About using setenv within Login.conf, then interpolate
Hi, I am using the following /etc/login.conf cap-file, that defines the french class as an interpolate from default: --- --- default:\ :passwd_format=md5:\ :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ :welcome=/etc/motd:\ :setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$\ ,BLOCKSIZE=K\ ,FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES\ [...etc.] french|Utilisateurs francophones:\ :charset=ISO-8859-15:\ :setenv=LC_COLLATE=fr_FR.ISO8859-15\ ,LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.ISO8859-15\ ,LC_MESSAGES=fr_FR.ISO8859-15\ ,LC_MONETARY=fr_FR.ISO8859-15\ ,LC_NUMERIC=fr_FR.ISO8859-15\ ,LC_TIME=fr_FR.ISO8859-15\ ,LC_ALL=fr_FR.ISO8859-15:\ :lang=fr_FR.ISO8859-15:\ :tc=default: --- --- But, the setenv tags that are defined for default are not set for french user: david:~pw showuser $user david:*:1001:0:french:0:0:David Marec:/home/david:/bin/tcsh david:~setenv | egrep -i \(mail\|ftp\) david:~su -l Password: root:~#pw showuser $user root:*:0:0::0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh root:~#setenv | egrep -i \(mail\|ftp\) FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES MAIL=/var/mail/root What that i missed ? -- Cordialement, -- David Marec: http://user.lamaiziere.net/david/Site/ http://www.freebsd.org/fr/ http://www.diablotins.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tinderbox question...
On 2 April 2011 09:26, Ivan Klymenko fi...@ukr.net wrote: Hi, folks! For example, i built in my tinderbox port audio/clementine-player... It depends on qt4 -* ports... For example, the file qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.7.2.tar.gz must be downloaded (if not mistaken) for more than five times! Why? File size ~208655K = 5*208655K=1043275K !!! When building ports with these files it is extremely slow and not optimal. Is it possible to transfer the function cleandistfiles to another place, that would be cleaning distfiles directory took place after the construction of the entire queue, or do it manually? What do you think about this? Thank you! Best regards, Ivan. Distfiles aren't cached by default. http://tinderbox.marcuscom.com/README/README.html#AEN587 Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tinderbox question...
В Sat, 2 Apr 2011 09:28:58 +0100 Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com пишет: On 2 April 2011 09:26, Ivan Klymenko fi...@ukr.net wrote: Hi, folks! For example, i built in my tinderbox port audio/clementine-player... It depends on qt4 -* ports... For example, the file qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.7.2.tar.gz must be downloaded (if not mistaken) for more than five times! Why? File size ~208655K = 5*208655K=1043275K !!! When building ports with these files it is extremely slow and not optimal. Is it possible to transfer the function cleandistfiles to another place, that would be cleaning distfiles directory took place after the construction of the entire queue, or do it manually? What do you think about this? Thank you! Best regards, Ivan. Distfiles aren't cached by default. http://tinderbox.marcuscom.com/README/README.html#AEN587 Chris Thanks! Sorry for noice. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Tinderbox question...
