Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011, Chris Brennan wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote:
Saw Chris' later message that -F isn't there for him, but here's what
should be, on the data, the sure-fire way to clobber that last sector:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=1465149167
which command SHOULD report just 512 bytes written (we're sure it can't
write past the end of the disk with no count specified), after which:
dd if=/dev/ad4 iseek=1465149167 | hd
SHOULD show zeroes from to 01ff (ie next block 0200)
If not, there really must be some hardware issue with writing?
Hopefully getting there!
Fixit# sysctrl kern.geom.debugflags=16
kern.geom.debugflags: 0 - 16
Fixit# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=1465149167
dd: /dev/ad4: end of device
2+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes transferred in 0.011 secs (51195 bytes/sec)
So that's right.
Fixit# dd if=/dev/ad4 iseek=1465149167 | hd
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
||
512 bytes transferred om 0.009863 secs (51912 bytes/sec)
*
0200
And that's right - the GPT secondary header is now gone.
restarting and back to sysinstall from BETA1 is nice dice ... same original
error ... can I just zero the whole drive?
Sure you can - but I'd be (happy to be) surprised at this point if it's
going to do much good. If nothing else it's a full surface write test,
and you could check afterwards that it's all been zeroed, hd showing
just a few lines (as above) over the whole disk (dd if=/dev/ad4 | hd)
We seem to have ruled out the remnants of a GPT problem, having Bruce
and Warren to thank for pointing it out; it's bound to catch others.
Your dd of the first 71 sectors looked right, MBR looks ok, sectors 1-62
are zeroes, boot1 and boot2 from sector 63-70 seem normal, after you
used 'W' to write anyway; can't say for sure that the bsdlabel is ok,
but see no reason to suppose otherwise. What says 'bsdlabel ad4s1'
while you've still got one?
Just be sure NOT to use the 'A' option for auto-partitioning again; I'm
sure I saw some problem with that on 8.1, not sure if it's fixed on 8.2
(Bruce?) so I suggest allocating the BSD partitioning you really want.
Failing that, I can't see other than a hardware issue, unless somehow
sysinstall is broken and you may do better manually running fdisk and
bsdlabel and newfs per Handbook and manuals? If that worked you could
still use sysinstall, skip fdisk and labelling steps and install the
distributions, ports tree, doc packages and other sysinstall goodies.
If it still persisted after that I'd subscribe and report the issue to
freebsd-stable in as much detail as needed for some more fresh eyes.
cheers, Ian
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Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:06:42 +1100 (EST) Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: Just be sure NOT to use the 'A' option for auto-partitioning again; I'm sure I saw some problem with that on 8.1, not sure if it's fixed on 8.2 (Bruce?) so I suggest allocating the BSD partitioning you really want. I've not fixed anything related to that. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Swap Space
On 05/01/2011 22:33, Jeff Whitman wrote: I'm finding conflicting data on this. Some say 0, some say 1 times RAM, others say stay with 2 x RAM. Standard advice is 2x RAM -- but that dates back to the days when servers would have quantities of RAM measured in Megabytes rather than Gigabytes. 2 X RAM is a lot of disk space nowadays -- so either you'll need to find some other use for that space; eg. as a swap-backed /tmp partition, or else provide less swap. Also, there's a maximum of -- I think -- 8GB swap above which the performance of swap is degraded, due to algorithmic limits in the way memory pages are mapped onto disk pages. You need 1 x RAM + a few kB in order to support getting a crashdump. Or at least, you did before the days of minidumps. Not sure what the requirements are for getting system dumps nowadays. Swap space used for crashdumps should be a raw partition, not a file. On the other hand, for good performance you should not be using any significant amounts of swap in normal usage. You will need some swap, as the OS tends to use a small amount even when not under memory pressure. You should have swap to act as a buffer in case your machine suddenly starts using up more memory than you expect, either because of memory leaks, or due to demand spikes or through any number of other possible causes. Therefore, I think the best advice for a modern large memory system would be: If RAM 8GB, then SWAP = 8GB[*] If RAM 8GB, then SWAP = 1 x RAM + delta where delta is perhaps a Megabyte or so. Just rounding the partition size up to the next cylinder boundary should be enough (which happens automatically with most partitioning schemes). Cheers, Matthew [*] In this case, if you need crashdumps, you should dedicate another otherwise unused partition of the correct size as your dumpdev. -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: a perl question
On 05/01/2011 22:15, RW wrote: Personally I find that using cat makes things simpler and less error prone when reusing pipelines in shell history. For example it's easier to edit cat file | foo into cat file | bar | foo or cat file? | foo than editing foo file into bar file | foo or cat file? | foo Little known factoid -- shell redirections can occur *anywhere* on the command line. % foo cat abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz % foo tr 'a-z' 'm-za-l' mnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijkl Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote Your dd of the first 71 sectors looked right, MBR looks ok, sectors 1-62 are zeroes, boot1 and boot2 from sector 63-70 seem normal, after you used 'W' to write anyway; can't say for sure that the bsdlabel is ok, but see no reason to suppose otherwise. What says 'bsdlabel ad4s1' while you've still got one? This is a pretty easy problem to replicate if you are pressing W, and that issue has existed for quite some time. If you press W then Q at sysinstall fdisk then attempt to force write disklabel screens you will get the error. Just setup the slices and partitions as you want and let sysinstall handle the writing of information. There is a big warning box that says not to use force write except under certain conditions and this is not one of them. If you google the error message in the OP, the first result is: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1675 Failing that, I can't see other than a hardware issue, unless somehow sysinstall is broken and you may do better manually running fdisk and bsdlabel and newfs per Handbook and manuals? This doesn't say hardware error to me at all, at least not a disk hardware issue. The message was present across two disks, and if there truly is a problem writing to the media a complete zeroing of the drive would be apparent then. While we're getting people to look at sysinstall and the auto resizing, it would be nice to get the Unable to create the partition. Too big? issue resolved. You can trigger this by auto-sizing the partitions, deleting a couple and recreating one that a different size than one autosize suggested. Then create the second partion using the auto-populated value in partition size box. Typically run into this when making / a little bigger on amd64 installs by borrowing some space from /usr. It's very tedious to slowly decrease the size of the second partition in your attempts to create it if you're trying to utilize the whole drive. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:11:55 +, Bruce Cran wrote: On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:06:42 +1100 (EST) Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: Just be sure NOT to use the 'A' option for auto-partitioning again; I'm sure I saw some problem with that on 8.1, not sure if it's fixed on 8.2 (Bruce?) so I suggest allocating the BSD partitioning you really want. I've not fixed anything related to that. Oh, I must have dreamed it all; found nothing in local -stable archives, went hunting on sysinstall cvsweb but found anything there, don't know how to search svn yet; life's too short. Thanks for teaching some GPT. Sorry, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
/ file system is full, but du does not show that it's full
