https is faster on amd64?

2011-02-06 Thread kellyremo


http://devcentral.f5.com/weblogs/macvittie/archive/2011/01/31/dispelling-the-new-ssl-myth.aspx
 
 according to the SSL Performance table it says that the transactions per 
second is 2-3 times better using 64bit kernels opposite to 32bit kernels?
 
 is this true, or i am just misunderstanding something
 
 Thank you!


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OpenSSH could be faster...then why don't they path it??

2011-02-06 Thread kellyremo
https://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/hpn-v-ssh-tput.jpg

SCP and the underlying SSH2 protocol implementation in OpenSSH is network 
performance limited by statically defined internal flow control buffers. These 
buffers often end up acting as a bottleneck for network throughput of SCP, 
especially on long and high bandwith network links. Modifying the ssh code to 
allow the buffers to be defined at run time eliminates this bottleneck. We have 
created a patch that will remove the bottlenecks in OpenSSH and is fully 
interoperable with other servers and clients. In addition HPN clients will be 
able to download faster from non HPN servers, and HPN servers will be able to 
receive uploads faster from non HPN clients. However, the host receiving the 
data must have a properly tuned TCP/IP stack.

My question is: So Why Does the original OpenSSH has limited statically 
defined internal flow control buffers?? It could be way faster, even 10x!!

With the HPN-SCP path it could be the descendant of FTP! Why aren't there any 
OpenSCP packages? ('normal SCP+HPN-SCP path+no local user needed for 
SCP'ing+chroot by default')

Any opinions?

Thank you!

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if the file changes send email about diff

2011-02-06 Thread kellyremo

I have 2 script. Script A, Script B.

Script A is regulary watching the dhcpacks [dhcp release is configured to 
2mins] in the logs, for the past 2 minutes. it writes the MAC addresses to a 
file [/dev/shm/dhcpacks-in-last-2min.txt] every 2 minutes. Ok, this is working, 
active clients are in this file. Super!

Script B: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=wvhwhPWu
I'm trying to create a script, that watches the changes in 
/dev/shm/dhcpacks-in-last-2min.txt file [in every 1 sec]. Ok. But: my 
watcher script [the pastebined] is not working fine...sometime it works, 
sometime it send that someone XY logged out, but it's not true! nothing 
happened, and the problem is not in the Script A.

Can someone help me point out, what am i missing? How can i watch a file [in 
every sec], that contains only MAC addresses, and if someone doesn't get 
dhcpack in 2 minutes, the file /dev/shm/dhcpacks-in-last-2min.txt changes, 
and that clients MAC address will be gone from it, and i need to know, who was 
it [pastebined my script..but somethings wrong with it].

Thank you for any help..i've been pathing my script for days now.. :\

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Re: OpenSSH could be faster...then why don't they path it??

2011-02-06 Thread Bill Moran
In response to kellyremo kellyr...@zoho.com:

 https://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/hpn-v-ssh-tput.jpg
 
 SCP and the underlying SSH2 protocol implementation in OpenSSH is network 
 performance limited by statically defined internal flow control buffers. 
 These buffers often end up acting as a bottleneck for network throughput of 
 SCP, especially on long and high bandwith network links. Modifying the ssh 
 code to allow the buffers to be defined at run time eliminates this 
 bottleneck. We have created a patch that will remove the bottlenecks in 
 OpenSSH and is fully interoperable with other servers and clients. In 
 addition HPN clients will be able to download faster from non HPN servers, 
 and HPN servers will be able to receive uploads faster from non HPN clients. 
 However, the host receiving the data must have a properly tuned TCP/IP stack.
 
 My question is: So Why Does the original OpenSSH has limited statically 
 defined internal flow control buffers?? It could be way faster, even 10x!!

Because it's unstable?:

If you are experiencing disconnects due to a failure in
buffer_append_space please let us know. We're currently tracking some
problems with this and we're trying to gather more information to help
resolve it.

Also, I'm having trouble understanding how people like that get grants
to do work like that.  On the one hand, they obviously know enough about
cryptography to make improvements.  On the other hand, they can't seem
to get a grip on the fact that the code will need to have a license
before anyone can grab it and incorporate it.  I can't find anywhere on
that page where it tells me what terms I am allowed to use those patches
under.

Also, it would be nice if those folks kept track of dates.  Like, how long
have those patches be available?  There's not a single date on any of
those pages or the files involved.  The reason I point this out is because
OpenSSL is _extremely_ sensitive software.  I don't want to see any
large changes to it released until they've been in testing for months,
if not years.  For all we know, these speed improvements are riddled with
dozens of security flaws.

Also, any reason why you're asking these questions of FreeBSD and not of
the OpenSSL project?

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Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze...

2011-02-06 Thread Mario Lobo
On Saturday 05 February 2011 22:12:45 Eric Schuele wrote:
 All,
 
 I have a laptop running 8.2-prerelease GENERIC.  I have virtualbox ose
 3.2.12 from ports (and kmod as well).
 