Hi, folks! For example, i built in my tinderbox port audio/clementine-player... It depends on qt4 -* ports... For example, the file qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.7.2.tar.gz must be downloaded (if not mistaken) for more than five times! Why? File size ~208655K = 5*208655K=1043275K !!! When building ports with these files it is extremely slow and not optimal. Is it possible to transfer the function cleandistfiles to another place, that would be cleaning distfiles directory took place after the construction of the entire queue, or do it manually? What do you think about this? Thank you! Best regards, Ivan. P.S. Sorry for my english. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Port dependencies
On 2 April 2011 00:58, Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org wrote: Just in a thoughtful mood and thought I'd to the question to the cloud. One of my biggest gripes with the ports system is dependency hell. I think you've misunderstood the term dependency hell [1]. Anyone who has spent hours struggling with rpm (ugh, or worse CMMI) to get x application installed which depends on y from z.alpha.com and s from t.beta.com, which also need rpm-ing with their own dependencies would never dare to even think of such terms when using the Ports Collection. I found it a miracle when I first moved! Chris [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_hell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: About using setenv within Login.conf, then interpolate
On 02/04/2011 09:04, David Marec wrote: I am using the following /etc/login.conf cap-file, that defines the french class as an interpolate from default: --- --- default:\ :passwd_format=md5:\ :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ :welcome=/etc/motd:\ :setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$\ ,BLOCKSIZE=K\ ,FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES\ [...etc.] french|Utilisateurs francophones:\ :charset=ISO-8859-15:\ :setenv=LC_COLLATE=fr_FR.ISO8859-15\ ,LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.ISO8859-15\ ,LC_MESSAGES=fr_FR.ISO8859-15\ ,LC_MONETARY=fr_FR.ISO8859-15\ ,LC_NUMERIC=fr_FR.ISO8859-15\ ,LC_TIME=fr_FR.ISO8859-15\ ,LC_ALL=fr_FR.ISO8859-15:\ :lang=fr_FR.ISO8859-15:\ :tc=default: --- --- But, the setenv tags that are defined for default are not set for french user: Uh -- the setenv entry in your french class replaces the capability from the default class. You get one or the other, not both. This is consistent with what would happen with any of the other capabilities. I don't think there is a way to refer to a capability setting from a parent class in the way you want. You're just going to have to cut'n'paste the text into your new class. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Port dependencies
On 2-4-2011 2:51, Polytropon wrote: So there is still stuff one needs to compile, and YOU are in charge to define the options you need. This is the downside when you're running a multi- purpose OS like FreeBSD. That is a good thing. But I remember an issue that I never understood. I onced set up a system as a mail and webserver and used packages for this. Fast and easy I thought and good enough. But although lamp/famp/samp is very common I could not install apache WITH php support. Why? Because php has no support for apache compiled in the precompiled package (it might have been the other way around; not quite sure). Anyway, apache+php could not be installed from packages. I had to compile them from ports. I hated that and could not understand why a so common setting is not on by default. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mount a dumpfile
On 2 Apr 2011 00:08, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Is it possible to mount a dump(8) dumpfile? restore(8) obviously knows everything about the file structure, and restore -i is nearly a read-only mount_dump already. Restore -i isn't really anything like a mount; it works on a stream (which is why it works on tapes and stdin) where the first but is the file list, telling restore how far to skip to get the file. This is why ls is fast on it, but when you tell it to restore it then takes a little time. If you want proper interactive backups, I'd respectfully suggest you start using rsync incremental backup, for which I have a script sy home I'd you're interested. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tinderbox question...
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 09:28:58 +0100 Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 April 2011 09:26, Ivan Klymenko fi...@ukr.net wrote: Hi, folks! For example, i built in my tinderbox port audio/clementine-player... It depends on qt4 -* ports... For example, the file qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.7.2.tar.gz must be downloaded (if not mistaken) for more than five times! Why? File size ~208655K = 5*208655K=1043275K !!! When building ports with these files it is extremely slow and not optimal. As Cris sais, setup DISTFILES caching per README. Is it possible to transfer the function cleandistfiles to another place, that would be cleaning distfiles directory took place after the construction of the entire queue, or do it manually? There isn't done any distfile cleaning as such. For each port build, a chroot is created and populated, then cleaned at the end. For small ports, this takes more that the actual port build; but no, we can't do without it if we are to have an 100% reproducible build env. -- IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD user Intellectual Property is nowhere near as valuable as Intellect FreeBSD committer - ite...@freebsd.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Port dependencies
