Re: Sendmail - One Trick Pony
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/07/2010 16:12:36, J wrote: I'd like to set up Sendmail to facilitate e-mail (with attached jpeg) delivery to an internet account from my wireless IP camera. That's all I want it to do, nothing more. I've been a very satisfied FreeBSD user for a few years and am reasonably comfortable with OS and software configuration, but I have literally no knowledge of mail servers or configuring Sendmail. Some people suggest using other programs such as Postfix, but I'd rather get this work with Sendmail. I did install the cyrus-sasl2 port as well as saslauthd, since I thought I might have an authentication problem. Beyond that the only other things I've done are: Right: by enabling sendmail to accept e-mail from one remote client, you open the possibility of any client being able to e-mail via your server, so you should put some thought into how you're going to secure that. Personally, I'd be writing firewall rules to block incoming traffic to ports 25 and 587 from anywhere other than your camera. 1. sendmail_enable=YES in rc.conf 2. (camera's ip address) RELAY in /etc/mail/access I'm seeing my webmail account information (address and relay server) in maillog and when I use sendmail verbose, I see what looks like a successful transaction but the mail never gets delivered. So it would seem that the camera is communication fine with my FreeBSD server, but the mail isn't getting transmitted out to the internet. Any suggestions are appreciated. You want your sendmail instance to act as a mail client and authenticate to your webmail provider? That's certainly possible, but usually you can avoid it. If you need client-side auth, see the section Using sendmail as a client with AUTH in: http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html You will need to recompile sendmail with appropriate AUTH capabilities, as you would for providing server-side authentication. In any case, if you need client-side auth or not, start by making sure that you can send e-mail from your FreeBSD box to your webmail account manually --- use the mail(1) command like so: % mail -v -s test message your-n...@webmail.provider Test message . (Ie. type in the text of a message and finish with a dot on it's own on a separate line) Once that part works, look at relaying the e-mail from your camera. The '-v' flag should show you a verbose transcript of the SMTP dialogue involved when sending the message. Unfortunately nowadays that's just the interaction with the MSP instance of sendmail, and not the delivery to the webmail server. Anyhow, follow the progress of the message through to delivery by following the logging in /var/log/maillog. You can also examine the mail queues by: # mailq -v (Shows the main sendmail mail queue) # mailq -Ac -v (Shows the MSP sendmail mail queue) Usually you would have to be exceptionally fast and lucky to catch a message actually in the MSP mail queue. Messages getting stuck there indicates a problem with your local sendmail setup. One thing to check is that your ISP does not block outgoing traffic to port 25 -- this is frequently done as an anti-spam measure. In that case, you will need to relay all mail via your ISPs servers by using the smarthost setting described in another answer. Beyond that, you should now see one of three results: * Mail accepted by your webmail provider and shows up in your mailbox. Job done. * Mail rejected by your webmail provider. Hopefully with some sort of error message that will tell you why the message was rejected. In this case, you're looking at making sure the messages generated from your camera don't look like spam. Generally this boils down to making sure that the addresses in the message headers can be looked up in the DNS both forwards and backwards, and that your FreeBSD server also identifies itself (in the EHLO part of the SMTP dialogue) with a similarly verifiable name. * Mail accepted by your webmail provider, but then disappears without trace. In principle this shouldn't happen, but in practice as a SMTP service provider it's hard to avoid completely and still provide a competent anti-spam and anti-virus filter. In this case, you need to talk to the webmail provider and get them to examine the mail logs and tell you what the problem was with your message. It could be the same sort of DNS address verification stuff as above, or it could be something to do with the actual content you're sending. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14
Re: i386 wine on amd64 - DRI a lost cause?
On Friday 02 July 2010 01:35:05 xorquew...@googlemail.com wrote: On 2010-07-01 22:16:26, David Naylor wrote: Have you tried the packages from http://people.freebsd.org/~ivoras/wine/ They worked for me with nvidia and intel. Thanks, but as I mentioned in the hackers@ thread (and possibly this one), it's actually DRI that's the problem. I can't even run 32-bit glxinfo reliably in the chroot. libGL often receives EFAULT when doing various ioctls on /dev/dri/card0 and sometimes crashes outright. That is interesting as I am able to play Warcraft 3 on an intel laptop. I don't think it is using software rendering. Wine runs without crashing and does require libGL to launch the game. I have also played Command and Conquer 3 on nvidia (but the proprietry nvidia driver does not use dri). Good luck signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/07/2010 22:29:54, Ed Flecko wrote: Henrik, When I FIRST installed 8.0, I did create a separate /home partition. When I installed the kernel and starting running out of space in / , I thought O.K...I'll let FreeBSD make the partition sizes IT wants to and see if I have the same problem, and I did. Apparently, 512M is just, not, quite big enough so I think I'll try 1G to give me plenty of room. Is it time for me to start advocating one big partition again? This may not be the consensus view, but I have found that for a quiet life and general lack of botheration it helps to create *only two* partitions on your hard drive: b: Swap -- usually 2x RAM a: Everything else Now, I've run this setup on literally hundreds of servers without problems. The usual argument against doing this is but a run-away process might log so much that is fills your hard drive. This is true. You might also be killed by a lightning strike the next time you leave your house. Run-away logfiles are actually pretty rare, and given that 80GB would be considered a pretty small hard drive nowadays, and you can fit a standard FreeBSD install with quite a lot of extra software inside 10GB, you're likely to have sufficient empty space that you'ld get days of warning before it caused real trouble. In which case, newsyslog(8) is your friend. Cycling logs based on size and checking that every hour will avoid almost all trouble. You do monitor disk space usage on your servers don't you? Cacti is in ports and its pretty easy to set up, as are several other alternatives. Watch this list: you'll see people having trouble with too small root partitions with great regularity. I don't think I've /ever/ seen anyone ask about dealing with a process generating huge amounts of log data. Even if you do fill up the hard drive, it's not actually guaranteed disaster. FreeBSD itself will keep running just fine. So will most web applications -- although you won't get any logging. Simply delete some of the excess files, and the system will spring back to normal function. Filling the partition certainly will crash a database, but for serious RDBMS setups, I generally make an exception and put the database working files onto their own partition[*]. Nowadays too, I much prefer using ZFS -- so I have *one* zpool from which is allocated all of the space for the zdevs on the system. This is much the best of both worlds -- you get as many filesystems as you can eat, but each of them can use as much of the total available space as it needs to. Cheers, Matthew [*] As this usually involves hardware RAID10 with plenty of cache and a BBU on at least 4 x 15k RPM SAS2 drives, it would generally be on a separate partition in any case. - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwtllkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyTOwCeJYhR6kY6wxmP+WlNyGF/eJte I0wAnRuULVWsjqxFAHaL1SFFTJd2sMMW =T9JF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0
On 02.07.2010 09:33, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 01/07/2010 22:29:54, Ed Flecko wrote: Henrik, When I FIRST installed 8.0, I did create a separate /home partition. When I installed the kernel and starting running out of space in / , I thought O.K...I'll let FreeBSD make the partition sizes IT wants to and see if I have the same problem, and I did. Apparently, 512M is just, not, quite big enough so I think I'll try 1G to give me plenty of room. Is it time for me to start advocating one big partition again? This may not be the consensus view, but I have found that for a quiet life and general lack of botheration it helps to create *only two* partitions on your hard drive: b: Swap -- usually 2x RAM a: Everything else I usually (today) set up something similar. I sysinstall FreeBSD onto a CF card with the one-big-root method, then create a zpool (on spinning-metal-storage) where I create the usr, tmp, var fs'es, tar|tar the originals over and fix the mountpoint info on the zfs'es. Then I add swap on a zvol (since I don't know how to properly use a kernel dump, I don't need swap to store it). I use this method everywhere except on VMs inside VMWare ESXi. It's been my painful experience that zfs inside vmware machines is a bad idea. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Convert all packages to ports
On Friday 02 July 2010, Chris Stankevitz wrote: --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@yahoo.com wrote: Q: Is there a simple way to replace each package with the locally compiled port? portmaster -f -a Ideally the procedure will not ask me any questions Be prepared to answer hundreds of options questions. To take the default option you must press TAB, ENTER to each query. Have fun! Would portmaster -Gfa help ? From the man page: -G prevents the recursive 'make config' (overrides --force-config) -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0