 I've only installed windows guests in vbox.  I've installed windows 2008
 server 64, windows vista 64bit, and windows 7 32bit.  I have the vbox
 hdd images on an NTFS filesystem mounted using fuse.
 
 My box is a dual boot machine between FreeBSD and Windows.  My desire is
 to be able to utilize the same virtual machine in vbox on both my
 Windows and FreeBSD installations.
 
 I can successfully utilize the virtuals in vbox (same version) in
 Windows.  However when I utilize any of the virtual machines in FreeBSD,
 they run for several minutes and eventually freeze.  Freeze may not
 necessarily be the correct term.  All windows processes on the virtual
 machine begin to die.  First one process, then another, then all.  Hard
 to explain, which may not help my cause here.  But, most important
 fact... in Windows they work fine... under FreeBSD they run for a while
 and then cease to run.  When the VM is good and dead, it is always dead
 with the little vbox virtual hard disk LED lit up (no idea if that is
 important).
 
 Previously, they would run for a *very* short time.  seconds? minutes?
 and then die (sometimes I couldn't login).  I disabled sound support and
 now they run for 10-15 minutes.  Had one run for an hour or two the
 other day, but can't reproduce that.  Usually 10-15 minutes max.
 
 Network works fine inside the virtual.
 
 I'm new to VirtualBox on FreeBSD.  I've used it a bit on Windows with
 good results.
 
 I did try a windows guest on a non fuse filesystem just to rule that
 out, but had same issue.
 
 What else could I provide that might allow someone to point me in the
 right direction here?
 
 Thanks.
 
 --
 Regards,
 Eric

Eric;


My advice to you is that you change the file system on drive that holds the 
VMs files from NTFS to EXT2.

NTFS file systems on FreeBSD or even Linux are OK only for doing small r/w 
stuff. I use the ntfs-3g which is really good but don't trust NTFS for heavy 
usage under those OSs. Sometimes it's not even trustable under windows itself.

EXT on the other hand, is very stable in FreeBSD and has very good drivers for 
any version of 32/64 windows (Ext2IFS_1_11a) so you can access you vdi files.

hope this helps.
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Set tty resolution using hint.sc.0.flags with VESA

2011-02-06 Thread David Demelier

Hello,

I don't like much to use allscreens_flags to set my tty resolution 
because it's done at the end of /etc/rc process. I know we can edit the 
hint.sc.0.flags in /boot/device.hints to set the resolution at the 
earliest stage.


I want to use the 1366x768 mode :

# vidcontrol -i mode
[... snip ...]
496 (0x1f0) 0x001f G 1366x768x32 D   8x16  0xa 64k 64k 
0xc000 4128k


To use this mode I should write hint.sc.0.flags=0x1f00180 where 80 
means VESA mode following the sc(4) manpage.


It seems that my resolution is like 1024x768 when I bootup and not the 
one I want. However when I use vidcontrol MODE_496 after boot it works 
pretty well.


Is there something wrong on my line ?

Cheers,

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Re: nedit problem

2011-02-06 Thread Fred

On 02/06/11 00:53, b. f. wrote:

Fred Boatwright wrote:


After updating all ports on 8.1-RELEASE, nedit has a problem.  The right
mouse button works ok in the toolbar but if it is pressed in the text
area, for example to copy a block of text, the cursor changes shape and
the X session becomes completely locked up.  I have to stop X and
restart it.  I have tried to deinstall nedit and rebuild it but this
didn't help.  It is nedit-5.5 with Motif 2.2.3.

This is a known problem with many Motif-based applications, arising
from a bug in recent versions of Xorg.  It has been corrected
upstream, and it is likely that this problem will be fixed when the
ports freeze ends shortly after the release of FreeBSD 7.4 and 8.2, if
not before.  If you can't wait, you can try using the patches from:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=154510

b.
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I will just use another editor for a while.  Thanks for the help.

Best regards,
Fred

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Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze...

2011-02-06 Thread Eric Schuele
On 02/06/2011 09:23, Mario Lobo wrote:
 On Saturday 05 February 2011 22:12:45 Eric Schuele wrote:
 
 All,
 

 
 I have a laptop running 8.2-prerelease GENERIC. I have virtualbox ose
 
 3.2.12 from ports (and kmod as well).
 

 
 I've only installed windows guests in vbox. I've installed windows 2008
 
 server 64, windows vista 64bit, and windows 7 32bit. I have the vbox
 
 hdd images on an NTFS filesystem mounted using fuse.
 

snip

 
 Eric;
 
 My advice to you is that you change the file system on drive that holds
 the VMs files from NTFS to EXT2.

Thanks for the suggestion, however,  I've already tried this (sorta).
From my original post...


 I did try a windows guest on a non fuse filesystem just to rule that
 out, but had same issue.


I suppose it may have been a little less than clear.  By non fuse
filesystem  I actually meant UFS.  The problem still persisted.

 
 NTFS file systems on FreeBSD or even Linux are OK only for doing small
 r/w stuff. I use the ntfs-3g which is really good but don't trust NTFS
 for heavy usage under those OSs. Sometimes it's not even trustable under
 windows itself.

