Re: Can't access a music CD

2011-10-13 Thread Jakub Lach
Strange thing is, that cdcontrol works 
for me, disc is spinning but no sound  
out of speakers. 

Sound system is working, and this is 
laptop.

I usually rip to hdd, and play those 
files, but it was annoying last time 
I tried to play audio cd.

Before CAM it was the same, if
I recall correctly, however then 
I used something like cdparanoia 
or cdrtools to play cds.

So I'm afraid, that cdcontrol is not
best diagnostic tool.

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Dell Poweredge 1950 III (PE_SC3): replacement SAS controller to acceess drives = 3TB

2011-10-13 Thread O. Hartmann

Hello out there.

We run a Dell PowerEdge 950 III (PE_SC3) Server with FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE. 
This Server is equipted with a SAS controller, residing, as far as I 
could observe, on a PCIe slot.

Its kernel message is:

mpt0: LSILogic SAS/SATA Adapter port 0xec00-0xecff mem 
0xfc4fc000-0xfc4f,0xfc4e-0xfc4e irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1

mpt0: [ITHREAD]
mpt0: MPI Version=1.5.14.0
mpt0: Capabilities: ( RAID-0 RAID-1E RAID-1 )
mpt0: 0 Active Volumes (2 Max)
mpt0: 0 Hidden Drive Members (14 Max)

The pciconf -lcv output is as:

mpt0@pci0:1:0:0:class=0x01 card=0x1f101028 chip=0x00581000 
rev=0x08 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'LSI Logic (Was: Symbios Logic, NCR)'
device = 'SAS 3000 series, 8-port with 1068E -StorPort'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = SCSI
cap 01[50] = powerspec 2  supports D0 D1 D2 D3  current D0
cap 10[68] = PCI-Express 1 endpoint max data 256(4096) link x4(x8)
cap 05[98] = MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit
cap 11[b0] = MSI-X supports 1 message in map 0x14 enabled
ecap 0001[100] = AER 1 0 fatal 0 non-fatal 0 corrected

This controller obviously isn't capable of handling 3TB harddrives and I 
need it to be replaced - but I do not know what type and brand of 
controller is suitbale for the Dell PowerEdge III. We already contacted 
our support, but they rejected support, since the BIOS of this server 
isn't capable of booting off 3 TB harddrives due to the 32bit 
limitations. Well, I need the controller to attach 3 and 4 TB drives, we 
still boot off from legacy BIOS capable  2,2 TB drives, so I see no 
issue to replace the SAS controller.


I'm a bit afraid of buying something out of the blue since the 
dimensions of this little controller board seems small. I hope someone 
already made a decission to buy such a replacement for their similar or 
exact the same system and can help me out.


We do not need RAID, nor SAS 2.0 capabilities, just JBOD. Thanks a lot 
in advance,


Oliver

P.S. Please also reply to my email, I'm not subsribing questions in 
case you reply. Thanks.


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Re: Dell Poweredge 1950 III (PE_SC3): replacement SAS controller to acceess drives = 3TB

2011-10-13 Thread Ivan Voras
On 13/10/2011 12:16, O. Hartmann wrote:

 
 I'm a bit afraid of buying something out of the blue since the
 dimensions of this little controller board seems small. I hope someone
 already made a decission to buy such a replacement for their similar or
 exact the same system and can help me out.
 
 We do not need RAID, nor SAS 2.0 capabilities, just JBOD. Thanks a lot
 in advance,

This is somewhat tangential but if the server has an internal USB port
(directly on the motherboard), you *could* use it just for boot+root for
the OS and then have buy any kind of controller which supports your
drives. Almost all modern servers have this, but the 1950 is a bit old...

In the same direction: if you have the space and the cabling, you could
just add a single small drive and connect it to the motherboard SATA
controller (non-RAID) and boot from that.




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Re: LibreOffice Writer crashes when accessing the fonts pull down list

2011-10-13 Thread Otacílio

On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 09:41 +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote:
 Hi List

 I've got a problem with the above.

 I've not made any changes other than updated the ports when so is 
needed.


 If I do the setting/change of the font via the menu, I can get what I
 want. But if I pull down the fonts list and start scrolling, Writer 
will

 crash.

I just replaced openoffice with libreoffice and I see similar behaviour.
Simply opening the drop-down font list instigates the segfault or crash
- I've seen instances both where a segmentation fault is reported and
core dumped, and where the application exits silently.

Changing the font via the menus or typing in the font name text box
doesn't instigate the crash.

It also crashes when the menu Tools-Language-For all Text-More...
is accessed, but not for either of the For Selection-More... or For
Paragraph-More... menus.