# df -h Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a496M466M -9.8M 102%/ So it's full. But by du it's not appeared to be full # du -hxd 1 / 2.0K/.snap 512B/dev 2.0K/tmp 2.0K/usr 2.0K/var 1.9M/etc 2.0K/cdrom 2.0K/dist 1.0M/bin 131M/boot 10M/lib 356K/libexec 2.0K/media 12K/mnt 2.0K/proc 7.2M/rescue 296K/root 4.7M/sbin 4.0K/lost+found 157M/ I know that something (like running process) can hold file so it's actually are not deleted. I rebooted server. But this not helped, so it's not a process holding file. Checked with fsck # fsck / ** /dev/ad0s1a (NO WRITE) ** Last Mounted on / ** Root file system ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 47268 files, 238539 used, 15276 free (6684 frags, 1074 blocks, 2.6% fragmentation) No problems here. # uname -a FreeBSD host.domain.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 #0: Tue Dec 28 13:55:47 MSK 2010 r...@host.domain.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 What's the problem here? Why df says that filesystem is full? Other command may also say that can't write because file system is full. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full
What about filehandlers? On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:26 AM, c0re wrote: # df -h Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a496M466M -9.8M 102%/ So it's full. But by du it's not appeared to be full # du -hxd 1 / 2.0K/.snap 512B/dev 2.0K/tmp 2.0K/usr 2.0K/var 1.9M/etc 2.0K/cdrom 2.0K/dist 1.0M/bin 131M/boot 10M/lib 356K/libexec 2.0K/media 12K/mnt 2.0K/proc 7.2M/rescue 296K/root 4.7M/sbin 4.0K/lost+found 157M/ I know that something (like running process) can hold file so it's actually are not deleted. I rebooted server. But this not helped, so it's not a process holding file. Checked with fsck # fsck / ** /dev/ad0s1a (NO WRITE) ** Last Mounted on / ** Root file system ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 47268 files, 238539 used, 15276 free (6684 frags, 1074 blocks, 2.6% fragmentation) No problems here. # uname -a FreeBSD host.domain.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 #0: Tue Dec 28 13:55:47 MSK 2010 r...@host.domain.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 What's the problem here? Why df says that filesystem is full? Other command may also say that can't write because file system is full. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full
On 06/01/2011 11:26, c0re wrote: # df -h Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a496M466M -9.8M 102%/ So it's full. But by du it's not appeared to be full # du -hxd 1 / 2.0K/.snap 512B/dev 2.0K/tmp 2.0K/usr 2.0K/var 1.9M/etc 2.0K/cdrom 2.0K/dist 1.0M/bin 131M/boot 10M/lib 356K/libexec 2.0K/media 12K/mnt 2.0K/proc 7.2M/rescue 296K/root 4.7M/sbin 4.0K/lost+found 157M/ Do you have partitions mounted at /tmp, /usr, /var etc? Does the output of your du command change if you unmount those partitions? (It might be an idea to boot into a livefs CD or DVD given that du(1) lives in /usr/bin, so a bit tricky to unmount /usr and then run du) My guess is that you've at one time created files beneath what is usually a mount point. Mounting the partition over them makes those files inaccessible, but they still take up space on the drive. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full
2011/1/6 Ryan Coleman ryan.cole...@cwis.biz: What about filehandlers? On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:26 AM, c0re wrote: # df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 496M 466M -9.8M 102% / So it's full. But by du it's not appeared to be full # du -hxd 1 / 2.0K /.snap 512B /dev 2.0K /tmp 2.0K /usr 2.0K /var 1.9M /etc 2.0K /cdrom 2.0K /dist 1.0M /bin 131M /boot 10M /lib 356K /libexec 2.0K /media 12K /mnt 2.0K /proc 7.2M /rescue 296K /root 4.7M /sbin 4.0K /lost+found 157M / I know that something (like running process) can hold file so it's actually are not deleted. I rebooted server. But this not helped, so it's not a process holding file. Checked with fsck # fsck / ** /dev/ad0s1a (NO WRITE) ** Last Mounted on / ** Root file system ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 47268 files, 238539 used, 15276 free (6684 frags, 1074 blocks, 2.6% fragmentation) No problems here. # uname -a FreeBSD host.domain.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 #0: Tue Dec 28 13:55:47 MSK 2010 r...@host.domain.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 What's the problem here? Why df says that filesystem is full? Other command may also say that can't write because file system is full. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org fstat does not show full filepath so I uses lsof from ports lsof does not show anything criminal # lsof / COMMANDPID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME init 1 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / init 1 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / init 1 root txt VREG 0,81 632348 33074 /sbin/init firmware 5 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / firmware 5 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / adjkerntz 145 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / adjkerntz 145 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / adjkerntz 145 root txt VREG 0,81 7448 16481 /sbin/adjkerntz adjkerntz 145 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 adjkerntz 145 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 devd 487 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / devd 487 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / devd 487 root txt VREG 0,81 369684 32969 /sbin/devd syslogd564 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / syslogd564 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / syslogd564 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 syslogd564 root txt VREG 0,8155240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 syslogd564 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 rpcbind650 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / rpcbind650 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / rpcbind650 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 rpcbind650 root txt VREG 0,8155240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 rpcbind650 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 snmpd 690 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / snmpd 690 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / snmpd 690 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 snmpd 690 root txt VREG 0,8132024 50740 /lib/libcrypt.so.4 snmpd 690 root txt VREG 0,8155240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 snmpd 690 root txt VREG 0,8192720 50743 /lib/libm.so.5 snmpd 690 root txt VREG 0,8129916 50741 /lib/libkvm.so.4 snmpd 690 root txt VREG 0,8118788 50761 /lib/libdevstat.so.6 snmpd 690 root txt VREG 0,81 1417668 50595 /lib/libcrypto.so.5 snmpd 690 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 sh 751 mysql cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / sh 751 mysql rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / sh 751 mysql txt VREG 0,81 115388 33069 /bin/sh sh 751 mysql txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 sh 751 mysql txt VREG 0,8188492 50751 /lib/libedit.so.6 sh 751 mysql txt VREG 0,81 261484 50738 /lib/libncurses.so.7 sh 751 mysql txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 mysqld 800 mysql rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,8164300 49385 /lib/libz.so.3 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,8128768 58494 /lib/libcrypt.so.3 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,8195120 49378 /lib/libm.so.4 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 140320 49370 /lib/libpthread.so.2 mysqld 800 mysql txt
Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full
2011/1/6 Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk: On 06/01/2011 11:26, c0re wrote: # df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 496M 466M -9.8M 102% / So it's full. But by du it's not appeared to be full # du -hxd 1 / 2.0K /.snap 512B /dev 2.0K /tmp 2.0K /usr 2.0K /var 1.9M /etc 2.0K /cdrom 2.0K /dist 1.0M /bin 131M /boot 10M /lib 356K /libexec 2.0K /media 12K /mnt 2.0K /proc 7.2M /rescue 296K /root 4.7M /sbin 4.0K /lost+found 157M / Do you have partitions mounted at /tmp, /usr, /var etc? Does the output of your du command change if you unmount those partitions? (It might be an idea to boot into a livefs CD or DVD given that du(1) lives in /usr/bin, so a bit tricky to unmount /usr and then run du) My guess is that you've at one time created files beneath what is usually a mount point. Mounting the partition over them makes those files inaccessible, but they still take up space on the drive. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW Nice idea! But I can't check it now - server is may hundred km away and no KVM aviable. Will check it 1 or 2 weeks later. Checked only /tmp - it was ok, no files there after unmount. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Adam Vande More wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote Your dd of the first 71 sectors looked right, MBR looks ok, sectors 1-62 are zeroes, boot1 and boot2 from sector 63-70 seem normal, after you used 'W' to write anyway; can't say for sure that the bsdlabel is ok, but see no reason to suppose otherwise. What says 'bsdlabel ad4s1' while you've still got one? This is a pretty easy problem to replicate if you are pressing W, and that issue has existed for quite some time. If you press W then Q at sysinstall fdisk then attempt to force write disklabel screens you will get the error. Just setup the slices and partitions as you want and let sysinstall handle the writing of information. There is a big warning box that says not to use force write except under certain conditions and this is not one of them. Adam, I think you may have missed a lot from the earlier messages in this thread. Admittedly it's long and likely tedious, but trying to help somebody get the OS installed is about as basic as it gets for me; I'd be hugely relieved if someone with more / better clues took it on. We didn't get to try W)rite from the fdisk and label screens until long after all attempts at letting sysinstall deal with things had failed to even slice the disk, bombing on this error every time. Chris' disk is brand new, nothing installed. W)riting from sysinstall succeeded at least in creating ad4s1 in the MBR and writing the bootblocks to that slice. I made it very clear this is not something to do without due care; in the circumstances there was absolutely nothing to be lost. And then the GPT issue, of which I was totally ignorant. Fixed. If you google the error message in the OP, the first result is: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1675 I can't see anything there that informs any solution to this issue, that doesn't cover everything Chris has tried. If you can, please elaborate? Failing that, I can't see other than a hardware issue, unless somehow sysinstall is broken and you may do better manually running fdisk and bsdlabel and newfs per Handbook and manuals? This doesn't say hardware error to me at all, at least not a disk hardware issue. The message was present across two disks, and if there truly is a problem writing to the media a complete zeroing of the drive would be apparent then. Chris has this issue with one disk only, so I'm not sure what you mean? If it's not hardware related (or HP firmware, as Mike suggested), maybe it is an issue with sysinstall. Manual fdisk bsdlabel newfs would confirm that or otherwise, but Chris will have to hunt up mans, docs and howtos on doing that himself, they're out there. On the other hand it's useful learning, and nothing he tries can make matters any worse. [ I can't comment on auto-allocated partitions, the last time I thought that was even vaguely a useful idea was my first install of 2.2.6 :^] If you have any spare magic dust to sprinkle on this, please do so. cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full
Concrete jungle, oh freebsd-questions, you've got to do your best... 2011/01/06 15:06:18 +0300 c0re nr1c...@gmail.com = To FreeBSD : cr # lsof / why not to restart your httpd and mysqld? This may release your unused filehandles. Another place to look for wasted space is filesystem snapshots, if any. They can be created implicitly, e. g., by fsck. And... why lsof and not fstat(1)? 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full
Concrete jungle, oh freebsd-questions, you've got to do your best... 2011/01/06 16:57:34 +0300 Peter Vereshagin pe...@vereshagin.org = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : PV This may release your unused filehandles. used but unlinked, really, oops. 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full
Server has been rebooted before to try this. Chris Sorry for top-posting, Android won't let me quote, but K-9 can't yet do threading. On 6 Jan 2011 14:06, Peter Vereshagin pe...@vereshagin.org wrote: Concrete jungle, oh freebsd-questions, you've got to do your best... 2011/01/06 16:57:34 +0300 Peter Vereshagin pe...@vereshagin.org = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : PV This may release your unused filehandles. used but unlinked, really, oops. 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full
why not to restart your httpd and mysqld? This may release your unused filehandles. As I said I've restarted whole server, so nothing there to release at all. Another place to look for wasted space is filesystem snapshots, if any. They can be created implicitly, e. g., by fsck. Yeah, I checked /.snap - nothing there. And... why lsof and not fstat(1)? As I mentioned - fstat does not show full path including filename like lsof does. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full
On 06.01.2011 15:19, c0re wrote: why not to restart your httpd and mysqld? This may release your unused filehandles. As I said I've restarted whole server, so nothing there to release at all. Another place to look for wasted space is filesystem snapshots, if any. They can be created implicitly, e. g., by fsck. Yeah, I checked /.snap - nothing there. Reboot into single user mode, and check with du -hs /* before the system mounts other FS'es than / //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full
Concrete jungle, oh freebsd-questions, you've got to do your best... 2011/01/06 17:19:05 +0300 c0re nr1c...@gmail.com = To FreeBSD : cr Another place to look for wasted space is filesystem snapshots, if any. They cr can be created implicitly, e. g., by fsck. cr Yeah, I checked /.snap - nothing there. snapshot is represented as a file of a special type that can be located anywhere oin a file system, not only the /.snap/. Try snainfo -a. 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
sysinstall error on 8.2-PRE
Dear people, I have a strange problem. On one system that I am running, I cannot use sysinstall to do partition/label for a disk. This problem seems peculiar to this OS, somewhere. When I launch sysinstall, I get some funny message appear on the screen (see http://lix.in/-9b7e16 for an image). From there I choose custom - partition Select the disk then enter partition editor. The cursor simply refuses to move from there, though keyboard is active. What may be the cause? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: blog-site questions....
If you're looking to pay a little for this, I might recommend you check out Squarespace[1]. They have some great content management features and some wonderful templates, which are completely customizable. Probably the best way to see how it works is to view the tour[2]. And finally, you can get 14 days to try it completely free. You don't even need a credit card to sign up, and if you use the offer code TWIT (from the This Week in Tech podcast with Leo Laporte), you can get 10% off the price for the life of your account[3]. Even if you don't decide to go with Squarespace, I'd reinforce one thing Chris said: If you want to promote some of your written work ... get a domain Perhaps you could use a sub-domain on your thought.org domain, but I would say that anyone using those free blog services (wordpress.com / blogger / livejournal) for a for professional reason, well... aren't very professional, in my opinion. ;-) Wordpress (the software)[4] is rather easy to install on your own servers, and has a nice, easy-to-use administration panel. There are tons of themes and plugins available for it, so it's quite customizable as well. Hope that helps some. :-) [1] http://www.squarespace.com/ [2] http://www.squarespace.com/tour/ [3] http://www.squarespace.com/twit [4] http://wordpress.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Swap Space
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:42:36AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 05/01/2011 22:33, Jeff Whitman wrote: I'm finding conflicting data on this. Some say 0, some say 1 times RAM, others say stay with 2 x RAM. Standard advice is 2x RAM -- but that dates back to the days when servers would have quantities of RAM measured in Megabytes rather than Gigabytes. Of course, in those days disk space was measured in MBytes too. Also, there's a maximum of -- I think -- 8GB swap above which the performance of swap is degraded, due to algorithmic limits in the way memory pages are mapped onto disk pages. I don't know about an 8GB limit for swap performance. I suppose it is possible.So, the following formula from Mathew is probably a good new rule of thumb. You need 1 x RAM + a few kB in order to support getting a crashdump. Or at least, you did before the days of minidumps. Not sure what the requirements are for getting system dumps nowadays. Swap space used for crashdumps should be a raw partition, not a file. jerry On the other hand, for good performance you should not be using any significant amounts of swap in normal usage. You will need some swap, as the OS tends to use a small amount even when not under memory pressure. You should have swap to act as a buffer in case your machine suddenly starts using up more memory than you expect, either because of memory leaks, or due to demand spikes or through any number of other possible causes. Therefore, I think the best advice for a modern large memory system would be: If RAM 8GB, then SWAP = 8GB[*] If RAM 8GB, then SWAP = 1 x RAM + delta where delta is perhaps a Megabyte or so. Just rounding the partition size up to the next cylinder boundary should be enough (which happens automatically with most partitioning schemes). Cheers, Matthew [*] In this case, if you need crashdumps, you should dedicate another otherwise unused partition of the correct size as your dumpdev. -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?