On 2 July 2010 08:33, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.ukwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/07/2010 22:29:54, Ed Flecko wrote: Henrik, When I FIRST installed 8.0, I did create a separate /home partition. When I installed the kernel and starting running out of space in / , I thought O.K...I'll let FreeBSD make the partition sizes IT wants to and see if I have the same problem, and I did. Apparently, 512M is just, not, quite big enough so I think I'll try 1G to give me plenty of room. Is it time for me to start advocating one big partition again? This may not be the consensus view, but I have found that for a quiet life and general lack of botheration it helps to create *only two* partitions on your hard drive: b: Swap -- usually 2x RAM a: Everything else Now, I've run this setup on literally hundreds of servers without problems. The usual argument against doing this is but a run-away process might log so much that is fills your hard drive. This is true. You might also be killed by a lightning strike the next time you leave your house. Run-away logfiles are actually pretty rare, and given that 80GB would be considered a pretty small hard drive nowadays, and you can fit a standard FreeBSD install with quite a lot of extra software inside 10GB, you're likely to have sufficient empty space that you'ld get days of warning before it caused real trouble. In which case, newsyslog(8) is your friend. Cycling logs based on size and checking that every hour will avoid almost all trouble. You do monitor disk space usage on your servers don't you? Cacti is in ports and its pretty easy to set up, as are several other alternatives. Watch this list: you'll see people having trouble with too small root partitions with great regularity. I don't think I've /ever/ seen anyone ask about dealing with a process generating huge amounts of log data. Even if you do fill up the hard drive, it's not actually guaranteed disaster. FreeBSD itself will keep running just fine. So will most web applications -- although you won't get any logging. Simply delete some of the excess files, and the system will spring back to normal function. Filling the partition certainly will crash a database, but for serious RDBMS setups, I generally make an exception and put the database working files onto their own partition[*]. Nowadays too, I much prefer using ZFS -- so I have *one* zpool from which is allocated all of the space for the zdevs on the system. This is much the best of both worlds -- you get as many filesystems as you can eat, but each of them can use as much of the total available space as it needs to. Cheers, Matthew [*] As this usually involves hardware RAID10 with plenty of cache and a BBU on at least 4 x 15k RPM SAS2 drives, it would generally be on a separate partition in any case. - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwtllkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyTOwCeJYhR6kY6wxmP+WlNyGF/eJte I0wAnRuULVWsjqxFAHaL1SFFTJd2sMMW =T9JF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org all i can say is your a brave boy 8) A 1 TB+ / slice would take ages to fsck. Of course all these issues go away with zfs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
Hi guys, Woke up this morning and discovered that one of my FreeBSD 7.2 servers was down. When I try to SSH into the box, I get this: ~ 510 $ ssh m...@my.example.com ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host FTP doesn't work, either, but the DNS server on the machine responds to queries, and I can ping the box. Any ideas on what might be the problem? Thanks: John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:52 PM, John Almberg jalmb...@identry.com wrote: ~ 510 $ ssh m...@my.example.com ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host Locked account, maybe? -- chs, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
/var/log/messages empty since June 26 :-/
Hello On a FreeBSD 6.3 server sitting in a corner of the office not doing much work, I noticed that /var/log/messages was turned over and has been empty since 26 June: # tail /var/log/messages Jun 26 16:00:00 freebsd newsyslog[5320]: logfile turned over due to size100K # ll /var/log/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 78 26 jui 16:00 messages -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel8396 26 jui 16:00 messages.0.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel8329 30 mar 11:00 messages.1.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel8663 2 mar 2009 messages.2.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel9640 20 déc 2008 messages.3.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel6554 17 oct 2008 messages.4.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel5825 17 oct 2008 messages.5.bz2 (jui = June, jul = July) I don't have enough experience with FreeBSD to understand the cause for this, and how to solve it, so would appreciate any suggestion. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /var/log/messages empty since June 26 :-/
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/07/2010 12:11:16, Gilles wrote: Hello On a FreeBSD 6.3 server sitting in a corner of the office not doing much work, I noticed that /var/log/messages was turned over and has been empty since 26 June: # tail /var/log/messages Jun 26 16:00:00 freebsd newsyslog[5320]: logfile turned over due to size100K # ll /var/log/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 78 26 jui 16:00 messages -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel8396 26 jui 16:00 messages.0.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel8329 30 mar 11:00 messages.1.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel8663 2 mar 2009 messages.2.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel9640 20 déc 2008 messages.3.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel6554 17 oct 2008 messages.4.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel5825 17 oct 2008 messages.5.bz2 (jui = June, jul = July) I don't have enough experience with FreeBSD to understand the cause for this, and how to solve it, so would appreciate any suggestion. Is syslogd running? Restarting syslogd would be a good thing to try in any case: # /etc/rc.d/syslogd restart This should result in some output to the system logs -- if you don't see that, then your syslog.conf may be broken: syslogd can die silently in those circumstances. You'll need to run syslogd with the '-d' debugging flag in addition to what flags you usually use in order to see what the problem is. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwtyzgACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzuCQCfS+eyBa/KJQnSrFUKLstmlLnA 9cQAn22j9hqDFuKTOlzydMUp71tNVFMS =9Suy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
Christer Solskogen wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:52 PM, John Almbergjalmb...@identry.com wrote: ~ 510 $ ssh m...@my.example.com ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host Locked account, maybe? I've tried several accounts and they all give the same result. There's also the fact that FTP and Apache seem to be broken, as well. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /var/log/messages empty since June 26 :-/
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:19:20 +0100, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: Is syslogd running? Yes it is: # ps aux | grep -i syslog | grep -v grep root518 0,0 0,3 1404 1072 ?? Ss Ven19 0:02,07 /usr/sbin/syslogd -s Restarting syslogd would be a good thing to try in any case: # /etc/rc.d/syslogd restart Looks like it did the trick: # tail -f /var/log/messages Jun 26 16:00:00 freebsd newsyslog[5320]: logfile turned over due to size100K Jul 2 13:26:45 freebsd syslogd: exiting on signal 15 Jul 2 13:26:45 freebsd syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel This should result in some output to the system logs -- if you don't see that, then your syslog.conf may be broken: syslogd can die silently in those circumstances. You'll need to run syslogd with the '-d' debugging flag in addition to what flags you usually use in order to see what the problem is. If the same issue pops up again, I'll try the -d option. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
On 07/02/2010 01:28 PM, John Almberg wrote: Christer Solskogen wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:52 PM, John Almbergjalmb...@identry.com wrote: ~ 510 $ ssh m...@my.example.com ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host Locked account, maybe? I've tried several accounts and they all give the same result. There's also the fact that FTP and Apache seem to be broken, as well. It could be that your /var filesystem filled up DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
Bas Smeelen wrote: On 07/02/2010 01:28 PM, John Almberg wrote: Christer Solskogen wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:52 PM, John Almbergjalmb...@identry.com wrote: ~ 510 $ ssh m...@my.example.com ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host Locked account, maybe? I've tried several accounts and they all give the same result. There's also the fact that FTP and Apache seem to be broken, as well. It could be that your /var filesystem filled up I'm on the console, now. Looks like a swapspace problem... The first terminal is scrolling by the swapspace messages really fast (it kills httpd, but then starts again). I tried logging in on the 2nd and 3rd virtual console, but hangs after I type root - never prompts for password. Is there anything I can do besides rebooting? On that subject... does Ctrl-Alt-Del initiate an orderly shutdown? -- John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
/usr/sbin/periodic security check changing date format
The daily security check run by /usr/sbin/periodic has started to change the date format when checking suid files with the result that all the files are flagged as changed. On Wednesday I had the following ... curlew.lan setuid diffs: --- /var/log/setuid.today 2010-06-06 09:01:14.0 +0100 +++ /tmp/security.6Np9Q7Bn 2010-06-30 11:30:48.0 +0100 @@ -1,70 +1,70 @@ - 164937 -r-sr-xr-x 1 rootwheel 18560 Jun 1 18:34:35 2010 /bin/rcp [snip] + 164937 -r-sr-xr-x 1 rootwheel 18560 1 Jun 18:34:35 2010 /bin/rcp Anacron wasn't running yesterday so the next report was today when it switched back from day month to month day... curlew.lan setuid diffs: --- /var/log/setuid.today 2010-06-30 11:30:48.0 +0100 +++ /tmp/security.Y7M72oUL 2010-07-02 00:08:44.0 +0100 @@ -1,70 +1,70 @@ - 164937 -r-sr-xr-x 1 rootwheel 18560 1 Jun 18:34:35 2010 /bin/rcp [snip] + 164937 -r-sr-xr-x 1 rootwheel 18560 Jun 1 18:34:35 2010 /bin/rcp And I'm sure I haven't made any changes to the system in the last few days which might cause this format change. -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
Locked account, maybe? I've tried several accounts and they all give the same result. There's also the fact that FTP and Apache seem to be broken, as well. It could be that your /var filesystem filled up I'm on the console, now. Looks like a swapspace problem... The first terminal is scrolling by the swapspace messages really fast (it kills httpd, but then starts again). I tried logging in on the 2nd and 3rd virtual console, but hangs after I type root - never prompts for password. Is there anything I can do besides rebooting? On that subject... does Ctrl-Alt-Del initiate an orderly shutdown? You can type shutdown -r now on the console, you probably won't see it because of the messages but it will reboot your machine or you can use ctrl+alt+del Check your messages log when it's up again to see what has gone wrong Good luck bas DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0