# make showconfig
=== The following configuration options are available for
libreoffice-3.4.3_1:
 WEBDAV=off Support webdav protocol
 KDE4=off With Qt4/KDE4 vclplug support
 GTK=on With GTK vclplug support
 GNOME=on Better integration in gnome environnement
 JAVA=off Add Java support (XML Filters, macros)
 PYUNO=off Allow to script libreoffice in python
 SYSTRAY=off Enable systemtry quickstarter
 MMEDIA=off Enable multimedia backend for impress
 SDK=off Build with SDK
 DEBUG=off Build with debug symbols and verbose output
=== Use 'make config' to modify these settings
# uname -rms
FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386


 PS: I could only find a list for freebsd-openoffice when I wanted to
 post this. So I choose the questions list instead.

The freebsd-openoffice@ list was closed recently, and freebsd-office@ is
now the common list for office applications.


Wayne


Dears

I have (exactly!) the same problem!
Simply opening the drop-down font list instigates the segfault or crash!

This is my system:


squitch# make showconfig
=== The following configuration options are available for 
libreoffice-3.4.3_1:

 WEBDAV=on Support webdav protocol
 KDE4=off With Qt4/KDE4 vclplug support
 GTK=on With GTK vclplug support
 GNOME=on Better integration in gnome environnement
 JAVA=off Add Java support (XML Filters, macros)
 PYUNO=on Allow to script libreoffice in python
 SYSTRAY=off Enable systemtry quickstarter
 MMEDIA=on Enable multimedia backend for impress
 SDK=off Build with SDK
 DEBUG=off Build with debug symbols and verbose output
=== Use 'make config' to modify these settings
squitch# uname -rms
FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p2 i386
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cvs mirror on 8, 5G dvd? Re: Extract particular date snapshot from /var/db/portsnap?

2011-10-13 Thread Peter Vereshagin
Hello.

I think I should correct myself as what I found that way was unexpected, even
after aside from portsnap.

2011/06/15 06:51:32 +0400 Peter Vereshagin pe...@vereshagin.org = To 
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
PV GL cvs -d :ext:anon...@anoncvs1.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs export -D 2010-10-01
PV GL -d ports-2010-10-01 ports
PV GL 
PV GL In this example, I am exporting (no CVS metadata dirs) a full ports tree
PV GL as of Oct 1st, 2010 into the directory ports-2010-10-01.

First of all Thank you very much as it was unobvious to know that from manuals 
like: 

http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.htm

PV Sure, I know I can do it with (x)VCS.

This one was wrong: ports are available from CVS only. No svn, p4, etc.

PV But hell yes, having VCS before such a situation to happen is good. Just 
if we

This one seem insufficient now. I checked out ports from 'anoncvs':

cvs -d anon...@anoncvs.tw.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs co ports

and there is no backup for the deleted ports of my interest. I mean for
example I can not get the directory of x11/wmfstatus as it is deleted at this
moment.

I suppose such a download is not the all what I assume it to be: backup of
each and every port's versions till the moment being. So I just

rsync rsync://mirrorsite/pub/FreeBSD/development/FreeBSD-CVS/ports ./

and later I can just 'cvs export' any directory for any date from there,
right? I suppose I'd put it on a double-layer dvd, is it possible to export
from there? It is noted that:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/hubs/mirror-requirements.html

5.4G is sufficient.

Another question wth cvs is: can I get the particular port in its state of
N(=1,2, ...) changes ago? It seems to be possible only to look up particular
version for the particular file and checkout it but not for the directory
(assuming the port is a directory). At the least how to look up the list of
dates when the directory was changed should be great.

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Re: Can't access a music CD

2011-10-13 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:20:49 -0700 (PDT), Jakub Lach wrote:
 Strange thing is, that cdcontrol works 
 for me, disc is spinning but no sound  
 out of speakers. 

If there is no entry for CD in the mixer, but for PCM,
it seems to indicate why playback from disk works, but
even (assumed) playback from CD cannot be heared.

% mixer -f /dev/mixer0
Mixer vol  is currently set to   5:5
Mixer pcm  is currently set to 100:100
Mixer line is currently set to  75:75
Mixer mic  is currently set to   0:0
Mixer cd   is currently set to  75:75  === THIS ONE
Mixer rec  is currently set to  75:75
Mixer igainis currently set to   0:0
Mixer monitor  is currently set to  75:75
Recording source: mic

This is from a HDA audio with 3 pcm devices and 3 mixer
devices.



 Before CAM it was the same, if
 I recall correctly, however then 
 I used something like cdparanoia 
 or cdrtools to play cds.

If I remember correctly, cdrtools is the port that brings
cdrecord. There are text mode and X CD player programs
(such as XMMS with CD audio plugin, or the simple xcd)
which you could try.



 So I'm afraid, that cdcontrol is not
 best diagnostic tool.

It's a simple and _predictable_ tool which you can use to
make the CD drive start playing. Everything _next_ in the
signal chain (i. e. the mixer) is handled by other tools.