I realize NTFS on fBSD has been shaky in the past, but had heard it had
come a long way these days.  It does seem to work well for all my
purposes, except these VMs.  Had hoped NTFS was not the issue.

 
 EXT on the other hand, is very stable in FreeBSD and has very good
 drivers for any version of 32/64 windows (Ext2IFS_1_11a) so you can
 access you vdi files.

I've not tried the EXT IFS for windows yet, nor had I heard much
regarding their success or failure.  If your willing to go out on a limb
and say very good drivers for any version of 32/64 windows...  I'll
give it a try, and post my results.  :)

Thanks.

 
 hope this helps.
 
 -- 
 
 Mario Lobo
 
 http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br
 
 FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE)
 


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Eric




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Re: Set tty resolution using hint.sc.0.flags with VESA

2011-02-06 Thread Dima Panov
Hello!

[fluffy@Beastie] ~$ cat /boot/device.hints|grep sc.0
hint.sc.0.at=isa
hint.sc.0.flags=0x180
hint.sc.0.vesa_mode=0x1f0


07.02.2011, 01:50, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.com:
 Hello,

 I don't like much to use allscreens_flags to set my tty resolution
 because it's done at the end of /etc/rc process. I know we can edit the
 hint.sc.0.flags in /boot/device.hints to set the resolution at the
 earliest stage.

 I want to use the 1366x768 mode :

 # vidcontrol -i mode
 [... snip ...]
 496 (0x1f0) 0x001f G 1366x768x32 D   8x16  0xa 64k 64k
 0xc000 4128k

 To use this mode I should write hint.sc.0.flags=0x1f00180 where 80
 means VESA mode following the sc(4) manpage.

 It seems that my resolution is like 1024x768 when I bootup and not the
 one I want. However when I use vidcontrol MODE_496 after boot it works
 pretty well.

 Is there something wrong on my line ?

 Cheers,

 --
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kern.crit messages

2011-02-06 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
I have a server I installed 8.1-RELEASE on and believe I screwed up when
rebuilding the kernel to support QUOTA because now that I am
troubleshooting these weird messages in the log, I find I am actually
running 9.0-CURRENT. I had a ports file as below when I pulled the
source to rebuild the kernel...

*default host=cvsup9.us.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=.
*default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress
src-all

Using the tag above caused my issue? Now I see some troubling messages
in my logs...

 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: lock order reversal:
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: 1st 0xff8014bbbe58 bufwait 
 (bufwait) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:2659
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: 2nd 0xff002b9d6400 dirhash 
 (dirhash) @ /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_dirhash.c:283
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: KDB: stack backtrace:
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper() at 
 db_trace_self_wrapper+0x2a
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: _witness_debugger() at 
 _witness_debugger+0x2e
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: witness_checkorder() at 
 witness_checkorder+0x807
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: _sx_xlock() at _sx_xlock+0x55
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: ufsdirhash_acquire() at 
 ufsdirhash_acquire+0x33
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: ufsdirhash_add() at 
 ufsdirhash_add+0x19
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: ufs_direnter() at 
 ufs_direnter+0x662
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: ufs_makeinode() at 
 ufs_makeinode+0x291
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: VOP_CREATE_APV() at 
 VOP_CREATE_APV+0x8d
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: vn_open_cred() at 
 vn_open_cred+0x46a
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: kern_openat() at kern_openat+0x181
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: syscallenter() at 
 syscallenter+0x1aa
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: syscall() at syscall+0x4c
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: Xfast_syscall() at 
 Xfast_syscall+0xe2
 Feb  6 11:25:23 kern.crit backup kernel: --- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF64, 
 open), rip = 0x80078118c, rsp = 0x7fffad48, rbp = 0x7fffb73f ---

I also find this message with dmesg...

