be the first or second comment. I'm a new FreeBSD user. I've been talking about my experiences in the intro/outros of recent FLOSS Weekly episodes (http://twit.tv/floss) if you want details. Chad I think you must have overlooked the part where Carmel mentioned writing Chad regexen for use with sieve+Dovecot and possibly with Postfix. That wasn't in the initial message that I recall. But if that was already clear, I apologize for repeating my question. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
rdiff-backup-1.2.8 python2.5.4 : OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum
I run rdiff-backup on my backup server: - FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE AMD64 - rdiff-backup-1.2.8,1 - python25-2.5.4_3 - be pro quad - 4G Ram I try to rdiff a folder on a nfs ro mounted volume to an other volume. I obtain this error : OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum I have the same problem as Brad Beyenhof see here : http://www.mail-archive.com/rdiff-backup-us...@nongnu.org/msg03794.html I know it's a know problem due to a bug in Python. And have to upgrad Python to 2.5.4 or 2.6.1. But I'm on python25-2.5.4_3 !!! and rdiff need python25 to run so I can't remove it for python26... What can I do to obtain my full backup ? Thanks -- Michel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
rum0 acting as an Access point (belkin router) 8.0 R
I'm not sure wether syntax has changed but I wanted to cretae an wlan acess point and tried various things. Under 7.0 I got it working with the following command ifconfig rum0 inet 10.0.0.1/24 mediaopt hostap ssid CITYOFFICE wepmode on wepkey 0xf00baf00ba weptxkey 1 channel 1 I tried this but got a socket error Invalid argument. Then I tried (from an example in the rum (4) manpage):ifconfig wlan create wlandev rum0 10.0.0.1/24 mediaopt hostap CITYOFFICE wepmode on wepkey 0xf00baaf00baa weptxkey 1 channel 1 and got: wlan0 ifconfig: SIOCSIFMEDIA (media): Device not configured But suddenly the wlan0 device is there. Can anybody fill me in? -- Christoph ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD + exFAT
On 1/15/2010 3:19 PM, Jerry wrote: I know that this was asked approximately 1 year ago; however, I was wondering if there had been any movement on it. Specifically, getting FreeBSD to recognize the 'exFAT' format. It is becoming a very common format for use on removable drives. It's patented and it probably comes with a multi-page aggrement and a price. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT#Licensing) says: Companies can integrate exFAT into a specific group of consumer devices, including cameras, camcorders and digital photo frames for a flat fee. Mobile phones, PCs and networks have a different volume pricing model. The above sound pretty much inappropriate for an open source operating system like FreeBSD. Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
wireless ath - unable to get scan results
This is my first wireless attempt. Please don't shoot me for asking obvious questions. This is on FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT sparc64 I've TL-WN851N PCI wireless card. I see in dmesg: ath0: Atheros 9280 mem 0x11-0x11 at device 3.0 on pci0 ath0: [ITHREAD] ath0: AR9280 mac 128.2 RF5133 phy 13.0 and with pciconf -lv a...@pci0:0:3:0:class=0x028000 card=0x2091168c chip=0x0029168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' class = network and with ifconfig # ifconfig ath0 ath0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 2290 ether 00:27:19:e1:b7:d9 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (autoselect) status: no carrier # Does this look ok so far? Following the manual I try to scan for available networks, but get this message immediately, so it doesn't look like it's searching for anything # ifconfig ath0 scan ifconfig: unable to get scan results # I've in kernel config file: device ath # Atheros pci/cardbus NIC's device ath_hal # Atheros HAL (Hardware Access Layer) device ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath options AH_SUPPORT_AR5416 # enable AR5416 tx/rx descriptors device wlan device wlan_ccmp # 802.11 CCMP support device wlan_tkip # 802.11 TKIP support device wlan_wep# 802.11 WEP support and also this firewall line options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK but I've no /etc/ipf.rules yet Perhaps it's my firewall that's blocking everything? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rum0 acting as an Access point (belkin router) 8.0 R
On 1/15/10, Christoph Kukulies k...@kukulies.org wrote: I'm not sure wether syntax has changed but I wanted to cretae an wlan acess point and tried various things. Under 7.0 I got it working with the following command ifconfig rum0 inet 10.0.0.1/24 mediaopt hostap ssid CITYOFFICE wepmode on wepkey 0xf00baf00ba weptxkey 1 channel 1 I tried this but got a socket error Invalid argument. Then I tried (from an example in the rum (4) manpage):ifconfig wlan create wlandev rum0 10.0.0.1/24 mediaopt hostap CITYOFFICE wepmode on wepkey 0xf00baaf00baa weptxkey 1 channel 1 Perhaps you want this one: ifconfig wlan create wlandev rum0 10.0.0.1/24 wlanmode hostap ssid CITYOFFICE wepmode on wepkey 0xf00baaf00baa weptxkey 1 channel 1 and got: wlan0 ifconfig: SIOCSIFMEDIA (media): Device not configured But suddenly the wlan0 device is there. Can anybody fill me in? -- Christoph ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Paul B Mahol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wireless ath - unable to get scan results
On 1/15/10, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: This is my first wireless attempt. Please don't shoot me for asking obvious questions. Did you read ath(4) manual? Ignore first two examples. You need to create wlanX first. -- Paul B Mahol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wireless ath - unable to get scan results
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: ... ath0: Atheros 9280 mem 0x11-0x11 at device 3.0 on pci0 ... # ifconfig ath0 ath0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 2290 ether 00:27:19:e1:b7:d9 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (autoselect) status: no carrier # Does this look ok so far? Yes. Not sure how well the 9280 works overall. Following the manual The Handbook is out of date on this. I try to scan for available networks, but get this message immediately, so it doesn't look like it's searching for anything # ifconfig ath0 scan ifconfig: unable to get scan results # From 8.0 on, it necessary to create a wlan0 clone device of the actual wireless card. Then use wlan0 for the actual wireless operation: # ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0 # ifconfig wlan0 up list scan That can be automated in rc.conf with wlans_ath0=wlan0. I can't find a PR for updating the Handbook on this. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Dislike the way port conflicts are handled now
Until recently, it seems like port dependencies were handled at installation time. Lately, they're handled any time I try to do anything with a port. I absolutely detest the new behavior. Example cases: OLD WAY: $ cd /usr/ports/something/foo22 $ make $ pkg_delete foo21-2.1 $ make install NEW WAY $ cd /usr/ports/something/foo22 $ make === foo22 conflicts with installed package(s): foo21-2.1 $ make fetch === foo22 conflicts with installed package(s): foo21-2.1 $ curse --type=copious $ pkg_delete foo21-2.1 $ make install This isn't just a hypothetical pain in the butt. An example was being unable to build databases/mysql51-client because mysql-client-5.0.something was installed. I understand not being able to *install* it, but to be prevented from *building* it? In most circumstances, I want to be able to delete the old package and install the new one with minimal downtime. As another example, can you imagine not being able to even run make fetch on something huge like OpenOffice until you uninstalled the old version? In the mean time, I've been editing the port's Makefile to remove the CONFLICTS line long enough to finish building. That's not very helpful for those ports that don't actually build until you run make install, but at least I can get the distfile download out of the way. -- Kirk Strauser ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GEOM corrupt or invalid GPT detected on ZFS raid on Freebsd 8.0 x64
On 01/08/10 09:56, Derrick Ryalls wrote: After not getting daily system mails for a while, then suddenly getting them, I took a closer look and noticed this message appears after a boot: +GEOM: ad4: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. +GEOM: ad4: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. +GEOM: label/disk1: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. +GEOM: label/disk1: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. label/disk1 should be the same thing as ad4, and it is part of a 4 disk raidz. My guess it that ZFS overwrote the label. The two aren't very compatible, to the best of my knowledge. -- Kirk Strauser ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
(SOLVED) Re: installing FreeBSD 8 on SSDs and UFS2 - partition alignment, block sizes, what does one need to know?