So if you assume that cdcontrol -f /dev/acd0 play makes
the CD play, then use the mixer command to check all the
possible audio settings to find the next thin in the signal
chain that could be wrong.



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Re: Can't access a music CD

2011-10-13 Thread Jakub Lach
Correct, cd entry from mixer is 
missing.

However, then it didn't stop other tools 
from working (I think that at one point I 
also used mplayer for CD playback).

best regards and thanks, 
- Jakub Lach

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alternative for user immutable flag on ZFS

2011-10-13 Thread Michael

Hello,

I have some important files in my home directory and I want to make sure 
that they are not changed/removed by my mistake.


So I'm looking for something that prevents all programs (like rm) from 
changing these files even if I tell them to do so. But then on some rare 
occasions I really need to modify them so there must be a way of 
clearing these restrictions. And all that from my user account without 
root privileges.


Normally I would set user immutable flag, which can be manually cleared 
in case when I know what I'm doing. The problem is that I can't get them 
to work on ZFS and it looks that it's not supported.


Are there any alternatives or different ways to achieve my goal? I'm 
using FreeBSD 8.2-Release.

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Re: Can't access a music CD

2011-10-13 Thread Alexander Best
On Wed Oct 12 11, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Michael D. Norwick mnorw...@centurytel.net writes:
 
  Thank You for the replies.  Got the part about not mounting an audio
  CD.  I wasn't trying to.  Inserting the disc in the drive brought up
  the error message.  Mounting a data CD or DVD acts normally and the
  filesystem on it can be accessed.
 
 Okay, so what *are* you you using to try to play the CD?
 Someone suggested cdcontrol, but these days a lot of 
 computers don't come with the cable to get analog audio
 directly off the drive. That's why the FAQ suggests xmcd, 
 although it's far from the only option; most of the big 
 desktop environments come with a CD playing application
 that gets the data digitally.  For example, I think the
 Gnome application is brasero.

i think cdcontrol(1) should be adjusted, so that it supports digital audio CD
playback. actually analog audio hasn't really been supported by mainboard
manufacturers for  10 years. i have a board which comes with an audio
connector, but attaching a cable to it, which is attached to a dvd drive
doesn't work, for whatever reasons. i also believe newer dvd and br sata
devices don't even come with an analog connector nowadays.

another application which supports digitally playing audio cds is mplayer(1)
via 'mplayer cdda:://' or 'mplayer cddb://'.

ano ther thought might be to implement an audio cd filesystem, so one could do
'mount -o audiocdfs /dev/cd0 /media/cd' and then all tracks appear as RAW pcm
audio files. maybe fuse comes with something like this?

cheers.
alex
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Re: alternative for user immutable flag on ZFS

2011-10-13 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 10/13/11 6:12 PM, Michael wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have some important files in my home directory and I want to make sure
 that they are not changed/removed by my mistake.
 
 So I'm looking for something that prevents all programs (like rm) from
 changing these files even if I tell them to do so. But then on some rare
 occasions I really need to modify them so there must be a way of
 clearing these restrictions. And all that from my user account without
 root privileges.
 
 Normally I would set user immutable flag, which can be manually cleared
 in case when I know what I'm doing. The problem is that I can't get them
 to work on ZFS and it looks that it's not supported.
 
 Are there any alternatives or different ways to achieve my goal? I'm
 using FreeBSD 8.2-Release.
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Something that would part address your problem is taking snapshots of
the directory with your important files...

Sure, this doesn't replace the immutable flag, but it surely achieves
what you want.
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Re: Can't access a music CD

2011-10-13 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Alexander Best arun...@freebsd.org writes:

 ano ther thought might be to implement an audio cd filesystem, so one could do
 'mount -o audiocdfs /dev/cd0 /media/cd' and then all tracks appear as RAW pcm
 audio files. maybe fuse comes with something like this?


/dev/acdntm is no longer supported?
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Re: LibreOffice Writer crashes when accessing the fonts pull down list

2011-10-13 Thread Любомир Григоров
Same crash issue on pull down of the fonts menu here as well. I used the
precompiled PBI in PCBSD 9.0-BETA3

$ uname -a
FreeBSD NEONZ 9.0-BETA3 FreeBSD 9.0-BETA3 #1: Tue Sep 27 13:47:21 PDT 2011
r...@build9x64.pcbsd.org:/usr/obj/pcbsd-build90/fbsd-source/9.0/sys/GENERIC
amd64

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Re: Turning system accounting data into money

2011-10-13 Thread Allen
*snip*
On 10/11/2011 4:23 PM, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote:
 Cannot be of any direct help, but ...
 
