X-Authentication-Warning (FreeBSD 8.1 STABLE)

2011-02-25 Thread Andy Wodfer
Hi,
A client is sending out a newsletter and I'm trying to set the FreeBSD
server user (www) to be trusted so that I don't get this warning in the
message header:

X-Authentication-Warning: host.domain.net: www set sender to
post@domain.netusing -f

I assume this is to be set in the sendmail.cf file (Twww), but on my FreeBSD
8.1 STABLE I have both a sendmail.cf and a freebsd.cf aswell as a
freebsd.submit.cf. I haven't played around with sendmail for a couple of
years, but I also seem to remember that you don't just edit the .cf file,
but infact edit the mc file and compile, install and restart?

Can someone please guide me through here?

PS! I'm the only login user on this system, but are there security issues
related to this that I should be concerned with?

Thanks!
Andy
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How can I disable Internet access for programs running in Wine?

2011-02-25 Thread erikmccaskey64

I just can find any solution...

Please help!


thanks..

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setting up svn server - Connection refused

2011-02-25 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I'm learning how to set up svn server.
I've read through several sections of
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/

Here's what I do:

ZEEV svnadmin create /home/mexas/zzz
ZEEV svnlook info zzz

2011-02-25 09:15:28 + (Fri, 25 Feb 2011)
0
ZEEV svnserve -d
ZEEV ps ax | grep svnserve
66952  ??  Ss 0:00.01 /usr/local/bin/svnserve.bin -d
ZEEV mkdir /home/mexas/zzz.work
ZEEV cd /home/mexas/zzz.work/

When I try to connect to the svn server, I get this:


ZEEV svn co svn://localhost/home/mexas/zzz .
svn: Can't connect to host 'localhost': Network is unreachable
ZEEV svn co svn://10.10.10.14/home/mexas/zzz .
svn: Can't connect to host '10.10.10.14': Connection refused

ZEEV ifconfig em1
em1: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500

options=209bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC
ether 00:13:21:5b:05:1d
inet 10.10.10.14 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.10.10.255
inet6 fe80::213:21ff:fe5b:51d%em1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 
nd6 options=29PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED,AUTO_LINKLOCAL
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active
ZEEV 

I get exactly the same Connection refused if I
connect from another host.

I turned the firewall off completely.

What could be the problems?

Many thanks
Anton

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Re: Backtick versus $()

2011-02-25 Thread perryh
Thorsten Glaser t...@mirbsd.org wrote:

 tcsh is not a shell ...
 http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/

If you are _that_ strongly opposed to (t)csh, sir, I submit that you
are wasting your time reading and posting to a FreeBSD mailing list.
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Re: Strange behavior of MTU on loopback interfaces.

2011-02-25 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis

On 2/25/2011 9:29 AM, c0re wrote:

Hello all!

I'm testing setting lower MTU on loopback interfaces to avoid some MTU
problems with IPSEC in a path of traffic.

ifconfig lo1 create
ifconfig lo1 mtu 1300
ifconfig lo1 5.5.5.5/32

# ifconfig lo1
lo1: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST  metric 0 mtu 1300
 inet 5.5.5.5 netmask 0x

#ifconfig em0
em0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST  metric 0 mtu 1500
 options=9bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM
 ether 12:ac:29:7c:fa:39
 inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255
 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTXfull-duplex)
 status: active


And I set only one Listen 5.5.5.5:80 in http.conf in apache 2.2

# sockstat -4 | grep 80
www  httpd  96843 3  tcp4   5.5.5.5:80*:*
www  httpd  96838 3  tcp4   5.5.5.5:80*:*
www  httpd  96837 3  tcp4   5.5.5.5:80*:*
www  httpd  96836 3  tcp4   5.5.5.5:80*:*
www  httpd  96835 3  tcp4   5.5.5.5:80*:*
www  httpd  96834 3  tcp4   5.5.5.5:80*:*
root httpd  96833 3  tcp4   5.5.5.5:80*:*

I run tcpdump -ni em0 port 80. And made telnet 5.5.5.5 80 from other
host and saw something wrong.

10:26:01.640866 IP 10.0.0.2.57553  5.5.5.5.80: S
1049284626:1049284626(0) win 65535mss 1460,sackOK,eol
10:26:01.640902 IP 5.5.5.5.80  10.0.0.2.57553: S
2144222949:2144222949(0) ack 1049284627 win 65535mss
1460,sackOK,eol
10:26:01.642632 IP 10.0.0.2.57553  5.5.5.5.80: . ack 1 win 65535

5.5.5.5:80 said that it has got tcp mss 1460. Why? I was waiting for
something like 1260.


It uses the MTU of the outgoing path, which is 1500.
You change the MTU for specific paths, using route and the mtu modifier.
Like this:


lab# ifconfig em0
em0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=9bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM
ether 08:00:27:17:c3:de
inet 192.168.73.193 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.73.255
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT full-duplex)
status: active
lab# route change 192.168.73.0 -mtu 1100
change net 192.168.73.0
lab# route -n get 192.168.73.0
   route to: 192.168.73.0
destination: 192.168.73.0
   mask: 255.255.255.0
  interface: em0
  flags: UP,DONE,STATIC
 recvpipe  sendpipe  ssthresh  rtt,msecmtuweightexpire
   0 0 0 0  1100 1 0
lab#


All packets going to 192.168.73.0/24 will use IP packet sizes up to
1100. IMHO it's better to leave the physical interface's MTU unchanged
and use the routing subsystem to define the maximum IP packet size per
path.

HTH, Nikos
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Re: Strange behavior of MTU on loopback interfaces.

2011-02-25 Thread c0re
2011/2/25 Nikos Vassiliadis nv...@gmx.com:
 On 2/25/2011 9:29 AM, c0re wrote:

 Hello all!

 I'm testing setting lower MTU on loopback interfaces to avoid some MTU
 problems with IPSEC in a path of traffic.

 ifconfig lo1 create
 ifconfig lo1 mtu 1300
 ifconfig lo1 5.5.5.5/32

 # ifconfig lo1
 lo1: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST  metric 0 mtu 1300
         inet 5.5.5.5 netmask 0x

 #ifconfig em0
 em0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST  metric 0 mtu 1500
         options=9bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM
         ether 12:ac:29:7c:fa:39
         inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255
         media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTXfull-duplex)
         status: active


 And I set only one Listen 5.5.5.5:80 in http.conf in apache 2.2

 # sockstat -4 | grep 80
 www      httpd      96843 3  tcp4   5.5.5.5:80            *:*
 www      httpd      96838 3  tcp4   5.5.5.5:80            *:*
 www      httpd      96837 3  tcp4   5.5.5.5:80            *:*
 www      httpd      96836 3  tcp4   5.5.5.5:80            *:*
 www      httpd      96835 3  tcp4   5.5.5.5:80            *:*
 www      httpd      96834 3  tcp4   5.5.5.5:80            *:*
 root     httpd      96833 3  tcp4   5.5.5.5:80            *:*

 I run tcpdump -ni em0 port 80. And made telnet 5.5.5.5 80 from other
 host and saw something wrong.

 10:26:01.640866 IP 10.0.0.2.57553  5.5.5.5.80: S
 1049284626:1049284626(0) win 65535mss 1460,sackOK,eol
 10:26:01.640902 IP 5.5.5.5.80  10.0.0.2.57553: S
 2144222949:2144222949(0) ack 1049284627 win 65535mss
 1460,sackOK,eol
 10:26:01.642632 IP 10.0.0.2.57553  5.5.5.5.80: . ack 1 win 65535

 5.5.5.5:80 said that it has got tcp mss 1460. Why? I was waiting for
 something like 1260.

 It uses the MTU of the outgoing path, which is 1500.
 You change the MTU for specific paths, using route and the mtu modifier.
 Like this:

 lab# ifconfig em0
 em0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
        options=9bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM
        ether 08:00:27:17:c3:de
        inet 192.168.73.193 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.73.255
        media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT full-duplex)
        status: active
 lab# route change 192.168.73.0 -mtu 1100
 change net 192.168.73.0
 lab# route -n get 192.168.73.0
   route to: 192.168.73.0
 destination: 192.168.73.0
       mask: 255.255.255.0
  interface: em0
      flags: UP,DONE,STATIC
  recvpipe  sendpipe  ssthresh  rtt,msec    mtu        weight    expire
       0         0         0         0      1100         1         0
 lab#

 All packets going to 192.168.73.0/24 will use IP packet sizes up to
 1100. IMHO it's better to leave the physical interface's MTU unchanged
 and use the routing subsystem to define the maximum IP packet size per
 path.

 HTH, Nikos


Works like a charm!

# route change 0.0.0.0 -mtu 1300
change net 0.0.0.0

# tcpdump -ni em0 host 5.5.5.5
13:42:58.996721 IP 10.0.0.2.51933  5.5.5.5.80: S
626695541:626695541(0) win 64512 mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK
13:42:58.996760 IP 5.5.5.5.80  10.0.0.2.51933: S
289198669:289198669(0) ack 626695542 win 65535 mss 1260,sackOK,eol
13:42:58.999455 IP 10.0.0.2.51933  5.5.5.5.80: . ack 1 win 64512

Thank you very much!
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GELI reliability

2011-02-25 Thread Terje Elde
Hi,

I'm curious about GELIs theoretical behavior when faced with errors, and also 
any experience anyone might have.