 ad8: 152627MB Seagate ST3160811AS 3.AAE at ata4-master UDMA100 SATA
 ad9: 953869MB Seagate ST31000528AS CC3E at ata4-slave UDMA100 SATA
 GEOM: ad8s1: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s).
 ad10: 152627MB Seagate ST3160811AS 3.AAE at ata5-master UDMA100 SATA
 ad11: 953869MB Seagate ST31000528AS CC3E at ata5-slave UDMA100 SATA
 GEOM: ad9s1: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s).
 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
 GEOM: ufsid/4c7aa872e9a44575: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 
 16h,63s).
 GEOM: ad10s1: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s).
 GEOM: ad11s1: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s).
 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
 ar0: 152627MB Intel MatrixRAID RAID1 status: READY
 ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad8 at ata4-master
 ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad10 at ata5-master
 ar1: 953869MB Intel MatrixRAID RAID1 status: READY
 ar1: disk0 READY (master) using ad11 at ata5-slave
 ar1: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad9 at ata4-slave
 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
 WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance.
 ugen1.2: Rextron at usbus1
 ukbd0: USB on usbus1
 kbd2 at ukbd0
 ums0: USB on usbus1
 ums0: 5 buttons and [XYZ] coordinates ID=1
 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ar0s1a
 lock order reversal:
  1st 0xff0002cdd818 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_lookup.c:501
  2nd 0xff801497ff78 bufwait (bufwait) @ 
 /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:11309
  3rd 0xff0002d4fbd8 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2111
 KDB: stack backtrace:
 db_trace_self_wrapper() at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x2a
 _witness_debugger() at _witness_debugger+0x2e
 witness_checkorder() at witness_checkorder+0x807
 __lockmgr_args() at __lockmgr_args+0xd42
 ffs_lock() at ffs_lock+0x8c
 VOP_LOCK1_APV() at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0x9b
 _vn_lock() at _vn_lock+0x47
 vget() at vget+0x7b
 vfs_hash_get() at vfs_hash_get+0xd5
 ffs_vgetf() at ffs_vgetf+0x48
 softdep_sync_metadata() at softdep_sync_metadata+0x5e3
 ffs_syncvnode() at ffs_syncvnode+0x213
 ffs_truncate() at ffs_truncate+0x557
 ufs_direnter() at ufs_direnter+0x47b
 ufs_makeinode() at ufs_makeinode+0x291
 VOP_CREATE_APV() at VOP_CREATE_APV+0x8d
 vn_open_cred() at vn_open_cred+0x46a
 kern_openat() at kern_openat+0x181
 syscallenter() at syscallenter+0x1aa
 syscall() at syscall+0x4c
 Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xe2
 --- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF64, open), rip = 0x80072f18c, rsp = 
 0x7fffead8, rbp = 0 ---
 lock order reversal:
  1st 0xff8014bbbe58 bufwait (bufwait) @ 

Re: kern.crit messages

2011-02-06 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 12:04:59PM -0500, Robert Fitzpatrick
rob...@webtent.org wrote:

 I have a server I installed 8.1-RELEASE on and believe I screwed up when
 rebuilding the kernel to support QUOTA because now that I am
 troubleshooting these weird messages in the log, I find I am actually
 running 9.0-CURRENT. I had a ports file as below when I pulled the
 source to rebuild the kernel...
 
 *default host=cvsup9.us.FreeBSD.org
 *default base=/usr
 *default prefix=/usr
 *default release=cvs tag=.
 *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress
 src-all
 
 Using the tag above caused my issue? Now I see some troubling messages
 in my logs...
 
 Just looking for advice on what to do about all this, can someone help?
 
By using the line:
*default release=cvs tag=.
for src-all collection you definitely grabbed -current sources. I'm
not sure if downgrading by make world is supported but you could
try. Backup first, try later..
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Re: OpenSSH could be faster...then why don't they path it??

2011-02-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 08:42:27AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
 
 Also, I'm having trouble understanding how people like that get grants
 to do work like that.  On the one hand, they obviously know enough about
 cryptography to make improvements.  On the other hand, they can't seem
 to get a grip on the fact that the code will need to have a license
 before anyone can grab it and incorporate it.  I can't find anywhere on
 that page where it tells me what terms I am allowed to use those patches
 under.

A lack of concern for specific licensing seems to be a big problem in the
open source world -- particularly the copyleft world.  Many people seem
to think that if they say open source it means GPL, and they don't
have to tell anyone they're releasing it under the terms of the GPL.  The
license ends up buried under some second-order subdirectory in a tarball
that isn't the supposedly preferred means of getting the software in
question.  Occasionally, the same kind of lack of concern is employed
with distributing something under some other open source license, and
occasionally an announcement that something is open source comes with the
author's assumption that no license is needed at all.

It drives me up the wall.


 
 Also, it would be nice if those folks kept track of dates.  Like, how long
 have those patches be available?  There's not a single date on any of
 those pages or the files involved.  The reason I point this out is because
 OpenSSL is _extremely_ sensitive software.  I don't want to see any
 large changes to it released until they've been in testing for months,
 if not years.  For all we know, these speed improvements are riddled with
 dozens of security flaws.

I agree that dates are important, too.  These days, there is little or no
execuse for offering open source software to the world without storing it
in a publicly accessible version control system's repository, which will
automatically track commit dates for everything anyway.


 
 Also, any reason why you're asking these questions of FreeBSD and not of
 the OpenSSL project?

I think we're discussing OpenSSH rather than OpenSSL.  Am I mistaken?

They are not the same project.

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Re: Set tty resolution using hint.sc.0.flags with VESA

2011-02-06 Thread David Demelier

On 06/02/2011 17:52, Dima Panov wrote:

Hello!

[fluffy@Beastie] ~$ cat /boot/device.hints|grep sc.0
hint.sc.0.at=isa
hint.sc.0.flags=0x180
hint.sc.0.vesa_mode=0x1f0




absolutely great! But where did you find these vesa_mode setting? It's 
not documented anywhere.


Cheers,

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Re: kern.crit messages

2011-02-06 Thread RW
On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 12:04:59 -0500
Robert Fitzpatrick rob...@webtent.org wrote:

 I have a server I installed 8.1-RELEASE on and believe I screwed up
 when rebuilding the kernel to support QUOTA because now that I am
 troubleshooting these weird messages in the log, I find I am actually
 running 9.0-CURRENT. I had a ports file as below when I pulled the
 source to rebuild the kernel...
 