 You remember that 'astronomer chases hacker on Berkely computer 
 systes'- novel, Cliff Stoll: The Cookoo's Egg? If not, try wikipedia.
 As an aside, I was told that at some universities' CS-classes, it is
 required lecture. In that novel, user's departments where charged
 according to resources spent on the university's computers and the
 main figure was tasked to find out about a 0.75$ accounting error and
 found a hacker instead. The system in the novel was a Berkeley Unix.
 So, systems that do what you want (and customers who want to pay on a
 per use basis) must be around for quite some time.  The novel is
 copyrighted 1989, I cannot track when the real event circling around
 a certain Markus Hess, cf. also wikipedia, took place. My guess about
 the system is  4.3BSD Tahoe or earlier 4.3BSD.
 
 Cheers,

I actually found that book not very long ago at a used book store. It
was neat; I went in with my Wife, saw that, started reading the back,
saw Berkeley, and bought it.

At first I wasn't sure how it would go, but as I kept reading, I started
knocking out like 5 chapters at a time, and reading multiple times a
day. It was a REALLY good book, and, yea, the Copyright, on mine at
least, says 1989 and 1990 but, in the book, he does name years in
it. Some of them I know are 1987, and some I think were much earlier,
but I don't think any of the time frames he gave were before 1985 or so,
but I'd have to check, as I finished it and read the last chapter a
while ago.

I thought it was funny that a 75 cent accounting error was how they
figured out a complete ring of chaos lol.

And of course, you can't help but laugh at the VMS joke, and, the System
V jokes.

-Allen
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Re: Can't access a music CD

2011-10-13 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:25:24 +, Alexander Best wrote:
 ano ther thought might be to implement an audio cd filesystem, so one could do
 'mount -o audiocdfs /dev/cd0 /media/cd' and then all tracks appear as RAW pcm
 audio files. maybe fuse comes with something like this?

What about /dev/acd0t[01,02,03,...] - aren't those supposed
to represent the individual audio tracks that could then be
interpreted as what they basically are, raw pcm (of cd-audio
specification)?


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Wifi Scanner Gnome

2011-10-13 Thread Michael Starr
Hey,

I use multiple wireless networks on a daily basis and they are different
each day. Is there a simple gnome wifi scanner that allows me to easily
connect my laptop to the available network? I have been looking...

This would be very helpful. I want one similar to the one in Ubuntu where it
lists available networks. This would be so great.

Thanks for any advice.

Mike
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Re: Can't access a music CD

2011-10-13 Thread Alexander Best
On Thu Oct 13 11, Polytropon wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:25:24 +, Alexander Best wrote:
  ano ther thought might be to implement an audio cd filesystem, so one could 
  do
  'mount -o audiocdfs /dev/cd0 /media/cd' and then all tracks appear as RAW 
  pcm
  audio files. maybe fuse comes with something like this?
 
 What about /dev/acd0t[01,02,03,...] - aren't those supposed
 to represent the individual audio tracks that could then be
 interpreted as what they basically are, raw pcm (of cd-audio
 specification)?

i inserted an audio cd and they didn't turn up. i guess ATA_CAM doesn't support
individual nodes for tracks.

cheers.
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Re: Can't access a music CD

2011-10-13 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:03:29 +, Alexander Best wrote:
 On Thu Oct 13 11, Polytropon wrote:
  On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:25:24 +, Alexander Best wrote:
   ano ther thought might be to implement an audio cd filesystem, so one 
   could do
   'mount -o audiocdfs /dev/cd0 /media/cd' and then all tracks appear as RAW 
   pcm
   audio files. maybe fuse comes with something like this?
  
  What about /dev/acd0t[01,02,03,...] - aren't those supposed
  to represent the individual audio tracks that could then be
  interpreted as what they basically are, raw pcm (of cd-audio
  specification)?
 
 i inserted an audio cd and they didn't turn up. i guess ATA_CAM doesn't 
 support
 individual nodes for tracks.

When using the (now default) CAM methods (ATAPICAM), I think
this is true.

Example with a regular music CD:

% cdcontrol info
Starting track = 1, ending track = 19, TOC size = 162 bytes
track start  duration   block  length   type
-
1   0:02.00   2:05.01   09376  audio
2   2:07.01   1:45.5393767928  audio
3   3:52.54   2:37.49   17304   11824  audio
4   6:30.28   1:52.00   291288400  audio
5   8:22.28   2:08.29   375289629  audio
6  10:30.57   2:23.01   47157   10726  audio
7  12:53.58   4:01.01   57883   18076  audio
8  16:54.59   3:12.37   75959   14437  audio
9  20:07.21   2:09.00   903969675  audio
   10  22:16.21   4:19.67  100071   19492  audio
   11  26:36.13   3:28.00  119563   15600  audio
   12  30:04.13   3:48.73  135163   17173  audio
   13  33:53.11   3:51.38  152336   17363  audio
   14  37:44.49   1:27.72  1696996597  audio
   15  39:12.46   2:15.15  176296   10140  audio
   16  41:27.61   2:35.01  186436   11626  audio
   17  44:02.62   2:11.00  1980629825  audio
   18  46:13.62   2:37.01  207887   11776  audio
   19  48:50.63   2:48.01  219663   12601  audio
  170  51:38.64 -  232264   -  -