As an example, if I run ZFS with raidz over X drives, then the zpool should 
have no issue surviving the complete loss of a full disk.  Also, the familiar 
FAILURE - READ_DMA or READ_DMA48 errors from a disk having a bad day should 
also be no issue, certainly not an issue that would result in crash, or worse 
still, loss of data.

What I'm wondering is how much worse off the data would be if I were to slide 
inn a GELI layer between the physical drives, and the zpool.

That is, if I use GELI directly on the individual drives ( /dev/ada0, /dev/ada1 
etc), then make a raidz pool on top of the .eli devices ( /dev/ada0.eli, 
/dev/ada1.eli etc).

For READ_DMA type errors, I suppose GELI could just forward the same errors up 
the stack, and that'd be that, the errors wouldn't be any more severe than what 
I'd have anyway?

One exception could be if GELI sector size is larger than disk sector size.  
Not being too familiar with GELIs internal workings, I'm not sure that has to 
be the case though.  GELI sectors have a new IV pr. sector, but the crypto 
itself is still done in 128 or 256 bit blocks, so given a single faulty disk 
sector, the rest of the GELI sector could still be read and decrypted?  Or are 
entire GELI sectors faulted if a (smaller) underlaying sector is unreadable?

And finally, what if an entire drive dies a cruel and horribly death, all of 
it's data returning to the large bit bucket in the sky?  Would GELI simply 
relay the same errors upstack to ZFS, so ZFS would be able to handle it as well 
as it would have without GELI?


I've used ZFS over GELI in the past, but never had any hardware issues to see 
how it plays out.

I'm considering deploying it for more stuff now, and reliability wise, from 
what I know, I could loose very little by using GELI, or it could be time to 
buy napkins, because the risk of a grown man crying while trying to mop up 
spilled bits from the floor is increased significantly.

(backups should avoid the need for tears though, besides, I don't have a mop)

Terje

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Kernel compiling problems

2011-02-25 Thread Redd Vinylene
Heya!

Anybody know what's wrong with this?

## make buildworld buildkernel KERNCONF=NINJA

cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing  -std=c99  -Wall -Wredundant-decls
-Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith
-Winline -Wcast-qual  -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions
-nostdinc  -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL
-DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common
-finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param
large-function-growth=1000  -mno-align-long-strings
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2
-mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -Werror
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:163: error: invalid application of 'sizeof' to
incomplete type 'struct freebsd7_msgctl_args'
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:163: error: 'freebsd7_msgctl' undeclared here
(not in a function)
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1463: error: initializer element is not
constant
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1463: error: (near initialization for
'msgcalls[0]')
cc1: warnings being treated as errors
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1507: warning: function declaration isn't a
prototype
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c: In function 'freebsd7_msgctl':
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1516: error: dereferencing pointer to
incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1516: error: request for member 'cmd' in
something not a structure or union
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1516: warning: comparison between pointer and
integer
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1517: error: dereferencing pointer to
incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1517: error: request for member 'buf' in
something not a structure or union
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1532: error: dereferencing pointer to
incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1532: error: request for member 'msqid' in
something not a structure or union
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1532: error: dereferencing pointer to
incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1532: error: request for member 'cmd' in
something not a structure or union
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1532: warning: passing argument 2 of
'kern_msgctl' makes integer from pointer without a cast
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1532: warning: passing argument 3 of
'kern_msgctl' makes integer from pointer without a cast
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1535: error: dereferencing pointer to
incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1535: error: request for member 'cmd' in
something not a structure or union
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1535: warning: comparison between pointer and
integer
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1548: error: dereferencing pointer to
incomplete type
/usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1548: error: request for member 'buf' in
something not a structure or union
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NINJA.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.

## /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NINJA

cpu I586_CPU

ident NINJA

options SCHED_ULE

options PREEMPTION

options FFS

options SOFTUPDATES

options UFS_ACL

options UFS_DIRHASH

options UFS_GJOURNAL

options MD_ROOT

options MSDOSFS

options CD9660

options PROCFS

options PSEUDOFS

options COMPAT_43

options COMPAT_FREEBSD4

options COMPAT_FREEBSD5

options COMPAT_FREEBSD6

options KTRACE

options SYSVSHM

options SYSVMSG

options SYSVSEM

options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV

options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING

device pci

device sio

device ata

device atadisk

device atapicd

options ATA_STATIC_ID

device fdc

device atkbdc

device atkbd

device psm

device vga

device splash

device sc

device sound

device ether

device miibus

device rl

device ep

device loop

device random

device tun

device pty

device md

options AUDIT

options INET

options INET6

device gif

device faith

device bpf

device pf

device pflog

device pfsync

options ALTQ

options ALTQ_CBQ

options ALTQ_RED

options ALTQ_RIO

options ALTQ_HFSC

options ALTQ_PRIQ

## uname -v

FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 24 18:57:08 CEST 2008

## /etc/cvsupfile

*default host=cvsup.no.FreeBSD.org

*default base=/var/db

*default prefix=/usr

*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8

*default delete use-rel-suffix

src-all

doc-all tag=.

Many thanks!
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Re: Tuning routing table size in FreeBSD 8.0 and 7.2

2011-02-25 Thread Valentin Bud
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:37 PM, nikitha sumi.tec...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you all, for your timely reply..
 To answer Niko's question: Just i'm doing some performance/stress testing
 of
 a freebsd router.. :-)

 -Sumi

 On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Nikos Vassiliadis nv...@gmx.com wrote:

  On 2/24/2011 4:51 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
 
  On 2/24/11 3:00 PM, nikitha wrote:
 
  Hi,
  Could you plz share the information on the maximum number of routes
 that
  can
  be added (by default) in FREEBSD 8.0/7.2 kernel?
  In Linux the sysctl rt_max_size is used. Is there a similar tunable
  parameter in freeBSD?
 
  [snip]
 
 
  I could not find a sysctl that matched what you're looking for.
 
  AFAIK, the routing table is limited only by the amount of RAM you can
  allocate to it.
 
 
  Yes. You can use vmstat -z | grep rtentry to examine it.
  It seems trivial to add a limit there(without having thought of
  multiple routing tables and vnet).
 
  Out of curiosity, why would you want such a limit?
 
 
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Hello Sumi,

 What tools do you use to perform the tests?

thanks,
v
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Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-25 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:20:13 -0700 (MST)
Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com articulated:

 On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, Edwin L. Culp W. wrote:
 
  2011/2/24 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com:
  On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, Jerry wrote:
 
  Is FreeBSD now HAL free or is it still a requirement? I still
  have it activated via /etc/rc.conf If it is not needed, I would
  be happy to remove the entry.
 
  It's not a requirement.  You can build xorg-server without it, and
  there are other mechanisms available to provide at least some of
  the same functionality in FreeBSD.  For example, using devd to
  detect hot-plugged USB devices.  There isn't yet a complete
  replacement like Linux's udev, though.
 
  Sounded like a good idea to me but ;)
 
  pkg_deinstall hal-0.5.14_12
  ---  Deinstalling 'hal-0.5.14_12'
  pkg_delete: package 'hal-0.5.14_12' is required by these other
  packages and may not be deinstalled:
 
 Well, actually I wasn't thinking of anything but xorg and device 
 detection.  The newest xfce removed support for hal.  Maybe GNOME and 
 KDE are in the process of doing the same.

GNOME switched over a year ago, KDE and XFCE finished the
transition a couple of months back. Other distros are apparently not
even distributing it. What is preventing FBSD from joining the party?

-- 
Jerry ✌
freebsd.u...@seibercom.net

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Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-25 Thread Robert Huff

Jerry writes:

  GNOME switched over a year ago, KDE and XFCE finished the
  transition a couple of months back. Other distros are apparently
  not even distributing it. What is preventing FBSD from joining
  the party?

Lack of someone willing, able, and available to do the work.
(Should your name be on that list?   :-)


Robert Huff

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Re: Backtick versus $()

2011-02-25 Thread Chris Rees
On 25 February 2011 02:55, Andres Perera andre...@zoho.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 I apologize for the grammaticall brokenness of that sentence.

 maybe you should spam the hundreds of subscribers of this mailing list with
 this line:

 s,grammaticall,grammatical,


 jesus christ, you're such a friggen noob

Before you criticise another's spelling/grammar, perhaps you could
learn where the Shift key is.

Also, some quotes from you (spot the errors):

and tcsh is inferior to mksh in everyway

tcsh built uppon that code instead of basing [wow, two in the same sentence]

been consistently argueing against the opposite

a buncha noobs is what you both are [paira perhaps]


Normally it's considered bad form to attack another's use of language,
but you lose that protection if you pick on others' QWC.

By the way, there's no such thing as a 'strawman', and perhaps you
could read about ad hominem arguments [1] and how you automatically
lose any arguments where you bring them in.