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Rick Macklem rmack...@uoguelph.ca wrote: On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Dan Naumov wrote: For my upcoming storage system, the OS install is going to be on a 80gb Intel SSD disk and for various reasons, I am now pretty convinced to stick with UFS2 for the root partition (the actual data pool will be ZFS using traditional SATA disks). I am probably going to use GPT partitioning and have the SSD host the swap, boot, root and a few other partitions. What do I need to know in regards to partition alignment and filesystem block sizes to get the best performance out of the Intel SSDs? I can't help with your question, but I thought I'd mention that there was a recent post (on freebsd-current, I think?) w.r.t. using an SSD for the ZFS log file. It suggested that that helped with ZFS perf., so you might want to look for the message. rick I have managed to figure out the essential things to know by know, I just wish there was a single, easy to grasp webpage or HOWTO describing and whys and hows so I wouldn't have had had to spend the entire day googling things to get a proper grasp on the issue :) To (perhaps a bit too much) simplify things, if you are using an SSD with FreeeBSD, you: 1) Should use GPT 2) Should create the freebsd-boot partition as normal (to ensure compatibility with some funky BIOSes) 3) All additional partitions should be aligned, meaning that their boundaries should be dividable by 1024kb (that's 2048 logical blocks in gpart). Ie, having created your freeebsd-boot, your next partition should start at block 2048 and the partition size should be dividable by 2048 blocks. This applies to ALL further partitions added to the disk, so you WILL end up having some empty space between them, but a few MBs worth of space will be lost at most. P.S: My oversimplification was in that MOST SSDs will be just fine with a 512 kb / 1024 block alignment. However, _ALL_ SSDs will be fine with 1024 kb / 2048 block alignment. - Sincerely, Dan Naumov ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
library problems with sound-juicer
Hi, When trying to portupgrade sound-juicer I get: ... /usr/bin/ld: warning: libssl.so.5, needed by /usr/local/lib/libneon.so, may conflict with libssl.so.7 /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_certs_init' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_cert_get_serialnumber' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_cert_find_subjectAltName_otherName' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_certs_find' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_verify_attach_anchors' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_query_alloc' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_get_error_string' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_cms_unenvelope' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_lock_add_password' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_revoke_init' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_verify_hostname' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_cms_unwrap_ContentInfo' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_prompt_hidden' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_name_free' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_cert_check_eku' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_name_binary' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_certs_append' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_verify_destroy_ctx' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_name_to_Name' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_cms_wrap_ContentInfo' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_cert_get_issuer' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_free_octet_string_list' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_certs_iter' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_revoke_free' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_cert_get_subject' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_cert_free' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_verify_attach_revoke' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_get_one_cert' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_verify_init_ctx' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_revoke_add_crl' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_context_free' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_cms_create_signed_1' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_name_is_null_p' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_cms_verify_signed' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_lock_free' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_context_set_missing_revoke' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_query_match_option' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_query_free' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_lock_init' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_verify_set_proxy_certificate' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_certs_free' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_context_init' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_lock_set_prompter' /usr/lib/libkrb5.so: undefined reference to `hx509_crypto_available' gmake[2]: *** [sound-juicer] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/audio/sound-juicer/work/sound-juicer-2.28.1/src' ... There seems to be a problem with libssl.so.5, but why isn't libssl just being upgraded to libssl.so.7? Libkrb5.so seems broken too. Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks, Marco -- QOTD: I want a home, a family, an occasional spanking ... -- Kathy Ireland ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: any port use /dev/dsp directly?
In the last episode (Jan 14), Gary Kline said: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 05:08:25PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jan 14), Gary Kline said: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 03:19:47PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: The sox port comes with its own play command that can parse many containers and encodings, including wav files. I did see that. I'm wondering of theses is some sox translation that would do say %sox -w WAV -r [rawoutfile] Certainly; file conversion is one of the basic purposes of sox. Something like: sox myfile.wav -b 16 -e signed -r 22050 -c 2 myfile.raw will convert the wav file (whatever its format is) to a signed 16-bit stereo raw file. For raw files, you can also use special file extensions that specify the encoding (myfile.s16 for example, for a signed 16-bit file). Adding -V3 to the beginning of the command will print the full input and output specs, plus the filter chain required to do the conversion (if any). The sox and soxformat manpages are pretty comprehensive. yes, the man page is thorough, but almost unreadable, at least to me. i found a tutorial with exaples that should the WAV to RAW conversion. on my freebsd desktop, sox didn't like it. it kept echoing the usage. That is a bit annoying, yes, but right before the usage test, it should have printed an error message saying what it didn't like about your commandline. on my ubuntu system, sox failed completely complaining that that it wasn't set for auto . [?] I checked again here to see if sox as play would work, and it does. so at least that much works. the error output escapes me. doesn't the ``-r 22050'' specify the sampling rate? Yes, but that was during the wav-raw conversion. The sample rate wasn't stored in the raw file, because raw files are just that: raw audio data, with no headers indicating sampling rate for encoding format. For the play command to be able to handle a raw file, it needs to be told the rate and format when it's run. play FAIL formats: bad input format for file `myfile.raw': sampling rate was not specified -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Trying to build 8.0 Headless Installation Disk
Tim Judd writes: ^^^ mkisofs needs to have the boot record -b boot/cdboot -no-emul-boot It works! Thank you. Here is another question as I am still trying to reduce the logistics of remotely rebuilding several FreeBSD systems. The 8.0 CDROM uses mfs and opens up some interesting possibilities. If one could get some sort of sshd server going with password security, the install could be directed over the network. No need to procure terminal servers which all agree are a great idea to have but which never seem to get bought and installed. Is there a way to safely run the new installer from a sshd server that one might start with? The idea would be to have Disk 1 that starts sshd and a kernel. You get staff at the remote end to remove Disk 1 and install Disk 2 which is the CDROM containing the 8.0 installation. You then run sysinstall and it works without clobbering your ssh connection until time to reboot. The ultimate solution would be to have the installation CDROM be capable of bringing up sshd with some sort of password protection. Most systems these days have usb ports which may not be bootable, but one could stick a /etc/passwd file on a thumb drive. When the OS saw it, it would use DHCP to get an address and then start sshd. No usb drive or no floppy with a passwd file on it, no network or sshd. Thanks. Martin McCormick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
vi editing
Hi gurus: I am trying to add a word on every line (right in front of every line) via vi. Right now I have: x x x after that, I want to have: new word x new word x new word x How could I do that with vi? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: vi editing
preface each line: :%s/^/new word /g -- J.D. Bronson Information Technology Aurora Health Care - Milwaukee WI ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: vi editing
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 07:37:49 -0800 (PST) gahn wrote: I am trying to add a word on every line (right in front of every line) via vi. Right now I have: x x x Type this: :%s/^/new word / after that, I want to have: new word x new word x new word x How could I do that with vi? -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: vi editing
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:11:32PM -0600, J.D. Bronson wrote: preface each line: :%s/^/new word /g The trailing g isn't needed because you only need one substitution on each line. Thus: :%s/^/new word / -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpHKscgdZrD2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: vi editing
On Friday 15 January 2010, gahn wrote: Hi gurus: I am trying to add a word on every line (right in front of every line) via vi. Right now I have: x x x after that, I want to have: new word x new word x new word x How could I do that with vi? :%s/^/new word/ -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
