Re: What is the meaning of this warn?
On 07/26/2010 07:48, Jason wrote: HI,ALL: Hello, My freebsd server offer service to thousands of clients. I found lots of warning in the /var/log/message like this :Approaching the limit on PV entries, consider increasing either the vm.pmap.shpgperproc or the vm.pmap.pv_entry_max tunable You probably have a lot of processes which use shared memory ..? Enabling superpages (vm.pmap.pg_ps_enabled=1 in loader.conf) should resolve the problem (superpages have been added in 7.2) My question is : 1.what is the meaning of PV? 2.Although there are lots of this warning,my server works still well. Could someone explain the meaning of this warning ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I donot like using mergemaster ?
On Monday 26 July 2010, zaxis wrote: I want to upgrade my freebsd 8.0 to 8.1. I have read all the steps about upgrading freebsd. I feel mergemaster is difficult to use e.g. which parameters should i use ? (you may wish to use -U or -ai or -Fi) I have the following in /etc/mergemaster.rc instead of having to remember the command line options each time: # Install the new file if it differs only by VCS Id (-F) FREEBSD_ID=yes # # Automatically upgrade files that have not been user modified (-U) AUTO_UPGRADE=yes # # Automatically install files not on the system already (-i) AUTO_INSTALL=yes # # Preserve files that you replace PRESERVE_FILES=yes # # Delete stale files in /etc/rc.d without prompting DELETE_STALE_RC_FILES=yes # # Compare /etc/rc.conf[.local] to /etc/defaults/rc.conf (-C) COMP_CONFS=yes # ## # The following options have no command line overrides ## # # Files to always avoid comparing IGNORE_FILES='/etc/motd /etc/printcap' # # Additional options for diff. This will get unset when using -s. DIFF_OPTIONS='-Bb' # Ignore changes in whitespace -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:20:31AM -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote: On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:29:37AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: Without downloading a PDF and reading it . . . do you know what Latin variant is used in that document? No, without download and reading the PDF I wouldn't know what Latin variant is used in that document. :-) Since it was only a 39K file, there was no reason for me to worry about downloading it. I meant Can you tell me the answer to this question so I don't have to download it then see if I can figure it out? Is it classical, church, or scientifically bastardized Latin (for instance)? I'm curious. Yes, to all of the above. It has a chart showing a few pronunciations including classical which it describes as the reconstructed ancient pronunciation. It even includes an English method which is basically pronouncing Latin words as if they were English words. Okay, thanks. That answers my question, and makes me want to actually download the thing. I know that in at least some contexts the Latin pronunciation is more dee than dai for daemon, and that dee is the pronunciation generally considered correct for server processes in Unix systems. Beyond that, it's entirely possible there are other pronunciations of which I am not aware -- though I'm pretty sure day is solely an artifact of people trying to figure out how to pronounce terms that contain the ae (or the æ ligature) without actually trying to look it up. The above document describes ae in classical pronunciation as like ai in aisle and in all other pronunciations like Latin ē. It describes Latin ē in all pronunciations, except the English method, as like a in plate. Going by the above the first syllable of daemon could be pronounced like day. That's rather contrary to what I had learned (which is, admittedly, not a whole lot). I'll give the document a look. Thanks. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpKIYGQTU8sf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BSD logo
On 7/24/10 5:59 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:05:14AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: I'm reminded that the SATAN network scanner project used to ship a utility with the source code that would patch it to rename it SANTA. I suppose someone could fork a new BSD distribution with an angel for a logo, to mollify these sorts of people. Call it BlessedBSD (BleSseD?) or something. ;) By the way . . . while I think a BelssedBSD fork is a ridiculous idea, the name BlessedBSD is *brilliant*. Pronouncing it aloud makes the high-quality pun buried in the name more obvious, for those who didn't quite catch it on the first read-through. i agree. lovely name. the pagan connection is delectable. http://is.gd/dJRn3 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On 7/23/10 10:01 PM, Victor Skovorodnikov vic...@mail.ru wrote: I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get deterred by its un-Christian logo. to me, devils, daemons and demons are mythological critters like elves, pixies and bogey men. Have you considered changing it to something else? Doesn't have to be an angel, but perhaps something neutral ;-) ? everyone is free to interpret the image as the please. there are alternatives for anyone who, after due study of the horned cartoon character, concludes that freebsd is blasphemous. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
8.1-RELEASE ia64
Hi I would like to install FreeBSD-8.1 ia64, so I downloaded FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-ia64-disc1.iso. When I boot from a burnt CD, the screen keeps black, with the blinkingunderscore, nothing else happend. When I make an USB bootable stick, I've got a message saying that /boot/loader was not found. Having a look into /boot, I noticed that indeed, there's no loader anymore. But there a loader.efi, which wasn't in FreeBSD-7.2-RELEASE (the last I tried). I tried copying loader.efi to loader, but as expected, it says me 'invalid format' and still does not want to boot... What happened to loader? Did I download the wrong iso? Did I miss something? Also, why other archs have their -memstick.img, and ia64 have not? Thanks, Samuel Martín Moro {EPITECH.} tek4 CamTrace S.A.S (+033) 1 41 38 37 60 1 Allée de la Venelle 92150 Suresnes FRANCE Nobody wants to say how this works. Maybe nobody knows ... Xorg.conf(5) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.1-RELEASE ia64
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 04:07:27PM +0200, Samuel Martín Moro wrote: Hi I would like to install FreeBSD-8.1 ia64, so I downloaded FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-ia64-disc1.iso. When I boot from a burnt CD, the screen keeps black, with the blinkingunderscore, nothing else happend. When I make an USB bootable stick, I've got a message saying that /boot/loader was not found. Having a look into /boot, I noticed that indeed, there's no loader anymore. But there a loader.efi, which wasn't in FreeBSD-7.2-RELEASE (the last I tried). I tried copying loader.efi to loader, but as expected, it says me 'invalid format' and still does not want to boot... What happened to loader? Did I download the wrong iso? probably.. Perhaps you meant amd64? What's your computer make/model? Also, why other archs have their -memstick.img, and ia64 have not? ia64 wouldn't boot via USB. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.1-RELEASE ia64
Samuel Martín Moro wrote: Hi I would like to install FreeBSD-8.1 ia64, so I downloaded FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-ia64-disc1.iso. When I boot from a burnt CD, the screen keeps black, with the blinkingunderscore, nothing else happend. When I make an USB bootable stick, I've got a message saying that /boot/loader was not found. Having a look into /boot, I noticed that indeed, there's no loader anymore. But there a loader.efi, which wasn't in FreeBSD-7.2-RELEASE (the last I tried). I tried copying loader.efi to loader, but as expected, it says me 'invalid format' and still does not want to boot... Perfectly normal and to be expected. IA64 utilizes a different boot loader paradigm known as EFI. More info on EFI can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface What happened to loader? Did I download the wrong iso? Probably. The IA64 architecture is a completely different beast than x86. If your processor is a Xeon or some other regular Intel desktop type you need to use the amd64 iso image. Did I miss something? Also, why other archs have their -memstick.img, and ia64 have not? Maybe IA64 will not boot from USB because of the EFI boot loader requirement. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
Original message Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:40:26 -0400 From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org (on behalf of Tom Worster f...@thefsb.org) Subject: Re: BSD logo To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org On 7/23/10 10:01 PM, Victor Skovorodnikov vic...@mail.ru wrote: I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get deterred by its un-Christian logo. to me, devils, daemons and demons are mythological critters like elves, pixies and bogey men. fwiw: the first time I saw the logo it reminded me of the gremlin in the Bugs Bunny cartoon Falling Hare (see wikipedia). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