I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way, and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the install/upgrade process. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 07:45:28AM -0800, patrick wrote: I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way, and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the install/upgrade process. It might work. But, I think you would save a lot of headache and time to just do a new scratch install of 8.xx (8.2 should be here soon). First, make a thorough list of everything that is installed on the old machine.List info from disk slice[s] and partitions and other configuration items. Then make copies (backups) of all user data and anything that needs to be kept from the old system and is not being newly installed from ports and such. Now would be a good/great time to replace/upgrade the hard disk or install a second (third..., etc) disk. Rethink the partitioning according to current usage and disk sizes. Then just build a new machine, configure it appropriately, install the ports and any other possible software - latest versions. Then restore all the user data that is needed on the new system and you should be ready to go. (Some old data may better be left in archive) jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd and
thanks. i am looking into the suggestions. best gahn --- On Wed, 1/5/11, Indexer inde...@internode.on.net wrote: From: Indexer inde...@internode.on.net Subject: Re: freebsd and To: Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com Cc: gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com, freebsd general questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 4:53 PM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/01/2011, at 07:02, Bill Moran wrote: (don't see why this was on -current) In response to gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com: hi all: i set up the freeradius 21.100.1 on freebsd 8.1. it uses local authentication database of /etc/passwd (thanks to the previous discussions alan did with others). the problem is: it only works with the condition of the server id running as root instead of freeradius due to the one way MD5 hash of /etc/passwd file. are there any other better ways to implement this? a) Put the Radius server in a jail, so it can run as root without all the security concerns. b) Use something other than /etc/passwd authentication Cant radius use pam? perhaps you should look into that. It may be a pain though, freeradius is largely undocumented, and what documentation exists is often incomplete, incorrect and full of people touting IT JUST WORKS when 99% of the time, It never works. Once you figure it out however, its great. I would highly recommend putting your raddb into a version control system. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org William Brown pgp.mit.edu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNJRKdAAoJEHF16AnLoz6Je6YP/j5sfpXOReiyviyNututzGfA dS+/6MoBfumuzdLAxTZ5gCJ4r7hIWJSbl0vPbt8zDbigcGJKcuT63dfdeAsV/7vu /0KqeC1HbrS5mXB2bVVjUvxgm+LbTlTrS8pIkS3A1jWSvvYgqb5ABXL2gXDARJig pQ5Ehw/mJsgNNmYOrHD1FV5H1/0s0arXSK6rK/sJa7qBIyuLvfuatfK2NOFlPAr5 ST1UqvGrEVP5vA4GGO3+l4m7CBIuzVBuVaLpTpsHUXcdjxoB0bgZrR6se42z7VFo PgClT1bKv/Ht8rD9EO6oRpASAHB89/K1HpNvHbV9KT+veuKcla0xVPilpyt+XMES c4iDxwOBzml+N6QPiGdD9+GhfvZbg2JBgHoGYFXclyDJFceiDVkMgTWN75miB+d4 tMTZbtwkQNoobRmp/BCAlVqRJC3dUQeVqDSAUkuMf6ZU0WQWfh6g8qtGb0IA5mWH u0mRbBacEr4kx3bSeIzCb09DJMkDFmb1/kaQPVqUEYpU+ggW8yLV5sz/vdomdpRB 6hUfcXHnGK/GY4FsMPHaLTWghHdG6cFv8XwM/8ftsrCTtJYl0mD8xzSxqeTBCrua VPHcZ0d4gxe7reylYZfp8NqTAK96JBkRqEoTtYyi6Oiy8kbolY8SHiok98o/uydT nGM30URjS7EC7oSyL4N5 =ppAO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?
patrick writes: I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way, and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the install/upgrade process. While this may not be an option, my preference would be to 1) build a new machine, 2) install 8.1, 3) install the apps and data, 4) test thoroughly, then 5) ship the result to the remote location. Anything else is likely to be too painful for words. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: blog-site questions....
Quoth Gary Kline on Wednesday, 05 January 2011: Guys, If there are any people who are into maintaining web logs/blog, this might be _the_ place to ask. O/wise, type 'd' now. One thing I've heard several times is that blogging is a good way of promoting one's own books. (I've got at least three books either published or to-be-published. [[ ... .]]) Now, outside this list nobody knows me--and that's fine, except that with a just published ebook, it's time to make my name and ebook public. Before I rush out and sign up with some blogging websites, would be be better to use a FBSD port and do it myself? Ill be open about this: I'm still not _entirely_ sure whata blog is. But I'm a fast study :) If there are better places to ask about web logs, URL's please... . gary PS: Any reason why nobody here has read my ebook? It is for geeks and about op en source stuff, so, like , v'mon, people -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I use WordPress hosted on my own domains. As others have mentioned, it's pretty easy to maintain. It also does a lot of the SEO for you. For instance, when you add new content, the default configuration automatically notifies various ping servers so that aggregators (and Google) pick up the new content right away. Extensions can be found for just about anything you need, and they aren't that hard to write if you don't find what you're looking for. OTOH, WordPress can be pretty heavy on page loads unless you go to some pains to optimize it. For most people, that isn't a concern -- but if you were to have the enviable problem of getting a few thousand or more hits per day then it could become an issue. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpST39IcGtys.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?