Chris

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
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Re: setting up svn server - Connection refused

2011-02-25 Thread David Kelly

On Feb 25, 2011, at 3:23 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

 When I try to connect to the svn server, I get this:
 
 ZEEV svn co svn://localhost/home/mexas/zzz .
 svn: Can't connect to host 'localhost': Network is unreachable
 ZEEV svn co svn://10.10.10.14/home/mexas/zzz .
 svn: Can't connect to host '10.10.10.14': Connection refused

Forget the SVN server daemon its much easier to use svn+ssh:// than svn://

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Re: Kernel compiling problems

2011-02-25 Thread Chris Rees
On 25 February 2011 11:21, Redd Vinylene reddvinyl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Heya!

 Anybody know what's wrong with this?

 ## make buildworld buildkernel KERNCONF=NINJA


Have you successfully used NINJA to build a kernel before?

Chris
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Re: Kernel compiling problems

2011-02-25 Thread Damien Fleuriot
Do not use a custom kern for your upgrade, build generic with pf and altq.

I'm not sure your CPU type is correct ?
I could be wrong, haven't used 32bits for a while.

Make clean, then build the world, then your kern.
Once you have generic working, make your custom kern

---
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On 25 Feb 2011, at 12:21, Redd Vinylene reddvinyl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Heya!
 
 Anybody know what's wrong with this?
 
 ## make buildworld buildkernel KERNCONF=NINJA
 
 cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing  -std=c99  -Wall -Wredundant-decls
 -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith
 -Winline -Wcast-qual  -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions
 -nostdinc  -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL
 -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common
 -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param
 large-function-growth=1000  -mno-align-long-strings
 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2
 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -Werror
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:163: error: invalid application of 'sizeof' to
 incomplete type 'struct freebsd7_msgctl_args'
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:163: error: 'freebsd7_msgctl' undeclared here
 (not in a function)
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1463: error: initializer element is not
 constant
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1463: error: (near initialization for
 'msgcalls[0]')
 cc1: warnings being treated as errors
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1507: warning: function declaration isn't a
 prototype
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c: In function 'freebsd7_msgctl':
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1516: error: dereferencing pointer to
 incomplete type
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1516: error: request for member 'cmd' in
 something not a structure or union
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1516: warning: comparison between pointer and
 integer
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1517: error: dereferencing pointer to
 incomplete type
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1517: error: request for member 'buf' in
 something not a structure or union
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1532: error: dereferencing pointer to
 incomplete type
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1532: error: request for member 'msqid' in
 something not a structure or union
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1532: error: dereferencing pointer to
 incomplete type
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1532: error: request for member 'cmd' in
 something not a structure or union
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1532: warning: passing argument 2 of
 'kern_msgctl' makes integer from pointer without a cast
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1532: warning: passing argument 3 of
 'kern_msgctl' makes integer from pointer without a cast
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1535: error: dereferencing pointer to
 incomplete type
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1535: error: request for member 'cmd' in
 something not a structure or union
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1535: warning: comparison between pointer and
 integer
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1548: error: dereferencing pointer to
 incomplete type
 /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c:1548: error: request for member 'buf' in
 something not a structure or union
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NINJA.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/src.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/src.
 
 ## /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NINJA
 
 cpu I586_CPU
 
 ident NINJA
 
 options SCHED_ULE
 
 options PREEMPTION
 
 options FFS
 
 options SOFTUPDATES
 
 options UFS_ACL
 
 options UFS_DIRHASH
 
 options UFS_GJOURNAL
 
 options MD_ROOT
 
 options MSDOSFS
 
 options CD9660
 
 options PROCFS
 
 options PSEUDOFS
 
 options COMPAT_43
 
 options COMPAT_FREEBSD4
 
 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5
 
 options COMPAT_FREEBSD6
 
 options KTRACE
 
 options SYSVSHM
 
 options SYSVMSG
 
 options SYSVSEM
 
 options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV
 
 options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
 
 device pci
 
 device sio
 
 device ata
 
 device atadisk
 
 device atapicd
 
 options ATA_STATIC_ID
 
 device fdc
 
 device atkbdc
 
 device atkbd
 
 device psm
 
 device vga
 
 device splash
 
 device sc
 
 device sound
 
 device ether
 
 device miibus
 
 device rl
 
 device ep
 
 device loop
 
 device random
 
 device tun
 
 device pty
 
 device md
 
 options AUDIT
 
 options INET
 
 options INET6
 
 device gif
 
 device faith
 
 device bpf
 
 device pf
 
 device pflog
 
 device pfsync
 
 options ALTQ
 
 options ALTQ_CBQ
 
 options ALTQ_RED
 
 options ALTQ_RIO
 
 options ALTQ_HFSC
 
 options ALTQ_PRIQ
 
 ## uname -v
 
 FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 24 18:57:08 CEST 2008
 
 ## /etc/cvsupfile
 
 *default host=cvsup.no.FreeBSD.org
 
 *default base=/var/db
 
 *default prefix=/usr
 
 *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8
 
 *default delete use-rel-suffix
 
 src-all
 
 doc-all tag=.
 
 Many thanks!
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Re: setting up svn server - Connection refused

2011-02-25 Thread Greg Larkin
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On 2/25/11 4:23 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 I'm learning how to set up svn server.
 I've read through several sections of
 http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/
 
 Here's what I do:
 
 ZEEV svnadmin create /home/mexas/zzz
 ZEEV svnlook info zzz
 
 2011-02-25 09:15:28 + (Fri, 25 Feb 2011)
 0
 ZEEV svnserve -d
 ZEEV ps ax | grep svnserve
 66952  ??  Ss 0:00.01 /usr/local/bin/svnserve.bin -d
 ZEEV mkdir /home/mexas/zzz.work
 ZEEV cd /home/mexas/zzz.work/
 
 When I try to connect to the svn server, I get this:
 
 
 ZEEV svn co svn://localhost/home/mexas/zzz .
 svn: Can't connect to host 'localhost': Network is unreachable
 ZEEV svn co svn://10.10.10.14/home/mexas/zzz .
 svn: Can't connect to host '10.10.10.14': Connection refused
 
 ZEEV ifconfig em1
 em1: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
 
 options=209bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC
 ether 00:13:21:5b:05:1d
 inet 10.10.10.14 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.10.10.255
 inet6 fe80::213:21ff:fe5b:51d%em1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 
 nd6 options=29PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED,AUTO_LINKLOCAL
 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
 status: active
 ZEEV 
 
 I get exactly the same Connection refused if I
 connect from another host.
 
 I turned the firewall off completely.
 
 What could be the problems?
 
 Many thanks
 Anton
 

Hi Anton,

The first place that I'd start is checking if the TCP port for svnserve
is listening for connections:

netstat -an | grep 3690

If it isn't, then something is not working correctly when svnserve
starts in daemon mode.  If it is listening, then something is still
blocking the connection from your svn client to the TCP port.

The fact that you're getting a localhost: Network is unreachable error
is strange.  What is the output of /sbin/ifconfig -a and netstat -rn?

Regards,
Greg
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Re: setting up svn server - Connection refused

2011-02-25 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 09:15:30AM -0500, Greg Larkin wrote:
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 On 2/25/11 4:23 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  I'm learning how to set up svn server.
  I've read through several sections of
  http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/
  
  Here's what I do:
  
  ZEEV svnadmin create /home/mexas/zzz
  ZEEV svnlook info zzz
  
  2011-02-25 09:15:28 + (Fri, 25 Feb 2011)
  0
  ZEEV svnserve -d
  ZEEV ps ax | grep svnserve
  66952  ??  Ss 0:00.01 /usr/local/bin/svnserve.bin -d
  ZEEV mkdir /home/mexas/zzz.work
  ZEEV cd /home/mexas/zzz.work/
  
  When I try to connect to the svn server, I get this:
  
  
  ZEEV svn co svn://localhost/home/mexas/zzz .
  svn: Can't connect to host 'localhost': Network is unreachable
  ZEEV svn co svn://10.10.10.14/home/mexas/zzz .
  svn: Can't connect to host '10.10.10.14': Connection refused
  
  ZEEV ifconfig em1
  em1: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
  
  options=209bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC
  ether 00:13:21:5b:05:1d
  inet 10.10.10.14 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.10.10.255
  inet6 fe80::213:21ff:fe5b:51d%em1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 
  nd6 options=29PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED,AUTO_LINKLOCAL
  media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
  status: active
  ZEEV 
  
  I get exactly the same Connection refused if I
  connect from another host.
  
  I turned the firewall off completely.
  
  What could be the problems?
  
  Many thanks
  Anton
  
 
 Hi Anton,
 
 The first place that I'd start is checking if the TCP port for svnserve
 is listening for connections:
 
 netstat -an | grep 3690

# svnserve -d
# netstat -an | grep 3690
tcp6   0  0 *.3690 *.*LISTEN
# 

 If it isn't, then something is not working correctly when svnserve
 starts in daemon mode.  If it is listening, then something is still
 blocking the connection from your svn client to the TCP port.
 
 The fact that you're getting a localhost: Network is unreachable error
 is strange.  What is the output of /sbin/ifconfig -a and netstat -rn?