krad writes: all i can say is your a brave boy 8) A 1 TB+ / slice would take ages to fsck. For ages being less than ten (fifteen ?) minutes on a modern system with reasonable memory ... ... which should be necessary very rarely. Even on my test system, time between involuntary reboots is measured in weeks. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/07/2010 12:44:48, John Almberg wrote: I'm on the console, now. Looks like a swapspace problem... The first terminal is scrolling by the swapspace messages really fast (it kills httpd, but then starts again). I tried logging in on the 2nd and 3rd virtual console, but hangs after I type root - never prompts for password. Is there anything I can do besides rebooting? On that subject... does Ctrl-Alt-Del initiate an orderly shutdown? If you can't log in -- even on the console -- then rebooting is really your only option. Ctrl-Alt-Del should bring the system down cleanly if you haven't disabled that functionality. Otherwise, just toggle the power. The symptoms you're seeing could well be due to filesystem problems or to some filesystem filling up (/tmp is a prime suspect) or due to running out of memory+swap. Some sort of memory leak sounds pretty likely actually. Probably best to bring the system up in single user mode and run fsck on all the filesystems manually -- that will show if you've got h/w problems with drives and possibly with disk controllers or cabling too. Then check for overfull filesystems. You may not find any -- rebooting can clear a number of conditions where disk space is not released back to the OS properly after use. You may or may not find any clues as to what went wrong in the system logs. In the absence of any other clues, the only option is to monitor the server closely and wait for something similar to happen again. Hopefully if there is a next time, you'll be able to catch it and fix the underlying problem before it takes the machine out a second time. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwt1ZkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwRVgCfXTHymgNMOwMN69H5NxwdTUsV OjwAn2TPAgiHgW94+4swodm4mQbKhYIg =iWlM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
On that subject... does Ctrl-Alt-Del initiate an orderly shutdown? If you can't log in -- even on the console -- then rebooting is really your only option. Ctrl-Alt-Del should bring the system down cleanly if you haven't disabled that functionality. Otherwise, just toggle the power. The symptoms you're seeing could well be due to filesystem problems or to some filesystem filling up (/tmp is a prime suspect) or due to running out of memory+swap. Some sort of memory leak sounds pretty likely actually. Probably best to bring the system up in single user mode and run fsck on all the filesystems manually -- that will show if you've got h/w problems with drives and possibly with disk controllers or cabling too. Then check for overfull filesystems. You may not find any -- rebooting can clear a number of conditions where disk space is not released back to the OS properly after use. You may or may not find any clues as to what went wrong in the system logs. In the absence of any other clues, the only option is to monitor the server closely and wait for something similar to happen again. Hopefully if there is a next time, you'll be able to catch it and fix the underlying problem before it takes the machine out a second time. Yes, I can't log in. I get a login prompt, but no password prompt. I'm going to try ctrl-alt-del and see what happens. Crossing fingers... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:33:45 +0100 Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: Is it time for me to start advocating one big partition again? This may not be the consensus view, but I have found that for a quiet life and general lack of botheration it helps to create *only two* partitions on your hard drive: b: Swap -- usually 2x RAM a: Everything else This is perfect bikeshed material: people believe FreeBSD's partitioning scheme is superior to (for example) Linux, and that by dumping everything in a single partition we'd be dumbing it down. I still create separate partitions through paranoia, to avoid corrupting the entire disk if for example /usr/obj is being written to when the power goes out. I don't know if that would happen but I've had too many problem over the years with various filesystems that I don't trust it. With ZFS I've gone even further and created separate filesystems for /usr/src, /usr/ports etc. The output of 'mount' looks somewhat like a Solaris machine now :) I have a task on my TODO list to increase the sizes of the partitions in sysinstall: for example / goes to 1GB, /var to 4GB. I hope to commit the code in the next couple of weeks. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
On 07/02/2010 02:09 PM, John Almberg wrote: On that subject... does Ctrl-Alt-Del initiate an orderly shutdown? If you can't log in -- even on the console -- then rebooting is really your only option. Ctrl-Alt-Del should bring the system down cleanly if you haven't disabled that functionality. Otherwise, just toggle the power. The symptoms you're seeing could well be due to filesystem problems or to some filesystem filling up (/tmp is a prime suspect) or due to running out of memory+swap. Some sort of memory leak sounds pretty likely actually. Probably best to bring the system up in single user mode and run fsck on all the filesystems manually -- that will show if you've got h/w problems with drives and possibly with disk controllers or cabling too. Then check for overfull filesystems. You may not find any -- rebooting can clear a number of conditions where disk space is not released back to the OS properly after use. You may or may not find any clues as to what went wrong in the system logs. In the absence of any other clues, the only option is to monitor the server closely and wait for something similar to happen again. Hopefully if there is a next time, you'll be able to catch it and fix the underlying problem before it takes the machine out a second time. Yes, I can't log in. I get a login prompt, but no password prompt. I'm going to try ctrl-alt-del and see what happens. Crossing fingers... Sorry I missed that you can't login. Good luck DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
If you can't log in -- even on the console -- then rebooting is really your only option. Ctrl-Alt-Del should bring the system down cleanly if you haven't disabled that functionality. Otherwise, just toggle the power. The symptoms you're seeing could well be due to filesystem problems or to some filesystem filling up (/tmp is a prime suspect) or due to running out of memory+swap. Some sort of memory leak sounds pretty likely actually. Probably best to bring the system up in single user mode and run fsck on all the filesystems manually -- that will show if you've got h/w problems with drives and possibly with disk controllers or cabling too. Then check for overfull filesystems. You may not find any -- rebooting can clear a number of conditions where disk space is not released back to the OS properly after use. You may or may not find any clues as to what went wrong in the system logs. In the absence of any other clues, the only option is to monitor the server closely and wait for something similar to happen again. Hopefully if there is a next time, you'll be able to catch it and fix the underlying problem before it takes the machine out a second time. Yes, I can't log in. I get a login prompt, but no password prompt. I'm going to try ctrl-alt-del and see what happens. Crossing fingers... Sorry I missed that you can't login. Good luck So, ctrl-alt-del did the trick. I was able to log in and actually, the whole box came up and everything seems to be working. I thought for sure I'd find that my /var directory was full up, but it's only at 77% (that's the weak spot on this box... I wish I'd made the /var partition bigger.) The message log is full of these messages: 38054 Jul 2 08:13:02 qu kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed If I run swapinfo, I get this: [mas...@qu:log] swapinfo Device 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity /dev/ar0s1b 2055952 208 2055744 0% I looked back in the log file to see if there were any clues when the problem began and found this: Jul 2 03:19:25 qu kernel: swap_pager: out of swap space Jul 2 03:19:26 qu kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace(7): failed Jul 2 03:19:26 qu kernel: pid 93543 (mysqld), uid 88, was killed: out of swap space Jul 2 03:19:26 qu kernel: pid 85077 (ruby18), uid 1023, was killed: out of swap space Jul 2 03:19:25 qu root: Check for bad ssh behavior Jul 2 03:20:05 qu root: Check for bad ssh behavior Jul 2 03:20:49 qu kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed Jul 2 03:20:49 qu kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace(15): failed Jul 2 03:20:49 qu kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace(14): failed Jul 2 03:20:49 qu kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed Jul 2 03:20:49 qu last message repeated 2 times It pretty much goes on forever from there. Is there any other place I can look for clues as to why I ran out of swap space? This machine is basically a webserver, running apache/mysql and ruby on rails. It's been running for over a year with no problems. No new software introduced on the box, recently. -- John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 02:29:54PM -0700, Ed Flecko wrote: Henrik, When I FIRST installed 8.0, I did create a separate /home partition. When I installed the kernel and starting running out of space in / , I thought O.K...I'll let FreeBSD make the partition sizes IT wants to and see if I have the same problem, and I did. Apparently, 512M is just, not, quite big enough so I think I'll try 1G to give me plenty of room. Apparently also 64 bit systems take more room. I didn't notice it was a 64 bit system when I responded yesterday. You might want to jump to 768 MB for root. jerry Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /var/log/messages empty since June 26 :-/
Gilles wrote: Hello On a FreeBSD 6.3 server sitting in a corner of the office not doing much work, I noticed that /var/log/messages was turned over and has been empty since 26 June: # tail /var/log/messages Jun 26 16:00:00 freebsd newsyslog[5320]: logfile turned over due to size100K # ll /var/log/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 78 26 jui 16:00 messages -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel8396 26 jui 16:00 messages.0.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel8329 30 mar 11:00 messages.1.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel8663 2 mar 2009 messages.2.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel9640 20 déc 2008 messages.3.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel6554 17 oct 2008 messages.4.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel5825 17 oct 2008 messages.5.bz2 (jui = June, jul = July) I don't have enough experience with FreeBSD to understand the cause for this, and how to solve it, so would appreciate any suggestion. Thank you. Based on the dates of the messages logs looks like not much is being logged for a whole year at a time. So what you are seeing is normal. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
'file' Command Giving False Positives
I have a data file with the content: LZasdadqjwjqwjqwjeqwe 'file' (incorrectly) reports this as an MS-DOS executable. Does anyone happen to know the proper changes to 'magic' that would fix this? Thanks, -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Bourne .sh ?