On 1/6/2011 11:27 AM, Robert Huff wrote: patrick writes: I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way, and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the install/upgrade process. While this may not be an option, my preference would be to 1) build a new machine, 2) install 8.1, 3) install the apps and data, 4) test thoroughly, then 5) ship the result to the remote location. Anything else is likely to be too painful for words. How old is the hardware as well? If its running 4.x, something is going to die on it sooner than later. I agree with the above. Send a new box or at the very least a new disk with 8.2 on it. Then, just mount the old 4.x disk and copy over the user data. ---Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sysinstall error on 8.2-PRE
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:38:33 +0300 Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com wrote: I have a strange problem. On one system that I am running, I cannot use sysinstall to do partition/label for a disk. This problem seems peculiar to this OS, somewhere. When I launch sysinstall, I get some funny message appear on the screen (see http://lix.in/-9b7e16 for an image). From there I choose custom - partition Select the disk then enter partition editor. The cursor simply refuses to move from there, though keyboard is active. The problem is that geom has been extended with additional types (e.g. glabel, gsched) that libdisk doesn't know about - so it gets confused. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sysinstall error on 8.2-PRE
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:38:33 +0300 Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com wrote: I have a strange problem. On one system that I am running, I cannot use sysinstall to do partition/label for a disk. This problem seems peculiar to this OS, somewhere. When I launch sysinstall, I get some funny message appear on the screen (see http://lix.in/-9b7e16 for an image). From there I choose custom - partition Select the disk then enter partition editor. The cursor simply refuses to move from there, though keyboard is active. The problem is that geom has been extended with additional types (e.g. glabel, gsched) that libdisk doesn't know about - so it gets confused. So, how do I fix/manoeuvre around that problem? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sysinstall error on 8.2-PRE
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:13:08 +0300 Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com wrote: So, how do I fix/manoeuvre around that problem? Unfortunately you'd need to use a different tool to partition/label the disk, such as gpart. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
sendmail panic - savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere
Hi! I'm encountering this most curious error on a fairly new FreeBSD 8 machine and I'm just not sure where to go with this. The Error: Jan 6 12:56:31 sendmail[1600]: p06HuRGB001600: Losing ./qfp06HuRGB001600: savemail panic Jan 6 12:56:31 sendmail[1600]: p06HuRGB001600: SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere uname -a: FreeBSD .root 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:48:17 UTC 2009 r...@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Unless my understanding of mathematics is way off, I've got more than enough room: Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a496M180M277M39%/ devfs 1.0K1.0K 0B 100%/dev /dev/ad0s1e496M 14K456M 0%/tmp /dev/ad0s1f 24G5.7G 17G26%/usr /dev/ad0s1d1.3G 18M1.2G 1%/var Any insight on what is happening/causing this would be beyond awesome. :). -- Lydia Rowe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sendmail panic - savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere
On 06/01/2011 17:04, Lydia Rowe wrote: cannot save rejected email anywhere savemail panics occur when sendmail is unable to deliver a bounced message to the postmaster alias. (from googling :) http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/savemail_panic_in_Sendmail.html -- - Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting - t: 0131 5548070 m: 07534206249 e: p...@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com - IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA - ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: the GIMP and Samba
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:36:12 +0100 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: Welcome to the glory of rapid application development and modern programming! :-) Somebody could write a letter to the ACM: Dynamic Linking Considered Harmful ... or sth in that vicinity -- Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 1 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: sendmail panic - savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere
Lydia Rowe wrote: Hi! I'm encountering this most curious error on a fairly new FreeBSD 8 machine and I'm just not sure where to go with this. The Error: Jan 6 12:56:31 sendmail[1600]: p06HuRGB001600: Losing ./qfp06HuRGB001600: savemail panic Jan 6 12:56:31 sendmail[1600]: p06HuRGB001600: SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere uname -a: FreeBSD .root 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:48:17 UTC 2009 r...@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Unless my understanding of mathematics is way off, I've got more than enough room: Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a496M180M277M39%/ devfs 1.0K1.0K 0B 100%/dev /dev/ad0s1e496M 14K456M 0%/tmp /dev/ad0s1f 24G5.7G 17G26%/usr /dev/ad0s1d1.3G 18M1.2G 1%/var Any insight on what is happening/causing this would be beyond awesome. :). -- Lydia Rowe When I've had that err message I check my /etc/mail/sendmail.cf is up to newest release to match the .mc binaries from source, then check all path in the .cf exist, check access permissions. Then the problem goes away. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, or HTML or base 64. Avoid top posting, it cripples itemised cumulative responses. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sendmail panic - savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 17:47 +, Paul Macdonald wrote: On 06/01/2011 17:04, Lydia Rowe wrote: cannot save rejected email anywhere savemail panics occur when sendmail is unable to deliver a bounced message to the postmaster alias. (from googling :) http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/savemail_panic_in_Sendmail.html Ah, thank you. That helped. In case these archives help someone in the future, here's what hapened: Armed with this information, I took another run at the logs and there was a problem with the hostname, which was: .root Yeah, so I updated the hostname and savemail isn't panicking anymore and neither am I. :). Thanks, all! -- Lydia ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: Adam, I think you may have missed a lot from the earlier messages in this thread. Admittedly it's long and likely tedious, but trying to help somebody get the OS installed is about as basic as it gets for me; I'd be hugely relieved if someone with more / better clues took it on. Actually, I've been following every post since the thread's inception. Despite your listing of generally good advice, the most obvious cause theis error msg(of an admitted newbie) was not explicitly ruled out. I'm simply saying you should start there. Chris has this issue with one disk only, so I'm not sure what you mean? Earlier in the thread, the OP stated he tried to install on a Micro SD card and got the exact same result. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: Adam, I think you may have missed a lot from the earlier messages in this thread. Admittedly it's long and likely tedious, but trying to help somebody get the OS installed is about as basic as it gets for me; I'd be hugely relieved if someone with more / better clues took it on. Actually, I've been following every post since the thread's inception. Despite your listing of generally good advice, the most obvious cause theis error msg(of an admitted newbie) was not explicitly ruled out. I'm simply saying you should start there. Chris has this issue with one disk only, so I'm not sure what you mean? Earlier in the thread, the OP stated he tried to install on a Micro SD card and got the exact same result. I see now the SD Card was not the install target, but regarding the the original point to OP was able to preform other normal operations on the card eg different FS. I don't really think the OP was pressing W initially which is why I didn't say anything earlier, just saying it's worth a check. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Configuring BCE Interrupt Coalescing on 8.1-RELEASE
Hi All, I am looking to configure interrupt coalescing for a bce interface in 8.1-RELEASE. Everything I have found via google only points to the bce manpage, which only identifies that interrupt coalescing is supported with no information with regards to configuring it. Where can I find information on configuring it? -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Configuring BCE Interrupt Coalescing on 8.1-RELEASE
In the last episode (Jan 06), Rick Miller said: I am looking to configure interrupt coalescing for a bce interface in 8.1-RELEASE. Everything I have found via google only points to the bce manpage, which only identifies that interrupt coalescing is supported with no information with regards to configuring it. Where can I find information on configuring it? After a quick readthrough of the source, it looks like it's always enabled unless you had built the driver with BCE_DEBUG enabled. The values aren't exposed via sysctl for you to view or edit. http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/dev/bce/if_bce.c?v=FREEBSD81#L1012 -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: blog-site questions....
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 08:53:24AM -0600, Bryan H. wrote: If you're looking to pay a little for this, I might recommend you check out Squarespace[1]. They have some great content management features and some wonderful templates, which are completely customizable. Probably the best way to see how it works is to view the tour[2]. And finally, you can get 14 days to try it completely free. You don't even need a credit card to sign up, and if you use the offer code TWIT (from the This Week in Tech podcast with Leo Laporte), you can get 10% off the price for the life of your account[3]. Even if you don't decide to go with Squarespace, I'd reinforce one thing Chris said: If you want to promote some of your written work ... get a domain Perhaps you could use a sub-domain on your thought.org domain, but I would say that anyone using those free blog services (wordpress.com / blogger / livejournal) for a for professional reason, well... aren't very professional, in my opinion. ;-) Wordpress (the software)[4] is rather easy to install on your own servers, and has a nice, easy-to-use administration panel. There are tons of themes and plugins available for it, so it's quite customizable as well. Hope that helps some. :-) [1] http://www.squarespace.com/ [2] http://www.squarespace.com/tour/ [3] http://www.squarespace.com/twit [4] http://wordpress.org/ I don't know what happened to my .signature before, but I already have several virtual/sub domains. i have already begun to promote Journey at journey.thought.org. I've also [finally] joined Facebook, and begun reading books and articles on howto promote one's own books. If, as Chris suggests, sites like Blogger.com are for blogging, why not use a free site there? Or build out my own page called, eg, journey.yhought.org/myblog/? Most of my day is spent on one of my project areas [[ BTW, my speech-computer project has actually proved out(!)]]. In just the past few days I have begun building out my amazom.com site and asking questions on their forums. I haven't paid much attention to blogs so far. I occasionally ramble on about what's on my mind on my transfinite.thought.org site, but I check, double- and triple-check my facts and then footnote them. So back to the idea of my getting into blogging as a means of promoting: is a blog suppose to be a factual discussion? Opinions? Gossip? This has helped, thanks. I don't think blogging is going to help me that much because there aren't that many of us geeks, and certainly many fewer with disabilities. I'll look at our wordpress port and see. gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: I see now the SD Card was not the install target, but regarding the the original point to OP was able to preform other normal operations on the card eg different FS. I don't really think the OP was pressing W initially which is why I didn't say anything earlier, just saying it's worth a check. There is also this issue here which looks to be quite similar. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=135040cat= You can try to upgrade your BIOS and reduced physical memory or use the suggested loader.conf setting(or boot prompt) -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?