linker error gnupg
Gnupg exits with the following error when portupgrading it: ... gpg2keys_ldap-gpgkeys_ldap.o(.text+0xd09): In function `send_key': : undefined reference to `ascii_isspace' gmake[2]: *** [gpg2keys_ldap] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/security/gnupg/work/gnupg-2.0.14/keyserver' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/security/gnupg/work/gnupg-2.0.14' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnupg. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnupg. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade20100115-54677-16vn430-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=gnupg-2.0.13 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=2.0.13 make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! security/gnupg (gnupg-2.0.13) (linker error) ... Anyone an idea how to solve this? Thanks, Marco -- A major, with wonderful force, Called out in Hyde Park for a horse. All the flowers looked round, But no horse could be found; So he just rhododendron, of course. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Trying to build 8.0 Headless Installation Disk
Replies inline On 1/13/10, Martin McCormick mar...@dc.cis.okstate.edu wrote: Tim Judd writes: ^^^ mkisofs needs to have the boot record -b boot/cdboot -no-emul-boot And as another option, you might look at mfsBSD, it runs off mfs (RAM) disks with sshd being enabled by default. Once it boots (kernel starts probing), the cd can be ejected. This could be a game changer if I could somehow get the FreeBSD8.0 installation CD to run remotely via this method. The install mediums are a basic freebsd kernel with a MFS-root that provides a cut-down userland including the binary sysinstall. The kernel tries a few binaries to run as the initial binary, init. The last item it will try to launch on startup is sysinstall. The problem is that some of the systems that I am upgrading are 150 miles away. We have people there who are not comfortable with Unix but who are certainly able to install and remove CDROM's on request. If I could get the sysinstall application to talk to me over the network, I don't care if it is a serial line or not. You can run sysinstall over any connection, I've had it running on the local console (of course), serial console, and ssh session. If we could get this down to 1 or two CD's, a major millstone will be removed from my neck. As a computer user who happens to be blind, the serial console is extremely useful and I usually make whatever version of FreeBSD we are using in to a serial console disk so it comes up serial, even if it is right next to me. It just makes things go more smoothly if one doesn't have to hunt up a keyboard and hope this or that box still has a sounder so you can hear any beeps. I'm surprised on how far braille has gotten onto computer systems. I have even put a portable radio on top of a server and listened for activity because that was the only way to tell if it was booting or in Lala Land. Just for the record, a steady sound usually means Lala Land and a sound like whales competing FOR territory and female attention means something is happening. Anyway, not needing to modify the installation disk, itself would be nice. In closing, I love FreeBSD and nothing said here is a gripe or complaint. FreeBSD is Unix and therefore accessible. Utilities like installation disks and rescue applications are always a little tricky because they deal with the system at a very low level. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
/etc/rc.d/program nice value
I'm running some programs using the /etc/rc.d/ and /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ startup scripts. I am wondering if there is some standard way to run these programs at a higher nice value. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /etc/rc.d/program nice value
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nerius Landys wrote: I'm running some programs using the /etc/rc.d/ and /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ startup scripts. I am wondering if there is some standard way to run these programs at a higher nice value. Hi Nerius, Check out the list of variables in /etc/rc.subr. This should help you: # ${name}_nicen Nice level to run ${command} at. That means you can write this in your /etc/rc.conf file: apache22_enable=YES apache22_nice=10 Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFLULjv0sRouByUApARAv7zAJ4tbzuO/iixDQ4uXuko3eZV3vd3vQCgxS6A +iD7qTmAyK5Dff6WWSihtY4= =o29l -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /etc/rc.d/program nice value
That means you can write this in your /etc/rc.conf file: apache22_enable=YES apache22_nice=10 Hope that helps, Oh yes, that helps a lot. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: vi editing
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 07:37:49 -0800 (PST), gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi gurus: I am trying to add a word on every line (right in front of every line) via vi. Right now I have: x x x after that, I want to have: new word x new word x new word x How could I do that with vi? :%s/^/new word / ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rdiff-backup-1.2.8 python2.5.4 : OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 14:51:14 +0100, Michel Le Cocq wrote: I run rdiff-backup on my backup server: - FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE AMD64 - rdiff-backup-1.2.8,1 - python25-2.5.4_3 - be pro quad - 4G Ram I try to rdiff a folder on a nfs ro mounted volume to an other volume. I obtain this error : OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum I have the same problem as Brad Beyenhof see here : http://www.mail-archive.com/rdiff-backup-us...@nongnu.org/msg03794.html I know it's a know problem due to a bug in Python. And have to upgrad Python to 2.5.4 or 2.6.1. But I'm on python25-2.5.4_3 !!! and rdiff need python25 to run so I can't remove it for python26... What can I do to obtain my full backup ? Thanks Hi. I'm not familiar with the specific bug, but if you want to upgrade Python from 2.5 to 2.6 that can be done by following the 20090608 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I also use rdiff-backup and can confirm that it works with Python 2.6. Hope that helps, -Mark -- Internet Radio: Party107 (Trance/Electronic) - http://www.party107.com IRC: MIXXnet IRC Network - irc.mixxnet.net (Nick: MarkK) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[audio] Why pcm audio signal can't be read back through pcm channel?
I noticed that I can't record sound that comes from pcm channel. For example audacity only records my voice coming from mic, but doesn't record other person's voice that skype sends into pcm channel. This used to work before. I look at mixer -- all channels are open. Why pcm doesn't get sent back? Is there something wrong with mixer? snd_es137x.ko is used: pcm0: AudioPCI ES1370 port 0xec00-0xec3f irq 17 at device 1.0 on pci8 pcm0: es1370_wrcodec: timed out pcm0: es1370_wrcodec: timed out pcm0: es1370_wrcodec: timed out pcm0: [ITHREAD] pcm0: Playback: DAC1,DAC2 / Record: ADC Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Server set up
Can i install free bsd on a Window's 98 machine and what do i need on the machine to set it up as a server and what software and hardware does it need ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server set up
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:12 PM, davidowe...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Can i install free bsd on a Window's 98 machine and what do i need on the machine to set it up as a server and what software and hardware does it need FreeBSD is a Operating System, Windows 98 is a Operating System. Unless you take special measures to Dual Boot, you will end up with only FreeBSD after you are done. You should be aware that FreeBSD and Windows 98 use different filesystems, so when you go to Install FreeBSD on your system it will be looking to repartition your hard disk. You should take care to backup your important data prior to installing FreeBSD. Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server set up
On Jan 15, 2010, at 10:12 AM, davidowe...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Can i install free bsd on a Window's 98 machine and what do i need on the machine to set it up as a server and what software and hardware does it need FreeBSD is an operating system; you would run it instead of Windows, although if you have enough disk space, you could dual-boot between the two. Read the fine documentation here: http://www.freebsd.org/about.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html ...which includes a discussion of hardware requirements and additional software which people commonly install. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server set up
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:12:53 + davidowe...@yahoo.co.uk davidowe...@yahoo.co.uk articulated: Can i install free bsd on a Window's 98 machine and what do i need on the machine to set it up as a server and what software and hardware does it need This might answer some of your questions: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | Winter is nature's way of saying, Up yours. Robert Byrne ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
fsck failed to sync inodes
Hi gurus: I booted the system into single user mode and tried to clean up one of my corrupted file system: fsck -y /dev/ad1s1f but in the end, the file system is still dirty. anything else I can do to salvage the data? Thanks in Advance ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck failed to sync inodes
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:27 PM, gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi gurus: I booted the system into single user mode and tried to clean up one of my corrupted file system: fsck -y /dev/ad1s1f but in the end, the file system is still dirty. anything else I can do to salvage the data? Thanks in Advance Run it again, fsck can require multiple runs to fix the issues. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck failed to sync inodes
Hi-- On Jan 15, 2010, at 12:27 PM, gahn wrote: I booted the system into single user mode and tried to clean up one of my corrupted file system: fsck -y /dev/ad1s1f but in the end, the file system is still dirty. anything else I can do to salvage the data? You're not providing enough details to give specific advice. If this filesystem is already mounted as /usr (which is the default mountpoint for an f partition), you might try booting from CD and running fsck from there to ensure that you are not trying to fsck a mounted filesystem. If your hard drive is failing and fsck cannot fix issues because it can't write the changes to disk, you should attempt to copy the entire drive onto a replacement drive and fsck that instead. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: any port use /dev/dsp directly?