Aiza == Aiza aiz...@comclark.com writes: Aiza Wow do I feel stupid. You saw through my question to the underlying problem Aiza causing the need to strip off that stuff. I just changed the command from ls Aiza -l to ls -1 and got what I wanted in the first place. I'm surprised how often -1 is used when not needed. ls is smart, and automatically defaults to -1 if the output isn't a terminal. Consider the difference between: $ ls and $ ls | cat Back in the day, before the boys at Berkeley added multicolumn output, there was a concern that changing the format of `ls` would break a lot of scripts, so they were careful to do it in a backward-compatible mechanism. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0
On 07/02/10 13:13, Bruce Cran wrote: I have a task on my TODO list to increase the sizes of the partitions in sysinstall: for example / goes to 1GB, /var to 4GB. I hope to commit the code in the next couple of weeks. As a matter of idle curiosity with a bit of education thrown in, why 4GB for /var? The last time I installed a new machine I made / 1GB as I'd found out from a previous install that 512MB wasn't really enough, and then decided to make /var bigger than the Handbook said as well and made it 3GB. This has turned out to be total overkill: art...@fileserver df -h /var Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad10s1d2.9G205M2.5G 8%/var I'm sure my use of this machine is very simple and nowhere near as large as other people's but a leap of 4-16 times what it currently suggests in the Handbook seems a bit excessive, especially if people are installing onto older kit. OTOH, playing devil's advocate with myself, disks are huge these days so why not? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Running a script after a device's been plugged
Hi, In order to simplify our managing scripts, my project manager would like to manage all devices (USB and serial) with the same name pattern (cuaa*, cuad*, ... whatever). He explained me he wants to keep cuaa0 and cuaa1, and then link each /dev/da`n` to /dev/cuaa`n + 2`, ... But, there is some things I'm not sure to understand: 1) I though that cuaa was used until FreeBSD7, then we had cuad, and since FreeBSD8, it would be cuaU. But one of our 7.2-RELEASE have both /dev/cuaU0 and dev/cuad0. Did I miss something? What is cuaU doing here? btw. it's my dev server, someone may have touched it. On the servers installed from my generated CDs, no /dev/cuaU* at all... 2) We also provide serial DCF77 modules, and use them with ntpd, linking them /dev/ttyd`n` to /dev/refclock-`n` What is ttyd used for? Can I assume I would use ttyd`n` only with my DCF modules, and so link them to /dev/refclock-`n`, excluding them from my cuaa`n + x` mess? Also, we would have to manage USB DCF77 modules soon; does anybody tried them? How would them be named in /dev? 3) Last but not least, how to link a device once it's plugged in, and unlink it once it's unplugged? We're still providing 5.4 and 6.2 releases based versions. And I do not like hal. So I thought I could use /etc/devd.conf, with attach/detach directives, and their actions calling a script that would create/delete the links. Is there a cleaner way to do it? Would it be still usable in 8.x? (9.x?) Thanks for your time and advices! Samuel Martín Moro {EPITECH.} tek4 CamTrace S.A.S (+033) 1 41 38 37 60 1 Allée de la Venelle 92150 Suresnes FRANCE ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
sysinstall fails when adding distributions
Hi, On FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE (i386) on IBM T43, sysinstall fails when trying to add src distribution to already installed system (when starting to download them from FTP). No network activity is observed. coredump: http://www.ltn.lv/~kristapskulis/sysinstall.core dmesg: http://www.ltn.lv/~kristapskulis/dmesg What I`m doing wrong and how to fix it ? Kristaps Kūlis ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0
Arthur Chance writes: As a matter of idle curiosity with a bit of education thrown in, why 4GB for /var? The last time I installed a new machine I made / 1GB as I'd found out from a previous install that 512MB wasn't really enough, and then decided to make /var bigger than the Handbook said as well and made it 3GB. This has turned out to be total overkill: It is my understanding space used on /var is, well, variable. While a generic system might only use, say, 300 mbytes 99.99 per cent of the time, the other .01 might use 5 or 10 or 20 gbytes if available. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:04:10 +0100 Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote: As a matter of idle curiosity with a bit of education thrown in, why 4GB for /var? The last time I installed a new machine I made / 1GB as I'd found out from a previous install that 512MB wasn't really enough, and then decided to make /var bigger than the Handbook said as well and made it 3GB. This has turned out to be total overkill: art...@fileserver df -h /var Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad10s1d2.9G205M2.5G 8%/var I'm sure my use of this machine is very simple and nowhere near as large as other people's but a leap of 4-16 times what it currently suggests in the Handbook seems a bit excessive, especially if people are installing onto older kit. OTOH, playing devil's advocate with myself, disks are huge these days so why not? I came up with that value based on discussion on IRC. I also thought that portsnap might take up quite a bit more than it actually does. It perhaps doesn't need updated from its current value. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Automated sysinstall install.cfg
TT is there a person who can help me to solve some problems with TT sysinstall and its install.cfg. TT How can i manage that my mfsroot executes custom commands ? Before the installCommit command you generally only have access to statically compiled commands (generally in the /stand directory) from the mfsroot image used. -= example lines in install.cfg # Sleep for 15 seconds to stabilize things. command=/stand/sleep 15 system -= After the installCommit command, a chroot will have occurred to the installation mount point, and you must then use your installed binaries to do work. Specify full paths for everything and note that there are other oddities since not all things are online/configured, so try and keep it as simple as possible. -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 'file' Command Giving False Positives
In the last episode (Jul 02), Tim Daneliuk said: I have a data file with the content: LZasdadqjwjqwjqwjeqwe 'file' (incorrectly) reports this as an MS-DOS executable. I dunno; if I create a file a.exe on my XP system with those contents, I can run it from a cmd prompt, and it doesn't print any errors, so technically it is an MS-DOS executable :) Does anyone happen to know the proper changes to 'magic' that would fix this? Easiest fix would be to remove line 377 from /usr/src/contrib/file/Magdir/msdos and rebuild reinstall /usr/src/lib/libmagic/ . -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Bourne .sh ?