Chris Telting wrote: See above. What I want to see is minimal installs with all features being usable once you install the optional components. And run time detection for programs shouldn't be all that difficult or computation intensive. The program would just consult pkg_info or another similar but faster database (and maybe somewhat platform independent) of what's installed on the system. It's not a minimal install if binaries are bloated with extra code to selectively enable _all_ functionality depending upon run-time configuration options and dependency detection, rather than just the functionality that is going to be used. And build times would be longer, usually much longer, because all functionality in the software and all possible dependencies would have be built. And of course a lot of software would have to be rewritten. And I think that the added overhead would not always be negligible. So while your idea has certain advantages, it also has disadvantages. It does not seem practical to implement it, even if it were desirable to do so, for most software at the present time. b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
graphical representation of `du`
I found this command: ls -R | grep :$ | sed -e 's/:$//' -e 's/[^-][^\/]*\//--/g' -e 's/^/ /' -e 's/-/|/' Which makes this: |-Mar17 |---1300074369-chow |-download |---small |---1300421616-Cunningham |-download |---small But I want to use `du` instead to convert this 2.0M./Mar17/1300074369-chow/download/small 2.0M./Mar17/1300074369-chow/download 2.0M./Mar17/1300074369-chow 2.1M./Mar17/1300421616-Cunningham/download/small 2.1M./Mar17/1300421616-Cunningham/download 2.1M./Mar17/1300421616-Cunningham 4.1M./Mar17 into this: |-Mar17 [4.3M] |---1300074369-chow [2.0M] |-download [2.0M] |---small [2.0M] |---1300421616-Cunningham [2.1M] |-download [2.1M] |---small [2.1M] I realize it does it backwards and I can live with that... OR mix the two to run the first command and run another command to get the folders total size or something... you know? Thanks for the help, Ryan___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD' Webcam and DVB Compatibility List
In article 20110331112119.ga21...@sh4-5.1blu.de you write: Hello, Hi! We have started a small documentation project in the FreeBSD Wiki: The FreeBSD' Webcam and DVB Compatibility List. http://wiki.freebsd.org/WebcamCompat The main goal of this page is to give an exact answer about which application works with a given cam or DVB. Combinations of the hardware and software mentioned below in the table are known to work. Please add more lines to the table or ask me to do so by just sending a mail with your Cam/DVB information. Please note: you should only add information you have seen working and not you may think of or imagine that they could work. The contact information (name and/or email addr) is optional. If you want me to add your webcam or DVB, please send me a structured ASCII line of the following format: Cam or DVB type (USB, build-in);Manufactor;Product Name;VendorID:ProductID (hex);Driver or kernel module;V4L/V4L2;min. tested OS version(s);Supported application(s);Additional comments;Contact i.e. -- use ';' as separator of the fields -- fill out all fields (if you don't know the value use 'unknown') -- also use 'unknown' for the field Contact if you don't want your name or mail in the row -- you may send it as one line (as shown above) or wraped lines after any ';' Please use the above format and no HTML (HTML will be silently ignored). As well, please send it to me and not to the list. Any hints, comments or questions are welcomed, of course. I have added a few dvb tuners that I tested, and I have also added a Remote Control section and added my mceusb device that I tested with lirc, vdr, and xbmc. Hope that's okay... :) Cheers, Juergen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mount a dumpfile
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011, Chris Rees wrote: On 2 Apr 2011 00:08, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Is it possible to mount a dump(8) dumpfile? restore(8) obviously knows everything about the file structure, and restore -i is nearly a read-only mount_dump already. Restore -i isn't really anything like a mount; it works on a stream (which is why it works on tapes and stdin) where the first but is the file list, telling restore how far to skip to get the file. This is why ls is fast on it, but when you tell it to restore it then takes a little time. Sorry, I didn't explain very well. Use mdconfig to create a device backed by a dumpfile. Then factor out the code from restore to treat that layout as a filesystem. Conceptually, it'd be similar to mount_cd9660. Which is another way to ask the question: does anything besides restore(8) understand the dumpfile format? libarchive does not, unfortunately. If you want proper interactive backups, I'd respectfully suggest you start using rsync incremental backup, for which I have a script sy home I'd you're interested. It's malus versus citrus, but it's always interesting to see alternate approaches.___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: graphical representation of `du`
On 2 April 2011 15:20, Ryan Coleman edi...@d3photography.com wrote:
I found this command:
ls -R | grep :$ | sed -e 's/:$//' -e 's/[^-][^\/]*\//--/g' -e 's/^/ /' -e
's/-/|/'
Which makes this:
|-Mar17
|---1300074369-chow
|-download
|---small
|---1300421616-Cunningham
|-download
|---small
But I want to use `du` instead to convert this
2.0M ./Mar17/1300074369-chow/download/small
2.0M ./Mar17/1300074369-chow/download
2.0M ./Mar17/1300074369-chow
2.1M ./Mar17/1300421616-Cunningham/download/small
2.1M ./Mar17/1300421616-Cunningham/download
2.1M ./Mar17/1300421616-Cunningham
4.1M ./Mar17
into this:
|-Mar17 [4.3M]
|---1300074369-chow [2.0M]
|-download [2.0M]
|---small [2.0M]
|---1300421616-Cunningham [2.1M]
|-download [2.1M]
|---small [2.1M]
I realize it does it backwards and I can live with that... OR mix the two to
run the first command and run another command to get the folders total size
or something... you know?