# /sbin/ifconfig -a
em0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500

options=209bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC
ether 00:13:21:5b:05:1c
inet 137.222.187.28 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 137.222.187.255
inet6 fe80::213:21ff:fe5b:51c%em0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 
nd6 options=29PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED,AUTO_LINKLOCAL
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT full-duplex)
status: active
em1: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500

options=209bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC
ether 00:13:21:5b:05:1d
inet 10.10.10.14 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.10.10.255
inet6 fe80::213:21ff:fe5b:51d%em1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 
nd6 options=29PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED,AUTO_LINKLOCAL
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384
options=3RXCSUM,TXCSUM
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6 
nd6 options=21PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL
# 



# netstat -rn
Routing tables

Internet:
DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs  Use  Netif Expire
default137.222.187.250UGS 0  697em0
10.10.10.0/24  link#5 U   00em1
10.10.10.14link#5 UHS 00lo0
127.0.0.1  link#6 UH  0   44lo0
137.222.187.0/24   link#4 U   1  338em0
137.222.187.28 link#4 UHS 00lo0

Internet6:
Destination   Gateway   Flags  
Netif Expire
::/96 ::1   UGRSlo0
::1   ::1   UH  lo0
:::0.0.0.0/96 ::1   UGRSlo0
fe80::/10 ::1   UGRSlo0
fe80::%em0/64 link#4U   em0
fe80::213:21ff:fe5b:51c%em0   link#4UHS lo0
fe80::%em1/64 link#5U   em1
fe80::213:21ff:fe5b:51d%em1   link#5UHS lo0
fe80::%lo0/64 link#6U   lo0
fe80::1%lo0   link#6UHS lo0
ff01:4::/32   fe80::213:21ff:fe5b:51c%em0   U   em0
ff01:5::/32   fe80::213:21ff:fe5b:51d%em1   U   em1

Re: setting up svn server - Connection refused

2011-02-25 Thread Frank Shute
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 09:23:03AM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

 I'm learning how to set up svn server.
 I've read through several sections of
 http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/
 
 Here's what I do:
 
 ZEEV svnadmin create /home/mexas/zzz
 ZEEV svnlook info zzz
 
 2011-02-25 09:15:28 + (Fri, 25 Feb 2011)
 0
 ZEEV svnserve -d
 ZEEV ps ax | grep svnserve
 66952  ??  Ss 0:00.01 /usr/local/bin/svnserve.bin -d
 ZEEV mkdir /home/mexas/zzz.work
 ZEEV cd /home/mexas/zzz.work/
 
 When I try to connect to the svn server, I get this:
 
 
 ZEEV svn co svn://localhost/home/mexas/zzz .
 svn: Can't connect to host 'localhost': Network is unreachable

This sounds like it's a problem with your routing table. Does:

$ netstat -r

show a destination of localhost?

$ ping localhost

is useful.

 ZEEV svn co svn://10.10.10.14/home/mexas/zzz .
 svn: Can't connect to host '10.10.10.14': Connection refused

That's more hopeful. Don't know what's wrong though!

 
 ZEEV ifconfig em1
 em1: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
 
 options=209bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC
 ether 00:13:21:5b:05:1d
 inet 10.10.10.14 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.10.10.255
 inet6 fe80::213:21ff:fe5b:51d%em1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 
 nd6 options=29PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED,AUTO_LINKLOCAL
 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
 status: active
 ZEEV 
 
 I get exactly the same Connection refused if I
 connect from another host.
 
 I turned the firewall off completely.
 
 What could be the problems?
 

It was a few years ago that I setup my svn repository and I referenced
the book you're using too. 

I launch it out of inetd.conf.

I've got the line:

svn stream  tcp nowait  frank   /usr/local/bin/svnserve svnserve -i

in there. Fixed hosts.allow to only allow machines on the lan to
connect and it works well.

Sorry I can't be more helpful but a different approach to running a
daemon permanently is probably a good idea.


Regards,

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Re: setting up svn server - Connection refused

2011-02-25 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 07:09:04AM -0600, David Kelly wrote:
 
 On Feb 25, 2011, at 3:23 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 
  When I try to connect to the svn server, I get this:
  
  ZEEV svn co svn://localhost/home/mexas/zzz .
  svn: Can't connect to host 'localhost': Network is unreachable
  ZEEV svn co svn://10.10.10.14/home/mexas/zzz .
  svn: Can't connect to host '10.10.10.14': Connection refused
 
 Forget the SVN server daemon its much easier to use svn+ssh:// than svn://

Yes, it is much simpler, and works ok.

Many thanks
Anton

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Re: setting up svn server - Connection refused

2011-02-25 Thread Greg Larkin
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On 2/25/11 9:32 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
[...]
 
 
 Many thanks for your help, Greg.
 
 However, following David Kelly's advice,
 I switched to svn+ssh, and that seems
 to work fine. Nevertheless, I'm curious
 to find out why svnserve is not working
 as expected. 
 
 Anton
 

Hi Anton,

Frank Shute mentioned /etc/hosts.allow in his reply. Is there anything
in that file that prevents the connection to TCP port 3690?

Otherwise, I didn't see anything in the output of your commands that
indicate a problem.  When I have a problem like this, I often run the
failing command under truss(1) or strace to help me determine why a
connection fails or a file cannot be opened.  That may help, but I'm
glad svn+ssh:// is working in the mean time.

Cheers,
Greg
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Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-25 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, Jerry wrote:


GNOME switched over a year ago, KDE and XFCE finished the
transition a couple of months back. Other distros are apparently not
even distributing it. What is preventing FBSD from joining the party?


Lack of a udev specification, for a start:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2011-February/010481.html
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Re: setting up svn server - Connection refused

2011-02-25 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 09:59:54AM -0500, Greg Larkin wrote:
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 On 2/25/11 9:32 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 [...]
  
  
  Many thanks for your help, Greg.
  
  However, following David Kelly's advice,
  I switched to svn+ssh, and that seems
  to work fine. Nevertheless, I'm curious
  to find out why svnserve is not working
  as expected. 
  
  Anton
  
 
 Hi Anton,
 
 Frank Shute mentioned /etc/hosts.allow in his reply. Is there anything
 in that file that prevents the connection to TCP port 3690?

not sure, here it is:

#
# hosts.allow access control file for tcp wrapped applications.
# $FreeBSD: head/etc/hosts.allow 161710 2006-08-29 09:20:48Z ru $
#
# NOTE: The hosts.deny file is deprecated.
#   Place both 'allow' and 'deny' rules in the hosts.allow file.
#   See hosts_options(5) for the format of this file.
#   hosts_access(5) no longer fully applies.

# Protect against simple DNS spoofing attacks by checking that the
# forward and reverse records for the remote host match. If a mismatch
# occurs, access is denied, and any positive ident response within
# 20 seconds is logged. No protection is afforded against DNS poisoning,
# IP spoofing or more complicated attacks. Hosts with no reverse DNS
# pass this rule.
ALL : PARANOID : RFC931 20 : deny

# Allow anything from localhost.  Note that an IP address (not a host
# name) *MUST* be specified for rpcbind(8).
ALL : localhost 127.0.0.1 : allow

# Comment out next line if you build libwrap without IPv6 support.
ALL : [::1] : allow
#ALL : my.machine.example.com 192.0.2.35 : allow

# To use IPv6 addresses you must enclose them in []'s
#ALL : [fe80::%fxp0]/10 : allow
#ALL : [fe80::]/10 : deny
#ALL : [2001:db8:2:1:2:3:4:3fe1] : deny
#ALL : [2001:db8:2:1::]/64 : allow

# Sendmail can help protect you against spammers and relay-rapers
sendmail : localhost : allow
#sendmail : .nice.guy.example.com : allow
#sendmail : .evil.cracker.example.com : deny
sendmail : ALL : allow

# Rpcbind is used for all RPC services; protect your NFS!
# (IP addresses rather than hostnames *MUST* be used here)
#rpcbind : 192.0.2.32/255.255.255.224 : allow
#rpcbind : 192.0.2.96/255.255.255.224 : allow
rpcbind : ALL : deny

# NIS master server. Only local nets should have access
# (Since this is an RPC service, rpcbind needs to be considered)
ypserv : localhost : allow
#ypserv : .unsafe.my.net.example.com : deny
#ypserv : .my.net.example.com : allow
ypserv : ALL : deny

#
sshd : ALL : allow
svn : ALL : allow

# allow all access from TZAV and pointyhat.freebsd.org
ALL : 137.222.187.241 : allow
ALL : 69.147.83.43 : allow
ALL : 10.10.10.31 : allow

# The rest of the daemons are protected.
ALL : ALL \
: severity auth.info \
: twist /bin/echo You are not welcome to use %d from %h.


 
 Otherwise, I didn't see anything in the output of your commands that
 indicate a problem.  When I have a problem like this, I often run the
 failing command under truss(1) or strace to help me determine why a
 connection fails or a file cannot be opened.  That may help, but I'm
 glad svn+ssh:// is working in the mean time.

Ok, I might try to learn how to use this tool..

Many thanks
Anton


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Re: Why FreeBSD fetch does not download a file via a proxy for HTTPS URLS (the same works fine for HTTP urls)

2011-02-25 Thread chandra reddy
Hi RW,

Thanks alot for your reply.