On Jul 02 11:39, Aiza wrote: Chip Camden wrote: On Jul 02 07:43, Aiza wrote: I have a file containing this drwxrwxr-x 14 89987 546 512 Jun 6 2009 7.2-RELEASE drwxrwxr-x 14 89987 546 512 Mar 23 04:59 7.3-RELEASE drwxrwxr-x 13 89987 546 512 Nov 23 2009 8.0-RELEASE drwxrwxr-x 13 89987 546 512 Jul 1 04:56 8.1-RC2 I want to strip off everything to the left of the release version so I end up with this. 7.2-RELEASE 7.3-RELEASE 8.0-RELEASE 8.1-RC2 How would I code to do this? sed -e 's/.* //' file assuming there are no trailing spaces on each line. Another alternative would be to create the list without all that detail: ls -1 Wow do I feel stupid. You saw through my question to the underlying problem causing the need to strip off that stuff. I just changed the command from ls -l to ls -1 and got what I wanted in the first place. Thanks You're welcome. We're all learners here, but the man pages are an excellent resource. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com pgpcdn7z4uN4s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 'file' Command Giving False Positives
Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com writes: I have a data file with the content: LZasdadqjwjqwjqwjeqwe 'file' (incorrectly) reports this as an MS-DOS executable. Why is it incorrect? LZ as the first two bytes in a file is (unless my memory is badly mistaken) exactly what the old command.com looked for as the flag of an executable. Does anyone happen to know the proper changes to 'magic' that would fix this? That would be tricky, given that MS-DOS *would*, in fact, think this file was a valid executable. I don't think the syntax of magic is powerful enough to distinguish this from a real executable. You might be able to do it by adding file(1) support for looking for invalid opcodes, but that would get hairy very quickly... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0
On 07/02/10 15:38, Bruce Cran wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:04:10 +0100 Arthur Chancefree...@qeng-ho.org wrote: As a matter of idle curiosity with a bit of education thrown in, why 4GB for /var? The last time I installed a new machine I made / 1GB as I'd found out from a previous install that 512MB wasn't really enough, and then decided to make /var bigger than the Handbook said as well and made it 3GB. This has turned out to be total overkill: art...@fileserver df -h /var Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad10s1d2.9G205M2.5G 8%/var I'm sure my use of this machine is very simple and nowhere near as large as other people's but a leap of 4-16 times what it currently suggests in the Handbook seems a bit excessive, especially if people are installing onto older kit. OTOH, playing devil's advocate with myself, disks are huge these days so why not? I came up with that value based on discussion on IRC. I also thought that portsnap might take up quite a bit more than it actually does. It perhaps doesn't need updated from its current value. I suspect whoever you were talking to probably has more of a clue than I do. As a quick data point, I just ran portsnap fetch update while another process did a df /var; sleep 1 loop and /var increased by about 30MB at its peak. That was a week after the last port update. I've no idea how much space a portsnap fetch extract would take and would rather not do one right now. Similarly I've no idea how much freebsd-update might take. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Automated sysinstall install.cfg
On 2 July 2010 15:48, Ross we...@connection.ca wrote: TT is there a person who can help me to solve some problems with TT sysinstall and its install.cfg. TT How can i manage that my mfsroot executes custom commands ? Before the installCommit command you generally only have access to statically compiled commands (generally in the /stand directory) from the mfsroot image used. -= example lines in install.cfg # Sleep for 15 seconds to stabilize things. command=/stand/sleep 15 system -= After the installCommit command, a chroot will have occurred to the installation mount point, and you must then use your installed binaries to do work. Specify full paths for everything and note that there are other oddities since not all things are online/configured, so try and keep it as simple as possible. -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Alternatively you could look at the pc-bsd installer. It will do advanced setups very easily, most of which are not possible with sysinstall (geom stuff, zfs etc). It will install standard freebsd, from a variety of formats. With a little tinkering you should be able to detach the installer program from the standard pcbsd image and use your own custom live os on a usb stick. You would then have a lot of power. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 'file' Command Giving False Positives
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:25:20 -0400, Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: Why is it incorrect? LZ as the first two bytes in a file is (unless my memory is badly mistaken) exactly what the old command.com looked for as the flag of an executable. If I ask *my* memory, it tells me that what you mean is MZ. As far as I remember, those are the initials of a programmer involved with the creation of the DOS binary executable format. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 'file' Command Giving False Positives
On 7/2/2010 10:35 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:25:20 -0400, Lowell Gilbertfreebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: Why is it incorrect? LZ as the first two bytes in a file is (unless my memory is badly mistaken) exactly what the old command.com looked for as the flag of an executable. If I ask *my* memory, it tells me that what you mean is MZ. As far as I remember, those are the initials of a programmer involved with the creation of the DOS binary executable format. :-) Some OSs report both LZ and MZ as being DOS .exe, some only report LZ. Either way, when processing data files, there needs to be a deeper check to avoid the false positive. It may be that 'file' just isn't powerful enough to do this. -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 'file' Command Giving False Positives
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 05:35:04PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:25:20 -0400, Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: Why is it incorrect? LZ as the first two bytes in a file is (unless my memory is badly mistaken) exactly what the old command.com looked for as the flag of an executable. If I ask *my* memory, it tells me that what you mean is MZ. As far as I remember, those are the initials of a programmer involved with the creation of the DOS binary executable format. :-) MZ is indeed what an MS-DOS style .EXE file should start with. For an MS-DOS .COM file there is no header or other metadata in the file so there is no good way of distinguishing it from any other binary file. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Bourne .sh ?
Aiza aiz...@comclark.com writes: I have a file containing this drwxrwxr-x 14 89987 546 512 Jun 6 2009 7.2-RELEASE drwxrwxr-x 14 89987 546 512 Mar 23 04:59 7.3-RELEASE drwxrwxr-x 13 89987 546 512 Nov 23 2009 8.0-RELEASE drwxrwxr-x 13 89987 546 512 Jul 1 04:56 8.1-RC2 I want to strip off everything to the left of the release version so I end up with this. 7.2-RELEASE 7.3-RELEASE 8.0-RELEASE 8.1-RC2 How would I code to do this? Use... - glob expansion + echo builtin, e.g. $ cd /path/to/blah echo * or $ cd /path/to/blah for f in *; do echo $f; done - field splitting, e.g. $ ls -l | while read $(while [ $((i+=1)) -le 9 ]; do echo p$i; done); do echo $p9; done - stat(1) if you need not only filename but e.g. date Of course you can use smth like cut/sed/awk/whatever but they'll only make your script slower if you use them often. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sysinstall fails when adding distributions
This has been fixed. Get a newer RC. -- randi On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Kristaps Kūlis kristaps.ku...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE (i386) on IBM T43, sysinstall fails when trying to add src distribution to already installed system (when starting to download them from FTP). No network activity is observed. coredump: http://www.ltn.lv/~kristapskulis/sysinstall.core dmesg: http://www.ltn.lv/~kristapskulis/dmesg What I`m doing wrong and how to fix it ? Kristaps Kūlis ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Convert all packages to ports
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 317, Issue 9, Message: 26 On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:52:54 -0400 Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/1/10 5:58 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Glen Barberglen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Once ports or packages are installed, there is no differentiation to the system. Interesting. If this is true, then I can just start upgrading my 'pkg_add' installed packages using ports and eventually they will all be converted over to 'make'. The only difference is that a package is a port built with its default options. Sometimes that might not be suitable and you'll want to make it with other options. One way to tell if something was installed by making a port is that /var/db/ports will contain a directory for that port with the file 'options', created or updated by 'make config'. However, your comment seems to be in disagreement with online warnings of do not mix 'pkg_add' packages with 'make' ports. portmaster will deinstall and reinstall (and I believe rollback if something blows up). You are correct - don't mix ports and packages. I don't know where these 'do not mix ports and packages' warnings come from, but I suspect it's from people who think that they're different :) If you like to run portsnap followed by portupgrade or portmaster every morning before breakfast, then yes, you might have to wait a day or two now and again, for the package build systems to catch up with a freshly upgraded port. Except when building a new set of release packages for all architectures - like soon with 8.1-RELEASE a'coming - there's not usually much delay in package building these days. And it's not true that packages are only built for releases; any port that doesn't have (eg) distribution restrictions on binary packages will find its way into the queue on the package build systems, and update the Latest/ package, after every update. My original question's intention was to prevent me from having a system where some packages were installed with 'pkg_add' while others were installed with 'make'. portmaster is probably the easiest road to get you there. Sure, or portupgrade. I think both have -P switches to use packages rather than make from source where the matching package is available, which is pretty handy on less than awesome boxes for Big Things like Xorg, KDE and the like .. not to mention Java .. cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Re: Convert all packages to ports