du -h . | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' |
awk '{print($2 [$1]);}' | sed -e 's,[^-][^/]*/,--,g' -e 's,^,|,'
Does it forwards :P
[crees@zeus]~/workspace/ports% du -h . | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for
(j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' | awk '{print($2 [$1]);}' | sed -e
's,[^-][^/]*/,--,g' -e 's,^,|,'
|. [445K]
|--net-mgmt [81K]
|CVS [5.5K]
|zabbix-server [74K]
|--files [11K]
|CVS [4.5K]
|--CVS [4.5K]
... etc...
|--net [31K]
|pppoa [24K]
|--CVS [4.5K]
|--files [12K]
|CVS [4.5K]
|CVS [5.5K]
[crees@zeus]~/workspace/ports%
Any refinements requested I'll have a look at.
Chris
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Re: Port dependencies
Matt == Matt Emmerton m...@gsicomp.on.ca writes: Matt Every time I see a webserver with X11 on it, it's because of these two. Of Matt course, using ghostscript*-nox11 as well as setting WITHOUT_X11=yes solves a Matt lot of this mess, but on a system that's already been infested, it's Matt easier just to rebuild from scratch. That's one of the first things I do with a fresh system that will be only a server: echo WITHOUT_X11=yes /etc/make.conf And then *never* use packages. Only ports. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: graphical representation of `du`
On 2 April 2011 18:07, Mike Jeays mike.je...@rogers.com wrote:
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:15:04 +0100
Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
du -h . | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' |
awk '{print($2 [$1]);}' | sed -e 's,[^-][^/]*/,--,g' -e 's,^,|,'
I confess to being impressed...
Yeah, but perhaps I should have used sed instead of the second awk;
fewer processes:
du -h | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' | sed
-e 's,^[^1-9]*\([^___CTRL-V+TAB__]*\)CTRL-V+TAB_*\(.*\)$,\2
\[\1\],;s,[^-][^/]*/,--,g;s,^,|,'
That does exactly the same -- where I've put CTRL-V+TAB__ you
have to type Ctrl-V, then a literal [::tab::] key; BSD sed doesn't do
\t.
Chris
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Re: graphical representation of `du`
On 2 April 2011 18:22, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 April 2011 18:07, Mike Jeays mike.je...@rogers.com wrote:
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:15:04 +0100
Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
du -h . | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' |
awk '{print($2 [$1]);}' | sed -e 's,[^-][^/]*/,--,g' -e 's,^,|,'
I confess to being impressed...
Yeah, but perhaps I should have used sed instead of the second awk;
fewer processes:
du -h | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' | sed
-e 's,^[^1-9]*\([^___CTRL-V+TAB__]*\)CTRL-V+TAB_*\(.*\)$,\2
\[\1\],;s,[^-][^/]*/,--,g;s,^,|,'
That does exactly the same -- where I've put CTRL-V+TAB__ you
have to type Ctrl-V, then a literal [::tab::] key; BSD sed doesn't do
\t.
Chris
Final version:
http://www.bayofrum.net/~crees/graphical_du.sh
Maybe I should port it...
Chris
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Re: graphical representation of `du`
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:15:04 +0100
Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
du -h . | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' |
awk '{print($2 [$1]);}' | sed -e 's,[^-][^/]*/,--,g' -e 's,^,|,'
I confess to being impressed...
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Re: graphical representation of `du`
Wow... You rock!
Thanks so much!
On Apr 2, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Chris Rees wrote:
On 2 April 2011 18:22, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 April 2011 18:07, Mike Jeays mike.je...@rogers.com wrote:
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:15:04 +0100
Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
du -h . | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' |
awk '{print($2 [$1]);}' | sed -e 's,[^-][^/]*/,--,g' -e 's,^,|,'
I confess to being impressed...