I know I'll take heat from everyone else who responded saying to effectively ship a new box. But maybe this user has significant costs involved with that. Along with any other reasons... v4 to v8 can be done. I've done it entirely live over the net. Nothing crazy about it. The basic idea is that there are too many changes and tools involved to fart around with build/install world, mergemaster, CD's, sysinstall, etc. And they're just not aware of such a jump. And you can't trust the idiots on the other end to get it right even if they would work. You are the SA, free your mind. To the initiate, it would be harrowing. To the seasoned SA, it's logical cake. So backup your entire 4.x box over the wire, there will be no return. Go find a box and install v8 however you want it. If you fail, this one goes to the shipper asap. You can use a vm but that will take longer to ship. You are very wise to also install a v4 box and overlay your backup on it first for testing the entire process. If you failed to heed SA wisdom about separating / /usr /usr/local /var /home /boot, free space, etc on the original v4 box, your life will be much harder. But if you have a ton of unpartitioned free space on it, you can fix that one at a time too ;) Be very aware of boot sectors, loaders, partitions, slices, fstab, sizes, /dev, ifconfig, packet filters, kernel config, etc. That kills most people. Also, since all your apps will be pristine v8 vers, you need to sort out their use of the old data and config. If you have space, rsync -Haxi upload your v8 mountpoints to separate staging dirs on the v4 box. It helps narrow your power fail window :) Get on the v4 box. If you've got console, re boot -s. If not, take it down till only init, sh and sshd remain. If you have space, rsync your current v4 mountpoints to some backup dirs. You're going to need static versions of rsync, openssh, sh, su, and any other tools. You'll need to kill and run the static sshd... re: fstat, umount, libs, etc. If you want, truncate /etc/rc to load only static sshd from /root. This gives you some chance at recovery. Again, do a local trial run to figure out what, where and when you want or need all the tricks and in what order. Mount everything read-write and rsync -Haxi --delete from your v8 staging dirs (whether local or remote) over top of the live but now library freed v4 mountpoints. Reboot ;) Don't forget to lay down new boot sectors etc as and when needed during or after the above. It works, don't complain to me or this list if you break it :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: blog-site questions....
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 08:29:48AM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Gary Kline on Wednesday, 05 January 2011: Guys, If there are any people who are into maintaining web logs/blog, this might be _the_ place to ask. O/wise, type 'd' now. One thing I've heard several times is that blogging is a good way of promoting one's own books. (I've got at least three books either published or to-be-published. [[ ... .]]) Now, outside this list nobody knows me--and that's fine, except that with a just published ebook, it's time to make my name and ebook public. Before I rush out and sign up with some blogging websites, would be be better to use a FBSD port and do it myself? Ill be open about this: I'm still not _entirely_ sure whata blog is. But I'm a fast study :) If there are better places to ask about web logs, URL's please... . gary PS: Any reason why nobody here has read my ebook? It is for geeks and about op en source stuff, so, like , v'mon, people -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I use WordPress hosted on my own domains. As others have mentioned, it's pretty easy to maintain. It also does a lot of the SEO for you. For instance, when you add new content, the default configuration automatically notifies various ping servers so that aggregators (and Google) pick up the new content right away. Extensions can be found for just about anything you need, and they aren't that hard to write if you don't find what you're looking for. OTOH, WordPress can be pretty heavy on page loads unless you go to some pains to optimize it. For most people, that isn't a concern -- but if you were to have the enviable problem of getting a few thousand or more hits per day then it could become an issue. T.Y! WOrdpress it is. (Last time I checked, I gave up at once--maybe sooner. Time for a more serious look.) gary -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011, Ian Smith wrote: Manual fdisk bsdlabel newfs would confirm that or otherwise, but Chris will have to hunt up mans, docs and howtos on doing that himself, they're out there. Aha! http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html May/may not be helpful, but the price is right. Feedback welcome. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: blog-site questions....
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: I don't know what happened to my .signature before, but I already have several virtual/sub domains. i have already begun to promote Journey at journey.thought.org. I've also [finally] joined Facebook, and begun reading books and articles on howto promote one's own books. If, as Chris suggests, sites like Blogger.com are for blogging, why not use a free site there? Or build out my own page called, eg, journey.yhought.org/myblog/? Blogger and the like are for blogging, of a personal nature. For those that don't have the cash or the expertise to set something up of their own. If you have a large friend-base on Facebook, then you can certainly promote your (e)book(s) there. That will get you exposure in the social-networking realm. If you have the domain already (thought.org) then branching off of that with something like name.books.thought.org or thought.org/BookBlog/that I would go that route (again, wordpress would be ideal to start with here). The goal here is that you don't want to look too amateurish. That could hurt what reputation your trying to build. Most of my day is spent on one of my project areas [[ BTW, my speech-computer project has actually proved out(!)]]. In just the past few days I have begun building out my amazom.com site and asking questions on their forums. I haven't paid much attention to blogs so far. I think you meant amazon.com? it is good that your speech-computer project has proven itself. I occasionally ramble on about what's on my mind on my transfinite.thought.org site, but I check, double- and triple-check my facts and then footnote them. So back to the idea of my getting into blogging as a means of promoting: is a blog suppose to be a factual discussion? Opinions? Gossip? transfinite.thought.org has the rudimentary feel of an editoral/blogging site already, this would be a good start ... you could fire up wordpress and port your articles from transfinite to wordpress (copy/paste or any other means avail.) as a base and then you can move into promoting your (e)Book(s). The purpose of the blogging site is to make yourself known, basically as an independent reporter (at least that's how I've always viewed it). To answer your last series of questions here. The blog will be anything you want it to be, including all of these. I would suggest visiting blogger.com, livejournal.com and a few others you can find and read the public blogs there. You will find a large majority of them very amateurish, but you will find some that are very well done. Both in visual appeal and structure of the written word. This has helped, thanks. I don't think blogging is going to help me that much because there aren't that many of us geeks, and certainly many fewer with disabilities. I'll look at our wordpress port and see. Well, it could help, in conjunction with other promotion tools. If you are published, then your books will get assigned ISBN/ISBN13 numbers, you can then promote and talk about the fact that your books are listed on amazon, barns noble, etc, from a personal standpoint. Blog about your experiences of being a new writer, being published for the first time, etc, etc. It's an open door to make with as you please. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?