% ls /dev/acd0*
/dev/acd0 /dev/acd0t04  /dev/acd0t08  /dev/acd0t12  /dev/acd0t16
/dev/acd0t01  /dev/acd0t05  /dev/acd0t09  /dev/acd0t13  /dev/acd0t17
/dev/acd0t02  /dev/acd0t06  /dev/acd0t10  /dev/acd0t14  /dev/acd0t18
/dev/acd0t03  /dev/acd0t07  /dev/acd0t11  /dev/acd0t15  /dev/acd0t19

% ls /dev/cd0*
/dev/cd0

Maybe obtaining a TOC listing of the CD is required to make the
track files appear? However, they are only present for the ATAPI
based access (acd0), not for the SCSI CAM based one (cd0).




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Re: Can't access a music CD

2011-10-13 Thread Alexander Best
On Fri Oct 14 11, Polytropon wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:03:29 +, Alexander Best wrote:
  On Thu Oct 13 11, Polytropon wrote:
   On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:25:24 +, Alexander Best wrote:
ano ther thought might be to implement an audio cd filesystem, so one 
could do
'mount -o audiocdfs /dev/cd0 /media/cd' and then all tracks appear as 
RAW pcm
audio files. maybe fuse comes with something like this?
   
   What about /dev/acd0t[01,02,03,...] - aren't those supposed
   to represent the individual audio tracks that could then be
   interpreted as what they basically are, raw pcm (of cd-audio
   specification)?
  
  i inserted an audio cd and they didn't turn up. i guess ATA_CAM doesn't 
  support
  individual nodes for tracks.
 
 When using the (now default) CAM methods (ATAPICAM), I think
 this is true.
 
 Example with a regular music CD:
 
 % cdcontrol info
 Starting track = 1, ending track = 19, TOC size = 162 bytes
 track start  duration   block  length   type
 -
 1   0:02.00   2:05.01   09376  audio
 2   2:07.01   1:45.5393767928  audio
 3   3:52.54   2:37.49   17304   11824  audio
 4   6:30.28   1:52.00   291288400  audio
 5   8:22.28   2:08.29   375289629  audio
 6  10:30.57   2:23.01   47157   10726  audio
 7  12:53.58   4:01.01   57883   18076  audio
 8  16:54.59   3:12.37   75959   14437  audio
 9  20:07.21   2:09.00   903969675  audio
10  22:16.21   4:19.67  100071   19492  audio
11  26:36.13   3:28.00  119563   15600  audio
12  30:04.13   3:48.73  135163   17173  audio
13  33:53.11   3:51.38  152336   17363  audio
14  37:44.49   1:27.72  1696996597  audio
15  39:12.46   2:15.15  176296   10140  audio
16  41:27.61   2:35.01  186436   11626  audio
17  44:02.62   2:11.00  1980629825  audio
18  46:13.62   2:37.01  207887   11776  audio
19  48:50.63   2:48.01  219663   12601  audio
   170  51:38.64 -  232264   -  -

cdcontrol info
Starting track = 1, ending track = 9, TOC size = 82 bytes
track start  duration   block  length   type
-
1   0:02.00   5:58.35   0   26885  audio
2   6:00.35   5:06.06   26885   22956  audio
3  11:06.41   5:40.57   49841   25557  audio
4  16:47.23   5:52.37   75398   26437  audio
5  22:39.60   4:14.09  101835   19059  audio
6  26:53.69   5:16.25  120894   23725  audio
7  32:10.19   3:14.54  144619   14604  audio
8  35:24.73   6:24.15  159223   28815  audio
9  41:49.13   6:16.51  188038   28251  audio
  170  48:05.64 -  216289   -  -

 
 % ls /dev/acd0*
 /dev/acd0 /dev/acd0t04  /dev/acd0t08  /dev/acd0t12  /dev/acd0t16
 /dev/acd0t01  /dev/acd0t05  /dev/acd0t09  /dev/acd0t13  /dev/acd0t17
 /dev/acd0t02  /dev/acd0t06  /dev/acd0t10  /dev/acd0t14  /dev/acd0t18
 /dev/acd0t03  /dev/acd0t07  /dev/acd0t11  /dev/acd0t15  /dev/acd0t19

otaku% ls|grep cd
cd0
cdrom

 
 % ls /dev/cd0*
 /dev/cd0
 
 Maybe obtaining a TOC listing of the CD is required to make the
 track files appear? However, they are only present for the ATAPI
 based access (acd0), not for the SCSI CAM based one (cd0).
 