Please let me add this: On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 03:37:14 +1000 (EST), Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: The only difference is that a package is a port built with its default options. Sometimes that might not be suitable and you'll want to make it with other options. One way to tell if something was installed by making a port is that /var/db/ports will contain a directory for that port with the file 'options', created or updated by 'make config'. A package is a precompiled port - as you said correctly, using the default options for that port. Nothing more or less. It *is* that simple. :-) I don't know where these 'do not mix ports and packages' warnings come from, but I suspect it's from people who think that they're different :) I think it may have come from PC-BSD, taking into mind their PBI system, like do not mix PBI with ports or packages. :-) And it's not true that packages are only built for releases; any port that doesn't have (eg) distribution restrictions on binary packages will find its way into the queue on the package build systems, and update the Latest/ package, after every update. Correct again. Packages are updated regularly (with the corresponding port's default options), but it may (!) be interesting to incorporate daily changes of the ports tree and keep the own installed software up-to-date, in an absolutely bleeding-edge state. Personally, there are only few ports that I really want or need to install via ports. Specific optimization, e. g. due to limited hardware resources, as well as for example codecs to include (I'm talking about mencoder / mplayer here), or the pure absence of precompiled packages (like OpenOffice) requires this. My original question's intention was to prevent me from having a system where some packages were installed with 'pkg_add' while others were installed with 'make'. portmaster is probably the easiest road to get you there. Sure, or portupgrade. The portupgrade set of tools also included pkgdb. If you plan to mix several methods of installing (e. g. portinstall, make install, pkg_add -r), use # pkgdb -aF before and after you installed (or removed) something. This will keep portupgrade's database up to date, so it takes into mind when you *didn't* use it to install (or remove) something. I think both have -P switches to use packages rather than make from source where the matching package is available, which is pretty handy on less than awesome boxes for Big Things like Xorg, KDE and the like .. not to mention Java .. Or OpenOffice, where this won't work. :-) But you're correct: For portinstall / portupgrade, -P (use package) and -PP (use packages only) can be used, and will also affect how to deal with dependencies. Finally, portinstall / portupgrade allow you to create a package from a port you've just installed, see -p in the manual. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Convert all packages to ports
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/07/2010 18:57:11, Polytropon wrote: I don't know where these 'do not mix ports and packages' warnings come from, but I suspect it's from people who think that they're different :) I think it may have come from PC-BSD, taking into mind their PBI system, like do not mix PBI with ports or packages. :-) Mostly, I believe, this comes from what tends to happen if you try and install downloaded packages onto a machine that has previously been maintained by building ports. Especially when the downloaded package is a big lump (hence very attractive to download something precompiled) with lots of dependencies (Danger, Will Robinson!). Chances are one or more of the packages already installed are dependencies of the big lump. Not only that: they are quite likely to be more recent versions than what the big lump was compiled against. This will result in alarm and despondency amongst those less well versed in the subtle art of beating the ports system into submission. The really unlucky people will find that they have dependency shlibs with a more recent ABI version than what the big lump was compiled against. In this case, there's nothing for it but to grit the teeth; gird up the loins; make plenty of hot, strong, black coffee and start compiling. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwuLYUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxMBgCfWTmcMv9/f4th5C2rFY18KKDk oNQAnApdwysxmPO8SYgePN2+POJd+Zz/ =cvqU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 'file' Command Giving False Positives
Polytropon free...@edvax.de writes: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:25:20 -0400, Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: Why is it incorrect? LZ as the first two bytes in a file is (unless my memory is badly mistaken) exactly what the old command.com looked for as the flag of an executable. If I ask *my* memory, it tells me that what you mean is MZ. As far as I remember, those are the initials of a programmer involved with the creation of the DOS binary executable format. :-) Apparently, your memory is better than mine, because that was indeed what I was thinking of. Which leads to the question of why magic(5) lists LZ as representing MS-DOS executable (built-in). I'd be hesitant to change that unless we knew for sure it was wrong. Even if it _is_ wrong, the problem still remains for MZ at least: Any file starting with those letters is going to be identified as an MS-DOS executable, and there's no clear way to distinguish it from a text file that happens to start with those letters. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 'file' Command Giving False Positives
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:23:24 -0400, Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: Apparently, your memory is better than mine, because that was indeed what I was thinking of. Which leads to the question of why magic(5) lists LZ as representing MS-DOS executable (built-in). I'd be hesitant to change that unless we knew for sure it was wrong. As it has been mentioned before, .EXE is *one* of the formats executable in DOS. .COM executables do not have specific headers (as they are loaded directly). Also, .BAT are executable, allthough they are text files, and finally .BTM are also text file executables, specific to NDOS. As far as I also remember, there's .EXE on OS/2, too. One could argue if Windows .PIF are also executables. Of course, VMS also has .COM... but I see I'm making a digression... :-) Even if it _is_ wrong, the problem still remains for MZ at least: Any file starting with those letters is going to be identified as an MS-DOS executable, and there's no clear way to distinguish it from a text file that happens to start with those letters. Well, there's a solution that is not *that* complicated: If the file contains characters that don't match isprint(), i. e. those outside the ASCII set used in real text files, it's likely to be an executable. A scriptable solution might be to diff filename vs. `strings filename`. If they differ, it's not a text, so it might be an executable. I'm not sure if the magic identification string starting with MZ could be enlarged with other specific characters immediately following MZ that are *only* present in executables... The problem is that MZ itself is completely sufficient: % echo MZ foo % file foo foo: MS-DOS executable Of course, that's not correct. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Re: 'file' Command Giving False Positives
On 7/2/2010 1:42 PM, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:23:24 -0400, Lowell Gilbertfreebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: Apparently, your memory is better than mine, because that was indeed what I was thinking of. Which leads to the question of why magic(5) lists LZ as representing MS-DOS executable (built-in). I'd be hesitant to change that unless we knew for sure it was wrong. As it has been mentioned before, .EXE is *one* of the formats executable in DOS. .COM executables do not have specific headers (as they are loaded directly). Also, .BAT are executable, allthough they are text files, and finally .BTM are also text file executables, specific to NDOS. As far as I also remember, there's .EXE on OS/2, too. One could argue if Windows .PIF are also executables. Of course, VMS also has .COM... but I see I'm making a digression... :-) Even if it _is_ wrong, the problem still remains for MZ at least: Any file starting with those letters is going to be identified as an MS-DOS executable, and there's no clear way to distinguish it from a text file that happens to start with those letters. Well, there's a solution that is not *that* complicated: If the file contains characters that don't match isprint(), i. e. those outside the ASCII set used in real text files, it's likely to be an executable. A scriptable solution might be to difffilename vs. `strings filename`. If they differ, it's not a text, so it might be an executable. I'm not sure if the magic identification string starting with MZ could be enlarged with other specific characters immediately following MZ that are *only* present in executables... The problem is that MZ itself is completely sufficient: % echo MZ foo % file foo foo: MS-DOS executable Of course, that's not correct. All noted (and appreciated). In this case, the client has a situation where none of the above will work: They can take in encrypted files that happen to have an MZ/LZ at the beginning but have binary data thereafter but are NOT executables. They want to properly flag executables but not get false positives. At this point, I'm inclined to believe that 'file' alone is insufficient to do this and, at best - even with more tools - it's going to be a probabilities game - i.e. What percentage of false positives is acceptable? -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Staying up to date with security patches
Hi folks, I've carefully read many different sources about keeping FreeBSD up to date, and I'm not quite crystal-clear. I'm building a server with 8.0, and because it's a server, it will have very little software installed on it (probably Apache, maybe BIND, etc.), and my primary concern is that it's stable and secure from a patching perspective (I'll work on hardening the OS later). Since I will be doing a custom kernel at some point, I won't use freebsd-update, I'm using cvsup instead. If I understand the docs correctly, I want my supfile (in my case, I'm simply modifying stable-supfile) file to have an entry like: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8_0 1.) The _0 will keep me up to date with the security patches, which is what I'm after, right? 2.) How often should one synchronize your server (PC, etc.)? You don't need to do it daily with cron, do you? I've subscribed to the FreeBSD security update list, so that's probably the only time one really needs to synchronize, rebuild, etc., isn't it? 3.) What's the smartest way to keep your installed applications updated (i.e., Apache, BIND, etc.)? 4.) Finally, where's the best URL to scour past FreeBSD posts/answers? Thank you! Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Staying up to date with security patches
In response to Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com: Hi folks, I've carefully read many different sources about keeping FreeBSD up to date, and I'm not quite crystal-clear. I'm building a server with 8.0, and because it's a server, it will have very little software installed on it (probably Apache, maybe BIND, etc.), and my primary concern is that it's stable and secure from a patching perspective (I'll work on hardening the OS later). Since I will be doing a custom kernel at some point, I won't use freebsd-update, I'm using cvsup instead. If I understand the docs correctly, I want my supfile (in my case, I'm simply modifying stable-supfile) file to have an entry like: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8_0 1.) The _0 will keep me up to date with the security patches, which is what I'm after, right? Yes 2.) How often should one synchronize your server (PC, etc.)? You don't need to do it daily with cron, do you? I've subscribed to the FreeBSD security update list, so that's probably the only time one really needs to synchronize, rebuild, etc., isn't it? You only need to sync and rebuild when a security problem is announced via that mailing list. 3.) What's the smartest way to keep your installed applications updated (i.e., Apache, BIND, etc.)? Install ports-mgmt/portaudit and run it daily (I believe it installs so that it will email you daily results as part of periodic) and when it tells you that one of your installed ports is out of date, take care of it. There's no schedule. Because, despite what MS would have PHB's believe, security problems are not found on any schedule, they're found whenever they're found. Thus, your best approach is to monitor and be proactive. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Fwd: Staying up to date with security patches
Thanks Bill! :-) How will I know if there have been security updates that have been released (which means I need to sync rebuild) since I've installed the O.S.? For example, I'm running 8.0, and I'll bet there's been security releases since I first installed. Or...should you just get in the habit of syncing / updating after you install any particular release? Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fwd: Staying up to date with security patches