 *default host=cvsup9.us.FreeBSD.org
 *default base=/usr
 *default prefix=/usr
 *default release=cvs tag=.
 *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress
 src-all

 Using the tag above caused my issue? 

Yes, with ports tag=. just means the latest version, with the base
system it means the latest CURRENT, you should have used
RELENG_8_1_0_RELEASE or RELENG_8_1

 Now I see some troubling messages
 in my logs...

I believe CURRENT has a lot of additional debug on by default, and
presumably you now have a mismatched kernel and userland, so it's
not surprizing.


 Just looking for advice on what to do about all this, can someone
 help?

If you have only built the kernel and only built it once you should have
the old 8.1 version as a backup. 
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Re: kern.crit messages

2011-02-06 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
On 2/6/2011 12:20 PM, Vallo Kallaste wrote:
 By using the line:
 *default release=cvs tag=.
 for src-all collection you definitely grabbed -current sources. I'm
 not sure if downgrading by make world is supported but you could
 try. Backup first, try later..

Thanks. Can someone confirm these steps as the best way to attempt to
get back to a 8.1 kernel I originally installed...

1. update my tag line to 8_1
2. update my source tree
3. run 'make world'

I have backup already. I ask because in the handbook it says 'Do not use
make world'...

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

I was going to just rebuild the kernel with the proper source tree.
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Re: Set tty resolution using hint.sc.0.flags with VESA

2011-02-06 Thread b. f.
David Demelier wrote:
 hint.sc.0.vesa_mode=0x1f0
...
absolutely great! But where did you find these vesa_mode setting? It's
not documented anywhere.

Look again: syscons(4), in the Synopsis and the Driver Flags section.

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Re: nedit problem

2011-02-06 Thread Fred

On 02/06/11 00:53, b. f. wrote:

Fred Boatwright wrote:


After updating all ports on 8.1-RELEASE, nedit has a problem.  The right
mouse button works ok in the toolbar but if it is pressed in the text
area, for example to copy a block of text, the cursor changes shape and
the X session becomes completely locked up.  I have to stop X and
restart it.  I have tried to deinstall nedit and rebuild it but this
didn't help.  It is nedit-5.5 with Motif 2.2.3.

This is a known problem with many Motif-based applications, arising
from a bug in recent versions of Xorg.  It has been corrected
upstream, and it is likely that this problem will be fixed when the
ports freeze ends shortly after the release of FreeBSD 7.4 and 8.2, if
not before.  If you can't wait, you can try using the patches from:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=154510

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I have tried several editors that are horrible.  Axe installed from 
packages dumps core.  There were a lot of warnings that later versions 
of libraries were installed than axe was expecting.  Does the maintainer 
need to know this?


Can you tell me how to install the Xorg patch to make nedit work?  I 
have not worked with getting source code or compiling from source.  I 
can do the edit on another computer.


Best regards,
Fred

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Re: kern.crit messages

2011-02-06 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Robert Fitzpatrick rob...@webtent.orgwrote:

 Thanks. Can someone confirm these steps as the best way to attempt to
 get back to a 8.1 kernel I originally installed...

 1. update my tag line to 8_1
 2. update my source tree


For step 3, you can something like make buildkernel   make installkernel
but you may not have to do that if the /boot/kernel.old is a match your
currect userland as mentioned previously.  simply move it /boot/kernel after
you have tested it.

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Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze...

2011-02-06 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Eric Schuele e.schu...@computer.org wrote:

 What else could I provide that might allow someone to point me in the
 right direction here?


You can try recompiling virtualbox with debug options and see if it spits
out any pertinent messages.  I have no problems with Windows guests on VDI,
ZVOL, raw file, or raw partitions.  Vbox also logs data per VM, you can
check that.

Another possibility is that you have mismatched versions of guest
additions.  If that were the problem, it would show up in the Vbox logs.


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Re: Why does my 8.2-RC3 dvd1 boot DOS?

2011-02-06 Thread Chuck Bacon
SERIOUS APOLOGIES!  I've found out my dvd is marginal, or
possibly the drive.  What seemed like a bad dvd apparently
resulted in a scan (by the BIOS?) until it found a boot loader
it understood, PC-DOS it said, which was one of several I
discovered in grepping the ISO file.  I should have
done freebsd-update !
   Chuck Bacon - c...@cape.com

 I downloaded it yesterday.  Here's the facts:

 1. md5 matches CHECKSUM.MD5

 2. When I boot off the BIOS, it takes a half minute or so, and
 then: voila!  PC-DOS boots, and for all the world look as
 though it will boot a larger system; except it doesn't have
 a clue.

 Here's the hypothesis: The FreeBSD-8.3-RC3 boot loader doesn't
 satisfy my BIOS, and the BIOS looks through the dvd until it finds
 one of the DOS boot loaders provided by some fdisk variant.
 Any ideas why?

 If nothing else, I'll download disc1.  Praps that'll work!