 
 
 
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Re: Can't access a music CD

2011-10-13 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:38:45 +, Alexander Best wrote:
 On Fri Oct 14 11, Polytropon wrote:
  % ls /dev/acd0*
  /dev/acd0 /dev/acd0t04  /dev/acd0t08  /dev/acd0t12  /dev/acd0t16
  /dev/acd0t01  /dev/acd0t05  /dev/acd0t09  /dev/acd0t13  /dev/acd0t17
  /dev/acd0t02  /dev/acd0t06  /dev/acd0t10  /dev/acd0t14  /dev/acd0t18
  /dev/acd0t03  /dev/acd0t07  /dev/acd0t11  /dev/acd0t15  /dev/acd0t19
 
 otaku% ls|grep cd
 cd0
 cdrom

% dmesg | grep ^acd
acd0: DVDR HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H42N/RL00 at ata1-master UDMA66 
acd1: DVDROM HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8163B/0L30 at ata1-slave UDMA33

Those are parallel ATA drives, accessed by the ATAPI drivers.
Because I can either access them as ATAPI drives as well as
SCSI drives, they show up in both subsystems:

% atacontrol list
ATA channel 1:
Master: acd0 HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H42N/RL00 ATA/ATAPI revision 7
Slave:  acd1 HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8163B/0L30 ATA/ATAPI revision 6

% camcontrol devlist
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H42N RL00at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,cd0)
HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B 0L30   at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,cd1)

In the kernel configuration, I have the following relevant
settings:

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device  ata
device  atadisk # ATA disk drives
device  ataraid # ATA RAID drives
device  atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
device  atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
device  atapist # ATAPI tape drives
options ATA_STATIC_ID   # Static device numbering
device  atapicam# For SCSI over ATA

# SCSI peripherals
device  scbus   # SCSI bus (required for SCSI)
device  ch  # SCSI media changers
device  da  # Direct Access (disks)
device  sa  # Sequential Access (tape etc)
device  cd  # CD
device  pass# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
device  ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE)
options SCSI_DELAY=100  # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI [5000]

So I can use both /dev/cd0 and /dev/acd0 to access the same
drive, just are required, e. g. /dev/cd0 (equals /dev/dvd
for consistency with the growisofs manpage) for burning CDs,
and /dev/acd0 for audio playback (when accessed with cdcontrol).

OS is x86 v8.2 STABLE of August 2011 with (obviously) custom
kernel.

If I remember correctly, the cdcontrol utility talks to the
ATAPI subsystem which now has been melted somehow with the
ATAPICAM (SCSI) way of accessing devices...



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Re: Wifi Scanner Gnome

2011-10-13 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 02:41:44PM -0700, Michael Starr wrote:
 Hey,
 
 I use multiple wireless networks on a daily basis and they are different
 each day. Is there a simple gnome wifi scanner that allows me to easily
 connect my laptop to the available network? I have been looking...
 
 This would be very helpful. I want one similar to the one in Ubuntu where it
 lists available networks. This would be so great.
 
 Thanks for any advice.

Have you tried the net-mgmt/wifimgr port?

Roland
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Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion

2011-10-13 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth mikel king on Thursday, 13 October 2011:
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Roland Smith wrote:
 
  With the recent death of Dennis Ritchie, we've lost one of the giants on 
  whose
  shoulders we are standing. But rather that mourn his passing, I think it 
  would
  be proper to remember and celebrate his achievements.
  
  His contributions to the C language and the UNIX operating system are a
  legacy that few can match.
  
  Therefore I would like to propose that the FreeBSD project dedicate the
  upcoming 9.0 release in his memory.
  
  Alternatively, an tribute on the FreeBSD website would be fitting, wouldn't 
  it?
  
  Roland
 
 
 I think this would be a fitting tribute...
 

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Re: Can't access a music CD

2011-10-13 Thread Alexander Best
On Fri Oct 14 11, Polytropon wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:38:45 +, Alexander Best wrote:
  On Fri Oct 14 11, Polytropon wrote:
   % ls /dev/acd0*
   /dev/acd0 /dev/acd0t04  /dev/acd0t08  /dev/acd0t12  /dev/acd0t16
   /dev/acd0t01  /dev/acd0t05  /dev/acd0t09  /dev/acd0t13  /dev/acd0t17
   /dev/acd0t02  /dev/acd0t06  /dev/acd0t10  /dev/acd0t14  /dev/acd0t18
   /dev/acd0t03  /dev/acd0t07  /dev/acd0t11  /dev/acd0t15  /dev/acd0t19
  
  otaku% ls|grep cd
  cd0
  cdrom
 
 % dmesg | grep ^acd
 acd0: DVDR HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H42N/RL00 at ata1-master UDMA66 
 acd1: DVDROM HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8163B/0L30 at ata1-slave UDMA33
 