Do you mean to say curl also not using  a CONNECT to tunnel through to the
actual server?

How can I achieve downloading files HTTPS over a proxy?

Thanks
 %20http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.devel.hackers/42588
-Chandra

 Hi All,

 I am working on a project where i need to download a file via a proxy
 server using HTTPS protocol. I found that fetch does not work/support
 HTTPS requests over a proxy.

I just checked and neither do wget nor curl.

 I could overcome the above problem if I do the following change.

1375:
 1.58
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libfetch/http.c#rev1.58
 des  1376:if (purl) { 1.51
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libfetch/http.c#rev1.51
 des  1377:URL = purl;


I don't think that would work, presumably it would just cause an
attempt at an ssl connection to the proxy, followed by a GET request
for an https URL. https through a proxy is supposed to use a CONNECT to
tunnel through to the actual server.



On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:49 PM, chandra reddy cred...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am working on a project where i need to download a file via a proxy
 server using HTTPS protocol. I found that fetch does not work/support HTTPS
 requests over a proxy.

 My setup would be like this:



 Intranet
 Internet
 ---
 |  https or  http  |
  https
 | Client m/cs - Porxy Server
 --- Destination Server (or Download server)
 |  |
 ---


 I can use https or http  protocol between Client and Proxy but only HTTPS
 is used between proxy and Destination server(or Download server) .

 I tried to use squid proxy as my proxy server and tried to download a
 file from my download server to Client m/c using FreeBSD fetch command.
 It fails to download a file via proxy for HTTPS requests Please note that
 Proxy setup is 100% correct and a web server (Apache) running fine.
 [I have tested it using my Mozilla browser on my PC].

 I have done the following:

 1. *Download a file using HTTPS over a proxy server*

 #env HTTP_PROXY=http://proxy-server-ip:3128/ /usr/sbin/fetch -v -o
 /tmp/download.out 'https://destination-server-ip/index.htm'

 looking up destination-server-ip

 connecting todestination-server-ip:443

 connection established

 fetch: https://destination-server-ip/index.htm Authentication error
 Even I have tried this also and found the same error.

 #env HTTP_PROXY=https://proxy-server-ip:3128/ /usr/sbin/fetch -v -o
 /tmp/download.out 'https://destination-serve-ip/index.htm'


 My question is why it is not connected via Proxy sever. It tries to
 connect directly. I could see that if I use HTTP protocol then it connects
 via proxy.
 Please see the logs here.

 2. *Download a file using HTTP over a proxy server*

 #env HTTP_PROXY=http://proxy-server-ip:3128/ /usr/sbin/fetch -v -o
 /tmp/download.out 'http://destination-server-ip/index.htm'

 looking up proxy-server-ip

 connecting to proxy-server-ip:3128

 connection established

 requesting http://destination-server-ip/index.htm
 Even I have tried this also and found that works fine.

 #env HTTP_PROXY=https://proxy-server-ip:3128/ /usr/sbin/fetch -v -o
 /tmp/download.out 'http://destination-serve-ip/index.htm'

 I have debugged fetch and found that the following check is stopping
 HTTPS requests over a proxy.

 *http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libfetch/http.c

  .OR.

 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libfetch/http.c?annotate=1.78.2.5.4.1

 *

1375:
 1.58 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libfetch/http.c#rev1.58  
 des  1376:if (purl  strcasecmp(URL-scheme, SCHEME_HTTPS) 
 != 0) {
 1.51 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libfetch/http.c#rev1.51  
 des  1377:URL = purl;



 I could overcome the above problem if I do the following change.

1375:
 1.58 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libfetch/http.c#rev1.58  
 des  1376:if (purl) {
 1.51 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libfetch/http.c#rev1.51  
 des  1377:URL = purl;


 I want to know why HTTPS over proxy is not working with libfetch. I want
 to make it work how can do it?

 Thanks
 -Chandra




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freebsd-update housekeeping?

2011-02-25 Thread Neil Long

Hi

Just noticed how large /var/db/freebsd-update has grown on a box I  
just upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4 (but I can't recall when I started using  
it).


Is there a recommended approach or just rm the directory if I have no  
need to roll it back?


Thanks
Neil





Re: setting up svn server - Connection refused

2011-02-25 Thread Rob Farmer
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote:
 I'm learning how to set up svn server.
 I've read through several sections of
 http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/

 Here's what I do:

 ZEEV svnadmin create /home/mexas/zzz
 ZEEV svnlook info zzz

 2011-02-25 09:15:28 + (Fri, 25 Feb 2011)
 0
 ZEEV svnserve -d
 ZEEV ps ax | grep svnserve
 66952  ??  Ss     0:00.01 /usr/local/bin/svnserve.bin -d
 ZEEV mkdir /home/mexas/zzz.work
 ZEEV cd /home/mexas/zzz.work/

 When I try to connect to the svn server, I get this:


 ZEEV svn co svn://localhost/home/mexas/zzz .
 svn: Can't connect to host 'localhost': Network is unreachable
 ZEEV svn co svn://10.10.10.14/home/mexas/zzz .
 svn: Can't connect to host '10.10.10.14': Connection refused

 ZEEV ifconfig em1
 em1: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
        
 options=209bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC
        ether 00:13:21:5b:05:1d
        inet 10.10.10.14 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.10.10.255
        inet6 fe80::213:21ff:fe5b:51d%em1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
        nd6 options=29PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED,AUTO_LINKLOCAL
        media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
        status: active
 ZEEV

 I get exactly the same Connection refused if I
 connect from another host.

 I turned the firewall off completely.

 What could be the problems?

From the rc script (which would probably be better than starting it manually):

# Note:
# svnserve bind per default at the ipv6 address!
# If you want svnserve binding at ipv4 address, you have
# to use option 'svnserve_flags' with --listen-host parameter

Have you tried something like this in rc.conf:
svnserve_flags=-d --listen-port=3690 --listen-host 1.2.3.4

Also check the other variables in that file - you need to specify
where the repo is (-r), the user to run as, etc.

svn+ssh avoids all of this because there is no sever - it just
executes svn in the user's ssh session and manipulate the repo's files
directly (this allows users to accidentally or intentionally trash up
the repo, so svnserve is safer if you don't fully trust all your
committers. Plus you have to watch for permission and umask issues
with svn+ssh).

-- 
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Re: Backtick versus $()

2011-02-25 Thread Andres Perera
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 25 February 2011 02:55, Andres Perera andre...@zoho.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 I apologize for the grammaticall brokenness of that sentence.

 maybe you should spam the hundreds of subscribers of this mailing list with
 this line:

 s,grammaticall,grammatical,


 jesus christ, you're such a friggen noob

 Before you criticise another's spelling/grammar, perhaps you could
 learn where the Shift key is.

wow another misguided puppy

the keyword here is spamming

now think about the differences between a crappy php web forum and a
mailing list

and how grammar/spelling can be inferred



it's not just that you're noobs, but completely ungrateful ones


 Also, some quotes from you (spot the errors):

 and tcsh is inferior to mksh in everyway

 tcsh built uppon that code instead of basing [wow, two in the same sentence]

 been consistently argueing against the opposite

 a buncha noobs is what you both are [paira perhaps]


 Normally it's considered bad form to attack another's use of language,
 but you lose that protection if you pick on others' QWC.

 By the way, there's no such thing as a 'strawman', and perhaps you
 could read about ad hominem arguments [1] and how you automatically
 lose any arguments where you bring them in.

 Chris

 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

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Help: Looking to contact someone running FreeBSD on ESX

2011-02-25 Thread Mark Felder

Hi all,

We have quite a few BSD VMs on our infrastructure and are having some  
issues with our main webservers. They die randomly -- ESX shows high/100%  
CPU the exact moment it dies (very, very low up until that point), the  
console takes keyboard input but doesn't really do anything or switch VTs,  
and the server is pingable, but does nothing. We have to hard reboot. This  
has been going on for a while and we moved the VMs off our iSCSI SAN and  
onto local storge and it's happening still. (Found a few configuration  
issues with our SAN; thought it was the issue with preferred paths being  
problematic, etc). We really need to contact someone else who has had  
success and find out what's different about their environment.


I'd like to note that we're still on ESX 4.0 (and behind a bit there)  
because our SAN wouldn't support 4.1 until recently and we haven't had  
time to switch.


Personally, I'm convinced this is an ESX issue because BSD never panics  
and there's never anything reported on the console when this happens. I'd  
really like to hear from someone who has been running FreeBSD in  
production on ESX without issues and hopefully they could describe their  
setup so we can begin to compare issues.


A few relavent things to note:

The ones that crash are usually our main webservers (Apache, PHP, no MySQL  
locally though). We have LOTS of IPs on them and they do a ton of network  
traffic, but usually don't have a super high load average (maybe .75 - 1.0  
on a normal day?). Currently we're running 8.1-RELEASE on them.


As I said, they're on local storage right now, but they were on iSCSI to  
Dell MD3000i SANs (booo, hisss, we're dumping them so dont worry)


ESX servers are a mix of Dell and HP

Can't think of many more details.