Yeah, but perhaps I should have used sed instead of the second awk;
fewer processes:
du -h | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' | sed
-e 's,^[^1-9]*\([^___CTRL-V+TAB__]*\)CTRL-V+TAB_*\(.*\)$,\2
\[\1\],;s,[^-][^/]*/,--,g;s,^,|,'
That does exactly the same -- where I've put CTRL-V+TAB__ you
have to type Ctrl-V, then a literal [::tab::] key; BSD sed doesn't do
\t.
Chris
Final version:
http://www.bayofrum.net/~crees/graphical_du.sh
Maybe I should port it...
Chris
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Re: Port dependencies
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 21:36:55 -0700, Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org wrote: On 04/01/2011 17:51, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:58:04 -0700, Chris Teltingchristopher...@telting.org wrote: Just in a thoughtful mood and thought I'd to the question to the cloud. Oh the joy of cloud computing, erm... discussion. :-) Wasn't that the a subplot of the hitch hikers guide? That the sum of human consciousness is just a cloud computer? New term, old idea. Basically, yes. The computer IS a(nother) world. What I'm saying I'd like to see is minimal installs. If you need a feature like for instance LDAP or SQL then you need to install that port. Need another feature? Install yet another port. I would like that, too - modularity on the basis of precompiled packages. The problem would be the integration of features on runtime base, as you correctly mentioned. Metaports or metapackages could be used to define common configurations, e. g. mplayer + mencoder with OSD fonts and all the codecs or OpenOffice with german localization, no KDE, no Gnome, no CUPS, but with dictionaries. That would be very nice to have. The program should detect that new programs/libraries are available or at a minimum enable them though uncommenting a line in a conf file. I would say config file (maybe with good defaults) would be a good approach. I'm somewhat suspicious about all the autodetect magic, because in worst case, it just doesn't work, or is unpredictable. And that's the mess I don't like. It's like the six degrees of separation rule. Installing one application sometimes means installing 100 other ports/packages with features the average user has no need or interest in yet. I'm just saying we should have to need to install/compile all those packages when we don't need them and we should have to need to recompile ports just to add a new capability. The difference is we need vs. the program needs. Some requirements are obvious (e. g. a Gtk program needs Gtk libraries), but others are debatable (e. g. the Gtk File Open... dialog defaults to incorporating SAMBA libraries, but if you're not going to use that, _you_ will have no use for them). Well I decided I wanted to try to setup pulseaudio as a network sound server on a headless computer and it pulled in X. Yes, that's a good example. Others have already mentioned that certain typical server functionality also may incorporate X or at least some of its components - on a server that doesn't have a GPU and run any X functionality. Sure I could recompile just for that one computer. But that isn't elegant. The storage space doesn't matter. It's just the most used argument. :-) What annoys me is the installation time and the longer compile time as well as to some extent downing time. Well, that's worth mentioning, but the reply would be: You have two systems in parallel, while one installs, the other one runs. :-) But I see your point. The point would be that the programs wouldn't have those features enabled by default, you have to configure them or the program can auto-detect. So THAT would be understandable - config file is often better, or maybe a hierarchical desision: if config file is present, use it; if not, try to autodetect. If it worked like like would like then you wouldn't be able to play those files unless you downloaded another package or compiled the ports for the mp3 library. Same as it works on windows. Don't have a codec.. then you need to install one... As I mentioned above, a typical use or full-featured metaport or metapackage would be good; just imagine you could pkg_add -r mplayer-full and it would install ALL the codecs, as well as the mencoder part, without any further questions or interactions. On the other hand, the simple default port would install with minimal requirements (in regards to dependencies), which could also be very useful in certain cases, especially when the government wants it that way. :-) See above. What I want to see is minimal installs with all features being usable once you install the optional components. And run time detection for programs shouldn't be all that difficult or computation intensive. The program would just consult pkg_info or another similar but faster database (and maybe somewhat platform independent) of what's installed on the system. Understood and seconded: It sounds like an interesting approach. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
am i back up....???
my telco modem [[was BRAND NEW in feb]] failed last tuesday.letsee if this gets out -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic Coming soon to http://transfinite.thought.org: On_Suicide ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: am i back up....???