David Brodbeck wrote: It also hasn't escaped my notice that the original poster has never come back to this thread; I suspect we've been trolled, folks. That's possible. It's also possible that, after reading the responses to his inquiry, the original poster decided that his question had been adequately answered, his concerns were justified, and he should use a different operating system. If so, I can hardly blame him, even though I personally feel that boycotting BSD because of its mascot doesn't fit very well with the apostle Paul's advice to the Corinthian Christians that it was OK for them to buy from butchers who sacrifice to daemons (my own translation of δαιμονίοις θύει in 1 Corinthians 10:20). The original post looks to me like an expression of sincere concern about BSD's image, not an accusation of satanism or an attempt to start an argument. I wouldn't call his concern ignorant either: although the UNIX term daemon is not satanic in origin, some aspects of Beastie's appearance are obviously derived from traditional depictions of the Devil. Andy Balholm (509) 276-2065 a...@balholm.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:39:12 -0700 Andy Balholm a...@balholm.com articulated: David Brodbeck wrote: It also hasn't escaped my notice that the original poster has never come back to this thread; I suspect we've been trolled, folks. That's possible. It's also possible that, after reading the responses to his inquiry, the original poster decided that his question had been adequately answered, his concerns were justified, and he should use a different operating system. If so, I can hardly blame him, even though I personally feel that boycotting BSD because of its mascot doesn't fit very well with the apostle Paul's advice to the Corinthian Christians that it was OK for them to buy from butchers who sacrifice to daemons (my own translation of δαιμονίοις θύει in 1 Corinthians 10:20). The original post looks to me like an expression of sincere concern about BSD's image, not an accusation of satanism or an attempt to start an argument. I wouldn't call his concern ignorant either: although the UNIX term daemon is not satanic in origin, some aspects of Beastie's appearance are obviously derived from traditional depictions of the Devil. I have always been partial to a passage by a famous American author. Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion — several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn’t straight. Mark Twain -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ We don't know who discovered water, but we're certain it wasn't a fish. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
Suffice it to say, though there are many intuitive comments I think that ultimately we are beating a dead horse with another dead horse while standing on a dead horse. The corpses are starting to reek. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
By the way . . . while I think a BelssedBSD fork is a ridiculous idea, the name BlessedBSD is *brilliant*. Pronouncing it aloud makes the high-quality pun buried in the name more obvious, for those who didn't quite catch it on the first read-through. i agree. lovely name. the pagan connection is delectable. http://is.gd/dJRn3 After the install, does it say SoMoteItBSD? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
Hello, On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 17:39, Andy Balholm a...@balholm.com wrote: The original post looks to me like an expression of sincere concern about BSD's image I'd say, if the logo is hard to cope with for some, then they may be comforted in something of a far more importance than the logo - FreeBSD bottom line is power to serve - a very Christian concept, though unfortunately often forgotten. :) Add reliability, openness and a friendly followers on top of that and you have got a very attractive package that would be hard to beat. Warm regards, -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.fairtrade.net.pl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1
Hi all, For those trying to test OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE (no official package yet): This: ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/OOo_3.2.1_FreeBSD81Intel_install_es.tbz From ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/ is working for me. (I now most of you already knew this, but I didn't!, I'm a FreeBSD newbie!) Cheers, Antonio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1
Quoth Antonio Vieiro on Monday, 26 July 2010: Hi all, For those trying to test OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE (no official package yet): This: ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/OOo_3.2.1_FreeBSD81Intel_install_es.tbz From ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/ is working for me. (I now most of you already knew this, but I didn't!, I'm a FreeBSD newbie!) Cheers, Antonio Umm... what's wrong with the port? Works okay here (well, as OK as OpenOffice.org ever is). -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpEKX3ni2A4t.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Antonio Vieiro on Monday, 26 July 2010: Hi all, For those trying to test OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE (no official package yet): This: ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/OOo_3.2.1_FreeBSD81Intel_install_es.tbz From ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/ is working for me. (I now most of you already knew this, but I didn't!, I'm a FreeBSD newbie!) Cheers, Antonio Umm... what's wrong with the port? Works okay here (well, as OK as OpenOffice.org ever is). -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com Compiling OpenOffice is not a practical option for many of us due to hardware restraints. I'm glad to see that there's a compiled binary somewhere! Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
--On Saturday, July 24, 2010 00:24:46 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: When this is the way someone starts a discussion about wanting to use a new OS, I tend to believe there is no genuine interest in using the OS in question. When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe there's no genuine interest in dialog. I am therefore left to wonder who really is the intolerant one. One cannot claim to be tolerant while demonstrating intolerance any more than one can claim to be educated without every having read a book. It's amazing to me the ridicule heaped upon the man for asking a question. Would it have been too difficult to simply answer the question, as the first response did? No, we have to attack the man for having beliefs that are different from our own. Because we're so enlightened? Or because we are even more ignorant than we suppose he is? -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead. Thomas Jefferson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.comwrote: When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe there's no genuine interest in dialog. I am therefore left to wonder who really is the intolerant one. One cannot claim to be tolerant while demonstrating intolerance any more than one can claim to be educated without every having read a book. It's amazing to me the ridicule heaped upon the man for asking a question. Would it have been too difficult to simply answer the question, as the first response did? No, we have to attack the man for having beliefs that are different from our own. Because we're so enlightened? Or because we are even more ignorant than we suppose he is? To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Because people like that impose their beliefs on others. Let's not pretend that the end-goal of initiating that dialog is anything other than change it due to my beliefs or a troll. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Port upgrade problem
Petre Bandac pe...@kgb.ro writes: Lowell Gilbert wrote: Petre Bandac pe...@kgb.ro writes: While upgrading port, I have the following problems: - some cfg files are overwritten (authdaemon's authmysqlrc) I can't figure out what port that comes from, so I can't help. courier-authlib-mysql-0.63.0_1 - the file is /usr/local/etc/authlib/authmysqlrc According to the plist info, it shouldn't be installed at all; just etc/authlib/authmysqlrc.dist. On delete, it will only be removed if identical to authmysqlrc.dist. - some make install options are not kept (maildrop - not compiled against mysql and courier imap - fam is compiled, even though initially was ruled out) Those aren't set up as OPTIONS, so they won't get stored in /var/db/ports. The upgrade sequence is: # portsnap fetch update # portmanager -u Am I doing something wrong? See alternative configuration in the portmanager manual. I guess that is what I need, thank you however, I don't remember to have had this problem until now (i.e. options not being kept @ update); or they had the same behavior ? It's always been this way. This was the reason behind adding the OPTIONS mechanism, but not all optional features are set up that way. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
1 file system, 2 drives?