Thanks everyone.



Mark
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Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-25 Thread Robert Bonomi

 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:38:14 -0500
 From: Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net
 Subject: Re: HAL's demise

 GNOME switched over a year ago, KDE and XFCE finished the transition a 
 couple of months back. Other distros are apparently not even distributing 
 it. What is preventing FBSD from joining the party?


HAL's demise is indefinitely delayed.

Dave Bowman is otherwise occupied.  
And Frank Poole is out of ciruculation.


*GRIN*
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Re: Backtick versus $()

2011-02-25 Thread Chris Rees
On 25 February 2011 18:02, Andres Perera andre...@zoho.com wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 25 February 2011 02:55, Andres Perera andre...@zoho.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 I apologize for the grammaticall brokenness of that sentence.

 maybe you should spam the hundreds of subscribers of this mailing list with
 this line:

 s,grammaticall,grammatical,


 jesus christ, you're such a friggen noob

 Before you criticise another's spelling/grammar, perhaps you could
 learn where the Shift key is.

 wow another misguided puppy

 the keyword here is spamming

 now think about the differences between a crappy php web forum and a
 mailing list

 and how grammar/spelling can be inferred



 it's not just that you're noobs, but completely ungrateful ones


Ungrateful? I really don't follow.

Chris
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Re: Help: Looking to contact someone running FreeBSD on ESX

2011-02-25 Thread Greg Larkin
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Hash: SHA1

On 2/25/11 12:52 PM, Mark Felder wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 We have quite a few BSD VMs on our infrastructure and are having some
 issues with our main webservers. They die randomly -- ESX shows
 high/100% CPU the exact moment it dies (very, very low up until that
 point), the console takes keyboard input but doesn't really do anything
 or switch VTs, and the server is pingable, but does nothing. We have to
 hard reboot. This has been going on for a while and we moved the VMs off
 our iSCSI SAN and onto local storge and it's happening still. (Found a
 few configuration issues with our SAN; thought it was the issue with
 preferred paths being problematic, etc). We really need to contact
 someone else who has had success and find out what's different about
 their environment.
 
 I'd like to note that we're still on ESX 4.0 (and behind a bit there)
 because our SAN wouldn't support 4.1 until recently and we haven't had
 time to switch.
 
 Personally, I'm convinced this is an ESX issue because BSD never panics
 and there's never anything reported on the console when this happens.
 I'd really like to hear from someone who has been running FreeBSD in
 production on ESX without issues and hopefully they could describe their
 setup so we can begin to compare issues.
 
 A few relavent things to note:
 
 The ones that crash are usually our main webservers (Apache, PHP, no
 MySQL locally though). We have LOTS of IPs on them and they do a ton of
 network traffic, but usually don't have a super high load average (maybe
 .75 - 1.0 on a normal day?). Currently we're running 8.1-RELEASE on them.
 
 As I said, they're on local storage right now, but they were on iSCSI to
 Dell MD3000i SANs (booo, hisss, we're dumping them so dont worry)
 
 ESX servers are a mix of Dell and HP
 
 Can't think of many more details.
 
 Thanks everyone.
 
 Mark

Hi Mark,

Are there any relevant messages logged in /var/log/messages prior to the
FreeBSD hard reboot?

I haven't used watchdogd(8) (http://bit.ly/eKHUEN) before, but I wonder
if it would help you by firing some data logging command (-e option) so
you have some information to go on.

Regards,
Greg
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Re: Help: Looking to contact someone running FreeBSD on ESX

2011-02-25 Thread Mark Felder
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:15:29 -0600, Greg Larkin glar...@freebsd.org  
wrote:



I haven't used watchdogd(8) (http://bit.ly/eKHUEN) before, but I wonder
if it would help you by firing some data logging command (-e option) so
you have some information to go on.


That actually looks like a great solution, but I currently cannot  
recompile the kernel to enable SW_WATCHDOG and take those servers down. We  
have identical hardware in a test environment that I can do that on and  
hopefully see if we can get a clone of the problematic VMs to fail there  
with the watchdogd enabled.



Thanks,


Mark
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Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-25 Thread Edwin L. Culp W.
2011/2/25 Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com:

 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:38:14 -0500
 From: Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net
 Subject: Re: HAL's demise

 GNOME switched over a year ago, KDE and XFCE finished the transition a
 couple of months back. Other distros are apparently not even distributing
 it. What is preventing FBSD from joining the party?


 HAL's demise is indefinitely delayed.

 Dave Bowman is otherwise occupied.
 And Frank Poole is out of ciruculation.


 *GRIN*
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It seems  that  xfce4 still expects hal in make config en libexo and
maybe others but I stoped there.

That is probably part of  HAL's demise is indefinitely delayed  So
it appears that there isn't a major window manager that doesn't
require hal, one way or the other.

ed
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Re: Help: Looking to contact someone running FreeBSD on ESX

2011-02-25 Thread Kevin Wilcox
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:52, Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote:

 The ones that crash are usually our main webservers (Apache, PHP, no MySQL
 locally though). We have LOTS of IPs on them and they do a ton of network
 traffic, but usually don't have a super high load average (maybe .75 - 1.0
 on a normal day?). Currently we're running 8.1-RELEASE on them.

Just as a note regarding that load average and ESX.

I've noticed that none of my FreeBSD VMs report a *true* load average
on ESX. The CPU hardly ever spikes (particularly on some snort
listeners) but ESX shows the VMs as being CPU-bound the better part of
the day. You may want to take a look at what the ESX performance
charts are showing during your heavy usage periods and particularly
before things go pear-shaped.

kmw
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freebsd 8.2

2011-02-25 Thread Paul Macdonald


Just a quick applaud for both the people behind 7.4/8.2 and those behind 
freebsd-update which led to a seamless and quick upgrade on many of many 
boxes  earlier.


thanks to everyone involved, good job!

Paul.



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Re: Help: Looking to contact someone running FreeBSD on ESX

2011-02-25 Thread Greg Larkin
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On 2/25/11 3:00 PM, Mark Felder wrote:
 On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:15:29 -0600, Greg Larkin glar...@freebsd.org
 wrote:
 
 I haven't used watchdogd(8) (http://bit.ly/eKHUEN) before, but I wonder
 if it would help you by firing some data logging command (-e option) so
 you have some information to go on.
 
 That actually looks like a great solution, but I currently cannot
 recompile the kernel to enable SW_WATCHDOG and take those servers down.
 We have identical hardware in a test environment that I can do that on
 and hopefully see if we can get a clone of the problematic VMs to fail
 there with the watchdogd enabled.
 
 Thanks,
 Mark

Hi Mark,

That sounds good, and please post any further information so someone
else can help you troubleshoot further.

Here are some other questions for you to ponder:

- - What appears in the Apache access  error logs just before a freeze
occurs?

- - Are you using any unusual Apache config file settings or modules? How
about for PHP?

- - Are all of your installed ports up to date?

- - Have you done any Apache or PHP performance tuning using
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/misc/perf-tuning.html or
http://phplens.com/lens/php-book/optimizing-debugging-php.php as
starting points?

- - Have you enabled a PHP log file to record errors, warnings, etc.
generated by your application code?

Hope that helps,
Greg
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Re: qmail or postfix?

2011-02-25 Thread Andres Perera
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Jarrod Slick jar...@e-sensibility.com wrote:
 Dear Sir/Madam,

 Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending it to.
 For more information on our business please click on the following link:
 Click here for our website
 We look forward to your continued business in the future.

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Re: setting up svn server - Connection refused

2011-02-25 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 09:56:29AM -0800, Rob Farmer wrote:
 
  What could be the problems?
 
 From the rc script (which would probably be better than starting it 
 manually):
 
 # Note:
 # svnserve bind per default at the ipv6 address!
 # If you want svnserve binding at ipv4 address, you have
 # to use option 'svnserve_flags' with --listen-host parameter

Rob, thank you
Anton


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Upgrading 7.1 to 7.3, use 7.2 as a safe step?

2011-02-25 Thread Nerius Landys
For me, time can be spared, but errors should be avoided at all costs.
I have upgraded FreeBSD before, for example 7.0 - 7.1.  I use the
buildworld/buildkernel procedure.
I now have a 7.1 system.  Should I upgrade to 7.2 and then to 7.3, or
is it safe to go directly from 7.1 to 7.3?

- Nerius

P.S. I will also be upgrading 8.0 to 8.2 on another system, and assume
the answer you give can be applied there as well.
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Re: Upgrading 7.1 to 7.3, use 7.2 as a safe step?

2011-02-25 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Nerius Landys wrote:
 For me, time can be spared, but errors should be avoided at all costs.
 I have upgraded FreeBSD before, for example 7.0 - 7.1.  I use the
 buildworld/buildkernel procedure.
 I now have a 7.1 system.  Should I upgrade to 7.2 and then to 7.3, or
 is it safe to go directly from 7.1 to 7.3?