On 2 April 2011 21:14, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: my telco modem [[was BRAND NEW in feb]] failed last tuesday. letsee if this gets out You could have just sent yourself an email. But yes, here you are. David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
remaining goal.. .
excuse the lowercase but my shoulder really is damaged beyond repair. --last tuesday my new modem =quit= and my even newer wheelchair motor [right wheel] =quit=. --i'll spare the details about getting a tech here because it would fill at least 5 pages. dunno when the shop will get me a loaner; at least 12 da for the new motor. [[the modem is from china; no idea about the motor. but you can guess my opinion of such manufacturers]] okay: last november i had trouble getting my dns to work upon reboot. the msg was only to stdout and mumbled something about how /etc/namedb/named.conf could not be found. i am using scripts i cobbled together to even be able to ping anyone. essentially kill -9 the old named pid; and another to run a new instantiation of named. i've got ==everything== on my ups. display, modem, three servers. so it will be months++ before i have to reboot. ---well unless the big-one hits seattle i just upgraded my 7.3 i386 last october. if i upgrade to 7.4 should this named fault go away. i pretty much do leave my server alone, but it is time get on the stick. i'm sure that i bragged about all the ways i've dived into saving energy. reducing my carbon footprint. my one remaining 1998 hp kayak that sucks 100+ watts/hour can be replaced by the dedicated processor and 1.0gig of memory. this kit draw 4watt/hour. i have zero knowledge about howto replace the kayak with this kit ... but since it is my last energy-saving goal, i'm willing to pay whatever it costs somebody in the metro seattle area to do it. i do have some kind of .xml file to upgrade the configuration. given that, i figure my computers should hum along until solid state drives are worth buying. 3, 5 years... i asked the seattle group of linux users if somebody could help me transfer pfsense from computer to this kit; they pointed out that pfsense was a bsd invention tia, for any help. -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic Coming soon to http://transfinite.thought.org: On_Suicide ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: remaining goal.. .
On 2 April 2011 22:43, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: i asked the seattle group of linux users if somebody could help me transfer pfsense from computer to this kit; they pointed out that pfsense was a bsd invention Given your heart-felt woe is me crap, I can't separate the wheat from the chaff, so what is your problem? David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: graphical representation of `du`
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 06:30:15PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
On 2 April 2011 18:22, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 April 2011 18:07, Mike Jeays mike.je...@rogers.com wrote:
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:15:04 +0100
Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
du -h . | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' |
awk '{print($2 [$1]);}' | sed -e 's,[^-][^/]*/,--,g' -e 's,^,|,'
I confess to being impressed...
Yeah, but perhaps I should have used sed instead of the second awk;
fewer processes:
du -h | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' | sed
-e 's,^[^1-9]*\([^___CTRL-V+TAB__]*\)CTRL-V+TAB_*\(.*\)$,\2
\[\1\],;s,[^-][^/]*/,--,g;s,^,|,'
That does exactly the same -- where I've put CTRL-V+TAB__ you
have to type Ctrl-V, then a literal [::tab::] key; BSD sed doesn't do
\t.
Chris
Final version:
http://www.bayofrum.net/~crees/graphical_du.sh
Maybe I should port it...
Chris
PULeesese DO port that . [!!]
gary
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Re: am i back up....???
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 09:54:52PM +0100, David Chanters wrote: On 2 April 2011 21:14, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: my telco modem [[was BRAND NEW in feb]] failed last tuesday. letsee if this gets out You could have just sent yourself an email. But yes, here you are. David well, mail to kline would get back i wasn't sure about mail to kline at thought.org, but i suppose that does go over the wire and back. tx. g -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic Coming soon to http://transfinite.thought.org: On_Suicide ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: graphical representation of `du`
Hi On 2 April 2011 15:20, Ryan Coleman edi...@d3photography.com wrote: I found this command: ls -R | grep :$ | sed -e 's/:$//' -e 's/[^-][^\/]*\//--/g' -e 's/^/ /' -e 's/-/|/' What about xdu? http://sd.wareonearth.com/~phil/xdu/ David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: remaining goal.. .