Sharing some of our experiences here at VICOR. On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 15:55 -0500, grarpamp wrote: I know I'll take heat from everyone else who responded saying to effectively ship a new box. But maybe this user has significant costs involved with that. Along with any other reasons... Our company is in that situation. In fact, we have: 1000 systems still running FreeBSD-4.11 200 systems still running FreeBSD-4.8 1 system still running FreeBSD-4.4 and 1 system still running FreeBSD-2.2.2 The 200 4.8 systems are actually in the process of upgrading to 4.11 this year (go ahead... roflmao your heart out). Later this year, we plan to migrate ~500 systems from 4.11 to 8.1 and we plan to do it with a binary upgrade package (of our own design). v4 to v8 can be done. I've done it entirely live over the net. Nothing crazy about it. Confirmed. We've done it too. Nothing special. The basic idea is that there are too many changes and tools involved to fart around with build/install world, mergemaster, CD's, sysinstall, etc. And they're just not aware of such a jump. And you can't trust the idiots on the other end to get it right even if they would work. You are the SA, free your mind. To the initiate, it would be harrowing. To the seasoned SA, it's logical cake. It takes time to be thorough, but if you're thorough there's no reason to fear a binary upgrade. In fact, you can logistically break it down into the following procedure: - Take vanilla 4.x host-one - Take vanilla 8.x host-two - Diff host-one to host-two - Build binary differential package - Package pre-install regresses the machine by uninstalling all packages - Package post-install builds the 8.x box back up with new packages So backup your entire 4.x box over the wire, there will be no return. In our 4.x-8.x binary upgrade, we have a back-out strategy because we've been doing binary upgrades for years. In essence, our company started on FreeBSD-2.2.2, then did binary upgrade to 4.4. Then binary upgrade to 4.8. Then binary upgrade to 4.11. Now binary upgrade to 8.1. The backout strategy is essentially to re-install the 4.11 upgrade package (downgrading from 8.1 back to 4.11). But really... in over 10 years, we've never had to back out a binary upgrade (the procedure to do so has been documented and there, but in the tens-of-thousands of binary upgrades we've done, we've never had to back it out... not even once). Go find a box and install v8 however you want it. If you fail, this one goes to the shipper asap. You can use a vm but that will take longer to ship. You are very wise to also install a v4 box and overlay your backup on it first for testing the entire process. If you failed to heed SA wisdom about separating / /usr /usr/local /var /home /boot, free space, etc on the original v4 box, your life will be much harder. But if you have a ton of unpartitioned free space on it, you can fix that one at a time too ;) Be very aware of boot sectors, loaders, partitions, slices, fstab, sizes, /dev, ifconfig, packet filters, kernel config, etc. That kills most people. Also, since all your apps will be pristine v8 vers, you need to sort out their use of the old data and config. If you have space, rsync -Haxi upload your v8 mountpoints to separate staging dirs on the v4 box. It helps narrow your power fail window :) Get on the v4 box. If you've got console, re boot -s. If not, take it down till only init, sh and sshd remain. If you have space, rsync your current v4 mountpoints to some backup dirs. You're going to need static versions of rsync, openssh, sh, su, and any other tools. You'll need to kill and run the static sshd... re: fstat, umount, libs, etc. If you want, truncate /etc/rc to load only static sshd from /root. This gives you some chance at recovery. Again, do a local trial run to figure out what, where and when you want or need all the tricks and in what order. Mount everything read-write and rsync -Haxi --delete from your v8 staging dirs (whether local or remote) over top of the live but now library freed v4 mountpoints. Reboot ;) Don't forget to lay down new boot sectors etc as and when needed during or after the above. It works, don't complain to me or this list if you break it :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Cheers, Devin Teske - CONTACT INFORMATION - Business Solutions Consultant II FIS - fisglobal.com 510-735-5650 Mobile 510-621-2038 Office 510-621-2020 Office Fax 909-477-4578 Home/Fax devin.te...@fisglobal.com - LEGAL DISCLAIMER - This message contains confidential and proprietary information of the sender, and is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any use, distribution, copying or disclosure by any other person is strictly
Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
GMail threadding don't fail me now! On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: This is a pretty easy problem to replicate if you are pressing W, and that issue has existed for quite some time. If you press W then Q at sysinstall fdisk then attempt to force write disklabel screens you will get the error. Just setup the slices and partitions as you want and let sysinstall handle the writing of information. There is a big warning box that says not to use force write except under certain conditions and this is not one of them. If you google the error message in the OP, the first result is: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1675 pressing 'W' was a last resort option, by no means was I starting off that way. Failing that, I can't see other than a hardware issue, unless somehow sysinstall is broken and you may do better manually running fdisk and bsdlabel and newfs per Handbook and manuals? This doesn't say hardware error to me at all, at least not a disk hardware issue. The message was present across two disks, and if there truly is a problem writing to the media a complete zeroing of the drive would be apparent then. No, only one disk. While we're getting people to look at sysinstall and the auto resizing, it would be nice to get the Unable to create the partition. Too big? issue resolved. You can trigger this by auto-sizing the partitions, deleting a couple and recreating one that a different size than one autosize suggested. Then create the second partion using the auto-populated value in partition size box. Typically run into this when making / a little bigger on amd64 installs by borrowing some space from /usr. It's very tedious to slowly decrease the size of the second partition in your attempts to create it if you're trying to utilize the whole drive. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Configuring BCE Interrupt Coalescing on 8.1-RELEASE
Thanks, Dan! I'm not well versed in C...glad you were able to help me out with that! On Jan 6, 2011 3:07pm, Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com wrote: In the last episode (Jan 06), Rick Miller said: I am looking to configure interrupt coalescing for a bce interface in 8.1-RELEASE. Everything I have found via google only points to the bce manpage, which only identifies that interrupt coalescing is supported with no information with regards to configuring it. Where can I find information on configuring it? After a quick readthrough of the source, it looks like it's always enabled unless you had built the driver with BCE_DEBUG enabled. The values aren't exposed via sysctl for you to view or edit. http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/dev/bce/if_bce.c?v=FREEBSD81#L1012 -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: Adam, I think you may have missed a lot from the earlier messages in this thread. Admittedly it's long and likely tedious, but trying to help somebody get the OS installed is about as basic as it gets for me; I'd be hugely relieved if someone with more / better clues took it on. We didn't get to try W)rite from the fdisk and label screens until long after all attempts at letting sysinstall deal with things had failed to even slice the disk, bombing on this error every time. Chris' disk is brand new, nothing installed. W)riting from sysinstall succeeded at least in creating ad4s1 in the MBR and writing the bootblocks to that slice. I made it very clear this is not something to do without due care; in the circumstances there was absolutely nothing to be lost. And then the GPT issue, of which I was totally ignorant. Fixed. I agree, you seem to be lumping me into a generalization based on the errormsg. If you google the error message in the OP, the first result is: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1675 I read this, while that PR Reporter claims the same error message, the conditions in which s/he gets it _are not_ the same conditions in which I am getting this. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: Adam, I think you may have missed a lot from the earlier messages in this thread. Admittedly it's long and likely tedious, but trying to help somebody get the OS installed is about as basic as it gets for me; I'd be hugely relieved if someone with more / better clues took it on. Actually, I've been following every post since the thread's inception. Despite your listing of generally good advice, the most obvious cause theis error msg(of an admitted newbie) was not explicitly ruled out. I'm simply saying you should start there. ... Chris has this issue with one disk only, so I'm not sure what you mean? Earlier in the thread, the OP stated he tried to install on a Micro SD card and got the exact same result. Ney, I was having general issues w/ my card-reader and slow write speeds, that has been solved. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