 Many thanks,
   Chuck Bacon -- c...@cape.com
   ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY

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Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze...

2011-02-06 Thread Chris Brennan
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Eric Schuele e.schu...@computer.orgwrote:

 I realize NTFS on fBSD has been shaky in the past, but had heard it had
 come a long way these days.  It does seem to work well for all my
 purposes, except these VMs.  Had hoped NTFS was not the issue.


ntfs/ntfs-3g is foolhardy at best in linux *and* fbsd ... it's trashed so
many drives.partitions on me it's not even funny anymore... and I never did
much w/ them except small stuff anyway. If you need to access the volumes in
*nix/windows then why not FAT32 then? I use a FAT32 drive for my music so I
can access it in any OS reliably and the drive is now 6+ years old.
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Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze...

2011-02-06 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sunday 06 February 2011 13:09:47 Eric Schuele wrote:
 
 Thanks for the suggestion, however,  I've already tried this (sorta).
 From my original post...
 
  I did try a windows guest on a non fuse filesystem just to rule that
  out, but had same issue.
 
 I suppose it may have been a little less than clear.  By non fuse
 filesystem  I actually meant UFS.  The problem still persisted.
 

  NTFS file systems on FreeBSD or even Linux are OK only for doing small
  r/w stuff. I use the ntfs-3g which is really good but don't trust NTFS
  for heavy usage under those OSs. Sometimes it's not even trustable under
  windows itself.
 

My bad!. Sorry!. But it seems that you're right. Looks like the issue is not 
the FS then.

If you're building from the ports, try the svn version from:

https://svn.bluelife.at/index.cgi/blueports

It's already version 4.0.2 there.


 I realize NTFS on fBSD has been shaky in the past, but had heard it had
 come a long way these days.  It does seem to work well for all my
 purposes, except these VMs.  Had hoped NTFS was not the issue.


 
 I've not tried the EXT IFS for windows yet, nor had I heard much
 regarding their success or failure.  If your willing to go out on a limb
 and say very good drivers for any version of 32/64 windows...  I'll
 give it a try, and post my results.  :)
 


Forgive me if it sounded on a limb. Didn't mean to look like that. The only 
reason I mentioned it is because it's exactly the way I've been using. I have 
triple boot system. BSD AMD64, XP32 and Win7 64 and the IFS driver works 
flawlessly on both windows, and all 3 Vboxes accessing the same VDIs. Because 
of that, I believe I may have got carried away by saying any win version.

regards,

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Re: Why does my 8.2-RC3 dvd1 boot DOS?

2011-02-06 Thread Frank Shute
On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 03:48:45PM -0500, Chuck Bacon wrote:

 SERIOUS APOLOGIES!  I've found out my dvd is marginal, or
 possibly the drive.  What seemed like a bad dvd apparently
 resulted in a scan (by the BIOS?) until it found a boot loader
 it understood, PC-DOS it said, which was one of several I
 discovered in grepping the ISO file.  I should have
 done freebsd-update !
Chuck Bacon - c...@cape.com

Chuck, where on the DVD is the copy of PC-DOS?

 
  I downloaded it yesterday.  Here's the facts:
 
  1. md5 matches CHECKSUM.MD5
 
  2. When I boot off the BIOS, it takes a half minute or so, and
  then: voila!  PC-DOS boots, and for all the world look as
  though it will boot a larger system; except it doesn't have
  a clue.
 
  Here's the hypothesis: The FreeBSD-8.3-RC3 boot loader doesn't
  satisfy my BIOS, and the BIOS looks through the dvd until it finds
  one of the DOS boot loaders provided by some fdisk variant.
  Any ideas why?
 
  If nothing else, I'll download disc1.  Praps that'll work!
 
  Many thanks,
  Chuck Bacon -- c...@cape.com
  ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY

Regards,

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Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze...

2011-02-06 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sunday 06 February 2011 17:48:45 Chris Brennan wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Eric Schuele e.schu...@computer.orgwrote:
  I realize NTFS on fBSD has been shaky in the past, but had heard it had
  come a long way these days.  It does seem to work well for all my
  purposes, except these VMs.  Had hoped NTFS was not the issue.
 
 ntfs/ntfs-3g is foolhardy at best in linux *and* fbsd ... it's trashed so
 many drives.partitions on me it's not even funny anymore... and I never did
 much w/ them except small stuff anyway. If you need to access the volumes
 in *nix/windows then why not FAT32 then? I use a FAT32 drive for my music
 so I can access it in any OS reliably and the drive is now 6+ years old.

FAT32 max file size is 4Gig.


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Re: if the file changes send email about diff

2011-02-06 Thread J65nko
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 2:33 PM, kellyremo kellyr...@zoho.com wrote:

 I have 2 script. Script A, Script B.

 Script A is regulary watching the dhcpacks [dhcp release is configured to 
 2mins] in the logs, for the past 2 minutes. it writes the MAC addresses to a 
 file [/dev/shm/dhcpacks-in-last-2min.txt] every 2 minutes. Ok, this is 
 working, active clients are in this file. Super!