You shouldn't run into any unusual issues.  Note that more care is needed if 
you are doing a major version bump-- ie, you should go to 7.4 - 8.0 - 8.2.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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display resolution on my thinkpad t61

2011-02-25 Thread Alokat

Hi,

I'm trying to modify my screen resolutions (use an external and the 
internal monitor).


xrandr -q says:

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1440 x 960, maximum 2720 x 1024
VGA connected 1440x900+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 
408mm x 255mm

   1440x900   59.9*+   75.0
   1280x1024  75.0 60.0
   1280x960   60.0
   1152x864   75.0
   1024x768   75.0 70.1 66.0 60.0
   832x62474.6
   800x60072.2 75.0 60.3 56.2
   640x48075.0 72.8 66.7 66.0 59.9
   720x40070.1
LVDS connected 1280x960+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 
331mm x 207mm

   1280x1024  85.0 75.0 60.0
   1280x960   85.0*60.0
   1152x864   75.0
   1024x768   85.0 75.0 70.1 60.0
   832x62474.6
   800x60085.1 72.2 75.0 60.3 56.2
   640x48085.0 72.8 75.0 59.9
   720x40085.0
   640x40085.1
   640x35085.1
TMDS-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

1440x900 is enough for the external but the internal can / should use 
1680x1050.

How can I add this to xrandr?

Regards,
alokat
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Re: Upgrading 7.1 to 7.3, use 7.2 as a safe step?

2011-02-25 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On February 25, 2011 1:39:47 PM -0800 Nerius Landys nlan...@gmail.com 
wrote:



For me, time can be spared, but errors should be avoided at all costs.
I have upgraded FreeBSD before, for example 7.0 - 7.1.  I use the
buildworld/buildkernel procedure.
I now have a 7.1 system.  Should I upgrade to 7.2 and then to 7.3, or
is it safe to go directly from 7.1 to 7.3?



I have upgraded several times across major versions without any problems. 
(5.x to 6.x, 6.x to 7.x).  Each time I simply changed the supfile to the 
version I wanted to upgrade to, fetched the files and rebuilt world and 
kernel.  After those are complete, I run a portupgrade -a to sync all the 
ports with the new sources.


Note that this is *not* the way to do it if you absolutely must avoid 
problems, however slight the risk.


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Is CTM still being offered for updating FreeBSD?

2011-02-25 Thread Eitan Adler
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/ctm-src-8/ appears to be empty and
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/ctm-users/2009-December/000226.html
 seems to be the last mention of CTM on any of the related mailing
lists (other than a few people asking if it was down).

So I have a few questions:
1) Is it still being offered and supported as a method of updating
FreeBSD systems?

2) If not can the section in the handbook be removed? I have attached
a patch which removes references to CTM from the handbook. Should it
be applied?

3) Probably the most controversial question - but I'll ask it
nonetheless. If CTM is no longer an option for updating FreeBSD is
there any reason to leave it in base? Is it still being used by a
sufficient number of people to maintain it?


-- 
Eitan Adler


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Re: display resolution on my thinkpad t61

2011-02-25 Thread Alokat

On 02/25/11 22:45, Alokat wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to modify my screen resolutions (use an external and the 
internal monitor).


xrandr -q says:

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1440 x 960, maximum 2720 x 1024
VGA connected 1440x900+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 
408mm x 255mm

   1440x900   59.9*+   75.0
   1280x1024  75.0 60.0
   1280x960   60.0
   1152x864   75.0
   1024x768   75.0 70.1 66.0 60.0
   832x62474.6
   800x60072.2 75.0 60.3 56.2
   640x48075.0 72.8 66.7 66.0 59.9
   720x40070.1
LVDS connected 1280x960+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 
331mm x 207mm

   1280x1024  85.0 75.0 60.0
   1280x960   85.0*60.0
   1152x864   75.0
   1024x768   85.0 75.0 70.1 60.0
   832x62474.6
   800x60085.1 72.2 75.0 60.3 56.2
   640x48085.0 72.8 75.0 59.9
   720x40085.0
   640x40085.1
   640x35085.1
TMDS-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

1440x900 is enough for the external but the internal can / should use 
1680x1050.

How can I add this to xrandr?

Regards,
alokat
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I got it ...
Just started without the external monitor and after that use this command:

 xrandr --output LVDS --primary --output VGA --auto --left-of LVDS

Now the internal monitor is the primary .. contains the Fluxbox menu and 
the external is the secondary.

Just for showing some stuff ...

Regards,
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Re: GELI reliability

2011-02-25 Thread Modulok
 I've used ZFS over GELI in the past, but never had any hardware issues to 
 see how it plays out.

I have no idea on that kind of a setup. If I were you I'd make a test
system, start an scp command to copy some file from another machine,
then start unplugging hard drives. When done, run a diff on the copied
file and the original (or at least a checksum) to see if it worked
out. I'd do it for you and report back, but at the moment I don't have
the hardware to spare.

Let us know how it goes ;-)
-Modulok-

On 2/25/11, Terje Elde te...@elde.net wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm curious about GELIs theoretical behavior when faced with errors, and
 also any experience anyone might have.

 As an example, if I run ZFS with raidz over X drives, then the zpool should
 have no issue surviving the complete loss of a full disk.  Also, the
 familiar FAILURE - READ_DMA or READ_DMA48 errors from a disk having a bad
 day should also be no issue, certainly not an issue that would result in
 crash, or worse still, loss of data.

 What I'm wondering is how much worse off the data would be if I were to
 slide inn a GELI layer between the physical drives, and the zpool.

 That is, if I use GELI directly on the individual drives ( /dev/ada0,
 /dev/ada1 etc), then make a raidz pool on top of the .eli devices (
 /dev/ada0.eli, /dev/ada1.eli etc).

 For READ_DMA type errors, I suppose GELI could just forward the same errors
 up the stack, and that'd be that, the errors wouldn't be any more severe
 than what I'd have anyway?

 One exception could be if GELI sector size is larger than disk sector size.
 Not being too familiar with GELIs internal workings, I'm not sure that has
 to be the case though.  GELI sectors have a new IV pr. sector, but the
 crypto itself is still done in 128 or 256 bit blocks, so given a single
 faulty disk sector, the rest of the GELI sector could still be read and
 decrypted?  Or are entire GELI sectors faulted if a (smaller) underlaying
 sector is unreadable?

 And finally, what if an entire drive dies a cruel and horribly death, all of
 it's data returning to the large bit bucket in the sky?  Would GELI simply
 relay the same errors upstack to ZFS, so ZFS would be able to handle it as
 well as it would have without GELI?


 I've used ZFS over GELI in the past, but never had any hardware issues to
 see how it plays out.

 I'm considering deploying it for more stuff now, and reliability wise, from
 what I know, I could loose very little by using GELI, or it could be time to
 buy napkins, because the risk of a grown man crying while trying to mop up
 spilled bits from the floor is increased significantly.

 (backups should avoid the need for tears though, besides, I don't have a
 mop)

 Terje

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Kernel swap zone exhausted, what is the max allowed? FBSD 7.2

2011-02-25 Thread Mark Terribile

Hi,

I was recently forced to reboot a 7.2 machine after it had run for several 
months.  (Upgrade is not a possibility right now.)  The (apparently) relevant 
part of /var/log/messages reads

 --
Feb 23 13:10:58 gold kernel: pid 9864 (to), uid 1001: exited on signal 6 (core 
dumped)
Feb 23 17:14:13 gold kernel: pid 10386 (epiphany), uid 0: exited on signal 11 
(core dumped)
Feb 23 17:18:19 gold kernel: pid 10414 (epiphany), uid 0: exited on signal 11 
(core dumped)
Feb 24 14:56:05 gold kernel: swap zone exhausted, increase kern.maxswzone
Feb 24 14:56:36 gold last message repeated 1933 times
Feb 24 14:56:57 gold last message repeated 1635 times
Feb 24 14:56:57 gold kernel: swap zone exhausted, nncrxase kern.ma swzone
Feb 24 14:56:57 gold kernel: swap zone exhausted, increase kern.maxswzone
Feb 24 14:57:28 gold last message repeated 1017 times
Feb 24 14:59:29 gold last message repeated 2159 times
Feb 24 15:14:03 gold syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
 ---

I don't explicitly set kern.maxswzone anywhere and it is at its apparent 
maximum and default of 32M (33554432).

Does anyone know if the maximum can be increased?  (What actually is it used 
for?)  I do use lots of memory-intensive processes, most of them idle much of 
the time.  I see that it's involved with the stuff in the src/sys/vm directory. 
 Would someone give me a quick precis or pointer to what I need to study to 
understand what would happen if I tried to boost this to 64M?

Mark Terribile


  
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Re: Is CTM still being offered for updating FreeBSD?

2011-02-25 Thread b. f.
So I have a few questions:
1) Is it still being offered and supported as a method of updating
FreeBSD systems?

As of today, yes -- I have recent deltas in my mailbox.  But you could
easily check by subscribing, and looking at:

http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CTM

where the deltas are still being added every few hours.


2) If not can the section in the handbook be removed? I have attached
a patch which removes references to CTM from the handbook. Should it
be applied?

3) Probably the most controversial question - but I'll ask it
nonetheless. If CTM is no longer an option for updating FreeBSD is
there any reason to leave it in base? Is it still being used by a
sufficient number of people to maintain it?