One of my clients has a server that hosts big public-access type videos. He started off with a separate 200G drive just for video storage (FreeBSD is on another drive). This video storage drive is mounted as /videos. He's just bought another drive, but now I'm thinking of what to do with it... I know this is probably impossible, but FreeBSD can do so many miraculous things, that I can't help asking... Is it possible to use the second drive to 'expand' the /videos file system? So it would miraculously look like a single 400G drive? I ask this, because logically, Im going to use the second drive the same way as the first: to store videos. It will be really awkward to have two mount points, and try to decide which video should get stored on which drive. And no doubt it will get more complex as we go along. It would be much simpler if this logical drive could just expand as needed. Any ideas much appreciated. -- John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 1 file system, 2 drives?
26.07.2010 21:55, John Almberg wrote: One of my clients has a server that hosts big public-access type videos. He started off with a separate 200G drive just for video storage (FreeBSD is on another drive). This video storage drive is mounted as /videos. He's just bought another drive, but now I'm thinking of what to do with it... I know this is probably impossible, but FreeBSD can do so many miraculous things, that I can't help asking... Is it possible to use the second drive to 'expand' the /videos file system? So it would miraculously look like a single 400G drive? I ask this, because logically, Im going to use the second drive the same way as the first: to store videos. It will be really awkward to have two mount points, and try to decide which video should get stored on which drive. And no doubt it will get more complex as we go along. It would be much simpler if this logical drive could just expand as needed. Any ideas much appreciated. Making two devices appear as one: * vinum; * gstripe; * ZFS. Making two devices look like there's only one: * union. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 1 file system, 2 drives?
Hi, John-- On Jul 26, 2010, at 11:55 AM, John Almberg wrote: I know this is probably impossible, but FreeBSD can do so many miraculous things, that I can't help asking... Is it possible to use the second drive to 'expand' the /videos file system? So it would miraculously look like a single 400G drive? The canonical way of doing this is to either create a RAID-0 concat or stripe volume. Using RAID-0 striping is preferred due to performance, but you'd need to backup, reformat using a RAID-0 stripe, and then restore your data onto the new volume. In theory, setting up a concat is less intrusive, but if the data is already mounted and in use, you'll probably still need to unmount it first. If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native RAID is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/raid.html Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 1 file system, 2 drives?
Volodymyr/Chuck, Is it possible to use the second drive to 'expand' the /videos file system? So it would miraculously look like a single 400G drive? The canonical way of doing this is to either create a RAID-0 concat or stripe volume. Wow, of course... I should have thought of that. Something like that should be just what the Dr. ordered. I will look into it. Thanks: John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 1 file system, 2 drives?
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote: Hi, John-- On Jul 26, 2010, at 11:55 AM, John Almberg wrote: I know this is probably impossible, but FreeBSD can do so many miraculous things, that I can't help asking... Is it possible to use the second drive to 'expand' the /videos file system? So it would miraculously look like a single 400G drive? The canonical way of doing this is to either create a RAID-0 concat or stripe volume. Using RAID-0 striping is preferred due to performance, but you'd need to backup, reformat using a RAID-0 stripe, and then restore your data onto the new volume. In theory, setting up a concat is less intrusive, but if the data is already mounted and in use, you'll probably still need to unmount it first. If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native RAID is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: There is also gconcat(8), IMO much easier than gvinum although not all the power either. ZFS sort has this as well, if you replace devices with bigger devices the pool with grow to the size of the smallest device. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 03:41:27PM -0700, Charlie Kester wrote: On Sun 25 Jul 2010 at 14:42:14 PDT Matthew Seaman wrote: Besides, I suspect that the OP was not in fact genuinely offended but merely trying to stir up trouble Which makes it all the more disappointing that so many of you took the bait. I stand by my previous comments. Please end this thread, now. Oh, I have been enjoying it. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.1-RELEASE ia64
Oh right.. ok... sorry... I'll try amd64 Thanks for the heads up! Samuel Martín Moro {EPITECH.} tek4 CamTrace S.A.S (+033) 1 41 38 37 60 1 Allée de la Venelle 92150 Suresnes FRANCE Nobody wants to say how this works. Maybe nobody knows ... Xorg.conf(5) On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.comwrote: Samuel Martín Moro wrote: Hi I would like to install FreeBSD-8.1 ia64, so I downloaded FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-ia64-disc1.iso. When I boot from a burnt CD, the screen keeps black, with the blinkingunderscore, nothing else happend. When I make an USB bootable stick, I've got a message saying that /boot/loader was not found. Having a look into /boot, I noticed that indeed, there's no loader anymore. But there a loader.efi, which wasn't in FreeBSD-7.2-RELEASE (the last I tried). I tried copying loader.efi to loader, but as expected, it says me 'invalid format' and still does not want to boot... Perfectly normal and to be expected. IA64 utilizes a different boot loader paradigm known as EFI. More info on EFI can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface What happened to loader? Did I download the wrong iso? Probably. The IA64 architecture is a completely different beast than x86. If your processor is a Xeon or some other regular Intel desktop type you need to use the amd64 iso image. Did I miss something? Also, why other archs have their -memstick.img, and ia64 have not? Maybe IA64 will not boot from USB because of the EFI boot loader requirement. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 1 file system, 2 drives?
If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native RAID is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: I've just been reading up on RAID in my Absolute FreeBSD book, and it occurs to me that my client has a SCSI RAID drive chassis that he is using stupidly... It's a 14 bay drive, and he's currently got seven 32G drives stuck in it, configured with RAID-0. This is the original 200G drive I was talking about. It's a few years old. Over the next few years, this guy is going to need lots of storage for his videos. After a bit of reading, I'm wondering if the best idea might be to toss out those 32G drives and replace them with 3 big (say, 300G) drives configured with RAID-5. It sounds to me like a RAID-5 array can be expanded by adding new drives. QUESTION: is expansion normally a matter of just plugging in a new drive? Is the new drive automatically grafted onto the old drives? Or do you have to go through a process like, backing up the data, plugging in the new drive, reformatting the expanded array of drives, and restoring the data. I don't know the brand/model of the RAID drive chassis, but the client thinks it can be switched to use RAID 5. I'm waiting for the technical details, but assuming it can handle RAID-5 for now. Thanks: John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 1 file system, 2 drives?