 Script B: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=wvhwhPWu
 I'm trying to create a script, that watches the changes in 
 /dev/shm/dhcpacks-in-last-2min.txt file [in every 1 sec]. Ok. But: my 
 watcher script [the pastebined] is not working fine...sometime it works, 
 sometime it send that someone XY logged out, but it's not true! nothing 
 happened, and the problem is not in the Script A.

 Can someone help me point out, what am i missing? How can i watch a file [in 
 every sec], that contains only MAC addresses, and if someone doesn't get 
 dhcpack in 2 minutes, the file /dev/shm/dhcpacks-in-last-2min.txt changes, 
 and that clients MAC address will be gone from it, and i need to know, who 
 was it [pastebined my script..but somethings wrong with it].

You are attempting to re-invent the wheel called revision control
system ;) Your FreeBSD box has a simple revision control system
called 'rcs'. It will do the most things you are trying to emulate in
your shell script.

Read the rcsintro(1) man page how to get started.
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Re: kern.crit messages

2011-02-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:21:02 -0600, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Robert Fitzpatrick rob...@webtent.orgwrote:
 
  Thanks. Can someone confirm these steps as the best way to attempt to
  get back to a 8.1 kernel I originally installed...
 
  1. update my tag line to 8_1
  2. update my source tree
 
 
 For step 3, you can something like make buildkernel   make installkernel
 but you may not have to do that if the /boot/kernel.old is a match your
 currect userland as mentioned previously.  simply move it /boot/kernel after
 you have tested it.

Refer to the comment section of /usr/src/Makefile for an
explaination of the correct procedure of the updating
process:

 1.  `cd /usr/src'   (or to the directory containing your source tree).
 2.  `make buildworld'
 3.  `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC).
 4.  `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE'   (default is GENERIC).
  [steps 3.  4. can be combined by using the kernel target]
 5.  `reboot'(in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt).
 6.  `mergemaster -p'
 7.  `make installworld'
 8.  `make delete-old'
 9.  `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -U or -ai).
10.  `reboot'
11.  `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore)

You'll also see what the different make targets are representing
(e. g. make world = buildworld + installworld, no kernel).




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Re: nedit problem

2011-02-06 Thread b. f.
Fred Boatwright wrote:
 On 02/06/11 00:53, b. f. wrote:
  Fred Boatwright wrote:
 
  After updating all ports on 8.1-RELEASE, nedit has a problem.  The right
  mouse button works ok in the toolbar but if it is pressed in the text
  area, for example to copy a block of text, the cursor changes shape and
  the X session becomes completely locked up.  I have to stop X and
  restart it.  I have tried to deinstall nedit and rebuild it but this
  didn't help.  It is nedit-5.5 with Motif 2.2.3.
  This is a known problem with many Motif-based applications, arising
  from a bug in recent versions of Xorg.  It has been corrected
  upstream, and it is likely that this problem will be fixed when the
  ports freeze ends shortly after the release of FreeBSD 7.4 and 8.2, if
  not before.  If you can't wait, you can try using the patches from:
 
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=154510
 

 I have tried several editors that are horrible.  Axe installed from
 packages dumps core.  There were a lot of warnings that later versions
 of libraries were installed than axe was expecting.  Does the maintainer
 need to know this?

Sadly, there is no maintainer for that port.  But yes, you should file
a Problem Report (PR), so that people will know that there may be a
problem:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/index.html

 Can you tell me how to install the Xorg patch to make nedit work?  I
 have not worked with getting source code or compiling from source.  I
 can do the edit on another computer.

Get an up-to-date ports tree.  (If you don't know what that means,
read the relevant portions of the FreeBSD Handbook.)

Place the attached patch (or a trimmed version of the patch from the
PR that I cited earlier) in  ports/x11-servers/xorg-server/files under
a name like 'patch-dix__events.c', that begins with 'patch-', and
doesn't overwrite any of the existing patches.

In the ports/x11-servers/xorg-server directory, run 'make deinstall
clean install  make clean', or use your favorite third-party port
updating tool to force an update of that port.

(If you want to create a backup package of your patched version of
xorg-server, and you are not using a port updating tool with this
feature, then either 'make package' in that directory before running
the final 'make clean', or use 'pkg_create -b xorg-server-*'.)

I'm assuming that you are already using the latest version of
x11-servers/xorg-server; if instead you are using an earlier version,
and packages that depend on it, you will probably need to update them
as well.

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Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze...

2011-02-06 Thread Chris Brennan
Net, I've formatted drives as fat32 that were well over 4gb. In fact I have
an external 120gb we datavault that's fat32

-- Sent from my Droid
On Feb 6, 2011 5:25 PM, Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br wrote:
 On Sunday 06 February 2011 17:48:45 Chris Brennan wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Eric Schuele e.schu...@computer.org
wrote:
  I realize NTFS on fBSD has been shaky in the past, but had heard it had
  come a long way these days. It does seem to work well for all my
  purposes, except these VMs. Had hoped NTFS was not the issue.

 ntfs/ntfs-3g is foolhardy at best in linux *and* fbsd ... it's trashed so
 many drives.partitions on me it's not even funny anymore... and I never
did
 much w/ them except small stuff anyway. If you need to access the volumes
 in *nix/windows then why not FAT32 then? I use a FAT32 drive for my music
 so I can access it in any OS reliably and the drive is now 6+ years old.