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:12:17AM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jan 14), Gary Kline said: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 05:08:25PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: [[ ... ]] sox myfile.wav -b 16 -e signed -r 22050 -c 2 myfile.raw will convert the wav file (whatever its format is) to a signed 16-bit stereo raw file. For raw files, you can also use special file extensions that specify the encoding (myfile.s16 for example, for a signed 16-bit file). Adding -V3 to the beginning of the command will print the full input and output specs, plus the filter chain required to do the conversion (if any). The sox and soxformat manpages are pretty comprehensive. yes, the man page is thorough, but almost unreadable, at least to me. i found a tutorial with exaples that should the WAV to RAW conversion. on my freebsd desktop, sox didn't like it. it kept echoing the usage. That is a bit annoying, yes, but right before the usage test, it should have printed an error message saying what it didn't like about your commandline. on my ubuntu system, sox failed completely complaining that that it wasn't set for auto . [?] I checked again here to see if sox as play would work, and it does. so at least that much works. the error output escapes me. doesn't the ``-r 22050'' specify the sampling rate? Yes, but that was during the wav-raw conversion. The sample rate wasn't stored in the raw file, because raw files are just that: raw audio data, with no headers indicating sampling rate for encoding format. For the play command to be able to handle a raw file, it needs to be told the rate and format when it's run. play FAIL formats: bad input format for file `myfile.raw': sampling rate was not specified Hm. Well, once I'm further along in this stuff I'll ask your help again. I made more changes, happily advancing my project, just before I threw in the towel and went to watch the news. Spiders were gluing me to the desk with their webs. One immediate thought is that the -r 22050 may have been way too large since the WAV file is 8000Hz and mono. It is small as-is, but it wouldn't hurt to have it shrung by stripping off the header. just a thought. -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Trying to build 8.0 Headless Installation Disk
Thank you. I will get one of those mfs-enabled 8.0 CD's and have at it. All the boxes we need to upgrade have at least a gig of RAM so this should be the answer. Tim Judd writes: I'm surprised on how far braille has gotten onto computer systems. Yes. I am sory that this is a bit off-topic, but there is an open-source Braille translation software project. The kind of Braille that true Braille readers read is called Grade 2 Braille. It might remind one of shorthand because the idea is to pack as much information in to the available space as possible since the size of a Braille symbol is relatively fixed because the last time I checked, human fingers are still being made in roughly the same size range that they have been made for the last 500,000 years or so. There are symbols that stand for larger words or common groups of letters such as er, ar, the and for and lots of rules as to when to spell out those letters or use the symbol. Generally, the symbol is used when it doesn't bridge syllables. It can be computerized, but it is not trivial as some of the decisions are based on context. The same 6-dot Braille cell system has been adapted to all the world's languages so there is Arabic Braille, Chinese Braille with all the rules that apply to that language. I do not know this, but I imagine that the reading sense of whether to read from left to right or right to left is preserved for that language, also. If an English Braille reader picked up a page of Braille written in Arabic, for example, it would have the familiar feel of Braille, but it would be totally incomprehensible, even as to whether or not it was right side up. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server set up
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 06:12:53PM +, davidowe...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Can i install free bsd on a Window's 98 machine and what do i need on the machine to set it up as a server and what software and hardware does it need Sure you can install it on a machine running W98. First a question: Do you intend to continue running the W98 or convert it completely to FreeBSD? In the first case, it is called 'dual booting', meaning there are more than one OSen on the machine and it can be booted to one or the other at any given time. So, it this case you would preserve the W98 while installing FreeBSD. In the second case you just wipe out the W98 and dedicate the whole machine to FreeBSD. In general, the main thing you need is a compatible machine. If it has been successfully running W98, then it is most probably a compatible machine. And you need enough space. In spite of what the hot shots like to claim - they like to say it can be run in a tiny minimal space - to run comfortably with any of the recent versions of FreeBSD, Xwindows, a windows manager, a reasonably feature-full web browser and an office package - most probably OpenOffice, you need at least 512 MBytes memory and 20 GBytes of disk. You would be happier with double the memory and at least 3 or 4 times the disk or more. Sure it can be done with less, but we are talking comfort here, not running embedded systems or being out to prove something. Of course, if you plan to dual boot FreeBSD along with the existing installation of W98, then you need enough disk for both of them. Probably 20 Gbytes each as a minimum. More is nicer. Although it is possible to get away without one, it is much easier nowdays if you have a CD or DVD reader (and burner if possible). Otherwise you are stuck with needing a floppy drive (USB is OK). The CD or DVD drive needs to be bootable. You may have to go in to BIOS and set it to be bootable. Also make it higher in the boot list than the hard disk. If you want to dual boot, then you will need to acquire a utility that will allow you to shrink down the W98 portion of the disk to make room for FreeBSD. There are several available, both for a price and free. The most common one to buy is Partition Magic. I have used that successfully until I came to dividing a USB disk and it failed on that. It has some other quirks and limits too. The most common free one is gparted which you can download and burn to a CD from the net. Just do a Google search for it. There are other free ones. Two limited ones come with FreeBSD. I don't remember back to W98. Does it use NTFS file system type? It the Windos file system is of type NTFS, most of the free partition utilities will not work.I think that gparted is supposed to, but I haven't tried it on that. Partition Magic does work on NTFS. That is the main reason I have paid the money to get it. But, if you can get it, buy the Version 7 of PM. It is better, in my experience, than Version 8. In fact, when I got version 8 - because it was advertised to work on USB disks - I ended up sending it back for a refund. Not only did it NOT work on USB, but some other things I don't remember now were less or not functional that worked [better] in Version 7. If you get either Partition Magic or gparted, make a bootable media for them. For PM it seems to want to be on Floppy. gparted could make a bootable CD. You need to run from that media rather than the main disk because you will be working on that main disk. Boot up the utility and squeeze down the W98 primary partition to make room for another primary partiton. Then have the utility make a _primary_ partition in the newly emptied space. The utilities will complain about there being two primary partitions and want to make one of them in to an extended one, but stick with primary partition and ignore their complaints. It has to be a primary to be bootable. Later W98 will just ignore it anyway. I think you also have to designate it as a FAT32 type for the utility, though that becomes irrelevant after FreeBSD acts on it. So, if it insists on a type, give it FAT32. If it asks, but doesn't force a selection, ignore it. I can't remember if it forces a selection or not. Some systems have two primary partitions already - one that the hardware vendor puts there with maintenance utilities. They make that hidden from Windows stuff (but it will be seen by FreeBSD). The other will be the W98 installation. In that case, FreeBSD will go in to a third primary partition. Once you have that all done with the disk successfully modified, then you are ready for the FreeBSD install. If you are not going to preserv the W98 (probably the better choice since W98 is lousy and obsolete) then just skip all that stuff about Partition Magic and gparted above and continue from here. Download and burn the FreeBSD install ISO disk 1 just according to the Handbook. Choose the latest
Re: Dislike the way port conflicts are handled now
On Jan 15, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Kirk Strauser wrote: Until recently, it seems like port dependencies were handled at installation time. Lately, they're handled any time I try to do anything with a port. I absolutely detest the new behavior. Example cases: OLD WAY: $ cd /usr/ports/something/foo22 $ make $ pkg_delete foo21-2.1 $ make install NEW WAY $ cd /usr/ports/something/foo22 $ make === foo22 conflicts with installed package(s): foo21-2.1 $ make fetch === foo22 conflicts with installed package(s): foo21-2.1 $ curse --type=copious $ pkg_delete foo21-2.1 $ make install This isn't just a hypothetical pain in the butt. An example was being unable to build databases/mysql51-client because mysql- client-5.0.something was installed. I understand not being able to *install* it, but to be prevented from *building* it? In most circumstances, I want to be able to delete the old package and install the new one with minimal downtime. As another example, can you imagine not being able to even run make fetch on something huge like OpenOffice until you uninstalled the old version? In the mean time, I've been editing the port's Makefile to remove the CONFLICTS line long enough to finish building. That's not very helpful for those ports that don't actually build until you run make install, but at least I can get the distfile download out of the way. -- Kirk Strauser I agree. I've found that this can interfere with portmaster's -o option, used to replace an installed port with one of a different origin. In my case, databases/mysql41-server with databases/mysql55- server. - Craig ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Problem w/ mysql extension installation
phpmyadmin requires the mysql extension which is apparently not included in the mysql54 ports Installing it from /usr/ports/databases/php5-mysql == --- --- --- In file included from /usr/local/include/php/main/../main/php_config.h:2839, from /usr/local/include/php/Zend/zend_config.h:1, from /usr/local/include/php/Zend/zend.h:53, from /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h:34, from /usr/ports/databases/php5-mysql/work/php-5.2.12/ext/mysql/php_mysql.c:32: /usr/local/include/php/ext/php_config.h:1:30: error: ext/mysql/config.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/php5-mysql. Indeed /usr/local/include/php/ext/mysql/config.h is not present! Should this have been installed with the mysql installation or from a dependency? How can I correct this ? Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Problem-w--mysql-extension-installation-tp27184350p27184350.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GELI file systems unusable after glabel label operations