If you google the error message in the OP, the first result is: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1675 I read this, while that PR Reporter claims the same error message, the conditions in which s/he gets it _are not_ the same conditions in which I am getting this. Thread poster* sorry for that one ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Fri, 7 Jan 2011, Ian Smith wrote: Manual fdisk bsdlabel newfs would confirm that or otherwise, but Chris will have to hunt up mans, docs and howtos on doing that himself, they're out there. Aha! http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.htmlhttp://www.wonkity.com/%7Ewblock/docs/html/disksetup.html May/may not be helpful, but the price is right. Feedback welcome. Can I bow at your feet?!? This gave me just enough of a clue to go back and arbitraility pass 'gpart delete -i 1 ad4' which actually deleted a partition! I then zeroed the first 73 and the last 33 blocks of the drive. fdisk still complained about 'Class not found' which I googled and found to be an artifact of gpart(8). So my question is this now, once gpart has touched a disk, does it have the partition-aids now? Moving on, I then continued the standard process listed by your link, bsdlabel'd my layout and saved it, when I do an 'ls -lsga /dev | grep ad4' I see that I have partitions a,b,d,e,f and I was able to newfs each one of them Next question, from this point (at the fixit prompt) can I preform a manual install of just base? if I can get the system installed at this point then all should be good when I reboot. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:54:32 -0500 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: Next question, from this point (at the fixit prompt) can I preform a manual install of just base? if I can get the system installed at this point then all should be good when I reboot. http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/ZFSBootPartition has a good guide for installing the base manually (you can ignore the gpart and zfs commands if you want). I found I had to copy the base and kernel directories from the install ISO to a UFS-formatted USB stick first though since the LiveFS CD doesn't have the distributions. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop [solved]
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/ZFSBootPartition has a good guide for installing the base manually (you can ignore the gpart and zfs commands if you want). I found I had to copy the base and kernel directories from the install ISO to a UFS-formatted USB stick first though since the LiveFS CD doesn't have the distributions. -- Bruce Cran Bruce, your a lifesaver! +1 for you and your wiki page. +1 for Warren's page ( http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html#_the_old_standard_way_tt_fdisk_8_tt_and_tt_bsdlabel_8_tt) and +5 for Ian and his incredible patience. Hodgepodging Warren's and Bruce's pages together got me a working base. Laptop is now installed w/o the assistance of a boot cd or the usb hard-drive I was using. I did have to grab a DVD of 8.1 and burn it to a DVDRW, just so I could get access to /dist/8.1-*. That being said, I think I am going to look at setting up that same external hd w/ a full 8.2-R root when it's ready, so I have a full, local tree to utilize for weird installs like this (I don't know why I never did that before) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Chris Brennan wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Fri, 7 Jan 2011, Ian Smith wrote: Manual fdisk bsdlabel newfs would confirm that or otherwise, but Chris will have to hunt up mans, docs and howtos on doing that himself, they're out there. Aha! http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html May/may not be helpful, but the price is right. Feedback welcome. Can I bow at your feet?!? This gave me just enough of a clue to go back and arbitraility pass 'gpart delete -i 1 ad4' which actually deleted a partition! I then zeroed the first 73 and the last 33 blocks of the drive. fdisk still complained about 'Class not found' which I googled and found to be an artifact of gpart(8). destroy -F is supposed to mean Forced destroying of the partition table even if it is not empty. But compare to this thread on the forum earlier today: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=20731 Maybe -F isn't quite as brutal as it needs to be. So my question is this now, once gpart has touched a disk, does it have the partition-aids now? GPT does seem to be tenacious, and I'm wondering if maybe there's something left in RAM that's written back to the disk on shutdown. Moving on, I then continued the standard process listed by your link, bsdlabel'd my layout and saved it, when I do an 'ls -lsga /dev | grep ad4' I see that I have partitions a,b,d,e,f and I was able to newfs each one of them Next question, from this point (at the fixit prompt) can I preform a manual install of just base? if I can get the system installed at this point then all should be good when I reboot. I would just boot the install CD, enter q and the fdisk screen, enter the mountpoints and q at the label screen, and let it do the rest.___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: destroy -F is supposed to mean Forced destroying of the partition table even if it is not empty. But compare to this thread on the forum earlier today: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=20731 Maybe -F isn't quite as brutal as it needs to be. I still can't find any documentation on this in the manpages? HA! I just finished skimming the above thread, -F is indeed new and not in 8.1. I am going to set up a local mirror of 7.x, 8.x and HEAD over the next week and if I remember, I'll be sure to check it out and see if it does infact exist in 8.2. So my question is this now, once gpart has touched a disk, does it have the partition-aids now? GPT does seem to be tenacious, and I'm wondering if maybe there's something left in RAM that's written back to the disk on shutdown. Sneaky ... but possibly not likely since I more then once pulled the plug and didn't give it time to actually write anything. Either way, between your link and Bruce's, all is well. Moving on, I then continued the standard process listed by your link, bsdlabel'd my layout and saved it, when I do an 'ls -lsga /dev | grep ad4' I see that I have partitions a,b,d,e,f and I was able to newfs each one of them Next question, from this point (at the fixit prompt) can I preform a manual install of just base? if I can get the system installed at this point then all should be good when I reboot. I would just boot the install CD, enter q and the fdisk screen, enter the mountpoints and q at the label screen, and let it do the rest. See, I did that the first time and it all came to a screaming halt. That's when I started to get creative with Ian. I'm going to take a stab in the dark and blame Seagate for kludging the disk on me. Either way, a manual fdisk and bsdlabel did the trick, it's got to be something in sysinstall not liking what ever was written there by gpart... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Manage Bind9 through the web, PowerDNS crash my system at startup
Hello, I was looking for a solution to manage Bind9 DNS server through a web so I can add/edit zone. I thought PowerDNS/PowerAdmin would be a good solution for my requirements. I successfully installed both PowerDNS/PowerAdmin and tested them was working fine. When I restart my box I found PowerDNS crash my system giving many errors can't find mysqlserver. Any suggestions for the requirement to manage Bind9 through the web, or the PowerDNS problem. Thanks and have a nice day. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Manage Bind9 through the web, PowerDNS crash my system at startup
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Sayed Nimer sayed...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I was looking for a solution to manage Bind9 DNS server through a web so I can add/edit zone. I thought PowerDNS/PowerAdmin would be a good solution for my requirements. I successfully installed both PowerDNS/PowerAdmin and tested them was working fine. When I restart my box I found PowerDNS crash my system giving many errors can't find mysqlserver. Any suggestions for the requirement to manage Bind9 through the web, or the PowerDNS problem. Thanks and have a nice day. Have you tried making sure that the MySQL daemon is started /BEFORE/ PowerDNS and Apache is started? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