 Those are parallel ATA drives, accessed by the ATAPI drivers.
 Because I can either access them as ATAPI drives as well as
 SCSI drives, they show up in both subsystems:
 
 % atacontrol list
 ATA channel 1:
 Master: acd0 HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H42N/RL00 ATA/ATAPI revision 7
 Slave:  acd1 HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8163B/0L30 ATA/ATAPI revision 6
 
 % camcontrol devlist
 HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H42N RL00at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,cd0)
 HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B 0L30   at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,cd1)
 
 In the kernel configuration, I have the following relevant
 settings:
 
 # ATA and ATAPI devices
 device  ata
 device  atadisk # ATA disk drives
 device  ataraid # ATA RAID drives
 device  atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
 device  atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
 device  atapist # ATAPI tape drives
 options ATA_STATIC_ID   # Static device numbering
 device  atapicam# For SCSI over ATA
 
 # SCSI peripherals
 device  scbus   # SCSI bus (required for SCSI)
 device  ch  # SCSI media changers
 device  da  # Direct Access (disks)
 device  sa  # Sequential Access (tape etc)
 device  cd  # CD
 device  pass# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
 device  ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE)
 options SCSI_DELAY=100  # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI [5000]
 
 So I can use both /dev/cd0 and /dev/acd0 to access the same
 drive, just are required, e. g. /dev/cd0 (equals /dev/dvd
 for consistency with the growisofs manpage) for burning CDs,
 and /dev/acd0 for audio playback (when accessed with cdcontrol).
 
 OS is x86 v8.2 STABLE of August 2011 with (obviously) custom
 kernel.
 
 If I remember correctly, the cdcontrol utility talks to the
 ATAPI subsystem which now has been melted somehow with the
 ATAPICAM (SCSI) way of accessing devices...

yeah. you have device atapicam in your config, which creates cam emulation
nodes under /dev and enables you to use cam specific software, such as
camcontrol, cdrecord or growisofs.

i'm running freebsd 10 and here the whole ata subsystem was merged into the
cam subsystem. so atacontrol doesn't report anything. so the ata subsystem
has been abandoned in favour of cam. that's why e.g. burncd is now unusable
under freebsd.

cheers.
alex

 
 
 
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Re: Can't access a music CD

2011-10-13 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:53:02 +, Alexander Best wrote:
 yeah. you have device atapicam in your config, which creates cam emulation
 nodes under /dev and enables you to use cam specific software, such as
 camcontrol, cdrecord or growisofs.

Exactly that was my intention when adding it to the kernel
configuration. :-)



 i'm running freebsd 10 and here the whole ata subsystem was merged into the
 cam subsystem. so atacontrol doesn't report anything. so the ata subsystem
 has been abandoned in favour of cam. that's why e.g. burncd is now unusable
 under freebsd.

Thanks for that warning - another thing to pay attention
to when stupidly assuming that granted functionality will
stay available forever. :-)

However, I haven't been using burncd for long time as it
has been broken (for me) at some point in v5 already,
that's why my decision to use cdrecord and cdrdao with
the SCSI command set.

Still I'm curious how things will develop on application
side with the new subsystem once it's established. At
least I see abandoning the differentiation acd0 vs. cd0
as a good thing. One drive - one device file to access it.


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Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion

2011-10-13 Thread Ryan Coleman
I think this is a grand idea. 

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On Oct 13, 2011, at 18:46, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:

 Quoth mikel king on Thursday, 13 October 2011:
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Roland Smith wrote:
 
 With the recent death of Dennis Ritchie, we've lost one of the giants on 
 whose
 shoulders we are standing. But rather that mourn his passing, I think it 
 would
 be proper to remember and celebrate his achievements.
 
 His contributions to the C language and the UNIX operating system are a
 legacy that few can match.
 
 Therefore I would like to propose that the FreeBSD project dedicate the
 upcoming 9.0 release in his memory.
 
 Alternatively, an tribute on the FreeBSD website would be fitting, wouldn't 
 it?
 
 Roland
 
 
 I think this would be a fitting tribute...
 
 
 Hear, hear!
 
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ports/distfiles via NFS or SSH

2011-10-13 Thread Peter Kryszkiewicz
I have several machines networked using NFS mounts or SSH and scp. Only one
machine has internet connectivity - a laptop (machine vbear) with a wireless
card (I'm in a temporary location for a few weeks and only wireless is
available here).

I tried to mount the ports tree on this machine to the other machines
(machine mfc for instance) with:

#mfc cd /usr
#mfc mount_nfs vbear:/usr/ports ports

and then installing the needed port on mfc. What happens is that the working
directories and the entire local ports tree gets written to /var, so that I
get /var/ports/usr/ports/devel/xxgdb/work and so on. /var fills up very
quickly and I soon get disk full errors.