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 01:25:50AM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: It has been a long time since I created those GELI partitions, but I think I used the geli init -K keyfilename /dev/daXsYP, where P is the partition identifier in slice Y of drive X. What I did when I screwed the pooch on this was of the form glabel label fsname /dev/daXsYP, which I had thought would produce a /dev/label/fsname device and that doing a geli attach afterward would produce a /dev/label/fsname.eli device. You could have done two things to create a nested label/geli configuration; 1) Create a labeled device from /dev/daXsYP, which would yield /dev/label/foo, then create a geli device _on the labeled device_, creating /dev/label/foo.eli. This will work because the labeled device will be one sector shorter than the raw da device. The .eli device will be yet another sector shorter, leaving two adjacent metadata sectors for the nested providers. This is the key point. 2) Create the geli device /dev/daXsYP.eli, and then create a label on that, yielding /dev/label/bar. [not sure what the utility of this is, since the label will only appear after the geil provider has been attached] The first one seems most useful for things like automatic mounting. Check /var/backups. There should be *.eli files there. Those are the automa= tic No joy. :-( metadata backups that 'geli init' makes (at least in 8.0). You can restore those backups with 'geli restore'. Those must be new in 8.0. I don't see any in 7.2, just {aliases,group, master.passwd}.bak{,2} in /var/backups. Probably. I didn't see them when I was running 7.2, and I only noticed it in the 8.0 manpage. Running 'geli init' again with the same parameters will not work, because 'geli init' uses a random component in the key generation. In other words, = two inits with the same password will not generate the same key! Is there some way to recover using the existing key files, which I do still have? And of course, I do know the passphrases. Not as I read the geli source. It _always_ uses arc4rand to generate a random salt for the key during 'init'. Read the function 'static void eli_init(struct gctl_req *req)' in /usr/src/sbin/geom/class/eli/geom_eli.c. This means that subsequent 'geli init' calls with the same password or keyfile will still yield a different key. I'm afraid your data is lost. You should always make a backup before playing with filesystems. Most people learn this the hard way, although I realize that this is small consolation. What you should have done (for future refrence) is use geli(8) to create the encrypted device, then create a filesystem on that encrypted device with newfs(8) using the '-L' flag to set the volume name. Or use tunefs(8) to set the volume name later. These names will be automatically recognized next ti= me you attach it and listed in /dev/ufs/. Thank you for that information. If only it had been laid out that way in the man page of the handbook when I read it before starting on the labeling procedure...sigh. It _is_ listed in the glabel manpage, at least in 8.0. And I think that the proper way to nest geoms is too obvious (at least for the developers/maintainers) to explicitly list in the handbook. If you know that geoms store metadata in their last sector, the proper way to nest them is to use the different devices for each geom stage, so that each has their own metadata sector. Procedure #1 that I outlined above should be easier to automate, should you want to, because you can then just use 'geli init /dev/label/foo'. As of 7.2, each UFS filesystem automatically has an unique file system id that is automatically created during boot in /dev/ufsid. These labels are unique and do not change. You can use those to mount these filesystems. See §19.6 in the latest version of the Handbook. I have a new 1 TB drive that I will soon connect to the system and begin creating file systems. I will make gzipped image files with dd(1) of the damaged partitions and store them on the new drive for a while in case a workable idea turns up. Since the partitions are encrypted, don't bother with gzip. Encrypted data is pretty close to random noise. No compression program can compress that vey much. With the gzip header, it might even become bigger. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpT6c9Yiukp2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: /etc/rc.d/program nice value
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:50:23 -0500 Greg Larkin glar...@freebsd.org wrote: Nerius Landys wrote: I'm running some programs using the /etc/rc.d/ and /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ startup scripts. I am wondering if there is some standard way to run these programs at a higher nice value. Hi Nerius, Check out the list of variables in /etc/rc.subr. This should help you: # ${name}_nicen Nice level to run ${command} at. That will work if the script lets /etc/rc.subr start the daemon. If it implements its own start function then ${name}_nice will have to be explicitly supported by the script - not all do that unfortunately. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: geli problem (???)
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:18:57 +0200 Angelin Lalev lalev.ange...@gmail.com wrote: I have Intel DG45ID + Core2 machine with USB keyboard and I want to use geom_eli to encrypt my entire freebsd partition. My FreeBSD version is freebsd 8.0p2, my Drive is SATA and I have USB keyboard and mouse. I intend to boot via USB flash disk and attach the partition at boot. Everything works as described in the documentation, except for a nasty problem. When I try to attach my encrypted partition at boot, it seems that my enter key on the keyboard gets stuck and keep sending LF to my console continuously. The keyboard and the key though are 100% ok (tested on windows). I'm not getting this problem when I use geli to attach the partition after boot, only at boot time (geom_eli_load=YES in loader.conf). I'm not quite sure that the problem isn't the USB keyboard itself or to be more exactly the USB support for that keyboard. For example when I go to mountroot prompt (screwed fstab) I can't type a thing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi, I had the same symptoms with a USB keyboard and the geli prompt. However it seems to be fixed in 8.0-STABLE. If you didnt compile your own world/kernel try running freebsd-update. Otherwise or if that didnt help try building kernel and/or world from the stable sources. As a workaround it helped for me using either a PS/2 keyboard or a PS/2-USB-adapter. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server set up
Jerry McAllister wrote: Of course, if you plan to dual boot FreeBSD along with the existing installation of W98, then you need enough disk for both of them. Probably 20 Gbytes each as a minimum. More is nicer. If you want to dual boot, then you will need to acquire a utility that will allow you to shrink down the W98 portion of the disk to make room for FreeBSD. There are several available, both for a price and free. The most common one to buy is Partition Magic. I have used that successfully until I came to dividing a USB disk and it failed on that. It has some other quirks and limits too. The most common free one is gparted which you can download and burn to a CD from the net. Just do a Google search for it. There are other free ones. Two limited ones come with FreeBSD. I don't remember back to W98. Does it use NTFS file system type? It the Windos file system is of type NTFS, most of the free partition utilities will not work.I think that gparted is supposed to, but I haven't tried it on that. NTFS comes with NT versions of Windows, that is, NT, Windows 2000, and everything since then. W95 and W98 used FAT filesystems. Fat32 was the default for Win98 IIRC. KDK ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server set up
I will be deleting the Window's stuff on the machine How would i SSH to the Linux pc and what software should i install I was going to install mySQL and apache plus PHP + tomcat and webmin and do i need to install bandmin and Email's software like Thunderbird and openoffice and i have it on a USB for ram and disk space how do i see how much i have on my machine and were do i download free bsd from ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server set up
Did you just refer to BSD as Linux? Oh boy, get ready for some flames! - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Fri Jan 15 16:37:09 2010 Subject: Re: Server set up I will be deleting the Window's stuff on the machine How would i SSH to the Linux pc and what software should i install I was going to install mySQL and apache plus PHP + tomcat and webmin and do i need to install bandmin and Email's software like Thunderbird and openoffice and i have it on a USB for ram and disk space how do i see how much i have on my machine and were do i download free bsd from font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Newbie gmirror questions
I'm about to upgrade to more disk space and I'm tempted use this as an opportunity to get two disks and implement gmirror. Before I go ahead there's a few aspects of mirroring I'm not sure about and would appreciate some advice. I'm using grub for multi booting. Does this introduce any problems if I want to boot into Windows or Linux on one of the other partitions? The gmirror manpage describes the procedure for handling kernel dumps using the prefer balance algorithm in the early stages of booting and then switching to round-robin in the /etc/rc.local script. It then goes on to say that If on the next boot a component with a higher priority will be available, the prefer algorithm will choose to read from it and savecore(8) will find nothing. Does this only arise if I've made some change to the configuration of the mirror between the dump and the reboot or is there some instances when the priority automatically changes? Some of the articles I've read about gmirror suggest setting the balance to round-robin while others just leave this at the default setting of split. Am I right in assuming that round-robin would give better performance, and does it make much noticeable difference in real terms. In particular am I likely to see a reduction in performance using gmirror compared with what I would get with just a normal single disk. Finally, recent articles say to set kern.geom.debugflags to 17 when creating a mirror on a mounted drive while older articles say to set it to 16. Although I'll probably be creating the mirror on my disks before copying my system onto them so I don't really need to worry about setting this flag but I'm curious to know the difference between using the two values. -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server set up
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 04:34:17PM -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote: Jerry McAllister wrote: Of course, if you plan to dual boot FreeBSD along with the existing installation of W98, then you need enough disk for both of them. Probably 20 Gbytes each as a minimum. More is nicer. The most common free one is gparted which you can download and burn to a CD from the net. Just do a Google search for it. There are other free ones. Two limited ones come with FreeBSD. I don't remember back to W98. Does it use NTFS file system type? It the Windos file system is of type NTFS, most of the free partition utilities will not work.I think that gparted is supposed to, but I haven't tried it on that. NTFS comes with NT versions of Windows, that is, NT, Windows 2000, and everything since then. W95 and W98 used FAT filesystems. Fat32 was the default for Win98 IIRC. Probably right. Sounds likely. jerry KDK ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server set up
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:37:09PM +, davidowe...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I will be deleting the Window's stuff on the machine OK. Good idea. How would i SSH to the Linux pc and what software should i install What Linux pc? Anyway, FreeBSD base system inclused SSH. I was going to install mySQL and apache plus PHP + tomcat and webmin and do i need to install bandmin and Email's software like Thunderbird and openoffice and i have it on a USB I don't know what bandmin is. I use sendmail for my MTA. For an Email reader I actually use MUTT -- an older text based Email program. It is easier to handle large amounts of Email than the graphics oriented readers. Depends on where your Email comes to and lives. If it will come to and originate on the FreeBSD system, you can use the default sendmail that comes with it for your MTA and whatever you want for the reader/composer. If you really read and compose your Email on another machine like your ISP or on gmail or yahoo and access it with a browser, you don't actually need an Email reader utility. Although it is useful to have one that will work with your browser for those times you want to click on one of those 'sendto' Email links in a web page. You don't need openoffice for Email, but it is good for wordprocessing and spreadsheets and stuff like that. for ram and disk space how do i see how much i have on my machine If you have W98 running on it I think you fish around in your control panel page or my computer or something like that. If you have alread wiped W98 and can boot the install disk, you can look at the boot messages. and were do i download free bsd from I think you need to go to the FreeBSD web site www.freebsd.org and start reading. It is all there and more, especially including where to get the ISO files for downloading and how to do the install. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
OOo question.....