In response to Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com: How will I know if there have been security updates that have been released (which means I need to sync rebuild) since I've installed the O.S.? For example, I'm running 8.0, and I'll bet there's been security releases since I first installed. Or...should you just get in the habit of syncing / updating after you install any particular release? http://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories.html -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fwd: Staying up to date with security patches
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 01:13:24PM -0700, Ed Flecko wrote: Thanks Bill! :-) How will I know if there have been security updates that have been released (which means I need to sync rebuild) since I've installed the O.S.? For example, I'm running 8.0, and I'll bet there's been security releases since I first installed. Or...should you just get in the habit of syncing / updating after you install any particular release? Sign up on the freebsd-announce list. There may be a couple of other lists of interest to such as bugs and freebsd-security-notifications See the handbook at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL jerry Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fwd: Staying up to date with security patches
Thank you again. After doing a sync/rebuild, does FreeBSD keep a log (somewhere) that actually shows which security patches have been applied? Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 'file' Command Giving False Positives
Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com writes: At this point, I'm inclined to believe that 'file' alone is insufficient to do this and, at best - even with more tools - it's going to be a probabilities game - i.e. What percentage of false positives is acceptable? file(1) is only intended to be a set of heuristics. It has a remarkably good set of heuristics at this point, but you're right that this cannot be solved simply by analyzing the contents of the files. For use in a system that you expect to scale, you will always be better off keeping meta-data in some other form (if you can, which is frequently not possible). If the whole data path is under your (customer's) control, it's not so hard; you can use file names, or put every file into a tar file along with a text file that indicates the data type, and on and on through as many approaches as you have the time to dream up. [If my examples are unclear, I can expand on them to make the point better.] This is made considerably worse by the fact that you've said that your files are encrypted. Some forms of encryption store some meta-data at a known place (like first) in the file, but generally this won't be the case. Now consider that there is a finite chance of running into a combination of cleartext, encryption, and password that you end up with an encrypted file that happens to have exactly the same contents as /bin/ls (it's vanishingly unlikely that this exact scenario would happen, but it's a good illustration of the problem). All of which is just agreeing with your suggestion that it's a probabilities game of reducing the error rate to acceptability; UNLESS you can control some other source of information. For an example of the latter, I have a backup file from this morning, named be-well.100702._usr.l2.dump.gz.idea. If the files are coming in from the outside (untrustworthy input), you can't do this. One thing you *could* do in that case is use a custom magic(5) file for this application. You may well not care about input that really is an MS-DOS executable, so you can remove the patterns for all of them. Or AmigaOS, or laser printer firmware, or... Anyway, good luck. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Staying up to date with security patches
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 04:03:01PM -0400, Bill Moran thus spake: In response to Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com: Hi folks, I've carefully read many different sources about keeping FreeBSD up to date, and I'm not quite crystal-clear. I'm building a server with 8.0, and because it's a server, it will have very little software installed on it (probably Apache, maybe BIND, etc.), and my primary concern is that it's stable and secure from a patching perspective (I'll work on hardening the OS later). Since I will be doing a custom kernel at some point, I won't use freebsd-update, I'm using cvsup instead. You can build your own update server based off of your custom kernel. I've been running one for awhile now, and it works great. As long as your ISO contains your kernel, it will work. http://www.freebsdgr.org/all/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-update-server/ If I understand the docs correctly, I want my supfile (in my case, I'm simply modifying stable-supfile) file to have an entry like: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8_0 1.) The _0 will keep me up to date with the security patches, which is what I'm after, right? Yes 2.) How often should one synchronize your server (PC, etc.)? You don't need to do it daily with cron, do you? I've subscribed to the FreeBSD security update list, so that's probably the only time one really needs to synchronize, rebuild, etc., isn't it? You only need to sync and rebuild when a security problem is announced via that mailing list. 3.) What's the smartest way to keep your installed applications updated (i.e., Apache, BIND, etc.)? Install ports-mgmt/portaudit and run it daily (I believe it installs so that it will email you daily results as part of periodic) and when it tells you that one of your installed ports is out of date, take care of it. There's no schedule. Because, despite what MS would have PHB's believe, security problems are not found on any schedule, they're found whenever they're found. Thus, your best approach is to monitor and be proactive. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -jgh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Subject: pf: pass in quick to port 25 still getting some blocks
setting up pf on fbsd 7.2 for host security on a mail gateway. the only rule for port 25 is: pass in quick on em0 inet proto tcp from any to $ext_if port = smtp flags S/SA keep state and then last rule: block drop in log on em0 inet from any to $ext_if while 1000s of connections to port 25 are getting through with the pass rule, several 100 connections are getting blocked with the default block rule, bypassing the pass rule. I can't see how pf is selecting these connections to be blocked. thanks Len ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Staying up to date with security patches
On Friday 02 July 2010, Ed Flecko wrote: Since I will be doing a custom kernel at some point, I won't use freebsd-update, I'm using cvsup instead. The alternative would be to just use the source code patches from the security-advisories mailing list. That way you don't have to rebuild the whole base system each time, though some of the patches will require the kernel to be rebuilt. -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
KDE post-install steps
Installation instructions for GNOME and KDE: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q1 http://freebsd.kde.org/instructions.php GNOME: 1. cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2, make install clean 2. Add 'gnome_enable=YES' to rc.conf KDE: 1. cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4, make install clean 2. [none listed] Q: Does KDE installation have a Step 2? Thank you, Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: KDE post-install steps
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:21:31 -0700 (PDT), Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@yahoo.com wrote: Q: Does KDE installation have a Step 2? I think KDE also relies on DBUS and HAL (which need to be installed and enabled via /etc/rc.conf), and activating the KDE login manager for X (kdm) requires an entry in /etc/ttys similar to the one that is suggested for Gnome; if it's not desired, use startkde (I think it is the correct name, or startkde4 maybe) in ~/.xinitrc or in ~/.xsession respectively. And a general note: The Step 2 does not belong to the installation, it already belongs to configuration (i. e. enabling the just installed piece of software). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Same priority pf/altq queues not supported?
Hello all, I'm configuring pf on FreeBSD 7.3 and would like to use the following altq settings: altq on $ext priq bandwidth 9240Kb queue {low, red, med, top} altq on {$int1, $int2, $srv} priq bandwidth 100Mb queue {low, red, med, top} queue low priority 1 priq(default) # Default priority queue queue red priority 1 priq(red) # Default priority TCP queue with RED queue med priority 2# DNS, DHCP, ACKs, and TOS == lowdelay queue top priority 3# ICMP, NTP When I try to load these settings, I get the following errors: pfctl: low and red have the same priority pfctl: low and red have the same priority pfctl: low and red have the same priority pfctl: low and red have the same priority /etc/pf.conf:79: errors in queue definition OpenBSD 4.1 documentation states that if two or more queues are assigned the same priority then those queues are processed in a round-robin fashion. Is there any specific reason why this behavior was altered in the FreeBSD port? I'm not really sure of what to do, because I don't want to prioritize or deprioritize TCP traffic, and I can't have RED enabled for any other protocol. If you have any other general-purpose queuing suggestions, please let me know. - Max ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Getting kernel trap 12 During Boot Of 8.1-PRERELEASE
I've seen this twice now - once last Sunday, and once again today when I tried to do a build/installworld/kernel with daily sources from the master tree: http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=qmhizdtnhyothumb=4 The system boots fine single-user, so I don't suspect the base kernel functionality. Falling back to my 6-18-2010 system image makes everything right again. MOBO is an Intel D946GZIS with a single SATA drive and one additional 3Com 3c905 NIC in addition to the onboard Intel NIC. Anyone else seeing this. Ideas? -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: KDE post-install steps
--- On Fri, 7/2/10, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: I think KDE also relies on DBUS and HAL Ok and activating the KDE login manager for X (kdm) requires an entry in /etc/ttys similar to the one that is suggested for Gnome; GNOME installation docs suggest adding gnome_enable=YES to rc.conf. There is no suggestion regarding /etc/ttys. (I think it is the correct name, or startkde4 maybe) Ok With respect from someone who wants to get it right and not be dependent on the mailing list, I have a question: The KDE installation page make does not describe: - rc.conf entries, if any - tty settings, if any - KDM start procedures, if any - the name of the .xinitrc command to start KDE, if any Does this mean: a) KDE setup is obvious and I am dumb for not knowing b) I didn't read the man page well enough c) KDE is meant for power users, I should stick with GNOME. d) [your idea here] And a general note: The Step 2 does not belong to the installation, it already belongs to configuration (i. e. enabling the just installed piece of software). I see. Maybe e) I'm looking in the wrong place. Read the docs on KDE configuration not KDE installation. Thank you all for helping me these last few days, Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Subject: pf: pass in quick to port 25 still getting some blocks
On 7/2/10 5:25 PM, Len Conrad wrote: setting up pf on fbsd 7.2 for host security on a mail gateway. the only rule for port 25 is: pass in quick on em0 inet proto tcp from any to $ext_if port = smtp flags S/SA keep state and then last rule: block drop in log on em0 inet from any to $ext_if while 1000s of connections to port 25 are getting through with the pass rule, several 100 connections are getting blocked with the default block rule, bypassing the pass rule. I can't see how pf is selecting these connections to be blocked. In what sense are the packets that are getting blocked part of a connection? Are you sure the blocked packets are actually a legitimate first packet, with the appropriate flags set, or is the flags S/SA portion of your rule not matching? -- --Jon Radel j...@radel.com
Re: Same priority pf/altq queues not supported?