I can't answer for the maintainer, and I don't have usage statistics,
which you could probably obtain from the mailing list and WWW admins.
But the fact that it works, without requiring a lot of resources or
the need for extensive maintenance, and has the benefits that are
clearly described in the Handbook, suggest that you should leave it
alone.  Why is this question even arising? Surely there are other
problems that need to be addressed much more than the ending of a
useful, uncontroversial service by someone who is not familiar with
it?

b.
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Re: Is CTM still being offered for updating FreeBSD?

2011-02-25 Thread Eitan Adler
  Why is this question even arising? Surely there are other
 problems that need to be addressed much more than the ending of a
 useful, uncontroversial service by someone who is not familiar with
 it?

I am familiar with it. I just happened to notice that the mailing
lists were empty and therefore I thought the service is not being
used.

In case you did not notice the subject was in question form and points
#2 and #3 both had an if not  clause. Your initial response answered
my question: that CTM is still being offered. and therefore the rest
of the email is moot.

Thanks
Eitan Adler
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Re: Help: Looking to contact someone running FreeBSD on ESX

2011-02-25 Thread Dean E. Weimer



On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:09:31 -0500, Greg Larkin wrote:


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On 2/25/11 3:00 PM, Mark Felder wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:15:29 -0600, Greg Larkin
wrote:

I haven't used watchdogd(8) (http://bit.ly/eKHUEN [1]) before, but 
I

wonder
if it would help you by firing some data logging command (-e 
option)

so
you have some information to go on.


That actually looks like a great solution, but I currently cannot
recompile the kernel to enable SW_WATCHDOG and take those servers 
down.
We have identical hardware in a test environment that I can do that 
on
and hopefully see if we can get a clone of the problematic VMs to 
fail

there with the watchdogd enabled.

Thanks,
Mark


Hi Mark,

That sounds good, and please post any further information so someone
else can help you troubleshoot further.

Here are some other questions for you to ponder:

- - What appears in the Apache access  error logs just before a 
freeze

occurs?

- - Are you using any unusual Apache config file settings or modules? 
How

about for PHP?

- - Are all of your installed ports up to date?

- - Have you done any Apache or PHP performance tuning using
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/misc/perf-tuning.html [3] or
http://phplens.com/lens/php-book/optimizing-debugging-php.php [4] as
starting points?

- - Have you enabled a PHP log file to record errors, warnings, etc.
generated by your application code?

Hope that helps,
Greg
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I manage 8 FreeBSD virtual servers at work running 7.0, 7.1, and 7.2 in 
VMware ESX 4.0, they are running Apache2 with PHP, Bind, and Squid, any 
of the services they are running is all installed from source and kept 
up to date, as we are required to pass quarterly PCI scans.  So it 
doesn't speak much of programs installed from ports, but these systems 
stay very stable, the only issue I have is that after about 8 to 9 
months of system uptime (services are restarted more frequently for 
updates) sometimes the network will stop responding until the virtual 
machine is shutdown and powered back on. (I can't say that any of the 
windows servers on the cluster ever reach that length of uptime to 
compare with this)  We have 6 physical servers running with full 
automated vmotion there is about 80 windows servers runnign on the same 
systems.  Backed with an ISCSI SAN and 10G Ethernet adapters.  However 
our internet applications that utilize the FreeBSD servers are 
relatively low usage, squid is mainly used as outbound proxy for around 
600 Computer users which is the highest used resource on these servers, 
primarily between 5am and 7pm, so usage levels may not be near where you 
are running at.
I am running vmware tools installed from a VMware workstation 6.5 tools 
image, I have switched a couple of the systems over to the vmxnet 
drivers instead of running then as e1000 adapters, but haven't been 
running them long enough to see if that resolves are problem.  When it 
does occur the system is completely responsive when connecting to the 
console though, and can be cleanly shutdown.


I haven't noticed any issues with VMwawre performance monitoring 
reporting the systems CPU as hammered when the CPU on FreeBSD shows low, 
but these systems are much more heavily memory used followed by disk I/O 
CPU sits idle at most times.  I should also mention that they are setup 
with 2 vCPUs, perhaps if you are running a signal vCPU something is 
hanging one vCPU and mine setup is recovering OK because the 
applications complete using the other until the issue resolves itself.  
I haven't spent much time looking at historical usage graphs on these 
since I don't get any complaints about performance.


---

Thanks,
 Dean E. Weimer
 dwei...@dweimer.net
 http://www.dweimer.net/
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Re: How can I disable Internet access for programs running in Wine?

2011-02-25 Thread Peter Vereshagin
Nothing to do oh, freebsd-questions stay in bat!
2011/02/25 01:07:58 -0800 erikmccaskey64 erikmccaske...@zoho.com = To 
freebsd :
e I just can find any solution...

I was sure that ipfw can select packets by process name? at least there are pf 
and ipf options out there...
You can always use jail(4) in conjunction with the separate IP address, like 
tap(4) or lo(4) whic can be aliased.
Then you can provide any kind of internet access for your wine-drunk jail 
environment ;-)
Oh, and... you can use the / as a root for your jail. You need to restrict the 
access of the application(s) to your internet interface(s) only, right?

73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB  12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627)
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Re: Kernel swap zone exhausted, what is the max allowed? FBSD 7.2

2011-02-25 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Mark Terribile materrib...@yahoo.comwrote:

 I don't explicitly set kern.maxswzone anywhere and it is at its apparent
 maximum and default of 32M (33554432).

 Does anyone know if the maximum can be increased?  (What actually is it
 used for?)  I do use lots of memory-intensive processes, most of them idle
 much of the time.  I see that it's involved with the stuff in the src/sys/vm
 directory.  Would someone give me a quick precis or pointer to what I need
 to study to understand what would happen if I tried to boost this to 64M?


Well

vbox% sysctl -ad kern.maxswzone
kern.maxswzone: Maximum memory for swap metadata

man 8 loader gives:
 kern.maxswzone
   Limits the amount of KVM to be used to hold swap meta
   information, which directly governs the maximum amount of
   swap the system can support.  This value is specified in
   bytes of KVA space and defaults to 32MBytes on i386 and
   amd64.  Care should be taken to not reduce this value
such
   that the actual amount of configured swap exceeds 1/2 the
   kernel-supported swap.  The default of 32MB allows the
ker-
   nel to support a maximum of ~7GB of swap.  Only change
this
   parameter if you need to greatly extend the KVM
reservation
   for other resources such as the buffer cache or
   kern.ipc.nmbclusters.  Modifies kernel option
   VM_SWZONE_SIZE_MAX.



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Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:32:48 -0600 (CST), Robert Bonomi 
bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
 
  Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:38:14 -0500
  From: Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net
  Subject: Re: HAL's demise
 
  GNOME switched over a year ago, KDE and XFCE finished the transition a 
  couple of months back. Other distros are apparently not even distributing 
  it. What is preventing FBSD from joining the party?
 
 
 HAL's demise is indefinitely delayed.
 
 Dave Bowman is otherwise occupied.  
 And Frank Poole is out of ciruculation.
 
 
 *GRIN*

On the other hand, I've just talked to R. Chandra
and he assured that SAL is already taking over the
neccessary functionalities, being scheduled for
obsolescence within the next two years. So don't
hesitate to put sal_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf.
It will at least coredump in a pleasant voice. :-)




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Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:10:33 -0600, Edwin L. Culp W. edwinlc...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 So
 it appears that there isn't a major window manager that doesn't
 require hal, one way or the other.

To be precise: There isn't a major DESKTOP ENVIRONMENT (as
there are just the big three KDE, Gnome, Xfce - that
doesn't require HAL. Window managers usually do not require
HAL, until they are equipped with auxilliary programs that
depend on it (kinds of notifiers and automatic hardware
handlers, automounters), or it's X depending on it (which
can be removed at compile time if you don't need it).

The basic thing I don't get is why - in the neverending
world of abstracted abstraction layers - there is no
universal interface for what various contradicting
implementations do exist: the new u* components and
the old devfs/devd combination in FreeBSD. Basically,
from a user's point, those functionalities are used
for hardware detection and immediate reaction of the
system (not always wanted, intended, or even allowed
due to security reasons), such as digital camera
downloads, burning media, or any kind of automounter,
as well as communication device configuration.

Can't it be easier, or can't we suddenly do better
than Windows? I know we could in the past...



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Re: display resolution on my thinkpad t61

2011-02-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:41:05 +0100, Alokat mail...@alokat.org wrote:
 On 02/25/11 22:45, Alokat wrote:
  1440x900 is enough for the external but the internal can / should use 
  1680x1050.
  How can I add this to xrandr?
 I got it ...
 Just started without the external monitor and after that use this command:
 
   xrandr --output LVDS --primary --output VGA --auto --left-of LVDS
 
 Now the internal monitor is the primary .. contains the Fluxbox menu and 
 the external is the secondary.

You can also use xrandr to force settings that are not
present in xorg.conf or cannot be configured properly:

xrandr --fb 1680x1050
xrandr --size 1680x1050

I'm using this hack to convince X to run my monitor
at 1400x1050 which it doesn't seem to be able to anymore
(unlike XFree86 - same system, GPU, and monitor).


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