this may be offtopic but it does deal with our OO.org port. a friend sent me a very nice slideshow in powerpoint format. I've saved it (and the original) somewhere in the evolution directory so all the photos are safe. first question is: can I save an individial image using Openoffice? Second q is howto use them for my desktop backgrounds in KDE since, upon rebuild and relaunch, everything is black. the first question is howto save a separate image? or are there other tools to do this? [neither xv nor gv work] tia, gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GELI file systems unusable after glabel label operations
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 01:25:50AM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: Check /var/backups. There should be *.eli files there. Those are the automa= tic No joy. :-( metadata backups that 'geli init' makes (at least in 8.0). You can restore those backups with 'geli restore'. Those must be new in 8.0. I don't see any in 7.2, just {aliases,group, master.passwd}.bak{,2} in /var/backups. [No help here, just a me-too...] I can confirm this: no metadata of GELI partitions generated on RELENG_7 were saved in /var/backups, but GELI partitions created since RELENG_8 were! I've noticed this by chance with geli init on an external disk, and thought that geli init would only create metadata backup automatically for disks that are not the same than the one hosting /var/backups (for obvious reasons, i.e. when you want to quickly destroy a key, and for- getting to wipe out the metadata backup). Apparently, it was the version bump, and not the different disks. Good to know indeed. Would a geli backup on those old RELENG_7 GELI partitions (or rather provider partitions) have the same effect as a RELENG_8-style geli init to get those metadata files? Maybe /usr/src/UPDATING should contain a little hint for those of us with old GELI partitions without auto-backups of metadata? I have a new 1 TB drive that I will soon connect to the system and begin creating file systems. I will make gzipped image files with dd(1) of the damaged partitions and store them on the new drive for a while in case a workable idea turns up. I feel your pain (having lost some data in a similar scenario while experimenting with glabel on geli partitions, but not as much as you). There should really be a big obvious warning in the glabel(8) and geli(8) man pages, because that's a big trap waiting to spring on unsuspecting users (POLA violation). :-( -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Server set up
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 12:40:12AM +, davidowe...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Bandmin is for cranewitch Whatever that is. I haven't heard of that either. Were can i get a free or cheap email exchange from ??? You mean the software or some service? If i am going to make the machine for yeahosting use what software do i need to install and is free bsd a forum of unix or Linux You really need to get on the FreeBSD web site and start reading. It has all the information there and links to even more discussions. Learn to use Google. You cannot expect people on the list to do all your homework for you. You have to learn this stuff and then ask questions about the parts you have trouble with.This stuff is already written up. We should not have to write it all again. FreeBSD is a BSD family UNIX. Now look up what that means. And what bit do you recommend and i have a external hard drive also for that pc and this one for more storage Huh - what bit??? Do i need to install apache and PHP and tomcat plus Ajax + pythan Only if you need them. I have never had need for tomcat or python or Ajax, but use Apache httpd web server a lot and some PHP. You need to think out what you are doing, study up on it and then do some experimenting. Since you plan to wipe that W98 machine and start over on it, then you can easily read and experiment and restart several times without any loss. Then you can learn it well. Have fun, jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server set up
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 04:34:17PM -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote: NTFS comes with NT versions of Windows, that is, NT, Windows 2000, and everything since then. W95 and W98 used FAT filesystems. Fat32 was the default for Win98 IIRC. I know a lot of MS Windows users like to pretend WinME never existed, but I like to think those of us in the FreeBSD community take a more honest look at the world. Thus, for the sake of clarity: NTFS comes with NT versions of Windows -- that is, WinNT, Win2K, WinXP, and everything since then. Win95, Win98, and WinME used FAT filesystems. I wouldn't want anyone to make some kind of grave error involving the assumption that WinME used NTFS. . . . -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpDYoBXwJP9c.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Server set up
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 4:37 PM, davidowe...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I will be deleting the Window's stuff on the machine How would i SSH to the Linux pc and what software should i install one of the first things you should understand is FreeBSD is Not Linux ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server set up
On 2010-01-16 02:42, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 4:37 PM,davidowe...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I will be deleting the Window's stuff on the machine How would i SSH to the Linux pc and what software should i install one of the first things you should understand is FreeBSD is Not Linux ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Many believe FreeBSD is Unix (and many would say that it really is, in all respects but its name, however that isn't the issue here). Moreover, I've got the impression lots of people truly believe Linux is just another name for Unix. And I do know for a fact that there are people who even believe Unix is another name for Linux. With such ideas, I guess it's easy to assume FreeBSD is just another Linux distro. Isn't it time we try to correct this? I try to do my part in that respect, by explaining to anyone who says, Oh, you're running Linux? that there is a difference. And that the difference matters. It may not matter to them. But it does matter to me. And I think it matters to most FreeBSD users. And I also believe it actually matters to Linux users, at least the more serious ones. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server set up
Many believe FreeBSD is Unix (and many would say that it really is, in all respects but its name, however that isn't the issue here). Moreover, I've got the impression lots of people truly believe Linux is just another name for Unix. And I do know for a fact that there are people who even believe Unix is another name for Linux. BSD is a UNIX like OS.. developed way back when by Berkley university in the US. Can't remember the dates but for that there's Google! In fact Wikipedia has a great tree diagram showing the origination of UNIX. Anyhow UNIX was developed at the end of the 60s by Bell Labs who back then was part of ATT in the US. But had many bugs and quirks and so a not-like-UNIX mode was developed according to my Cisco CCNA lecturer who was lecturing at university way before even then. FreeBSD is now an offshoot of BSD and one of a few within the family tree but is it's own take on BSD. With such ideas, I guess it's easy to assume FreeBSD is just another Linux distro. Isn't it time we try to correct this? I try to do my part in that respect, by explaining to anyone who says, Oh, you're running Linux? that there is a difference. And that the difference matters. It may not matter to them. But it does matter to me. And I think it matters to most FreeBSD users. And I also believe it actually matters to Linux users, at least the more serious ones. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Linux is just a kernel with lots of GPL and GNU software strapped to it developed by Linuz Torvalds back I'm sure it was 83 or perhaps was discussed back then. The first Linux distro to come out was back in ~93. Just to add without going completely off topic; there are many UNIX-like OS's available today including: BSD, Solaris, Linux, AIX, HP-UX and one of yesteryear called IRIX developed by Silicon Graphics. Back on to topic now ;) First work out what you want to use; Linux or FreeBSD then after you have decided start to learn it as it is extremely different from the M$ world and if used in its most raw sense involves no graphical interface or point-click nonsense! I would recommend using FreeBSD on old outdated h/w as the Linux kernel can be a bit heavy wrapped around a distro as vibrant as Fedora, or Debian and similar. That is without custom building kernels and packages specifically designed for the system in question. Although you would do this if using an embedded system as pointed out previously or if needing some very specific non-generic purpose. Just remember now that you have entered into the UNIX world that Google is your only friend and although there are many people on various lists and forums who can help and assist, they will not be pleased or welcome someone who has failed to use the main basic rule of any thing. As if it can't be Googled it most likely 99.9% doesn't exist!!! Regards, Kaya ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE:Re: Server set up
Bandmin is for cranewitch Were can i get a free or cheap email exchange from If i am going to make the machine for yeahosting use what software do i need to install and is free bsd a forum of unix or Linux And what bit do you recommend and i have a external hard drive also for that pc and this one for more storage Do i need to install apache and PHP and tomcat plus Ajax + pythan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server set up