On 3 July 2010 00:05, Maxim Khitrov mkhit...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I'm configuring pf on FreeBSD 7.3 and would like to use the following altq settings: altq on $ext priq bandwidth 9240Kb queue {low, red, med, top} altq on {$int1, $int2, $srv} priq bandwidth 100Mb queue {low, red, med, top} queue low priority 1 priq(default) # Default priority queue queue red priority 1 priq(red) # Default priority TCP queue with RED queue med priority 2# DNS, DHCP, ACKs, and TOS == lowdelay queue top priority 3# ICMP, NTP When I try to load these settings, I get the following errors: pfctl: low and red have the same priority pfctl: low and red have the same priority pfctl: low and red have the same priority pfctl: low and red have the same priority /etc/pf.conf:79: errors in queue definition OpenBSD 4.1 documentation states that if two or more queues are assigned the same priority then those queues are processed in a round-robin fashion. Is there any specific reason why this behavior was altered in the FreeBSD port? I'm not really sure of what to do, because I don't want to prioritize or deprioritize TCP traffic, and I can't have RED enabled for any other protocol. If you have any other general-purpose queuing suggestions, please let me know. - Max ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org check the version of pf in freebsd compared to openbsd, as they are not always in sync ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Same priority pf/altq queues not supported?
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:17 PM, krad kra...@googlemail.com wrote: On 3 July 2010 00:05, Maxim Khitrov mkhit...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I'm configuring pf on FreeBSD 7.3 and would like to use the following altq settings: altq on $ext priq bandwidth 9240Kb queue {low, red, med, top} altq on {$int1, $int2, $srv} priq bandwidth 100Mb queue {low, red, med, top} queue low priority 1 priq(default) # Default priority queue queue red priority 1 priq(red) # Default priority TCP queue with RED queue med priority 2 # DNS, DHCP, ACKs, and TOS == lowdelay queue top priority 3 # ICMP, NTP When I try to load these settings, I get the following errors: pfctl: low and red have the same priority pfctl: low and red have the same priority pfctl: low and red have the same priority pfctl: low and red have the same priority /etc/pf.conf:79: errors in queue definition OpenBSD 4.1 documentation states that if two or more queues are assigned the same priority then those queues are processed in a round-robin fashion. Is there any specific reason why this behavior was altered in the FreeBSD port? I'm not really sure of what to do, because I don't want to prioritize or deprioritize TCP traffic, and I can't have RED enabled for any other protocol. If you have any other general-purpose queuing suggestions, please let me know. - Max check the version of pf in freebsd compared to openbsd, as they are not always in sync I'm aware of this. FreeBSD 7.3 should be using pf from OpenBSD 4.1: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/firewalls-pf.html#AEN39617 - Max ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem using Portmaster to upgrade installed ports via packages only
Apologies for not answering sooner ... On 06/29/10 13:37, Alexandre L. wrote: I have done tests last days, and now I can set PACKAGESITE correctly in user's .cshrc (I have unset the parameter in root's .cshrc). Else, I have set /usr/local/etc/portmaster.rc, as described in the portmaster's manpage. Here my /usr/local/etc/portmaster.rc PM_SU_VERBOSE= It's not necessary in shell scripting to set empty variables like this. That's particularly true for the flag variables in portmaster rc files. If the variable isn't actually set to something then what you have here is exactly the same (to portmaster) as if you had not included it at all. PM_SU_CMD=/usr/local/bin/sudo This is fine, assuming that you want to be able to type 'portmaster ...' as a non-root user and have it be able to do things that usually require root privileges. However, there are a lot of other things that need to be done to set that up. They are not difficult, but the details matter. Please look closely at the section about this in the portmaster man page for more details. I don't know (or understand) if I have to set a value to PM_SU_VERBOSE That depends on your goal. Why are you setting this? I have tried to set PM_SU_VERBOSE=/usr/local/bin/sudo without success If you can help me here, I have read the manpage hundred times, but haven't found where I am wrong. Please copy and paste the parts of the man page that are confusing. That will help me improve it. Then I have tried without the line PM_SU_VERBOSE, just with PM_SU_CMD=/usr/local/bin/sudo I can install without problem packages with $ portmaster -P -a -x openoffice But if there is no package available for the port, I got the message (it is an example) : = libpng-1.4.3.tar.xz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles//. = /usr/ports/distfiles/ is not writable by you; cannot fetch. That tells me that you haven't followed the instructions in the man page for setting up your environment for sudo. So once again, if there are specific parts of the man page that you find confusing, let me know what they are so that I can improve it. Meanwhile, you might also consider simply running portmaster as root. There is nothing preferable about running it with sudo, it is a feature that I added because users so often requested it. hope this helps, Doug -- ... and that's just a little bit of history repeating. -- Propellerheads Improve the effectiveness of your Internet presence with a domain name makeover!http://SupersetSolutions.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: KDE post-install steps
--- On Fri, 7/2/10, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@yahoo.com wrote: KDE: 1. cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4, make install clean 2. [none listed] Q: Does KDE installation have a Step 2? 2. Add these lines to ~/.xinitrc: PATH=/usr/local/kde4/bin:$PATH export PATH startkde4 3. Use 'startx' to launch KDE. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: KDE post-install steps
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@yahoo.comwrote: --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: I think KDE also relies on DBUS and HAL Ok and activating the KDE login manager for X (kdm) requires an entry in /etc/ttys similar to the one that is suggested for Gnome; GNOME installation docs suggest adding gnome_enable=YES to rc.conf. There is no suggestion regarding /etc/ttys. (I think it is the correct name, or startkde4 maybe) Ok With respect from someone who wants to get it right and not be dependent on the mailing list, I have a question: The KDE installation page make does not describe: - rc.conf entries, if any - tty settings, if any - KDM start procedures, if any - the name of the .xinitrc command to start KDE, if any Does this mean: a) KDE setup is obvious and I am dumb for not knowing b) I didn't read the man page well enough c) KDE is meant for power users, I should stick with GNOME. d) [your idea here] And a general note: The Step 2 does not belong to the installation, it already belongs to configuration (i. e. enabling the just installed piece of software). I see. Maybe e) I'm looking in the wrong place. Read the docs on KDE configuration not KDE installation. Thank you all for helping me these last few days, What you should be doing is following the freebsd handbook, it's specifically written for these types of issues. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x11-wm.html -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
help me port php to C?
guys, i have a php function, over 40 lines with comments that i'd like help porting to C. i intend to integrate a C++ function that i've already ported to C. this stuff involved with determining what a sentence is ... or making a best-guess; i think it's worth it. there are a few php calls i'm not clear on. offline, please. gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: KDE post-install steps
Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@yahoo.com writes: Installation instructions for GNOME and KDE: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q1 http://freebsd.kde.org/instructions.php GNOME: 1. cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2, make install clean 2. Add 'gnome_enable=YES' to rc.conf KDE: 1. cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4, make install clean 2. [none listed] Q: Does KDE installation have a Step 2? Others have mentioned ways of enabling KDE4, but I just added the following two lines to /etc/rc.conf: local_startup=/usr/local/etc/rc.d /usr/local/kde4/etc/rc.d kdm4_enable=YES Or you can omit the local_startup line if you do a: ln -s /usr/local/kde4/etc/rc.d/kde4 /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ The local_startup wouldn't be necessary if the startup script were put in /usr/local/etc/rc.d where it should be. -- Carl Johnsonca...@peak.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: KDE post-install steps
--- On Fri, 7/2/10, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: What you should be doing is following the freebsd handbook, it's specifically written for these types of issues. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x11-wm.html Adam, Thank you. I started out with the handbook but before I reached section 5.7.2.2, wandered to the FreeBSD Projects: GNOME page, then to FreeBSD Projects: KDE. I should have headed back to the handbook. Thank you, Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
freebsd-update and jails
If I run freebsd-update on the host updating to 8.0-RELEASE-p3 and then run it again with the -b option pointing to the directory tree of the jail, I get message saying no update needed to update system to 8.0-RELEASE-p3. I know the directory tree jail is at 8.0-RELEASE. If I start a jail and login to its console, I can run freebsd-update fetch and it downloads stuff. So it knows the system is not at p3 level. But when I run the freebsd-update install, I get error saying all the files it wants to touch are read only permission. Just like the jail is suppose to do. Looks like freebsd is inspecting the host to determine what RELEASE it's at and NOT the system at the -b option. Am I doing some thing wrong? Is this maybe a bug? Help please. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org