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:30 PM, John Almberg jalmb...@identry.com wrote: If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native RAID is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: I've just been reading up on RAID in my Absolute FreeBSD book, and it occurs to me that my client has a SCSI RAID drive chassis that he is using stupidly... It's a 14 bay drive, and he's currently got seven 32G drives stuck in it, configured with RAID-0. This is the original 200G drive I was talking about. It's a few years old. Over the next few years, this guy is going to need lots of storage for his videos. After a bit of reading, I'm wondering if the best idea might be to toss out those 32G drives and replace them with 3 big (say, 300G) drives configured with RAID-5. It sounds to me like a RAID-5 array can be expanded by adding new drives. QUESTION: is expansion normally a matter of just plugging in a new drive? Is the new drive automatically grafted onto the old drives? Or do you have to go through a process like, backing up the data, plugging in the new drive, reformatting the expanded array of drives, and restoring the data. I don't know the brand/model of the RAID drive chassis, but the client thinks it can be switched to use RAID 5. I'm waiting for the technical details, but assuming it can handle RAID-5 for now. Thanks: John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi: If the Write-performance its not a problem go with 3 drives. If you need a good write performance go at least with 4 -or- use another RAID level. Maybe the RAID Controller allow RAID 5 Grow but im not shure if FreeBSD can handle it. -- mmm, interesante. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 1 file system, 2 drives?
John Almberg wrote: If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native RAID is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: I've just been reading up on RAID in my Absolute FreeBSD book, and it occurs to me that my client has a SCSI RAID drive chassis that he is using stupidly... It's a 14 bay drive, and he's currently got seven 32G drives stuck in it, configured with RAID-0. This is the original 200G drive I was talking about. It's a few years old. Over the next few years, this guy is going to need lots of storage for his videos. After a bit of reading, I'm wondering if the best idea might be to toss out those 32G drives and replace them with 3 big (say, 300G) drives configured with RAID-5. It sounds to me like a RAID-5 array can be expanded by adding new drives. QUESTION: is expansion normally a matter of just plugging in a new drive? Is the new drive automatically grafted onto the old drives? Or do you have to go through a process like, backing up the data, plugging in the new drive, reformatting the expanded array of drives, and restoring the data. I don't know the brand/model of the RAID drive chassis, but the client thinks it can be switched to use RAID 5. I'm waiting for the technical details, but assuming it can handle RAID-5 for now. Answering my own question... So its a HP 6402 / 128 RAID controller. From a quick skim of the manual, it looks like the controller has to go through an 'expansion' process when adding a new drive. This sounds time consuming, but more or less automatic -- i.e., handled by the controller. Sounds like this might be the best way to go. -- John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On Mon, July 26, 2010 11:24 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe there's no genuine interest in dialog. Well, I hate to break it to you, but people who are trying to make a religious point aren't interested in dialog, anyway. In fact, it's pretty well impossible to have a dialog with them that gets anywhere. You can't have a sensible debate when the other person's fallback response is always it's god's will, so it's beyond our understanding and we can't question it, and you're an evil person for not agreeing with me. These people have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: 1 file system, 2 drives?
From my experience (YMMV), most RAID controllers will NOT redistribute the existing data/files onto the newly added drives. So, if you have a (3) drive RAID5 your file exists on all three drives, as does the parity data. If you add (2) drives, your original files will not be on the new drives. New files WILL use all (5) drives. IMHO it's best to backup the data (twice), create a new volume on the new RAID, and restore the data. That said, maybe better/newer RAID controllers will redistribute / balance existing data across all drives in the array - I don't know for sure. Either way, backup your data - twice! And make sure it can be restored! Just because the backup app SAYS it's OK, it's NOT OK until it can be successfully restored! Also, if you go from (7) drives to (3), your I/O may suffer. Newer faster drives MAY make up the difference, or make up enough of it that it won't impact your client. Just be aware this is a potential issue. Generally speaking more spindles = more I/O's / sec. G -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of John Almberg Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:31 PM To: Chuck Swiger Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native RAID is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: I've just been reading up on RAID in my Absolute FreeBSD book, and it occurs to me that my client has a SCSI RAID drive chassis that he is using stupidly... It's a 14 bay drive, and he's currently got seven 32G drives stuck in it, configured with RAID-0. This is the original 200G drive I was talking about. It's a few years old. Over the next few years, this guy is going to need lots of storage for his videos. After a bit of reading, I'm wondering if the best idea might be to toss out those 32G drives and replace them with 3 big (say, 300G) drives configured with RAID-5. It sounds to me like a RAID-5 array can be expanded by adding new drives. QUESTION: is expansion normally a matter of just plugging in a new drive? Is the new drive automatically grafted onto the old drives? Or do you have to go through a process like, backing up the data, plugging in the new drive, reformatting the expanded array of drives, and restoring the data. I don't know the brand/model of the RAID drive chassis, but the client thinks it can be switched to use RAID 5. I'm waiting for the technical details, but assuming it can handle RAID-5 for now. Thanks: John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
problem with ffmpeg port
Hello, I have a VPS account at viaverio and am trying to install ffmpeg on my server. [...@28amen ~]$ uname -a FreeBSD 28amen.org 6.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE #6: Wed Oct 21 09:32:42 MDT 2009 r...@fc:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/VKERN i386 I realize that that is an old version of FreeBSD, but there is nothing I can do about that. I tried sudo portinstall ffmpeg but after a long time downloading and compiling various packages it ends with ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! math/mpfr (unknown build error) * devel/binutils * multimedia/x264 * multimedia/ffmpeg-devel * multimedia/ffmpeg Viaverio support suggested that I cd /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg make install make clean But... [...@28amen ~]$ cd /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg [...@28amen /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg]$ sudo make install Password: === ffmpeg-0.6_1,1 depends on executable: yasm - found === ffmpeg-0.6_1,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/as - not found ===Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/as in /usr/ports/devel/binutils === binutils-2.20.1_3 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libgmp.so - found === binutils-2.20.1_3 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libmpfr.so - not found ===Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/libmpfr.so in /usr/ports/math/mpfr === Vulnerability check disabled, database not found === License accepted by the user === Extracting for mpfr-3.0.0 = MD5 Checksum OK for mpfr/mpfr-3.0.0.tar.xz. = SHA256 Checksum OK for mpfr/mpfr-3.0.0.tar.xz. === mpfr-3.0.0 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/xz - not found ===Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/xz in /usr/ports/archivers/xz === Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if archivers/xz already installed === An older version of archivers/xz is already installed (lzmautils-4.32.7) You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of archivers/xz without deleting it first, set the variable FORCE_PKG_REGISTER in your environment or the make install command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/archivers/xz. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/math/mpfr. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/devel/binutils. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/devel/binutils. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg. I really need ffmpeg and hope that I can get some help here. Thanks. -- This message may have been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA and/or the present government of Thailand without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient. John Francis Lee 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with ffmpeg port