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 11:35:45PM +0100, David Chanters wrote: On 2 April 2011 22:43, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: i asked the seattle group of linux users if somebody could help me transfer pfsense from computer to this kit; they pointed out that pfsense was a bsd invention Given your heart-felt woe is me crap, I can't separate the wheat from the chaff, so what is your problem? David simply that i'm looking for somebody who know how to transfer pfsense from a standalone system to this kit. gary ps: i had a few kayaks; one was my server for over 5 years. it was faulting as i transfered stuff to my '09 dell.like to xtransfer the firewall before the disk melts. -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic Coming soon to http://transfinite.thought.org: On_Suicide ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Port dependencies
Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 April 2011 00:58, Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org wrote: One of my biggest gripes with the ports system is dependency hell. I think you've misunderstood the term dependency hell [1]. Anyone who has spent hours struggling with rpm ... would never dare to even think of such terms when using the Ports Collection. Dependency purgatory? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: graphical representation of `du`
Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I should port it... +1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: am i back up....???
Get a Gmail account. On Apr 2, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 09:54:52PM +0100, David Chanters wrote: On 2 April 2011 21:14, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: my telco modem [[was BRAND NEW in feb]] failed last tuesday.letsee if this gets out You could have just sent yourself an email. But yes, here you are. David well, mail to kline would get back i wasn't sure about mail to kline at thought.org, but i suppose that does go over the wire and back. tx. g -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic Coming soon to http://transfinite.thought.org: On_Suicide ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: graphical representation of `du`
Well, it looks like it's written for X, which I don't run on any of my servers. Thanks, though. On Apr 2, 2011, at 6:50 PM, David Chanters wrote: Hi On 2 April 2011 15:20, Ryan Coleman edi...@d3photography.com wrote: I found this command: ls -R | grep :$ | sed -e 's/:$//' -e 's/[^-][^\/]*\//--/g' -e 's/^/ /' -e 's/-/|/' What about xdu? http://sd.wareonearth.com/~phil/xdu/ David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Port dependencies
On Apr 2, 2011, at 7:07 PM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 April 2011 00:58, Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org wrote: One of my biggest gripes with the ports system is dependency hell. I think you've misunderstood the term dependency hell [1]. Anyone who has spent hours struggling with rpm ... would never dare to even think of such terms when using the Ports Collection. Dependency purgatory? Dantency Inferno. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: graphical representation of `du`
On 3 April 2011 01:30, Ryan Coleman edi...@d3photography.com wrote: Well, it looks like it's written for X, which I don't run on any of my servers. Moan, moan, moan. It solves your problem though. David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: am i back up....???
On 3 April 2011 00:46, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 09:54:52PM +0100, David Chanters wrote: On 2 April 2011 21:14, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: my telco modem [[was BRAND NEW in feb]] failed last tuesday. letsee if this gets out You could have just sent yourself an email. But yes, here you are. David well, mail to kline would get back i wasn't sure about mail to kline at thought.org, but i suppose that does go over the wire and back. tx. Yes -- welcome to the 21st century, a la gmail. David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: graphical representation of `du`
Yeah I don't run these computers to be desktops :) On Apr 2, 2011, at 8:05 PM, David Chanters wrote: On 3 April 2011 01:30, Ryan Coleman edi...@d3photography.com wrote: Well, it looks like it's written for X, which I don't run on any of my servers. Moan, moan, moan. It solves your problem though. David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Problems with make buildkernel
Hello! Anybody care to have a look? http://pastie.org/1748851 Many thanks! Tony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: graphical representation of `du`
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 08:07:43PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: Yeah I don't run these computers to be desktops :) exactly. i Do have x11 and ctwm just to get two xterms. but prefer the console. --besides, xdu takes too long. On Apr 2, 2011, at 8:05 PM, David Chanters wrote: On 3 April 2011 01:30, Ryan Coleman edi...@d3photography.com wrote: Well, it looks like it's written for X, which I don't run on any of my servers. Moan, moan, moan. It solves your problem though. David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: graphical representation of `du`
On 3 April 2011 02:25, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 08:07:43PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: Yeah I don't run these computers to be desktops :) exactly. i Do have x11 and ctwm just to get two xterms. but prefer the console. --besides, xdu takes too long. Double moan-bullshit. David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: am i back up....???