 FAT32 max file size is 4Gig.


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Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze...

2011-02-06 Thread Eric Schuele
On 02/06/2011 11:35, Adam Vande More wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Eric Schuele e.schu...@computer.org wrote:
 
 What else could I provide that might allow someone to point me in the
 right direction here?

 
 You can try recompiling virtualbox with debug options and see if it spits
 out any pertinent messages.  I have no problems with Windows guests on VDI,
 ZVOL, raw file, or raw partitions.  Vbox also logs data per VM, you can
 check that.

Logs might be nice.  Where would I find these.  Or are they only present
with debug builds (which I am building now)

 
 Another possibility is that you have mismatched versions of guest
 additions.  If that were the problem, it would show up in the Vbox logs.

I thought of that... even though vbox does not complain of a mismatch, I
went ahead and removed them from a machine and added them back in from
my FreeBSD host.  No improvement unfortunately.

 
 


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Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze...

2011-02-06 Thread Eric Schuele
On 02/06/2011 21:17, Eric Schuele wrote:
 On 02/06/2011 11:35, Adam Vande More wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Eric Schuele e.schu...@computer.org wrote:

 What else could I provide that might allow someone to point me in the
 right direction here?

 You can try recompiling virtualbox with debug options and see if it spits
 out any pertinent messages.  I have no problems with Windows guests on VDI,
 ZVOL, raw file, or raw partitions.  Vbox also logs data per VM, you can
 check that.
 
 Logs might be nice.  Where would I find these.  Or are they only present
 with debug builds (which I am building now)

Ok... found the logs.  :)
Looks as if each machine has 4 log files, and that the set of files is
from the last run.  Anything in there I could post to help diagnose?

 
 Another possibility is that you have mismatched versions of guest
 additions.  If that were the problem, it would show up in the Vbox logs.
 
 I thought of that... even though vbox does not complain of a mismatch, I
 went ahead and removed them from a machine and added them back in from
 my FreeBSD host.  No improvement unfortunately.
 

 
 


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Debian GNU/kFreeBSD

2011-02-06 Thread Bahman Kahinpour
Hello,
I have heard that Debian project has replaced the Linux kernel in
their distribution with FreeBSD kernel and have released Debian
GNU/kFreeBSD. Since this version, they will release Debian
GNU/kFreeBSD as a stable port.
What is this all about? What will be consequences for FreeBSD? Will a
lot of FreeBSD users move to that distribution?
Good Luck
Bahman Kahinpour
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Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze...

2011-02-06 Thread Rob Farmer
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote:
 Net, I've formatted drives as fat32 that were well over 4gb. In fact I have
 an external 120gb we datavault that's fat32


Max per file, not the whole partition. Virtual machines generally
store the whole disk as a single file, though Vmware has an option to
split it up for these situations.

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Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze...

2011-02-06 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Eric Schuele e.schu...@computer.org wrote:

 Ok... found the logs.  :)
 Looks as if each machine has 4 log files, and that the set of files is
 from the last run.  Anything in there I could post to help diagnose?


Let's see what's in the most recent log of an affected VM.  If you have any
funky options like page fusion enabled disable them.

What the output of gstat(8) and top(1) look like when you reach this
degraded state?


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Re: Debian GNU/kFreeBSD

2011-02-06 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Feb 07), Bahman Kahinpour said:
 I have heard that Debian project has replaced the Linux kernel in
 their distribution with FreeBSD kernel and have released Debian
 GNU/kFreeBSD. Since this version, they will release Debian
 GNU/kFreeBSD as a stable port.
 What is this all about? What will be consequences for FreeBSD? Will a
 lot of FreeBSD users move to that distribution?

I expect Debian users will try GNU/kFreeBSD and like it so much they wtill
switch to full FreeBSD.

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Re: Debian GNU/kFreeBSD

2011-02-06 Thread b. f.
 I have heard that Debian project has replaced the Linux kernel in
 their distribution with FreeBSD kernel and have released Debian
 GNU/kFreeBSD. Since this version, they will release Debian
 GNU/kFreeBSD as a stable port.
 What is this all about?

As you can see from their webpages, they replaced the Linux kernel
with a patched FreeBSD 8.1 kernel, but kept most of the rest of the
Debian base system and packaging system.  It's for users who prefer a
FreeBSD kernel, but want a Debian userland and packages, and don't
have a problem with the different licenses. Gentoo has a similar
project:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/bsd/fbsd/

There are also some NetBSD-base derivatives.

What will be consequences for FreeBSD? Will a
 lot of FreeBSD users move to that distribution?

Well, only time will tell, but I doubt that either will completely
replace the other in the near future.  There has already been some
interaction between the two projects -- I remember a few recent
changes made in FreeBSD because of feedback from Debian users and
developers.

b.
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