Hi-- On Jul 26, 2010, at 2:22 PM, John Francis Lee wrote: ===Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/xz in /usr/ports/archivers/xz === Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if archivers/xz already installed === An older version of archivers/xz is already installed (lzmautils-4.32.7) You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of archivers/xz without deleting it first, set the variable FORCE_PKG_REGISTER in your environment or the make install command line. *** Error code 1 This is the relevant bit. You need to upgrade archivers/xz first by following the suggestions, or else use a tool like portupgrade/portmanager/etc... Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with ffmpeg port
On Jul 26, 2010, at 2:34 PM, John Francis Lee wrote: Thanks [...@28amen /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg]$ cd ../../archivers/xz/ [...@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo make deinstall Password: === Deinstalling for archivers/xz [...@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo make install === Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if archivers/xz already installed === An older version of archivers/xz is already installed (lzmautils-4.32.7) It looks like you might have archivers/lzmautils installed instead of archivers/xz; try deinstalling that instead, and then let multimedia/ffmpeg install the one it wants. If make deinstall doesn't do it, then pkg_info | grep lzma or pkg_info | grep xz might tell you which one you have installed, and pkg_delete -f can be fed the name of the package you do have... Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with ffmpeg port
Thanks [...@28amen /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg]$ cd ../../archivers/xz/ [...@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo make deinstall Password: === Deinstalling for archivers/xz [...@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo make install === Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if archivers/xz already installed === An older version of archivers/xz is already installed (lzmautils-4.32.7) You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of archivers/xz without deleting it first, set the variable FORCE_PKG_REGISTER in your environment or the make install command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/archivers/xz. Should I try the FORCE_PKG_REGISTER bit? If so how? Thanks for your help... Or how do I portupgrade/portmanager/etc... Thanks again. On 07/27/2010 04:29 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote: Hi-- On Jul 26, 2010, at 2:22 PM, John Francis Lee wrote: ===Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/xz in /usr/ports/archivers/xz === Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if archivers/xz already installed === An older version of archivers/xz is already installed (lzmautils-4.32.7) You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of archivers/xz without deleting it first, set the variable FORCE_PKG_REGISTER in your environment or the make install command line. *** Error code 1 This is the relevant bit. You need to upgrade archivers/xz first by following the suggestions, or else use a tool like portupgrade/portmanager/etc... Regards, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with ffmpeg port
do this: #make install -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER on that particular port, in this case /archivers/xz. On Jul 26, 2010, at 4:34 PM, John Francis Lee wrote: Thanks [...@28amen /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg]$ cd ../../archivers/xz/ [...@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo make deinstall Password: === Deinstalling for archivers/xz [...@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo make install === Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if archivers/xz already installed === An older version of archivers/xz is already installed (lzmautils-4.32.7) You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of archivers/xz without deleting it first, set the variable FORCE_PKG_REGISTER in your environment or the make install command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/archivers/xz. Should I try the FORCE_PKG_REGISTER bit? If so how? Thanks for your help... Or how do I portupgrade/portmanager/etc... Thanks again. On 07/27/2010 04:29 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote: Hi-- On Jul 26, 2010, at 2:22 PM, John Francis Lee wrote: ===Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/xz in /usr/ports/archivers/xz === Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if archivers/xz already installed === An older version of archivers/xz is already installed (lzmautils-4.32.7) You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of archivers/xz without deleting it first, set the variable FORCE_PKG_REGISTER in your environment or the make install command line. *** Error code 1 This is the relevant bit. You need to upgrade archivers/xz first by following the suggestions, or else use a tool like portupgrade/portmanager/etc... Regards, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:06:17 -0700, David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote: These people have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. Reminds me to the discussion around Russell's teapot... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
--On Monday, July 26, 2010 14:06:17 -0700 David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote: On Mon, July 26, 2010 11:24 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe there's no genuine interest in dialog. Well, I hate to break it to you, but people who are trying to make a religious point aren't interested in dialog, anyway. In fact, it's pretty well impossible to have a dialog with them that gets anywhere. You can't have a sensible debate when the other person's fallback response is always it's god's will, so it's beyond our understanding and we can't question it, and you're an evil person for not agreeing with me. These people have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. The assumptions and bias in that statement are so broad as to defy description. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead. Thomas Jefferson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On Mon, July 26, 2010 3:53 pm, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Monday, July 26, 2010 14:06:17 -0700 David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote: On Mon, July 26, 2010 11:24 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe there's no genuine interest in dialog. Well, I hate to break it to you, but people who are trying to make a religious point aren't interested in dialog, anyway. In fact, it's pretty well impossible to have a dialog with them that gets anywhere. You can't have a sensible debate when the other person's fallback response is always it's god's will, so it's beyond our understanding and we can't question it, and you're an evil person for not agreeing with me. These people have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. The assumptions and bias in that statement are so broad as to defy description. Well, all I can say is I was a regular church-goer for 20 years, and went to religious school for six of those, so I come by my position honestly. I guess this is pretty thoroughly OT at this point, though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:00:46 -0500, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: Compiling OpenOffice is not a practical option for many of us due to hardware restraints. I'm glad to see that there's a compiled binary somewhere! Additionally, there's also the problem of the various configurational items for the OpenOffice building process: if to use CUPS or not, if to include Gnome-VFS support, KDE support, Mozilla support, and the localized language (which does not even include dictionaries for that language)... The times where pkg_add -r de-openoffice.org would give you, for example, an OpenOffice in german language (WITH dictionaries!) within a few minutes are over. :-( -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with ffmpeg port