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 07:29:23PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: Get a Gmail account. i tried about a year ago: gdk98188; now i cannot get in. something is hosed ... On Apr 2, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 09:54:52PM +0100, David Chanters wrote: On 2 April 2011 21:14, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: my telco modem [[was BRAND NEW in feb]] failed last tuesday.letsee if this gets out You could have just sent yourself an email. But yes, here you are. David well, mail to kline would get back i wasn't sure about mail to kline at thought.org, but i suppose that does go over the wire and back. tx. g -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic Coming soon to http://transfinite.thought.org: On_Suicide ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: am i back up....???
On Apr 2, 2011, at 8:30 PM, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 07:29:23PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: Get a Gmail account. i tried about a year ago: gdk98188; now i cannot get in. something is hosed ... They're free, make a new one. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Port dependencies
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 07:45:06PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: On Apr 2, 2011, at 7:07 PM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 April 2011 00:58, Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org wrote: One of my biggest gripes with the ports system is dependency hell. I think you've misunderstood the term dependency hell [1]. Anyone who has spent hours struggling with rpm ... would never dare to even think of such terms when using the Ports Collection. Dependency purgatory? Dantency Inferno. :) seriously, this is why i want that debian+freebsd that was discussed recently. the kernel is ours and number one in the world. and the ports stuff is basically packages that more/less just-work. you can get the src =with= the pkg. . ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: am i back up....???
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 18:30:59 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 07:29:23PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: Get a Gmail account. i tried about a year ago: gdk98188; now i cannot get in. something is hosed ... In worst case, use a normal mail account - either provided by your own server or by someone you trust, so google is out of scope. :-) Using POP/SMTP/IMAP always gives you the required ability to use the interface of choice, e. g. a standalone MUA that is accessible, and no requirement to do such stuff via the web, using the inconvenience and shortcomings of a web browser. I can only speak for myself regarding this suggestion, and I may also admit that I'm not fully happy with it. I would like to run my own mail server, but corrently I'm using the one for POP of the provider of my domain. I avoid SMTP as sending mail from my system (that runs a MTA) is considered NORMAL by me. Sadly, most others who suffer from spam do not think so, they reject messages coming from behind a dynamic IP, so I use my ISP's relay as smarthost for sending messages. This way, I can still use ANY mail client program I want - I get the messages using fetchmail and can then process them with any program, even in parallel. For sending, I can even | mail -s bla b...@foo.bar from the command line. It may not be optimal for all imaginable scenarios (e. g. reading mail from a different system, sending from a different location), but as I do not require them, it's no big deal. Gary, whenever you have the chance to run you own mail system - DO IT. You have enough knowledge to keep this kind of stuff running, and it gives you more flexibility than anything else. For example, you could install an IMAP interface for mail stored on the server, so you can access it by any IMAP capable client you want, and you could even install a web mail client (e. g. roundcube) to bind to that IMAP inter- face. In my opinion, this is way better than the POP/no-SMTP thing I'm currently doing. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Port dependencies
seriously, this is why i want that debian+freebsd that was discussed recently. the kernel is ours and number one in the world. and the ports stuff is basically packages that more/less just-work. you can get the src =with= the pkg. How does debian get around all the make config options that we deal with? Such as does such and such package pull in samba... Or does debian just compile with every option more or less enabled? Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problems with make buildkernel
On Saturday April 2 2011 6:53:31 PM Tony wrote: Anybody care to have a look? http://pastie.org/1748851 I hate to ask, but before you started your buildworld, did you make clean? Also, in case you did, another thing you might try is to add COMPAT_7. You already have back to 4. -- StevieRay ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: nfs error: No route to host when starting apache ...
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Rick Macklem wrote: Since rpc.lockd and rpc.statd expect to be able to do IP broadcast (same goes for rpcbind), I suspect that might be a problem w.r.t. jails, although I know nothing about how jails work? Oh, and you can use the nolock mount option to avoid use of rpc.lockd and rpc.statd. based on the mount_nfs man page, as well as trying it just in case, this option no longer appears to be availalble in the 7.x nfs code ... :( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