On 2010-01-16 03:44, Kaya Saman wrote: Many believe FreeBSD is Unix (and many would say that it really is, in all respects but its name, however that isn't the issue here). Moreover, I've got the impression lots of people truly believe Linux is just another name for Unix. And I do know for a fact that there are people who even believe Unix is another name for Linux. BSD is a UNIX like OS.. developed way back when by Berkley university in the US. Can't remember the dates but for that there's Google! In fact Wikipedia has a great tree diagram showing the origination of UNIX. Anyhow UNIX was developed at the end of the 60s by Bell Labs who back then was part of ATT in the US. But had many bugs and quirks and so a not-like-UNIX mode was developed according to my Cisco CCNA lecturer who was lecturing at university way before even then. FreeBSD is now an offshoot of BSD and one of a few within the family tree but is it's own take on BSD. With such ideas, I guess it's easy to assume FreeBSD is just another Linux distro. Isn't it time we try to correct this? I try to do my part in that respect, by explaining to anyone who says, Oh, you're running Linux? that there is a difference. And that the difference matters. It may not matter to them. But it does matter to me. And I think it matters to most FreeBSD users. And I also believe it actually matters to Linux users, at least the more serious ones. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Linux is just a kernel with lots of GPL and GNU software strapped to it developed by Linuz Torvalds back I'm sure it was 83 or perhaps was discussed back then. The first Linux distro to come out was back in ~93. Just to add without going completely off topic; there are many UNIX-like OS's available today including: BSD, Solaris, Linux, AIX, HP-UX and one of yesteryear called IRIX developed by Silicon Graphics. Back on to topic now ;) First work out what you want to use; Linux or FreeBSD then after you have decided start to learn it as it is extremely different from the M$ world and if used in its most raw sense involves no graphical interface or point-click nonsense! I would recommend using FreeBSD on old outdated h/w as the Linux kernel can be a bit heavy wrapped around a distro as vibrant as Fedora, or Debian and similar. That is without custom building kernels and packages specifically designed for the system in question. Although you would do this if using an embedded system as pointed out previously or if needing some very specific non-generic purpose. Just remember now that you have entered into the UNIX world that Google is your only friend and although there are many people on various lists and forums who can help and assist, they will not be pleased or welcome someone who has failed to use the main basic rule of any thing. As if it can't be Googled it most likely 99.9% doesn't exist!!! Regards, Kaya Hi Kaya, Firstly, just for clarity, I do know all of that, and the original poster of this thread is the one you CC'ed. Secondly (also just for clarity, I guess), most of your post is OT, as it is basically a reply to my post, and my post was OT as it was simply a reaction to the original poster's mistake of saying Linux and meaning FreeBSD. Cheers, Rolf Nielsen P.S. No, I'm not trying to be a smart arse. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server set up
Hi Kaya, Firstly, just for clarity, I do know all of that, and the original poster of this thread is the one you CC'ed. Secondly (also just for clarity, I guess), most of your post is OT, as it is basically a reply to my post, and my post was OT as it was simply a reaction to the original poster's mistake of saying Linux and meaning FreeBSD. Cheers, Rolf Nielsen P.S. No, I'm not trying to be a smart arse. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi Rolf, it's cool :-) I know you knew all that but just wanted to take it a bit further that's all... Please don't worry about who I sent or cc'd to as for me it was just about sending the message out. Thanks for the OTT warning was just trying to clarify and extend. Sorry it's been a while since I've been on the front foot in mailing lists and forums for a while as I personally have taken a back seat while trying to learn many new things. I really wasn't trying to get in the way but just build on. Anyway, call it a simple miscommunication on my behalf - as long as it helps the OP as that was what it was designed and intended to do!!! Regards, Kaya ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Dislike the way port conflicts are handled now
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig Whipp wrote: On Jan 15, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Kirk Strauser wrote: Until recently, it seems like port dependencies were handled at installation time. Lately, they're handled any time I try to do anything with a port. I absolutely detest the new behavior. Example cases: OLD WAY: $ cd /usr/ports/something/foo22 $ make $ pkg_delete foo21-2.1 $ make install NEW WAY $ cd /usr/ports/something/foo22 $ make === foo22 conflicts with installed package(s): foo21-2.1 $ make fetch === foo22 conflicts with installed package(s): foo21-2.1 $ curse --type=copious $ pkg_delete foo21-2.1 $ make install This isn't just a hypothetical pain in the butt. An example was being unable to build databases/mysql51-client because mysql-client-5.0.something was installed. I understand not being able to *install* it, but to be prevented from *building* it? In most circumstances, I want to be able to delete the old package and install the new one with minimal downtime. As another example, can you imagine not being able to even run make fetch on something huge like OpenOffice until you uninstalled the old version? In the mean time, I've been editing the port's Makefile to remove the CONFLICTS line long enough to finish building. That's not very helpful for those ports that don't actually build until you run make install, but at least I can get the distfile download out of the way. -- Kirk Strauser I agree. I've found that this can interfere with portmaster's -o option, used to replace an installed port with one of a different origin. In my case, databases/mysql41-server with databases/mysql55-server. - Craig This change was based on a recent PR (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=137855) and made it into the tree a couple of weeks ago: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk.diff?r1=1.631;r2=1.632 Since some folks like the old behavior and some folks like the new behavior, what do you all think of a user-selectable make.conf option to choose where the check-conflicts target appears in the port build sequence? Regards, Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktRRz8ACgkQ0sRouByUApA35ACfY9NU8NBKarCm6eTFRLt1y/Nf ar8AoIxF68LgUZBuATfHLRyfaAZ9SOtw =kG5z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rdiff-backup-1.2.8 python2.5.4 : OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum
Thanks for your help, I just follow the upgrade. I'm now on : python26-2.6.4, rdiff-backup-1.2.8,1 But I still have the same error : OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum I just did : # rdiff-backup /mnt/users/toto /backup/Lipn/users_backup/toto It work for 393 user folder and give this error on 3. I tried to remove the destination folder but it change nothing. I attach here the Traceback. -- Michel Mark Kane a écrit: On Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 14:51:14 +0100, Michel Le Cocq wrote: I run rdiff-backup on my backup server: - FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE AMD64 - rdiff-backup-1.2.8,1 - python25-2.5.4_3 - be pro quad - 4G Ram I try to rdiff a folder on a nfs ro mounted volume to an other volume. I obtain this error : OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum I have the same problem as Brad Beyenhof see here : http://www.mail-archive.com/rdiff-backup-us...@nongnu.org/msg03794.html I know it's a know problem due to a bug in Python. And have to upgrad Python to 2.5.4 or 2.6.1. But I'm on python25-2.5.4_3 !!! and rdiff need python25 to run so I can't remove it for python26... What can I do to obtain my full backup ? Thanks Hi. I'm not familiar with the specific bug, but if you want to upgrade Python from 2.5 to 2.6 that can be done by following the 20090608 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I also use rdiff-backup and can confirm that it works with Python 2.6. Hope that helps, -Mark Thanks for your help, I just follow the upgrade. I'm now on : python26-2.6.4, rdiff-backup-1.2.8,1 But I still have the same error : OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum I just did : # rm -rf /backup/users_backup/toto/rdiff-ba* # rdiff-backup --force /mnt/users/toto /backup/Lipn/users_backup/toto I attach here the Traceback. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rdiff-backup-1.2.8 python2.5.4 : OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum
sorry, here is the right attachment. Michel Le Cocq a écrit: Thanks for your help, I just follow the upgrade. I'm now on : python26-2.6.4, rdiff-backup-1.2.8,1 But I still have the same error : OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum I just did : # rdiff-backup /mnt/users/toto /backup/Lipn/users_backup/toto It work for 393 user folder and give this error on 3. I tried to remove the destination folder but it change nothing. I attach here the Traceback. -- Michel Mark Kane a écrit: On Fri, Jan 15, 2010, at 14:51:14 +0100, Michel Le Cocq wrote: I run rdiff-backup on my backup server: - FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE AMD64 - rdiff-backup-1.2.8,1 - python25-2.5.4_3 - be pro quad - 4G Ram I try to rdiff a folder on a nfs ro mounted volume to an other volume. I obtain this error : OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum I have the same problem as Brad Beyenhof see here : http://www.mail-archive.com/rdiff-backup-us...@nongnu.org/msg03794.html I know it's a know problem due to a bug in Python. And have to upgrad Python to 2.5.4 or 2.6.1. But I'm on python25-2.5.4_3 !!! and rdiff need python25 to run so I can't remove it for python26... What can I do to obtain my full backup ? Thanks Hi. I'm not familiar with the specific bug, but if you want to upgrade Python from 2.5 to 2.6 that can be done by following the 20090608 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I also use rdiff-backup and can confirm that it works with Python 2.6. Hope that helps, -Mark Thanks for your help, I just follow the upgrade. I'm now on : python26-2.6.4, rdiff-backup-1.2.8,1 But I still have the same error : OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum I just did : # rm -rf /backup/users_backup/toto/rdiff-ba* # rdiff-backup --force /mnt/users/toto /backup/Lipn/users_backup/toto I attach here the Traceback. Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/rdiff-backup, line 30, in module rdiff_backup.Main.error_check_Main(sys.argv[1:]) File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rdiff_backup/Main.py, line 304, in error_check_Main try: Main(arglist) File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rdiff_backup/Main.py, line 324, in Main take_action(rps) File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rdiff_backup/Main.py, line 280, in take_action elif action == backup: Backup(rps[0], rps[1]) File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rdiff_backup/Main.py, line 346, in Backup backup.Mirror(rpin, rpout) File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rdiff_backup/backup.py, line 38, in Mirror DestS.patch(dest_rpath, source_diffiter) File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rdiff_backup/backup.py, line 232, in patch ITR(diff.index, diff) File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rdiff_backup/rorpiter.py, line 281, in __call__ last_branch.fast_process(*args) File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rdiff_backup/backup.py, line 529, in fast_process if self.patch_to_temp(mirror_rp, diff_rorp, tf): File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rdiff_backup/backup.py, line 553, in patch_to_temp result = self.patch_snapshot_to_temp(diff_rorp, new) File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rdiff_backup/backup.py, line 578, in patch_snapshot_to_temp rpath.copy_attribs(diff_rorp, new) File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rdiff_backup/rpath.py, line 180, in copy_attribs rpout.chown(*rpout.conn.user_group.map_rpath(rpin)) File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rdiff_backup/rpath.py, line 973, in chown try: self.conn.C.lchown(self.path, uid, gid) OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem w/ mysql extension installation
A couple of hours later I return to this problem at the file is there and the extension installed RATHER BIZARE jaymax wrote: phpmyadmin requires the mysql extension which is apparently not included in the mysql54 ports Installing it from /usr/ports/databases/php5-mysql == --- --- --- In file included from /usr/local/include/php/main/../main/php_config.h:2839, from /usr/local/include/php/Zend/zend_config.h:1, from /usr/local/include/php/Zend/zend.h:53, from /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h:34, from /usr/ports/databases/php5-mysql/work/php-5.2.12/ext/mysql/php_mysql.c:32: /usr/local/include/php/ext/php_config.h:1:30: error: ext/mysql/config.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/php5-mysql. Indeed /usr/local/include/php/ext/mysql/config.h is not present! Should this have been installed with the mysql installation or from a dependency? How can I correct this ? Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Problem-w--mysql-extension-installation-tp27184350p27187021.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server set up
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 07:42:02PM -0600, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 4:37 PM, davidowe...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I will be deleting the Window's stuff on the machine How would i SSH to the Linux pc and what software should i install one of the first things you should understand is FreeBSD is Not Linux How sure are we that davidoweir3 wasn't just asking about how to use SSH to connect to a Linux machine from a FreeBSD machine? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpAl4RDmNZyU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Correcting misconceptions? (was Re: Server set up)
On 2010-01-16 04:53, Jon Radel wrote: Rolf Nielsen wrote: Secondly (also just for clarity, I guess), most of your post is OT, as it is basically a reply to my post, and my post was OT as it was simply a reaction to the original poster's mistake of saying Linux and meaning FreeBSD. Which makes your latest, what, OT cubed? Point taken. Subject changed... On a marginally more serious note, how would you propose to start an effort to spearhead the BSD is not Linux, Linux is not UNIX, but good luck telling them apart until you're a propeller head like us educational campaign? (Harking back to your, Isn't it time we try to correct this, query.) There are probably more useful messages to try get out about FreeBSD than, No, it's not Linux, and we'll beat the snot out of you if you get confused in public. The part I wanted to correct is the idea that FreeBSD is a Linux distro. Whether or not people believe Linux is Unix, I don't really care about. My point was that if people believe Linux is another name for Unix or even that Unix is another name for Linux may be the cause of the misconception that FreeBSD is a Linux distro. And of course there are more meaningful messages, and more important ones. I never suggested it should be made top priority. I said I think it matters, not that it's the foundation on which the world stands. And, without changing my belief that it does matter, I will say that most importantly for me, I know the difference and that is one of the reasons why I chose FreeBSD. How it should be done? A good start would be to not just say It's not Linux if someone asks, but give a brief explanation to why it isn't. Handing out leaflets or making t-shirts isn't what I had in mind; it's not that an important issue. And beating the snot out of people isn't quite my idea of education. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GELI file systems unusable after glabel label operations
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:18:40 +0100 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 01:25:50AM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: =20 It has been a long time since I created those GELI partitions, but I think I used the geli init -K keyfilename /dev/daXsYP, where P is the partition identifier in slice Y of drive X. What I did when I screwed the pooch on this was of the form glabel label fsname /dev/daXsYP, which I = had thought would produce a /dev/label/fsname device and that doing a geli a= ttach afterward would produce a /dev/label/fsname.eli device. You could have done two things to create a nested label/geli configuration; 1) Create a labeled device from /dev/daXsYP, which would yield /dev/label/f= oo, then create a geli device _on the labeled device_, creating /dev/label/foo.eli. This will work because the labeled device will be one sector shorter than the raw da device. The .eli device will be yet anoth= er sector shorter, leaving two adjacent metadata sectors for the nested providers. This is the key point. 2) Create the geli device /dev/daXsYP.eli, and then create a label on that, yielding /dev/label/bar. [not sure what the utility of this is, since the label will only appear after the geil provider has been attached] The important point here is that one of the above methods must be used *before* the file system is created and the data loaded into it. Attempting either method *after* data are loaded will result in loss of the data. The first one seems most useful for things like automatic mounting. Okay. Thanks for the two methods. Check /var/backups. There should be *.eli files there. Those are the aut= oma=3D tic =20 No joy. :-( =20 metadata backups that 'geli init' makes (at least in 8.0). You can resto= re those backups with 'geli restore'. =20 Those must be new in 8.0. I don't see any in 7.2, just {aliases,gro= up, master.passwd}.bak{,2} in /var/backups. Probably. I didn't see them when I was running 7.2, and I only noticed it in the 8.0 manpage. Running 'geli init' again with the same parameters will not work, because 'geli init' uses a random component in the key generation. In other word= s, =3D two inits with the same password will not generate the same key! =20 Is there some way to recover using the existing key files, which I do still have? And of course, I do know the passphrases. Not as I read the geli source. It _always_ uses arc4rand to generate a rand= om salt for the key during 'init'. Read the function 'static void eli_init(str= uct gctl_req *req)' in /usr/src/sbin/geom/class/eli/geom_eli.c. This means that subsequent 'geli init' calls with the same password or keyfile will still yield a different key. I'm afraid your data is lost. Perhaps this provides a possible recovery method. As you read it, would it be possible to build an altered version of geli(8) that would simply use the existing key file without generating a new one to do a geli init operation? If so, it would certainly be worth my trouble to do that. You should always make a backup before playing with filesystems. Most people learn this the hard way, although I realize that this is small consolation. As I wrote previously, I had backups. My error was in labeling both the original partition *and* the partition containing the backup series at the same time. If I hadn't tried to save a reboot and a few other trivial operations and had instead labeled only the original data partition at first, I would have discovered the problem in time to rebuild the original correctly from the backups. Sigh. What you should have done (for future refrence) is use geli(8) to create= the encrypted device, then create a filesystem on that encrypted device with newfs(8) using the '-L' flag to set the volume name. Or use tunefs(8) to= set the volume name later. These names will be automatically recognized next= ti=3D me you attach it and listed in /dev/ufs/. Thank you for that information. If only it had been laid out that w= ay in the man page of the handbook when I read it before starting on the lab= eling procedure...sigh. It _is_ listed in the glabel manpage, at least in 8.0.=20 I don't have 8.0. And I think that the proper way to nest geoms is too obvious (at least for = the developers/maintainers) to explicitly list in the handbook. If you know that geoms store metadata in their last sector, the proper way to nest them is to use the different devices for each geom stage, so that each has their own metadata sector. Well, it wasn't at all obvious to me, and reading the parts that mention metadata being written to the last sector suggests, if anything, that labeling and encryption are incompatible because both write to the last sector, i.e., to the *same* sector. The idea of the last sector being different for the two operations is not at all apparent. Procedure #1 that I outlined above