Thanks... I did that and ffmpeg did install! But... [...@28amen ~/www/robinlea.com]$ ffmpeg -i introduction.wav introduction.mp3 FFmpeg version 0.6, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 the FFmpeg developers built on Jul 26 2010 22:42:00 with gcc 3.4.6 [FreeBSD] 20060305 configuration: --prefix=/usr/local --mandir=/usr/local/man --enable-shared --enable-gpl --enable-postproc --enable-avfilter --enable-avfilter-lavf --enable-pthreads --enable-x11grab --enable-memalign-hack --cc=cc --extra-cflags=-I/usr/local/include/vorbis -I/usr/local/include --extra-ldflags=-L/usr/local/lib --extra-libs=-pthread --disable-debug --disable-sse --disable-mmx --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-version3 --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-version3 --enable-libdirac --enable-libfaac --enable-nonfree --enable-libfaad --enable-libfaadbin --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid libavutil 50.15. 1 / 50.15. 1 libavcodec52.72. 2 / 52.72. 2 libavformat 52.64. 2 / 52.64. 2 libavdevice 52. 2. 0 / 52. 2. 0 libavfilter1.19. 0 / 1.19. 0 libswscale 0.11. 0 / 0.11. 0 libpostproc 51. 2. 0 / 51. 2. 0 Bus error: 10 (core dumped) I had had a look at the manpage for portupgrade and saw a reference to pkgdb -F So I ran that I and noticed a duplicated origin for archivers/xz : Duplicated origin: archivers/xz - lzmautils-4.32.7 xz-4.999.9_1 and so unregistered lzmautils-4.32.7 then cd /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg sudo make deinstall sudo make install but ffmpeg still dumps core. Any further suggestions? This is what pkgdb -F shows now [...@28amen ~/www/robinlea.com]$ sudo pkgdb -F Password: --- Checking the package registry database Stale origin: 'misc/ldconfig_compat': perhaps moved or obsoleted. - The port 'misc/ldconfig_compat' was removed on 2010-05-14 because: Supported releases don't need the port anymore - Hint: ldconfig_compat-1.0_8 is required by the following package(s): p5-DBD-mysql50-3.0006 mysql-scripts-5.0.24 mysql-server-5.0.24 squid-2.6.12 mysql-client-5.0.24 - Hint: checking for overwritten files... - No files installed by ldconfig_compat-1.0_8 have been overwritten by other packages. Deinstall ldconfig_compat-1.0_8 ? [no] Duplicated origin: textproc/p5-XML-LibXML - p5-XML-LibXML-1.69,1 p5-XML-LibXML-Common-0.13 Unregister any of them? [no] Duplicated origin: lang/python25 - python25-2.5.2_2 python25-2.5.4_1 Unregister any of them? [no] Thanks again for your help. On 07/27/2010 05:19 AM, Ryan Coleman wrote: do this: #make install -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER on that particular port, in this case /archivers/xz. On Jul 26, 2010, at 4:34 PM, John Francis Lee wrote: Thanks [...@28amen /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg]$ cd ../../archivers/xz/ [...@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo make deinstall Password: === Deinstalling for archivers/xz [...@28amen /ports/archivers/xz]$ sudo make install === Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if archivers/xz already installed === An older version of archivers/xz is already installed (lzmautils-4.32.7) You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of archivers/xz without deleting it first, set the variable FORCE_PKG_REGISTER in your environment or the make install command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/archivers/xz. Should I try the FORCE_PKG_REGISTER bit? If so how? Thanks for your help... Or how do I portupgrade/portmanager/etc... Thanks again. On 07/27/2010 04:29 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote: Hi-- On Jul 26, 2010, at 2:22 PM, John Francis Lee wrote: ===Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/xz in /usr/ports/archivers/xz === Installing for xz-4.999.9_1 === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if archivers/xz already installed === An older version of archivers/xz is already installed (lzmautils-4.32.7) You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of archivers/xz without deleting it first, set the variable FORCE_PKG_REGISTER in your environment or the make install command line. *** Error code 1 This is the relevant bit. You need to upgrade archivers/xz first by following the suggestions, or else use a tool like portupgrade/portmanager/etc... Regards, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- This message may have been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA
Re: BSD logo
On 7/26/10 12:35 PM, Pegasus Mc Cleaft k...@mthelicon.com wrote: By the way . . . while I think a BelssedBSD fork is a ridiculous idea, the name BlessedBSD is *brilliant*. Pronouncing it aloud makes the high-quality pun buried in the name more obvious, for those who didn't quite catch it on the first read-through. i agree. lovely name. the pagan connection is delectable. http://is.gd/dJRn3 After the install, does it say SoMoteItBSD? and gives you a distinctive handshake. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:06:17 -0700, David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote: These people have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. Reminds me to the discussion around Russell's teapot... No . . . not you . . . Polytropon! The end of the world must be coming (Revelations-1.0). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:59 PM, David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote: On Mon, July 26, 2010 3:53 pm, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Monday, July 26, 2010 14:06:17 -0700 David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote: On Mon, July 26, 2010 11:24 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe there's no genuine interest in dialog. Well, I hate to break it to you, but people who are trying to make a religious point aren't interested in dialog, anyway. In fact, it's pretty well impossible to have a dialog with them that gets anywhere. You can't have a sensible debate when the other person's fallback response is always it's god's will, so it's beyond our understanding and we can't question it, and you're an evil person for not agreeing with me. These people have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. The assumptions and bias in that statement are so broad as to defy description. Well, all I can say is I was a regular church-goer for 20 years, and went to religious school for six of those, so I come by my position honestly. I guess this is pretty thoroughly OT at this point, though. OT Seems so, but it's a very interesting topic.I kindly invite all interested in having this discussion here: http://ekowiki.org/index.php/Religion This is a humble project I started a while back when I decided to stop talking and thinking and actually try to do something... /OT ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:59 PM, David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote: On Mon, July 26, 2010 3:53 pm, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Monday, July 26, 2010 14:06:17 -0700 David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote: On Mon, July 26, 2010 11:24 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe there's no genuine interest in dialog. Well, I hate to break it to you, but people who are trying to make a religious point aren't interested in dialog, anyway. In fact, it's pretty well impossible to have a dialog with them that gets anywhere. You can't have a sensible debate when the other person's fallback response is always it's god's will, so it's beyond our understanding and we can't question it, and you're an evil person for not agreeing with me. These people have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. The assumptions and bias in that statement are so broad as to defy description. Well, all I can say is I was a regular church-goer for 20 years, and went to religious school for six of those, so I come by my position honestly. I guess this is pretty thoroughly OT at this point, though. OT Seems so, but it's a very interesting topic.I kindly invite all interested in having this discussion here: http://ekowiki.org/index.php/Religion This is a humble project I started a while back when I decided to stop talking and thinking and actually try to do something... /OT Oh, and BTW it runs on FBSD, of course ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:22:21 -0500, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: No . . . not you . . . Polytropon! The end of the world must be coming (Revelations-1.0). Do *NOT* tempt me. Okay, you did. And this is what will happen: It turns this thread into a bottomless pit of nonsense, but well, you asked for it. :-) ,ggg, nd spotteth twice they the system before dP8I the fifth version, and so, the Programmers dP 88 went Forth to RAM Gilead in Kernel Bilgemath, dP88 by Shell Ethra Joygalion, to the house of ,8'88 Gash-Bernars-Lee-Bazola, he who brought the d better list to Kerneygham and the tank pool __ ,8 88 to the house of Ritchomon, and there slew dP ,8P Y8 they the list messages, yea, and placed they Yb,_,dP `8b, the bits in little bit buckets. Here endeth Y8P `Y8 the lesson. (Pal 8:256) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 08:39:12AM -0700, Andy Balholm wrote: It's also possible that, after reading the responses to his inquiry, the original poster decided that his question had been adequately answered, his concerns were justified, and he should use a different operating system. although the UNIX term daemon is not satanic in origin, some aspects of Beastie's appearance are obviously derived from traditional depictions of the Devil. Really? Are you sure they weren't derived from something else -- perhaps a source in common for the traditional depictions of the devil? There may be a common source for both, rather than one being the source of the other. Correlation does not imply causation. Did you ask the original Beastie artist for confirmation that he was consciously emulating images of the Christian devil, or did you just jump to a conclusion like the OP? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp6ugw8jNGAY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BSD logo