How can I avoid this?

I believe the solution is to point the ports Makefile to a different (local)
working directory but point fetch to grab distfiles from the (remote)
laptop, but I'm not sure how to do this.

regards,
Peter Kryszkiewicz
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RE: Turning system accounting data into money

2011-10-13 Thread Murray Taylor
Follow up --- I have just been told that the
issue will be resolved over the weekend -- there apparently is some
other 
issue being dealt with first.

I should have the 44 files in the inbucket on Monday.
 


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-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Nikos
Vassiliadis
Sent: Wednesday, 12 October 2011 7:15 AM
To: Polytropon
Cc: FreeBSD Questions
Subject: Re: Turning system accounting data into money

On 10/11/2011 5:06 PM, Polytropon wrote:
 This is _not_ a spam message trying to sell something
 stupid to the list. I'm just searching for a solution
 to turn consumed computing resources into a number and
 a currency symbol. :-)

 Reason: A growing amount of (my) customers seems to
 like this concept: They speed a low fee for access to
 systems and applications, and they want to pay according
 to what they did with that system. The access fee covers
 access and some basic services (backup  quota), and for
 anything more advanced they want to be charged per
 units used, or per consumed resources. This can be dialog
 time (SSH), disk I/O, disk occupied, pages printed (can happen)
 or pages required to print on exceptional specific forms
 (can happen once or twice a year and is charged with an
 additional fee for fold, staple  mutilate).

 Sounds stupid? I have _real_ customers intendedly
 requesting that payment model (instead of just pay
 amount n Euro a month and do whatever you like).

 Accidentally, I remembered history.

 So I thought: This funcitonality has been present on
 UNIX systems for many decades. But _how_ to use it? I
 know there's the command set for accounting, for example
 the ac command. But what does its output total 7264.15
 mean? There also are acct (process accounting), sa
 (for system accounting) and pac (for printer accounting,
 just dooesn't seem to work with CUPS).

 I'd also like to use the /etc/csh.logout resp. ~/.logout
 mechanism. When a user logs in, he will be presented the
 program he uses (or a menu, in case he uses different ones).
 This can also be a regular remote desktop session. When
 he logs out, a message should be displayed that informs
 him how much will be charged for the session. At the end
 of the month, he should get an invoice with the proper
 accumulated amount.

 For example, if a user wishes to issue a make a backup
 _now_, because I intendedly want _this_ current state
 backed up _now_, this will be seen as additional I/O
 load and disk occupation (because it's handled aside of
 the regular backup runs that should be part of the
 basic package charged with the conneciton fee).
 Or as I said, he issues printing for stuff he cannot
 print at home, so he will be charged for 500 pages.
 And in case he transfers 10 GB data in, and 10 GB data
 out, he will be charged for that traffic, as well as
 for the I/O.

 The sessions in questions will be SSH sessions (text mode)
 as well as SSH/X sessions (remote desktops).

 Maybe someone already uses something similar he wants
 to share? Suggestions and inspirations are welcome.





Yes, the builtin accounting facilities do most of the stuff you
are interested in. Just add 'accounting_enable=YES' in your
/etc/rc.conf, run '/etc/rc.d/accounting start' and use sa to
examine the output. I believe the per-user accounting will fit
the bill nicely. You did not mention jails, right?

The networking part perhaps can be a firewall's job, though
I don't know if the per-user IP traffic rules work properly.
There were some problems regarding this ages ago...

The builtin printing stuff I believe is for use with the
ancient printing tools and I know nothing about CUPS...

Hey, these are pretty old stuff you are looking for or perhaps
this email was stuck in the mail server's queue for 25 years;)

HTH, Nikos
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Very large swap

2011-10-13 Thread Dennis Glatting


This is kind of stupid question but at a minimum I thought it would be 
interesting to know.


What is the limitations in terms of swap devices under RELENG_8 (or 9)?

A single swap dev appears to be limited to 32GB (there are truncation 
messages on boot). I am looking at a possible need of 2-20TB (probably 
more) with as much main memory that is affordable.


I am working with large data sets and there are various ways of solving 
the problem sets but simply letting the processors swap as they work 
through a given problem is a possible technique.


Processors, memory, storage, and other hardware are open issues but for 
the minute I'm doing things on the cheap, which, admittedly, has a certain 
intellectual amusement factor.


TIA

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RFC2544 benchmark implementation for FreeBSD?

2011-10-13 Thread Victor Sudakov
Colleagues, 

Does anyone know of an RFC2544 network benchmark implementation for
FreeBSD? 

What network benchmarking software do you use? There are some in
ports/benchmarks like netpipe, dbs etc, which would you advise from
personal experience?

TIA.
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Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
sip:suda...@sibptus.tomsk.ru
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