On 7/26/10 8:01 PM, Polytropon wrote: ,ggg, nd spotteth twice they the system before dP8I the fifth version, and so, the Programmers dP 88 went Forth to RAM Gilead in Kernel Bilgemath, dP88 by Shell Ethra Joygalion, to the house of ,8'88 Gash-Bernars-Lee-Bazola, he who brought the d better list to Kerneygham and the tank pool __ ,8 88 to the house of Ritchomon, and there slew dP ,8P Y8 they the list messages, yea, and placed they Yb,_,dP `8b, the bits in little bit buckets. Here endeth Y8P `Y8 the lesson. (Pal 8:256) *clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap* Well done, sir. :) Best, --Glenn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 01:24:21PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Saturday, July 24, 2010 00:24:46 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: When this is the way someone starts a discussion about wanting to use a new OS, I tend to believe there is no genuine interest in using the OS in question. When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe there's no genuine interest in dialog. I am therefore left to wonder who really is the intolerant one. One cannot claim to be tolerant while demonstrating intolerance any more than one can claim to be educated without every having read a book. How perspicacious of you. I'll quote myself basically saying exactly that -- that I am not particularly interested in dialog with someone who, I'm sure, has already made up his or her mind: In any case, I didn't claim to be tolerant. In fact, I very specifically said I was sure someone would accuse me of intolerance, and went on to explain that I am guilty of intolerance of those who are intolerant themselves. Why are you just repeating what I have said, but in the tone of an accusation? How intolerant are *you* today? Not all education comes from books, by the way (though I personally have read many, many books, and quite enjoy the activity of reading). While I normally prefer to take an inclusive approach to dealing with people who run into obstacles in their approach to thinking about OSes, there are cases where I simply feel the urge to throw my hands in the air and giving up on someone. Such cases are those where it seems likely that some kind of closed-minded idolatry (which is exactly what this is: taking a cartoony mascot as some kind of Manifest Presence of a supernatural, superhuman Force, Principle, or Being) is going on. Either you will get over it, or you will not, and it is only a very faint hope that pointing out the ludicrousness of your objection that compels me to respond at all. Is that clear enough for you? It's amazing to me the ridicule heaped upon the man for asking a question. Would it have been too difficult to simply answer the question, as the first response did? No, we have to attack the man for having beliefs that are different from our own. Because we're so enlightened? Or because we are even more ignorant than we suppose he is? I *did* answer the question before heaping ridicule on someone who, as I stated, I believe had already made up his or her mind, and had no genuine interest in dialog in the first place. My attack, by the way, had *zero* to do with anyone's beliefs being different from my own -- as you might have noticed if you bothered to read and understand what I said. Skimming it for excuses to accuse me of religious intolerance doesn't work as well as you might think. You're a self-righteous git, and probably personally offended by the appearance of an attack on Christianity (which is never what was intended, nor even what happened, at least in the case of the specific email to which you replied). Try stepping back, reading more closely, and responding to what was *actually* said. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpnGbdXUbzFM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BSD logo
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 05:53:30PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Monday, July 26, 2010 14:06:17 -0700 David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote: On Mon, July 26, 2010 11:24 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: When this is the way one answers a simple question, I tend to believe there's no genuine interest in dialog. Well, I hate to break it to you, but people who are trying to make a religious point aren't interested in dialog, anyway. In fact, it's pretty well impossible to have a dialog with them that gets anywhere. You can't have a sensible debate when the other person's fallback response is always it's god's will, so it's beyond our understanding and we can't question it, and you're an evil person for not agreeing with me. These people have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. The assumptions and bias in that statement are so broad as to defy description. There appeared to be a fair bit of assumption and bias in your response to me, as well. Pot, kettle, et cetera. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpYY4PB4YHFj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BSD logo
On 7/26/10, Glenn Sieb ges+li...@wingfoot.org wrote: On 7/26/10 8:01 PM, Polytropon wrote: ,ggg, nd spotteth twice they the system before dP8I the fifth version, and so, the Programmers dP 88 went Forth to RAM Gilead in Kernel Bilgemath, dP88 by Shell Ethra Joygalion, to the house of ,8'88 Gash-Bernars-Lee-Bazola, he who brought the d better list to Kerneygham and the tank pool __ ,8 88 to the house of Ritchomon, and there slew dP ,8P Y8 they the list messages, yea, and placed they Yb,_,dP `8b, the bits in little bit buckets. Here endeth Y8P `Y8 the lesson. (Pal 8:256) *clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap* Well done, sir. :) Best, --Glenn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Good one, but how about creation? http://www.pi.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/creation.html Cheers! Antonio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 1 file system, 2 drives?
From: Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 1:41:19 PM Subject: RE: 1 file system, 2 drives? From my experience (YMMV), most RAID controllers will NOT redistribute the existing data/files onto the newly added drives. So, if you have a (3) drive RAID5 your file exists on all three drives, as does the parity data. If you add (2) drives, your original files will not be on the new drives. New files WILL use all (5) drives. IMHO it's best to backup the data (twice), create a new volume on the new RAID, and restore the data. That said, maybe better/newer RAID controllers will redistribute / balance existing data across all drives in the array - I don't know for sure. Either way, backup your data - twice! And make sure it can be restored! Just because the backup app SAYS it's OK, it's NOT OK until it can be successfully restored! Also, if you go from (7) drives to (3), your I/O may suffer. Newer faster drives MAY make up the difference, or make up enough of it that it won't impact your client. Just be aware this is a potential issue. Generally speaking more spindles = more I/O's / sec. G Generally speaking more spindles = more I/O's / sec. and more chance for failure. After a certain point adding more drives to a RAID0 stripe doesn't buy you anything because the first one is ready for the next command before you get very far down the line. -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of John Almberg Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:31 PM To: Chuck Swiger Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native RAID is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: I've just been reading up on RAID in my Absolute FreeBSD book, and it occurs to me that my client has a SCSI RAID drive chassis that he is using stupidly... It's a 14 bay drive, and he's currently got seven 32G drives stuck in it, configured with RAID-0. This is the original 200G drive I was talking about. It's a few years old. Over the next few years, this guy is going to need lots of storage for his videos. After a bit of reading, I'm wondering if the best idea might be to toss out those 32G drives and replace them with 3 big (say, 300G) drives configured with RAID-5. It sounds to me like a RAID-5 array can be expanded by adding new drives. QUESTION: is expansion normally a matter of just plugging in a new drive? Is the new drive automatically grafted onto the old drives? Or do you have to go through a process like, backing up the data, plugging in the new drive, reformatting the expanded array of drives, and restoring the data. I don't know the brand/model of the RAID drive chassis, but the client thinks it can be switched to use RAID 5. I'm waiting for the technical details, but assuming it can handle RAID-5 for now. Thanks: John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I donot like using mergemaster ?
that's great ! I will use /etc/mergemaster.rc to upgrade my FB 8.0. Mike Clarke-17 wrote: On Monday 26 July 2010, zaxis wrote: I want to upgrade my freebsd 8.0 to 8.1. I have read all the steps about upgrading freebsd. I feel mergemaster is difficult to use e.g. which parameters should i use ? (you may wish to use -U or -ai or -Fi) I have the following in /etc/mergemaster.rc instead of having to remember the command line options each time: # Install the new file if it differs only by VCS Id (-F) FREEBSD_ID=yes # # Automatically upgrade files that have not been user modified (-U) AUTO_UPGRADE=yes # # Automatically install files not on the system already (-i) AUTO_INSTALL=yes # # Preserve files that you replace PRESERVE_FILES=yes # # Delete stale files in /etc/rc.d without prompting DELETE_STALE_RC_FILES=yes # # Compare /etc/rc.conf[.local] to /etc/defaults/rc.conf (-C) COMP_CONFS=yes # ## # The following options have no command line overrides ## # # Files to always avoid comparing IGNORE_FILES='/etc/motd /etc/printcap' # # Additional options for diff. This will get unset when using -s. DIFF_OPTIONS='-Bb' # Ignore changes in whitespace -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org - e^(π⋅i) + 1 = 0 -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/I-donot-like-using-mergemastertp29262747p29272211.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with ffmpeg port
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:07 AM, John Francis Lee j...@robinlea.com wrote: Thanks... I did that and ffmpeg did install! But... [...@28amen ~/www/robinlea.com]$ ffmpeg -i introduction.wav introduction.mp3 FFmpeg version 0.6, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 the FFmpeg developers built on Jul 26 2010 22:42:00 with gcc 3.4.6 [FreeBSD] 20060305 configuration: --prefix=/usr/local --mandir=/usr/local/man --enable-shared --enable-gpl --enable-postproc --enable-avfilter --enable-avfilter-lavf --enable-pthreads --enable-x11grab --enable-memalign-hack --cc=cc --extra-cflags=-I/usr/local/include/vorbis -I/usr/local/include --extra-ldflags=-L/usr/local/lib --extra-libs=-pthread --disable-debug --disable-sse --disable-mmx --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-version3 --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-version3 --enable-libdirac --enable-libfaac --enable-nonfree --enable-libfaad --enable-libfaadbin --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid libavutil 50.15. 1 / 50.15. 1 libavcodec 52.72. 2 / 52.72. 2 libavformat 52.64. 2 / 52.64. 2 libavdevice 52. 2. 0 / 52. 2. 0 libavfilter 1.19. 0 / 1.19. 0 libswscale 0.11. 0 / 0.11. 0 libpostproc 51. 2. 0 / 51. 2. 0 Bus error: 10 (core dumped) Hmmm... did you get a ffmpeg.core? If so, what does $ gdb `which ffmpeg` ffmpeg.core followed by 'bt' say? (backtrace) (that's two backquotes around which ffmeg) You may also have some confusion w.r.t. shared libraries. Have a look at $ ldd `which ffmpeg` If you see one library with two different versions in this list, your ffmpeg will likely dump core because it is linked against incompatible libraries. Of course, it could also be something entirely unrelated and different. I had had a look at the manpage for portupgrade and saw a reference to pkgdb -F So I ran that I and noticed a duplicated origin for archivers/xz : Duplicated origin: archivers/xz - lzmautils-4.32.7 xz-4.999.9_1 and so unregistered lzmautils-4.32.7 then cd /ports/multimedia/ffmpeg sudo make deinstall sudo make install Have you recompiled ffmpeg after removing lzmautils-4.32.7? In the listing above, it looks like you simply reinstalled the already compiled ffmpeg (compiled prior to cleaning up lzmautils that is)? but ffmpeg still dumps core. Any further suggestions? -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 1 file system, 2 drives?
Agreed with single user or sequential I/O systems, but with highly concurrent random I/O, more is better. At some point with enough users even sequential I/O becomes random. From: Rich rl...@pacbell.net To: Gary Gatten Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon Jul 26 19:57:28 2010 Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? From: Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 1:41:19 PM Subject: RE: 1 file system, 2 drives? From my experience (YMMV), most RAID controllers will NOT redistribute the existing data/files onto the newly added drives. So, if you have a (3) drive RAID5 your file exists on all three drives, as does the parity data. If you add (2) drives, your original files will not be on the new drives. New files WILL use all (5) drives. IMHO it's best to backup the data (twice), create a new volume on the new RAID, and restore the data. That said, maybe better/newer RAID controllers will redistribute / balance existing data across all drives in the array - I don't know for sure. Either way, backup your data - twice! And make sure it can be restored! Just because the backup app SAYS it's OK, it's NOT OK until it can be successfully restored! Also, if you go from (7) drives to (3), your I/O may suffer. Newer faster drives MAY make up the difference, or make up enough of it that it won't impact your client. Just be aware this is a potential issue. Generally speaking more spindles = more I/O's / sec. G Generally speaking more spindles = more I/O's / sec. and more chance for failure. After a certain point adding more drives to a RAID0 stripe doesn't buy you anything because the first one is ready for the next command before you get very far down the line. -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.orgmailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.orgmailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of John Almberg Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:31 PM To: Chuck Swiger Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.orgmailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1 file system, 2 drives? If you have hardware controller with RAID capabilities, using native RAID is better, otherwise look towards gvinum or maybe ccd; see also: I've just been reading up on RAID in my Absolute FreeBSD book, and it occurs to me that my client has a SCSI RAID drive chassis that he is using stupidly... It's a 14 bay drive, and he's currently got seven 32G drives stuck in it, configured with RAID-0. This is the original 200G drive I was talking about. It's a few years old. Over the next few years, this guy is going to need lots of storage for his videos. After a bit of reading, I'm wondering if the best idea might be to toss out those 32G drives and replace them with 3 big (say, 300G) drives configured with RAID-5. It sounds to me like a RAID-5 array can be expanded by adding new drives. QUESTION: is expansion normally a matter of just plugging in a new drive? Is the new drive automatically grafted onto the old drives? Or do you have to go through a process like, backing up the data, plugging in the new drive, reformatting the expanded array of drives, and restoring the data. I don't know the brand/model of the RAID drive chassis, but the client thinks it can be switched to use RAID 5. I'm waiting for the technical details, but assuming it can handle RAID-5 for now. Thanks: John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.orgmailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.orgmailto:freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.orgmailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.orgmailto:freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain
Re: BSD logo
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apps update from ports
Hello fellas, I was wondering about your update strategy. Do you update your apps as soon as a new version is available in the ports ? Or do you follow the if it works, don't touch it strategy ? I'm guessing portupgrade is your preferred way of doing this hence, do you also choose -P or -PP ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org